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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
whats the best et i should get with a 97-98 mph trap...i pulled a 14.1 at 96.9mph with a 1.9 60ft and a ~3200lb car with 373's 5 speed...think i can dip in the 13's?


[ April 08, 2003, 08:53 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
yes, powershift, powershift, powershift
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
98 MPH is good for 13.8 with some great driving. No power shifting needed at this level. Here is what I did:


 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
3 years ago this July, lol
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
and to think I picked up 4 MPH and only 0.15 seconds since then
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
yes, powershift, powershift, powershift

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.......Sounds like a good idea to me...
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Back in the day when my car still had stock heads I went 13.336 @ 98.6 MPH

So to answer you question, 13's are VERY doable with just 98 MPH
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
that doesn't sound like a 3.08 + pep boy radial ET there buddy

I'm guessing 4.10s + an ET Street
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Haha, not far off Joe. It was with 3.73's and a 26 inch tall ET Street
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Oh yeah, I vote for NO powershifting.

You should ask those guys who advised it how many trannies they have gone through and how much powershifting REALLY helped

BTW, 66 cobra dude, I know you have a 3550 so you don't count
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 
Haven't broken mine yet. Worth a solid tenth.



 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
The players club of power shifters (Bob Cosby, ect) claim its worth more than a tenth.... and a nice chunk of MPH as well
 

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Posted by KCmustangboy (Member # 1927) on :
 

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Originally posted by st5150:
The players club of power shifters (Bob Cosby, ect) claim its worth more than a tenth.... and a nice chunk of MPH as well

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Originally posted by KCmustangboy:

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Originally posted by st5150:
The players club of power shifters (Bob Cosby, ect) claim its worth more than a tenth.... and a nice chunk of MPH as well

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How much money do they have again? and what tranny do they run?

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Don't remember the exact number, but he ran 12.5@108 mph with a stock motored 5.O by power shifting like a Kangaroo in heat

Drew- that was Ed Hornberg (sp) that use go go through a T5 every other NHRA race.... Ed also ran 11.9's with a NHRA spec stock 5.O motor

[ April 09, 2003, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: st5150 ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
Ah, thats right
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 
power shifting a foxbody hatch will leed to creased 'a pillars' unless a very rigid frame exists prior. ask me how i know
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by season'd 88:
power shifting a foxbody hatch will leed to creased 'a pillars' unless a very rigid frame exists prior. ask me how i know

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Originally posted by season'd 88:
power shifting a foxbody hatch will leed to creased 'a pillars' unless a very rigid frame exists prior. ask me how i know

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Sub frames didn't help me much :-\






 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 
I don't have a mark. 100's of passes (several.)

 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:

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Originally posted by season'd 88:
power shifting a foxbody hatch will leed to creased 'a pillars' unless a very rigid frame exists prior. ask me how i know

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Oooh, I would have liked to see that! Guess its a good thing I put in subframes. Will you hit Fri. night, Rhett?

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Yes, ill most likely be there. i have a rain check burning a hole in my pocket.
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
I'm sure durring the extra ~100,000 miles my car has over most other 5.O's; all the pot holes, speed bumps, count for something as well.
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 

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Originally posted by st5150:
I'm sure durring the extra ~100,000 miles my car has over most other 5.O's; all the pot holes, speed bumps, count for something as well.

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that, and in my case trips to the dump one of these days ill break down and get a pickup.
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Back in the day when my car still had stock heads I went 13.336 @ 98.6 MPH

So to answer you question, 13's are VERY doable with just 98 MPH

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how much did your car weigh and what was your 60ft if you remember?

-.. well the best i have gotten so far is 14.1 with a 1.991 60ft at 96.994 so i guess i have to keep trying... any advice on were i should shift at .... its a all stock 90 lx except for c&l 76mm mass air stock censor with the true flow inlet tube and bbk equal lenghts bassani high flow x with dyno bullets ... maybe my problem is i have sportline springs?

i went to sac yesterday and it was my first time on bfg d/r and my best mph was 98 and my d/r's were brand new and are almost bald

hey sawnson did you take your front sway bar of when you hit 13's? did you take any weight out of your car?

thanks

[ April 10, 2003, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Back in the day when my car still had stock heads I went 13.336 @ 98.6 MPH

So to answer you question, 13's are VERY doable with just 98 MPH

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how much did your car weigh and what was your 60ft if you remember?

-.. well the best i have gotten so far is 14.1 with a 1.991 60ft at 96.994 so i guess i have to keep trying... any advice on were i should shift at .... its a all stock 90 lx except for c&l 76mm mass air stock censor with the true flow inlet tube and bbk equal lenghts bassani high flow x with dyno bullets ... maybe my problem is i have sportline springs?



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Race weight was 3450 lbs. I believe the 60ft was a 1.72x I'm sure it was no faster than that because that was my best 60ft before the head swap.

My only advice to you is to shift by the seat of your pants. As soon as the car feel like it is "falling off grab the next gear. Also, just keep imporving your shifting speed
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
I didn't have my sway bar connected and as for weight reduction, just the spare and jack compared to normal street duty. I believe I was somewhere around 3275 lbs going down the track that day.

