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Posted by Jerm95gt (Member # 1239) on :
 
Ok, so I bought these from mustang5091, they say 6025 on them, but they have a e/o number and only say performer on the side. The 6025 shouldn't have a carb number and should say rpm on the side. With the 6025's u gotta notch the pistons. Anyways i was told by edelbrock that their heads all share the same casting (6025) thats why it says that. So i figured im in the clear and do have 6037's but then 66accobra pm'ed me asking me if i'd notched the pistons. Does this mean i do have to notch the pistons?? Is anyone familar with these heads?
 
Posted by forced331 (Member # 1270) on :
 
No! My 6037's also say 6025, they all do share the same castings. These heads really love boost, don't even port them.
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
i would still measure them to make sure its not a 2.02 valve

isnt a 6025 - a 6037 with a bigger intake valve and the 1/2 head bolts, i know it has 1/2 head bolts or studs because i tore it apart and it was on a 351 without bolt bushings, hope this helps, and i will always take them off ur hands [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
i am wrong, i think u have 6039
a 6039 is a 6037 with a bigger 2.02 valve and the smog ports to make it carb legal, so it has a crab number, measure the valves with somethin, if it is over 2" it is definetley a 6039

and i am still interest, did i forget to say that
 
Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 
Yeah, measure the valves just to be safe, but the 6037's do have a "6025" casting number on the side.......
 
Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on :
 
MEASURE MEASURE MEASURE MEASURE MEASURE MEASURE I don't care what expert from the factory or what the guy who made the head said MEASURE! I mean is it really worth it not to??? [Confused]
 
Posted by Jerm95gt (Member # 1239) on :
 
What carb number do you guys have on the 6037's?
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
the carb number is the same for the 6037's and the 6039's
the number is D-215-17, but u know that since u have the heads

just measure the heads and u will know for sure
if needed, have fun notching the pistons
notching pistons from fordmuscle

[ May 22, 2003, 12:25 AM: Message edited by: 66 AC COBRA ]
 
Posted by Jerm95gt (Member # 1239) on :
 
mine are -16.......there are like 5 diff carb numbers for each model.....grrr i measured and they look like 1.9 and 1.6 but i want to be sure. Thanks for ur help
 
Posted by STROKD (Member # 1668) on :
 
You don't have to cut the pistons if the intake valve is a 1.9 as long as your lift isn't over about .54. If it is that close or larger on the intake side, put the head on there with no gasket and turn the motor over with a wrench on the crank to make sure there is no bumping... if it seems alright, as in the wrench doesnt lock up, take the rockers off and put the head gasket on it and put it all back together and check it again with the wrench and you should be good to go! Easy way to do it is get a cam with less than .54 lift [Wink] [Big Grin] A F cam and those heads makes well over 300 to the wheels... [dance]
 
Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
he has a stock cam
fuck jeremy, you might need bolt bushings!
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
if u want to wait until friday night, i will drive to martinez and bring a dial caliper to measure with

u really cant put them on anyway until u get the bushings, i dont know of anyone around here that stocks them, but i could be wrong
 
Posted by Jerm95gt (Member # 1239) on :
 
Thanks for the offer 66ac, but i used one today and it's 1.9 I had my shop teacher do it and he said it was a tiny bit over 1.9 maybe (he was thinking 1.94 but he said there is no way it's 2.02
 
Posted by 67stang12s (Member # 2314) on :
 
performers come with 1.94s/1.60s
performer rpms come with 2.02/1.60 [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jerm95gt (Member # 1239) on :
 
cool, so yea im puttin em on but i gotta wait for head bolt bushing kit which sucks.....I want to get em on sOOOOOOOO bad.

Thanks for the help guys.
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
thats where they get you bolt bushing. ASure the 6037's look cheap[er tehn you have to spend about 75 bucks jsut to get the bushings.. ergg
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
damn, i wanted those heads [Mad]
[patriot]
 
Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
what for? the 351?
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
yeah, those heads are off my friends 351

i am have already bought his cam and intake, and i was tryin to get the heads and rockers, but oh well

and u say that it would be a weak combo in a 351, but i am trying to build a very reliable combo that i can drive back and forth to calpoly if i want to

and i drove the car with those heads, torque monster
 
Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
why dont you get afr's and really piss sawson off [Smile]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
i cant afford afrs right now
and look at the last part of my sig

once i rebuild it for the final time it will be getting afr's, fti cam, and spyder or box intake
 
Posted by AaronC (Member # 86) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STROKD:
You don't have to cut the pistons if the intake valve is a 1.9 as long as your lift isn't over about .54. If it is that close or larger on the intake side, put the head on there with no gasket and turn the motor over with a wrench on the crank to make sure there is no bumping... if it seems alright, as in the wrench doesnt lock up, take the rockers off and put the head gasket on it and put it all back together and check it again with the wrench and you should be good to go! Easy way to do it is get a cam with less than .54 lift [Wink] [Big Grin] A F cam and those heads makes well over 300 to the wheels... [dance]

P/V clearance has almost nothing to do with peak lift. The valves are no where near the piston at peak lift. P/V clearance has to do with overlap when the piston is near TDC. You can have a .565 lift lobe with 216 degrees duration (.050)clear all day and a 230 duration with .499 lift that won't come close.

As KC mentioned ALWAYS check no matter what!
 
Posted by mustanggt5091 (Member # 444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
once i rebuild it for the final time it will be getting afr's, fti cam, and spyder or box intake

Wow [Eek!] taht sounds just like my combo getting put together now [Eek!] Does this mean I finally caught you admitting my car was gonna be fast! [Big Grin]

And hell ya it was a torque monster [patriot]

[ May 22, 2003, 11:40 PM: Message edited by: mustanggt5091 ]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
nope, becuase mine will also be gettin a turbo along with the other mods
but i cant hate because urs will be done within a few months (and dont say sooner because i know u are slow at everything [Big Grin] )
and my finished turbo 357 wont be finished for a while, a long while
 




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