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Posted by Jim Demmitt Jr. (Member # 2440) on :
 
Hello there
For those of you that ben to Sac test and tune on Sat may have noticed me and my silver SC thunderbird with chrome cobra R' loud fast and quick 12.034et

LOOKING FOR A CHALLENGER! I may have met some of you there is so let me know?
 

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Posted by Jim Demmitt Jr. (Member # 2440) on :
 
I have a SVT Cobra R 2000.
Member of the Nor-Cal SVTOA club anyone here from that club?
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 
Jim Langley Jr. will race you. Oh wait, we already did...

Me 12.16, you 12.17

Have a nice day!
 

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Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on :
 

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
Jim Langley Jr. will race you. Oh wait, we already did...

Me 12.16, you 12.17

Have a nice day!

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someone post the owned picture, hehehe
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
I'll run you on motor as well.

Can you do us a favor and buy a muffler ok thanks
 

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Posted by griffined (Member # 1330) on :
 
Still trying for 11's Jim? Nice meeting you at Sacto a couple weeks ago. I still have my raincheck to use, but I think I'll pass on your offer. Too fast for me.

Ed
 

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Posted by PSYCHORAM (Member # 2000) on :
 
SC Bird vs. Turbo Diesel....let's go
 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Hello there
For those of you that ben to Sac test and tune on Sat may have noticed me and my silver SC thunderbird with chrome cobra R' loud fast and quick 12.034et

LOOKING FOR A CHALLENGER! I may have met some of you there is so let me know?

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How could anyone not notice when you are at the track? Your 12 second car makes more freakin noise than most 9 second cars BUY A MUFFLER!

[ February 11, 2003, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: Yellow94GT ]
 

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Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
I may be to slow, but i will give it a try
 

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Posted by Jim Demmitt Jr. (Member # 2440) on :
 
Thanks Guys!
The reason its so loud is becouse of the horsepower big ported heads flow so nice and the Supercharger pushing lots of air

P.S The match up with the bad Ass mustang was neat cant wait to run again you guys got nice cars I love Mustang Cobras
 

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Posted by PSYCHORAM (Member # 2000) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Thanks Guys!
The reason its so loud is becouse of the horsepower big ported heads flow so nice and the Supercharger pushing lots of air

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Superchargers push air when idlein'? Dude my ride probly makes horsepower 2:1 to your ride...and it's quiet...ask anyone....the only complaint is the smoke
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by PSYCHORAM:

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Thanks Guys!
The reason its so loud is becouse of the horsepower big ported heads flow so nice and the Supercharger pushing lots of air

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Superchargers push air when idlein'? Dude my ride probly makes horsepower 2:1 to your ride...and it's quiet...ask anyone....the only complaint is the smoke

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Thanks Guys!
The reason its so loud is becouse of the horsepower big ported heads flow so nice and the Supercharger pushing lots of air

P.S The match up with the bad Ass mustang was neat cant wait to run again you guys got nice cars I love Mustang Cobras

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Hello there
For those of you that ben to Sac test and tune on Sat may have noticed me and my silver SC thunderbird with chrome cobra R' loud fast and quick 12.034et

LOOKING FOR A CHALLENGER! I may have met some of you there is so let me know?

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Damn you got a super coupe to run lo 12's thats impressive I used to have a 90 also but ran far from 12's

[ February 12, 2003, 10:44 PM: Message edited by: GR40coupe ]
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 

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Originally posted by GR40coupe:

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Hello there
For those of you that ben to Sac test and tune on Sat may have noticed me and my silver SC thunderbird with chrome cobra R' loud fast and quick 12.034et

LOOKING FOR A CHALLENGER! I may have met some of you there is so let me know?

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Damn you got a super coupe to run lo 12's thats impressive I used to have a 90 also but ran far from 12's

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not really, it hasn't been registered in like 2 years, it's got a cog belt drive and the worst exhaust of all time.
 

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Posted by 01gtgearchirper (Member # 2343) on :
 
that turbo ram is a beast.. i was there like last wednesday and damn i lost track of the truck all i saw was the trail of smoke runnin a 13. haha... so whats exactly done to that thing ??
 

