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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Well tonight was an interesting night...Eric (66 AC Cobra) towed me up to the track, Thanks Eric.

We were gonna run the car on the 150 shot for the first time out but we forgot to bring the timing gun to back some timing off. So we left it at 10 along with the advance on the chip and used the 100hp jets instead. I mixed some 110 in with my 91 octane to average right around 100 octane. By the end of the night we realized that my 26" tires were too small and I was running out of gear by the line. I think that's why the mph is sooo low.

The first pass on the nitrous I did the following:

60' - 1.86
1/8th mile - 7.68 @92.62
1/4 mile - 11.90 @115.17

The second run was the best and I was really happy with it:

60' - 1.08 (the 60' light was all screwed up)
1/8th mile - 6.81 @92.92
1/4 mile - 11.06 @116.78

The third run went like this:

60' - 1.57
1/8th mile - 7.37 @92.52
1/4 mile - 11.62 @114.50

After that I had a nitrous backfire that ballooned my K&N Filter and blew my C&L inlet tube off.

My best time was kind a wierd cause of the low 60' but when you look at all the other times it seems to be right as the 1/8 mile times all are 6/10ths and 3/10ths apart respectively... We even checked with the time clock guys and they said the 1/4' mph and ets were accurate tonight. They said something could have blown by the 60' light just before I crossed it...

Here are my timeslips:







jacked up 11.06 run

[ June 13, 2005, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: twstd5o ]
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
Hey bro...you did not run an 11.0. As you can see from the time slip, you are at least a half a second off on your sixty foot and stayed a half a second off the pace on the whole run. Your mph at half track was always 92mph. The only thing that change between your first and third pass was that you hooked a lot better going from a 1.86 to a 1.57....the .29 better in the sixty gave you .28 at the end. Normally, when you get a better sixty foot it will increase the margin of how much you improve at the end. However, your mph was down on your third run, which could equate to how you were driving/shifting or how the car was running, etc.

As you can see from the 11.0 pass, your mph was par at half track and at the end. The sixty foot light was probably working just fine. It looks like the light that is triggered when your car launched was not working accurately and was triggered by your back tires instead of the front tires. I've seen this wayyyyyyyyyy to many times. I've also had it happen myself.
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Congrats on 11's!

Solo's got it right. Your back tires tripped the lights, hense your 1.08 60ft. You 1/8th mile MPH would need to be around 100 or better to run 11.0's.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:
Congrats on 11's!

Solo's got it right. Your back tires tripped the lights, hense your 1.08 60ft. You 1/8th mile MPH would need to be around 100 or better to run 11.0's.

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I just pulled my time slips for my 10.90 passes back in my maroon car. I was at a 99mph at 1/8th mile. Now, I can understand a 'lighter' car having less mph than a heavy car running the same ETs...however, no ones cars are as light as mine...lol (family excluded )

Also, checked my 9.56/9.60 passes and my 330 foots were 4.0. I am pretty confident that I would be more than a tenth ahead of this car considering I sixtied in the 1.3s on both passes

Now if I had to guess, I would say that John91Coupe would most likely be in the 4.1 range on his 330 foots because his car is much heavier than mine. However, his car takes charge in the top end with his 150 mph making him make up ost ground from the front half of the track. And I am very confident that John91Coupe would be ahead of this car at the 330 foot
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
My rear tires tripped the lights??? That's weird. Oh well, there go all my hopes and dreams....crushed...j/k
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
My rear tires tripped the lights??? That's weird. Oh well, there go all my hopes and dreams....crushed...j/k

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heres the interesting part

on the 11.6 run, he wasnt paying attention on the 2-3 shift and revved it to 7k instead of a normal 6300 or so, the car he was racing gained about 3 car lengths on him when this happened, so its not an 11.0 but it should go faster than 11.6

with a few more runs and the 150, i think a 10.99 is possible, oh and a 28" tire
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Not to mention that on the screwed 11.0 run the mph was 2.28 mph faster then the 11.6 run. If I tripped the lights accurately on the 116 mph run I wonder if the ET could have been 11.4 or better?

How much higher could my 1/8 and 1/4 mile mph have been with a 28' tire?

