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Posted by SlowFiveOh94 (Member # 2404) on :
 
What would be the most reliable combo and what kind of power and times should I expect from both...

1. Basically stock engine with a supercharger and the injectors and everything needed to make it run right.

2. Heads, Cam, and Intake and an NX kit running at a 100 shot? Also, what is a good combo of the heads, cam, and intake. It has to be smog legal.

What would you guys reccomend I do when the time comes for me to get some power? My cars specs are in my sig. I dont need to be the fastest car around, but I'm going to have my car lookin like a Saleen so I want it to have some balls to back up the looks. I'm eventually going to have a commuter so I'm not too worried about gas milage or anything. I'd like to be able to run mid 12's on street tires if possible, but I know nothing compared to you guys on this site so I'll leave it up to you. Thanks for the help
 

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 
It really depends on what you can afford. If you want the power right off the back, I'd say go supercharger, but how many many miles are on the car right now? Mid 12's is obtainable with the H/C/I combo, what ever you want to do it is all prefference, some here will say good heads, good intake, and an off the shelf cam, or the AFR custom grind cam combo will you get you there. There is so many ways to go, you will start to get confused as to which combo to go with, or which power dder to go with. I say build it from the ground up if you have the money. Start with a good short block, then the H/C/I combo of your choice. Then slap on the power adder of choice.
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
N/A with a 100 shot would be quicker easily if put together correctly.
 

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Posted by PseudoCobra (Member # 1689) on :
 
I think he is asking what is safer and I would tell you to get a turbo on you basically stock motor which will be a lot better for the engine than a blower, you can run more boost safely, and you can make more power with a turbo period. That's my opinion, but if your stuck with the two choices above then I'd go HCI with a 100 shot
 

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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
personally i would go with the H/C/I combo and put a 150 shot on it with good tires gears you should see low12's easy
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93mustangt:
personally i would go with the H/C/I combo and put a 150 shot on it with good tires gears you should see low12's easy

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Originally posted by 93mustangt:
personally i would go with the H/C/I combo and put a 150 shot on it with good tires gears you should see low12's easy

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Low 12's without the 150 shot right?

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With a good H/C/I setup it better be!

edit: even with a bad one like mine mid 12's are doable...lol

[ April 14, 2003, 12:42 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 


[ April 14, 2003, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by 99gt-UJSTLST (Member # 584) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93mustangt:
personally i would go with the H/C/I combo and put a 150 shot on it with good tires gears you should see low12's easy

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Originally posted by shade-tree:
can't go wrong either way. I went H/C/I + N20, but nothing wrong with a blower.

I don't know why anyone would say a turbo is "safer" than a blower, doesn't make sense to me. If anything blower cars are well understood and there are locals (Byron) that are experts in there tuning.

Good luck with a turbo car aka head gasket popper (see sig, lol)

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LOL, you can ask 93PONY about that turbo, (head gasket popper), thing being true

[ April 14, 2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by trbo50 (Member # 1671) on :
 
Blowing out the head gasket is a tuning issue, not a power adder issue. If you are willing to make the investment to put a turbo kit on, later on down the road the investment will pay off. No slipping or tossing belts, no belt to yank on the crank and cause pre mature bearing wear. No bottles to fill. Turn the boost up and down with a simple controller. Invest in a good stand alone ECU. Good luck!
 

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Posted by y2kgt01 (Member # 1257) on :
 
blowing a head gasket isnt a tuning problem always.i can name many stock turbo cars that blow headgaskets all the time.its part of having a turbo.... unless somehow your gonna tune your headgasket to not blow under high amounts of boost. boost will destroy headgaskets eventually i believe a lot easier with turbos than a blower if both done correctly.i would definatly not reccomend going with a turbo on a fox body motor with high miles, its just begging for problems. personally i would rather have a na motor than a blower because you could always add nitrous or a blower after if its not quick enough and it will do awesome with the h/c/i combo. anyways i would say go h/c/i/ twisted wedge makes some great stuff depending on how much u want to spend.

[ April 14, 2003, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: y2kgt01 ]
 

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Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
you should be able to do the HCI and small NOS kit for under 2 grand.

thats the route i would go. learn to drive the car with that setup.
 

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Posted by Bounty Hunter (Member # 1422) on :
 
If you have a turbo and your changing your head gaskets often then there is a serious tunning issue,Whether it be a blower, turbo or NOS. The right tune with respect the specs of the motor will not blow gaskets, and if it does, don't blame the power adder blame your tune!
 

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Posted by SlowFiveOh94 (Member # 2404) on :
 
Hey everyone, Thanks for the feedback so far...

Glenn - My car has 43,500 origional miles on it so I'm pretty sure its at a good stage to slap on some major parts

Y2KGT01 - My car is an SN95 with 43,500 miles so what you said about a high milage fox body isnt really an issue for me

Chosen1 - Im DEFINATELY gonna need some kinds of driving lessons. Maybe I'll ask Drew to teach me some time because I heard he's the king

Would Nitrous be safe with the H/C/I combo? I wouldnt really be using it on the street because few cars on the street run 12's...it would basically be for the track or for if I just REALLY wanted to embarass someone on the street, ha

I'm expecting everything to be around $3g's cuz I wanna do it right. What is a good H/C/I combo? I think I'm leaning towards that instead of the blower cuz it would be cheaper and it would be nice to have the power N/A. The nitrous I'm expecting to be around $1000 because I'd be gettin the NX kit with GenX2 package (SP?) and remote bottle opener. And I'm guessin like $1g for the heads, $750ish for the intake cuz I want a polished one, and have $250 to spare for a cam. I'd be putting these all in with my friend Rob so install should be free or near free.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
I bought the NX gen II upgrade complete kit used for $450, you can too. Try the 'for sale' section on
corral.net
pscaracing.com
nmraracing.com (lots of crap here)
and I'm sure there's plenty others...

purge, bottle opener, bottle, gauge, lines and jets I got for $450, don't fear used, it works fine.
also, used heads/cam/intake stuff will certainly trim the budget. Fasterdamnit has a heads/cam/intake package that cost him I think a book of stamps and some pocket change
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by shade-tree:
can't go wrong either way. I went H/C/I + N20, but nothing wrong with a blower.

I don't know why anyone would say a turbo is "safer" than a blower, doesn't make sense to me. If anything blower cars are well understood and there are locals (Byron) that are experts in there tuning.

Good luck with a turbo car aka head gasket popper (see sig, lol)

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LOL, you can ask 93PONY about that turbo, (head gasket popper), thing being true

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