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Posted by Jim Demmitt Jr. (Member # 2440) on :
 
Thanks!
Its a little 3.8 V6 with ported heads and updated short block.I an the 2nd fastest SC in America looking to go 11.50's soon

We have no ECC tuner or chip its all tuning with fuel pressure and blower overdrive beat a lot of Vettes and Cobras not bad for a heavy tbird

Looking to meet more of you at Sac there going to Fridays soon good for blown cars like mine
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Thanks!
Its a little 3.8 V6 with ported heads and updated short block.I an the 2nd fastest SC in America looking to go 11.50's soon

We have no ECC tuner or chip its all tuning with fuel pressure and blower overdrive beat a lot of Vettes and Cobras not bad for a heavy tbird

Looking to meet more of you at Sac there going to Fridays soon good for blown cars like mine

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
Thanks!
Its a little 3.8 V6 with ported heads and updated short block.I an the 2nd fastest SC in America looking to go 11.50's soon

We have no ECC tuner or chip its all tuning with fuel pressure and blower overdrive beat a lot of Vettes and Cobras not bad for a heavy tbird

Looking to meet more of you at Sac there going to Fridays soon good for blown cars like mine

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GET MUFFLERS FIRST!

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:

Looking to meet more of you at Sac there going to Fridays soon good for blown cars like mine

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what?
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama,

Fridays....Sac....Test n Tune....Night time....Cold air....Supercharger....Good
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
Is this your thunderbird?


 

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Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Sawson, thats the one. Can't you see the guy covering his ears?! LOL!
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe:
GET MUFFLERS FIRST!

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You're all a bunch of pussys. Oowww, the bad car hurt my ears! MommmmYYYY!
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jeff S:
SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama,

Fridays....Sac....Test n Tune....Night time....Cold air....Supercharger....Good

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
My prior assesment stands.

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On second though, I think Jims car sounds a lot like that T Bird
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 

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Originally posted by Yellow94GT:

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
My prior assesment stands.

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On second though, I think Jims car sounds a lot like that T Bird

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You've got the video to prove it.
 

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Posted by Jim Demmitt Jr. (Member # 2440) on :
 
Bob Johnson Performance.
This little 3.8 V6 is built by Bob Johnson Performance in Carmichael Ca (916)481-9263 he is also is doing engine work for the fastest SVT Lightning truck and does Cobra DOHC SOHC engines for us Cobra guys this 3.8 is putting out 500hp to push this heavy Tbird this quick

You want to run fast in your Cobra call him look forward to racing you guys at Sac

[ February 14, 2003, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: Jim Demmitt Jr. ]
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe (Member # 895) on :
 
I don't get it everytime I say anything or somebody else says something about the Mufflers, he doesn't mention why he doesn't have them or anything to defend it, he doesn't even aknowldge it???
 

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Posted by Psycho Dave (Member # 739) on :
 
maybe hes happy with his car and the way it sounds and doesnt G.A.F. what everyone else thinks...its his car and if he likes it and enjoys it then leave him alone...it is a drag strip...loud cars do go there...half of you are probably upset that his tank of a v6 t-bird will have you looking at tail lights...get over it..

-Dave
 

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Posted by 281n/a (Member # 1465) on :
 
exactly who cares how loud his car his give the guy props for running great times with a v6 if that's the way he wants his car to be so be it
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
Psycho Dave, I'm guessing you haven't heard the car. It's not that it's LOUD it's that the tone is actually painful to hear. I am complaining and there is no chance in hell of me ever seeing his tail lights. It's because hearing the car is unpleasent.

I'm not impressed by a 12 second 6 cylinder with boost. Did anyone see that blue grand national running 8.6s with a v6 and a turbo???? Now that is pretty damn impressive. Sounded great too.
 

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Posted by 98slowhoe (Member # 895) on :
 

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
Psycho Dave, I'm guessing you haven't heard the car. It's not that it's LOUD it's that the tone is actually painful to hear. I am complaining and there is no chance in hell of me ever seeing his tail lights. It's because hearing the car is unpleasent.

I'm not impressed by a 12 second 6 cylinder with boost. Did anyone see that blue grand national running 8.6s with a v6 and a turbo???? Now that is pretty damn impressive. Sounded great too.

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Thank you!
 

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Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :
 
How much does the gnx weigh? You guys are aware that the t-bird is a fucking boat. Much props.
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 

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Originally posted by klonoa:
How much does the gnx weigh? You guys are aware that the t-bird is a fucking boat. Much props.

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Originally posted by eljefe:
i'd much rather listen to a honda with no exhaust.

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 

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Originally posted by klonoa:
How much does the gnx weigh? You guys are aware that the t-bird is a fucking boat. Much props.