[ June 11, 2005, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: twstd5o ]
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Not to mention that on the screwed 11.0 run the mph was 2.28 mph faster then the 11.6 run. If I tripped the lights accurately on the 116 mph run I wonder if the ET could have been 11.4 or better?

How much higher could my 1/8 and 1/4 mile mph have been with a 28' tire?

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With your car, it seems like the tune was 'consistent' meaning that the main thing that would change your time is shifting and getting that thing to hook out of the hole. It may have been better than 11.6 if it hooked harder and had a better sixty than the 11.6. I would guess an low 11.50 high 11.40 is reasonable with your current setup. I would be very surprised if you got that car to go a ten with only a 50 hp shot more and a taller tire. But hey...never know...anything is possible

Congrats again on getting your 11 second time slips. And too bad the fictitious time slip couldnt at least have shown you a 10...sheesh
 

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Posted by Spellbound (Member # 1553) on :
 
My girl friend raced her car last night and had a wierd time slip. She was running 12.1's @ 113 most of the night and one run everything was consistant all the way up to the 1000ft mark, but her mph was down to 108, at the end, but her ET was still a 12.1??? She said it pulled all the way thru the traps. To lose that much MPH, wouldn't the car feel like it fell flat on its face?
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
At least I have a video to show an 11 flat pass even though it isn't valid...

Thanks guys
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
don't talk about a Video post it good job on hitting the 11's glad to see you got some good 60 foot times out of your MT radials.
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks...the video is at the bottom of my first post...

Let me know what you think!!
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I could never get it to play
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Hmmm....it works for me. I tried it at my parents house too. It may just take a while to load. I think it's like 18megs...

Lemme try it again:

11.06 run...look how far up I am

[ June 12, 2005, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: twstd5o ]
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
This pass reminds me of a bet I had back in the day. A homie of mine told me I couldn't run an 11 on the motor in my old maroon car. I ran 12.00000000000000000000 many many many times. I decided this time its on. I did a burnout and went past the starting line (intentionally). For those that have done a burnout past the starting line understand that when you backup, you will trip the staging lights twice...back tires first then front tires. Well, to guarantee this 11 second pass, I only backed up and tripped the staging lights once. I literally lined up on the rear tires. Sure enough...I ran an 11.80 on the motor
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
You know what...I actually inched through the lights on accident and had to back up a bit. I was so anxious to run I was over excited a bit. That must have been why the 60' was how it was...Eric and I were thinking I set a DR world record for a second there...

[ June 11, 2005, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: twstd5o ]
 

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Posted by mustanggt5091 (Member # 444) on :
 

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By the end of the night we realized that my 26" tires were too small and I was running out of gear by the line. I think that's why the mph is sooo low.

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
By the end of the night we realized that my 26" tires were too small and I was running out of gear by the line. I think that's why the mph is sooo low.

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what gears do you have??? what were you shifting at???

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4.10's, shifting around 6300, hes on a 275/50 mt radial, basically a 26x10
 

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 
congrats twisted50. I too finally broke into the 11's. 11.97 @ 116mph. I think my driving sucks, and having full interior doesn't help.

[ June 11, 2005, 10:44 PM: Message edited by: Glenn ]
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 
good shit on the 11's bro! but you didnt run an 11.0. notice you don't even have a reaction time? you probly jumped the lights right before they counted down, hence the rear wheel start and pro stock 60' time.
the other times stand corect tho
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks guys...

There were a couple times where my timeslips had no times on them at all...no reaction, 60', 330, 880, nothing. Weird.

Where were the regular TnT crew that works the track? The slip were a mess. They were scattered all over the table.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Thanks guys...

There were a couple times where my timeslips had no times on them at all...no reaction, 60', 330, 880, nothing. Weird.

Where were the regular TnT crew that works the track? The slip were a mess. They were scattered all over the table.

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regular? Man, I haven't seen the same 2 people working there in a long tim EXCEPT FOR ELJEFE!!!! I remember Sac about 5 years ago. Dave Jr. running the tree, Mary running the lanes, and Lonnie running tech.

Check this out...last grudge night I'm sitting at the front of one of the lanes. I'm being patient cuz I am letting my car cool down from the last run. The guy pulling the lanes comes up to me and said 'what are you waiting for?' I point to him and said 'YOU'. He said 'Oh go when you are ready, I was waiting for you'...WTF

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Congrats on the 11's Tony!