-Sawson

[ April 10, 2003, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: st5150 ]
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Oh yeah, I vote for NO powershifting.

You should ask those guys who advised it how many trannies they have gone through and how much powershifting REALLY helped

BTW, 66 cobra dude, I know you have a 3550 so you don't count

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Hey what are you saying?..lol..
...Hey, I've seen about .2-.3 tenths just by powershifting, I might have sacrificed a few T5's but hey!?!..

....I still dont know how you havent broken your T5!..You'll have to let me in on that one..

-Drew, how do you shift?..Do you fully lift the throttle inbetween shifts or do you just use the clutch a little more?..
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
I'm not sure exactly how much I lift off the throttle. Its enough that you can't here the RPM's climb with the clutch is disengadged. I'll just say this, my left foot is much faster than my right...lol
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
yea im working on my shifting speed and im getting better... ive been to the track 4 times with my car and finally im getting consistant with low 14's not much to be happy about but i am

another question i have is how much is taking my front sway bar going to help and in what areas would it help me... also would it help to remove the control bar in the rear?
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I'm not sure exactly how much I lift off the throttle. Its enough that you can't here the RPM's climb with the clutch is disengadged. I'll just say this, my left foot is much faster than my right...lol

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I'm not sure exactly how much I lift off the throttle. Its enough that you can't here the RPM's climb with the clutch is disengadged. I'll just say this, my left foot is much faster than my right...lol

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That sounds to me like Bill Clinton's defense regarding Lewinsky. "I did not have relations.... (I mean powershift that car) lol "

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
I'm not sure exactly how much I lift off the throttle. Its enough that you can't here the RPM's climb with the clutch is disengadged. I'll just say this, my left foot is much faster than my right...lol

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That sounds to me like Bill Clinton's defense regarding Lewinsky. "I did not have relations.... (I mean powershift that car) lol "

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Would this work better, I don't powershift . How is that?

[ April 10, 2003, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
here is my timeslip maybe someone can tell me where i am messing up

Reaction : 1.164
I1: 1.991
I2: 5.846
I3: 9.046
MPH(I3): 77.031
I4: 11.813

E.T.: 14.152
MPH: 96.994

though my mph is low in this run for some reason i have a best of 98mph at a 14.2

also what will taking my sway bar off do and how will it help? does it help my 60ft?

[ April 10, 2003, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
NOTHING will help you in bracket racing unless you cut that reaction in half religiously. 14.1 @ 96 doesn't sound too bad to me. If you can hit 98 at times then just learn where it is best to shift and and what not and you will make it to the 13's. Goodluck.
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
here is my timeslip maybe someone can tell me where i am messing up

Reaction : 1.164
I1: 1.991
I2: 5.846
I3: 9.046
MPH(I3): 77.031
I4: 11.813

E.T.: 14.152
MPH: 96.994

though my mph is low in this run for some reason i have a best of 98mph at a 14.2

also what will taking my sway bar off do and how will it help? does it help my 60ft?

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A little tire spin off the line will bring the 1/4 MPH up a little bit. This could account for your 98 MPH pass. A dead hook will not MPH as good.

What tires are you using? Disconnecting the sway bar will allow the body of the car to travle more, there fore placing more weigh on the back tires where it is needed for better 60fts. If you are on street tires this could show little gains though
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
NOTHING will help you in bracket racing unless you cut that reaction in half religiously. 14.1 @ 96 doesn't sound too bad to me. If you can hit 98 at times then just learn where it is best to shift and and what not and you will make it to the 13's. Goodluck.

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yea i guess thats what it will take is time ... this wed my reaction times all were .6-- so im not to worried about those

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A little tire spin off the line will bring the 1/4 MPH up a little bit. This could account for your 98 MPH pass. A dead hook will not MPH as good.

What tires are you using? Disconnecting the sway bar will allow the body of the car to travle more, there fore placing more weigh on the back tires where it is needed for better 60fts. If you are on street tires this could show little gains though

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well when i hit the 14.1 i was on m/t sportsmans and they hook great for a stock car and this wed i went out on my new bfg drag radials and popped out a 98 at 14.2 i hot lapped my car i think that was my 13.9-14.0 run

i tried launching a diff way and it worked for me so i guess ill be out there again on 4-23-03 thanks
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
and damn my brand new bfg's are almost gone .... i was smoking the hell out of them ... is that ness or do i just need to get a light haze?

o a funny thing is when i was doing my burnout the guy was trying to tell me to stop i was like wtf ? and kept it at 5,000rpm hahah

do any of you go out on wed or just test n tunes?
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
and damn my brand new bfg's are almost gone .... i was smoking the hell out of them ... is that ness or do i just need to get a light haze?

o a funny thing is when i was doing my burnout the guy was trying to tell me to stop i was like wtf ? and kept it at 5,000rpm hahah

do any of you go out on wed or just test n tunes?

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I at both 9 times out of 10
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
ive gone the last two wed did you go?
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
I skipped this last wed.....but I will be out there tonight
 

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