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Originally posted by Jim Demmitt Jr.:
this 3.8 is putting out 500hp to push this heavy Tbird this quick

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
if it's 500 flywheel hp then the car would only have to weigh about 3600 lbs.

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What?!?

My car weighs 3550 going down the track & dynoed 430RWHP....I pulled 119.x in the 1/4 with a slipping clutch.
Typically a 430RWHP car (just under 500 flywheel) will put a 3500lb car in the 120mph area.
 

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Posted by GONE14S (Member # 2479) on :
 

I don't think they get it Jim!!
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
Of course this Thunderbird is an Automatic that will run less MPH due to the converter

I don't know why everyone is flipping out about the exhaust. Any day now it will be a 11 second freak'n Thunderbird V6 of all things
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 

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Originally posted by st5150:

I don't know why everyone is flipping out about the exhaust

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
if it's 500 flywheel hp then the car would only have to weigh about 3600 lbs.

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What?!?

My car weighs 3550 going down the track & dynoed 430RWHP....I pulled 119.x in the 1/4 with a slipping clutch.
Typically a 430RWHP car (just under 500 flywheel) will put a 3500lb car in the 120mph area.

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he has an auto, you have a stick, for you 430 hp is just under 500 at the flywheel but for him 415 rwhp is just under 500.

in a 3550 lb car with 430 rwhp the 1/4 et should be AROUND 11.6 @ 118. close to your run isn't it?

in a 3600 lb car with 415 rwhp the 1/4 et should be AROUND 11.96 @ 114. He runs 12 flat at 112.

Get it yet?
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
So, you're saying if he loses 50lbs & ups the boost by 1psi, he'll gain 6+mph..... Or if I put an auto in my car (which is ~50lbs heavier then my tremec) I'll run 6-7mph slower.... Don't think so.

FYI, I ran 119.xmph with a slipping clutch.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
FWIW my old 2001 Lightning weighed in at 4780#'s with me in it and made 415.3rwhp through an auto and ran 12.20 @ 110.5mph

I'd seriously hope i'd pick up more than 3.5mph if I dropped 1180#'s!!!

[ February 19, 2003, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
jeff you cant drive so you'd probably lose 3.5 mph

93 pony, fix your clutch and stop crying
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Just doesn't add up does it Chris.... Haha!

That car is either well over 4000lbs, or it's not making 500hp.
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
i just realized i was arguing over something i care nothing about. so for the first time ever on this site, i'll just give up and let you guys win
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
jeff you cant drive so you'd probably lose 3.5 mph

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Not sure where that came from but i'd bet money that if we drove the same manual transmission vehicle at the track i'd get better times and faster MPH than you...auto boy!
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
okay I'll bet you $100 you can't drive my mom's 5 speed tercel wagon faster than me.

Yeah that's right, i'm stuck driving a stick 99% of the time. And I GUARANTEE I can drive it faster than you. I haven't driven an auto in about 2 months and I haven't had a real race with an auto in about 5.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
dude I'll take that bet. Bring it to Sac Saturday, we each get 3 passes. Best ET wins.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama,

Lets do it. When are where?
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
i'm not going to let you beat up my mothers car

i'll tell you why i can drive it better than either of you can.

it has 4wd, it has extra low

here is the shifting pattern

EL 1 3 5
2 4 R

you can not launch in EL and then hit 1st gear power shifting 2 seconds after you launch (you can only do about 10 mph in EL).

so when you power shift EL to 1st you're making a complete U turn. trust me i've done it a million times and you wont get it on your first try. keep your money and i'll keep my mom's clutch.


 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
the shift pattern came out wrong, 2nd is directly under 1st and 4th is directly under 3rd
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
are you backing out there Paint Job? $100 is $100, if I smoke the clutch I'll pay for that too.
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
okay fine you're on

come to burlingame tonight or tomorrow night and we'll see who can drive it faster

you break it you buy it
 

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Posted by RO2USH (Member # 2002) on :
 
I don't really think you offered much of a challenge man, first off, you are offering to race a non street legal car to a bunch of guys and gals with street legal cars. V6, V8, V10, whatever...I applaud you for bitching that car into the 12's, and albeit almost 11's. However, if most people put the time and money into makeing a drag car like I am sure you did, 11's would be pretty consistent all around the board. Jake made his Ram run in the 13's, and that beast weighs quite a bit more than yours, and I know he did it a very small fraction of the cost of what yours was. Good job with the car, mufflers or no mufflers. now I offer a challenge to you...make it street legal and run similar times, and then we will talk.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 

