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Posted by 19falcon66 (Member # 2433) on
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Hey I was wondering if I can run 10.5:1 compression and still use pump gas not realy shure what to think I was told i could but I thought I would ask around and see hat other people think.
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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on
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Yes you can but you need aluminum heads.
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on
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why would u need aluminum heads i had 11.1 on a old chevy set up with iron heads
and yes u could run 10.5:1 on pump gas i have 10.5:1 on my new motor and im going to run 91 octane for it
just dont plan on supercharging it
Posted by 19falcon66 (Member # 2433) on
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i'm not going to supercharge it i am going to be runnong li ke 150 shot of nitrous and i will be using aluminum heads since it will be cheaper since i got a brand new short block.
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on
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u shouldnt have no problems then
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on
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Oh i thought that with that compression you would have to run aluminum heads i guess not.So if i were to rebuild my motor i could run 10.5/1 without any worry of it pinging?Would i still be able to run the same timing?
Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on
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if your car has computer controled timing then you can run a bit more compression than you can with a mechanical dist.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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IMO it really depends on the cam.
You can build a 11 to 1 compression motor that runs on pump gas if the cam is small enough. & you run into detonation on 9.5 to 1 motors with a good cam...
Compression ratio means very little. Cylinder pressure is what matters.
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Originally posted by 93mustangt:
Oh i thought that with that compression you would have to run aluminum heads i guess not.So if i were to rebuild my motor i could run 10.5/1 without any worry of it pinging?Would i still be able to run the same timing?
Aluminum heads "effectively" lower the compression ratio by drawing heat away from the combustion chamber. For example, a 8.8:1 iron headed motor would "act" like a 8.0:1 motor if the iron heads were replaced with identical aluminum castings.
93PONY- can you spec me a cam to fix my leaky power steering rack? Its getting kinda annoying.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by st5150:
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Originally posted by 93mustangt:
Oh i thought that with that compression you would have to run aluminum heads i guess not.So if i were to rebuild my motor i could run 10.5/1 without any worry of it pinging?Would i still be able to run the same timing?
Aluminum heads "effectively" lower the compression ratio by drawing heat away from the combustion chamber. For example, a 8.8:1 iron headed motor would "act" like a 8.0:1 motor if the iron heads were replaced with identical aluminum castings.
93PONY- can you spec me a cam to fix my leaky power steering rack? Its getting kinda annoying.
Actually, Aluminum heads disipate heat faster & allow you to run more cylinder pressure on a given octane....it does not lower your compression....
No cam for you!
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Which is why I said ""effectively"" and ""act"" in my post. Read what I wrote again and let me know if I wasn't clear on something because once again you just said what I said, but in a different way
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Nah. It's all about cylinder pressure....not compression. 2 different things....related, but no the same.
However in this instance, we are both saying you can run more.....cylinder pressure with aluminum heads given the same octane.
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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I never said cyl pressure and compression were the same thing
Posted by 91sleeper (Member # 779) on
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You guys are like two little kids fighting for who gets the credit.
Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on
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Obviously the guy who has a twin turbo cobra won the credit card fight and not the guy with the stock LX
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by st5150:
Obviously the guy who has a twin turbo cobra won the credit card fight and not the guy with the stock LX
That guy always wins.... Although he doesn't have any parts on the credit card.
Posted by mustanggt5091 (Member # 444) on
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You shouldnt have any problems. I run 11.1:1 compression on my car ( with aluminum heads )
and can still run 89 octane without knocking and pinging. I run a fuel injected motor so It may be a little different. I can tell you my brothers chevy 400 has 10.25:1 compression and runs fine with 91!
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