Also, congrats to Glenn for getting into the 11's!

With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line

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no clutch and tranny, so you are experimenting with some typoe of direct drive system, hmmm
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Flinstone Powered...
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 
Congrats Tony!! Hopefully a 10 sec pass is not too far behind
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks Alan...

Yeah me too. How'd the seat work out for you?
 

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Posted by h8louzn (Member # 1075) on :
 
Hey tony, nice times!
If you look at your video it looks like your a little to far up there!!
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks Eddie...

Yeah I was all screwed up at the lights that day.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line

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no clutch and tranny, so you are experimenting with some typoe of direct drive system, hmmm

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His car at least ran at one time and will run again this year
 

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Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line

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no clutch and tranny, so you are experimenting with some typoe of direct drive system, hmmm

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His car at least ran at one time and will run again this year

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Congrats on the 11's Tony!

Also, congrats to Glenn for getting into the 11's!

With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Thanks, but I don't think my car will catch yours, your car is just a beast man. I am set at only reaching 11.50, and I am done. No roll bars for me. maybe....
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by Team SOLO:

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line

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no clutch and tranny, so you are experimenting with some typoe of direct drive system, hmmm

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His car at least ran at one time and will run again this year

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LOL

What can I say. Its just frustrating taking the car out and beating on it when its not running up to its full potential.
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 

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I am set at only reaching 11.50, and I am done. No roll bars for me. maybe....

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Once you hit your goal...You'll be thinking of what you can do to be faster on the way home from the track...

All I wanted was an 11 second slip...and now with that teaser of that damned 11.06 false pass, I have to get a 10 somehow, some way.
 

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:

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I am set at only reaching 11.50, and I am done. No roll bars for me. maybe....

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Once you hit your goal...You'll be thinking of what you can do to be faster on the way home from the track...

All I wanted was an 11 second slip...and now with that teaser of that damned 11.06 false pass, I have to get a 10 somehow, some way.

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What RPM are you launching at? A 1.57 60' is nice.

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Thanks...

I have a 4200 stall so from idle, I think it flashes at around 3500 when I mash on it.

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Were you squeezing out of the gate?
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
AAaaahhh Yeah...
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 

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AAaaahhh Yeah...

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Congrats Glenn...

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With my car getting slower and yours getting faster, you guys will be beating me up in no time.

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Beating you up??? Highly unlikely I think we'll be chasing you for quite some time.

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Well currently my car is minus 1 clutch, 1 tranny, and one set of headers. So I don't think you would have much a problem leaving me at the starting line

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no clutch and tranny, so you are experimenting with some typoe of direct drive system, hmmm

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His car at least ran at one time and will run again this year

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the mustang runs right now, it has a stock motor but it runs

the cobra runs, has been running all year

and the vega should run if the machine shop would hurry up with my stuff
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 

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transbrake and wire the jug up to it !!!!!

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Transbrake is on the list of To Do's...

Along with subframes, battery relocate, etc. Now if I can a way to do it all without the wife finding out...
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Thanks guys...

There were a couple times where my timeslips had no times on them at all...no reaction, 60', 330, 880, nothing. Weird.

Where were the regular TnT crew that works the track? The slip were a mess. They were scattered all over the table.

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since dave and germane split up it's been a mess on friday nights since her dad used to do the timeslips. i hate to leave it like that but i physically can't work that much.

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since dave and germane split up it's been a mess on friday nights since her dad used to do the timeslips. i hate to leave it like that but i physically can't work that much.

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I hear ya...

Who's the older tech inspection guy with the long blond hair??? He's a bit tougher to get by.

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I saw him the first time a couple weeks ago. He definitely is 'tougher' but he is accurate and knows his stuff. If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have known my seat belts are up next month.
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 
hey, i told you that you needed belts!

but the guy with long blond hair, his name is rick, he's actually really cool
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Yeah he's a cool guy... we talked a bit yesterday cause he remembered me from the time I got booted a couple months back.

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He definitely is 'tougher' but he is accurate and knows his stuff. If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have known my seat belts are up next month.