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Originally posted by RO2USH:
I don't really think you offered much of a challenge man, first off, you are offering to race a non street legal car to a bunch of guys and gals with street legal cars

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Originally posted by RO2USH:
I don't really think you offered much of a challenge man, first off, you are offering to race a non street legal car to a bunch of guys and gals with street legal cars

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I disagree 100%, the guy has a stock looking turbocoupe heading for the mid 11's, slap a pair of mufflers on it and everyone would shut up.

A 12.0 car is a 12.0 car, I appreciate his post.

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I don't think it's a turbocoupe Pretty sure it's an SC Bird...Maybe the owner can fill us in on how streetable the car is...mufflers can always be added...he's probably trying to tune her up good and ready....and then deal with the minor details later.

My questions for Jim are:

1. Is it street legal? (I am guessing it's not because smogchecks are part of registration...but would be amazing if it did pass smog)

2. How is the streetability?
 

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Posted by ihatethesesns (Member # 684) on :
 
My guess is that it's supercharged seeing the title of the topic an all.
 

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Posted by GONE14S (Member # 2479) on :
 
Jims Jr. car is not reg. at this time. Although it will pass smog with know problems.
The exhaust is removeable.
They are running the car with open headers just to tune the motor itself.
They are not running a tunnig chip as of yet.
The car is running on motor and the modds only.

They will be tunning the car with the exhaust in awhile, as soon as they have all the bugs work out of the motor.

Yes, the SC t-bird is super charged.

It is hard to do tunning when Sac.Race way
is so packed.

[ February 23, 2003, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: GONE14S ]
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 

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Originally posted by PSYCHORAM:
I don't think it's a turbocoupe Pretty sure it's an SC Bird...

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well excuse me I picked the wrong word making a quick reply.
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
okay fine you're on

come to burlingame tonight or tomorrow night and we'll see who can drive it faster

you break it you buy it

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I already told you where to bring it. How the @#^$ are we supposed to know who won without a timeslip? A gay-tech? Your buddies stop watch? LMAO!
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
my friend's 4 cyl mustang paces with it, if he beats you, you lose. if it's a matter of a tenth of a second then that means we drive the same and there is no winner, thousands of a second dont really mean anything to me.

i'm not about to drive that piece of shit 2 hours to pay $40 to run 22s at the track. I made the bet i make the rules, i told YOU where to meet and you didnt reply to my post until AFTER the weekend although you had time to post at 9am on the 22nd and just ignore my challenge. Sounds like you're scared. So are you taking me up on my offer or what?
I'm not about to go out of my way to prove to you that I can drive this car better than you when I already know I can.

Hopefully you'll reply before next month,
Chris
 

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Posted by shade-tree (Member # 298) on :
 
pacing? LMAO. Surely you can think of a less accurate method? G-tech is better than that...

when you want to run it somewhere that it can be measured, let me know so I can collect my $100.

I had already said where I'd be: Sac raceway, obviously you chose to change that.

How about this? Take any 5-speed (or 6-speed) car, bring it to Sac. I'll beat you in it and take your $100.

[ February 23, 2003, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: shade-tree ]
 

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Posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama (Member # 1708) on :
 
i didnt say i could drive any other car faster than jeff, just my mom's. that was the deal. trust me, in this race you don't need an accurate measurement because you'll be so far behind.

It's okay, if you want to back out, i understand. i'm sure someone stole your manhood long ago so it's not like you have anything to lose.
 

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Posted by Mr. Paint Chip (Member # 2476) on :
 

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Originally posted by SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama:
i didnt say i could drive any other car faster than jeff, just my mom's.

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-mr paint chip is contracted, and authorized by the site.

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-sawson "the drama queen"

[ February 24, 2003, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: SIR Paint Job w/ '84 TercelOnYoMama ]
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
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[ February 24, 2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: Jeff S ]
 

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Posted by JSHTROD (Member # 299) on :
 
It's a fast, heavy, full interior car. And a V6 no less.

Quit whining about the exhaust already.

It's a cool ride...



Good on ya Jim.
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
I think everyone quit whining about the exhaust a week ago
 

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Posted by rob (Member # 50) on :
 
i'll race ya!
 

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