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92coupe
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ok i am getting a really good deal on a new shortblock, it has an x-303 cam in it, and has i believe the TRW forged pistons. i want some good heads, but i really dont want to have to change the pistons. ive heard the twisted wedges need notched pistons, which is what i want to avoid. will there be any clearance problems with the TW's?? if so what other heads should i look at?? i really need to make a decision soon, getting bored with my car. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Glenn
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AFR 165's will work with that block and cam I believe. Or any head with a 1.9 intake valve.
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DragGuam
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Stimson
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TW's don't need to be notched since their valves come in at an angle. TRW forged pistons are stock on a 5.O. www.californiafords.com/fastest.htm contact the fastest guys in each 'class' and ask them what they're running.
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92coupe
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really??? hmm.... i'm also thinking about getting either the holley systamax 2 intake or the edelbrock rpm 2 intake. what are some good heads with these??
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
Posts: 1209 | From: antioch | Registered: Oct 2002
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Stimson
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The RPM-2 will be fine with either the TW's or AFR's.
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92coupe
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ok i was just told that the TRW pistons arent oem parts. so will the TW's work with sotck pistons??
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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The Rick
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Originally posted by 92coupe:
ok i was just told that the TRW pistons arent oem parts. so will the TW's work with sotck pistons??
Mine did.
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Posts: 868 | From: plumas lake (sacramento area) | Registered: Jul 2001
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Stimson
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Its common knowledge that TRW made the stock forged pistons for Ford to put in the 5.O's from '87 to '92. Yes, trick flows TW's will work with stock pistons. Even though they have a larger valve, the valve comes in at an angle so it provides more clearance compared to inline heads that have valves come in straight down.
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JoeT
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ummm.... with any given cam a TFS head is going to have less clearance than an inline head on a stock shortblock... ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Stimson
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I was sugar coating things a bit Compare the TW's same valve size to valve size to an inline head
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92coupe
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HAHA i told my friend that TRW were stock pistons, he said otherwise. he even offered to bet money, damn i crumble under pressure from confident people. but anyways, so this shortblock a X-303 cam in it already will this effect the valve clearance or should i be good?? and what inake should i get the holley or rpm 2??
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Camara90
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with an x cam and a set of 165's i put down 353 rwhp, and ran a best of 12.3 at 114.8 od nittos.
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std. 356hp, 350tq
11.85@111.9mph on motor.
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Stimson
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Dude, you should have called his bluff! Would I mislead you? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
http://www.mustanggt.org/gtchange.htm Scroll down to '87
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For 1987, the Mustang was extensively restyled (inside and out).
Engine:
Throttle body and intake bore increased from 58mm to 60mm for 1987.
1986 high-swirl heads were ditched in favor of the truck E7TE castings with 9.0:1 compression.
1986-only flat top pistons were replaced by TRW forged pistons with valve reliefs.
A larger battery rated at 540 amps became standard.
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92coupe
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ok cool then i should be fine, what kinda number should i be looking at with some TW's, x cam, holley or rpm2 intake, 70mm tb , 73mm maf, and some 24# injectors?? im not looking to make godly amounts of power but i want something that can hit a 12 second 1/4 na. also any good tips on making a good wide power band with decent low end torque?? also my car is an atuomatic.
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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ihatethesesns
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Originally posted by st5150:
contact the fastest guys in each 'class' and ask them what they're running.
Wow that was a good attempt at staying away from the whole proven combo debate.
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Posts: 1283 | From: Toy Shop | Registered: Dec 2001
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Glenn
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Originally posted by Camara90:
with an x cam and a set of 165's i put down 353 rwhp, and ran a best of 12.3 at 114.8 od nittos.
were these out of the box AFR's? Or were they ported. Thanks.
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DragGuam
Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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92coupe
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hey camara90, what intake where you using to hit the 353rwhp? how much torque??
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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92coupe
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anyone else?? i need some kinda deciding factor here.
[ April 12, 2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: 92coupe ]
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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Glenn
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Originally posted by 92coupe:
anyone else?? i need some kinda deciding factor here.
It is all about what you can afford. If you want, you can wait and see when my car is done, and dynod, what kind of power it puts out. It should be done in two weeks. I am going with AFR 165's Edelbrock RPM intake, Long Tubes, and a custom cam.
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DragGuam
Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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FasterDamnit
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Originally posted by Glenn:
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Originally posted by 92coupe:
anyone else?? i need some kinda deciding factor here.
It is all about what you can afford. If you want, you can wait and see when my car is done, and dynod, what kind of power it puts out. It should be done in two weeks. I am going with AFR 165's Edelbrock RPM intake, Long Tubes, and a custom cam.
What compression?
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Glenn
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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
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Originally posted by Glenn:
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Originally posted by 92coupe:
anyone else?? i need some kinda deciding factor here.
It is all about what you can afford. If you want, you can wait and see when my car is done, and dynod, what kind of power it puts out. It should be done in two weeks. I am going with AFR 165's Edelbrock RPM intake, Long Tubes, and a custom cam.
What compression?
Stock, the heads are 61cc though.
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DragGuam
Posts: 2009 | From: Stationed on a Pacific Island, Guam | Registered: Oct 2001
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92coupe
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well what is better straight out of the box, TW's or 165's???
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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93PONY
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Originally posted by 92coupe:
well what is better straight out of the box, TW's or 165's???
AFR165's
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92coupe
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ok i was just looking at the AFR site and the 185's are only 25 bucks more, just i get these intsead?? would i have problems with piston 2 valve clearance with an x-303 cam (.542intake .542 exhuast)??
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94-GT BLOWN & STROKED
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