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He's very thorough... My helmet isn't snell approved but he said I could still run yesterday, luckily for me.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
Tony & Glenn congrats on the new #'s and joining the 11 sec club

Looks like we have a good group of strong running Stangs in the 11's here.....

Sorry to hear about the backfire taking out some of your mods been there!

Next grudge night should be fun.
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Thanks Patrick...

You shoulda seen the filter. It looked like a mushroom.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by twstd5o:
Thanks Patrick...

You shoulda seen the filter. It looked like a mushroom.

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By the way how/when in the run did the backfire happen?


 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
It happened on the 4th nitrous run about the 330' mark. The car felt like the nitrous didn't kick in and all of a sudden it did and bang. The inlet tube was off a bit as well as the filter problem. I don't know if the tube was off slightly before the run or what. I have that on video too. You can see a huge cloud of smoke come out of the tail pipes. Pressure on that run was about 800-850 on the guage.

I'll post it on here when I go home.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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It happened on the 4th nitrous run about the 330' mark. The car felt like the nitrous didn't kick in and all of a sudden it did and bang. The inlet tube was off a bit as well as the filter problem. I don't know if the tube was off slightly before the run or what. I have that on video too. You can see a huge cloud of smoke come out of the tail pipes. Pressure on that run was about 800-850 on the guage.

I'll post it on here when I go home.

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Tony - sent ya a pm
 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:

and the vega should run if the machine shop would hurry up with my stuff [/QB]

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you can always pick up the back and run with it
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Here is the backfire video...nothing to spectacular.

backfire
 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
too bad your upper intake didnt shoot through the hood j/k
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 

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too bad your upper intake didnt shoot through the hood j/k

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yeah and into the stands like a foul ball... Bring your glove meat...
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by HungryHippo:

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:

and the vega should run if the machine shop would hurry up with my stuff

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you can always pick up the back and run with it [/QB]

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"i can push my car faster than you can push your car"
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 

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yeah and into the stands like a foul ball... Bring your glove meat...
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LMAO.. one of the better replys

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I was thinking only Giants fans would appreciate that one...
 

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Posted by GradGT (Member # 3910) on :
 
I saw you at the track on friday. One of the couple mustangs that were there. test and tune is fuuunnnnnnnnn!
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
You shoulda come over to say wassup...I use to live in Antioch.

Yeah TnT on Friday is cool... There's usually always a lite turnout which makes for more runs.
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 
Ahh, Tony, that is seat is absolutely awesome! Thanks for the smokin' deal bro

Lee said he wants my TKO, so I've decided to go with a C4. I'm going have Big Boy weld in my wild rides cage and hopefully go 9's with a T-trim!!

I'll see you at the track soon(if Lee gets off his ass, just kidding!)!

Oh, and that website kicks ass Tony
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 
Hey Tony, are you going to the CAFords show? I might bring out my newly SQ-charged 95 Cobra, hmmmmm, maybe I'll see you at the track sooner than I thought. I still might bring out the race car to the show, we'll see, only if they didn't charge to park in the show........New Cogged T-trim for the racer!
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
Alan,

Glad you like the seat...they're pretty comfortable for how inexpensive they are...

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Lee said he wants my TKO, so I've decided to go with a C4. I'm going have Big Boy weld in my wild rides cage and hopefully go 9's with a T-trim!!

I'll see you at the track soon(if Lee gets off his ass, just kidding!)!

Oh, and that website kicks ass Tony

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Oh, and that website kicks ass Tony

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Thanks...it was really easy to make. So easy, you get addicted to adding stuff to it.
 

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Posted by BlueOvalRacing (Member # 1531) on :
 
The dyno graph on your website - is that when you had your Lunati cam?
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
No...that was actually with the xe274hr cam. That was my n/a tune and hp numbers that I had just prior to the NX kit.
 

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Posted by archersgt (Member # 5177) on :
 
even though you had a bad expiriance with it are you still gonna spray?
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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if your talking about the little nitrous backfire, hell yeah he is gonna spray it again, its gonna get 50% more too:whoowhoo:
 

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Posted by twstd5o (Member # 1981) on :
 
As Eric said....Hell ya I'm gonna spray again.

The backfire was just a minor technicality. I'm hooked and don't wanna do anymore n/a runs EVER...


 

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