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Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
I am in the market for a best bang for the buck setup. I am currently in a rental house and want to get a 2-4 camera set up. Prefer it to be wireless with night vision.

Anyone know of some decent systems out there currently? I know the pricing has dropped a lot lately.
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Costco and you should build your own wall!
 
Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
Costco like sated above
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
I will need to go in today and check it out. Looking online, the WiFi cameras are expensive.
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
I got a 4 camera system from Fry's. Get an 8 camera DVR with 4 cameras. That leaves you the option to add cameras if you want.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
I was quoted on a home system today, tell me what you think.

One camera at the driveway, one at the back door and one in the doorbell. Sensors on every window alerting opening or breaking of the glass. Sensors on the doors with capability of controlling locks from a mobile unit. $300 install fee waived, they do all the work. $75 a month with a 3 year contract and can transfer to another home if I move.

Opinions?

[ 2016-09-27, 03:03 PM: Message edited by: Blue92 ]
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
2700 system bro, just buy one cash at costco. Or put it on a zero rate credit card.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Don't you need to have a lot of storage to hold the recordings?
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue92:
Don't you need to have a lot of storage to hold the recordings?
Don't most systems have built in storage? If they don't, terrabyte+ external HD's are pretty reasonable nowadays. I don't think you need to keep the recordings for too long, anyway.
 
Posted by LSXCHIVA (Member # 6001) on :
 
There's a survalliance camera at Costco going on sale Thursday. It's called the Night owl
 
Posted by FiveOGirl (Member # 4294) on :
 
I'm also looking for cemeras. Someone stole a ladder off my work truck on Saturday night.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Went to Costco last night. This system here looked like the best bang for the buck..

http://www.costco.com/Night-Owl-8-Channel-HD-Analog-DVR-with-1TB-HDD,-4-1080p-Cameras-with-100'-Night-Vision.product.100279231.html

But I am in a rental and didn't want to run wires through the house. So I went with this wire free unit...

http://www.costco.com/Arlo-Smart-Home-HD-Wireless-IP-Security-Camera-2-Pack.product.100293681.html

Took me a minute to set up and like 10 minutes to mount them where I wanted. So far it works pretty good. Motion sensors alert my phone when there is activity and you can adjust the sensitivity.

I figure I will trial run this for like a week and if we need something more, I will just return it and upgrade.
 
Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Looking good!
 
Posted by gq916 (Member # 8540) on :
 
I've been also looking into a home surveillance system with at least 4 cameras. A wifi system would be way easier to set up but they are expensive and I haven't heard good reviews about them.

Let us know how it works out!
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gq916:
I've been also looking into a home surveillance system with at least 4 cameras. A wifi system would be way easier to set up but they are expensive and I haven't heard good reviews about them.

Let us know how it works out!
No complaints with this system as of yet. I am able to sync 3 more cameras so we have been trying to find a deal on them. They are expensive.
 
Posted by NvrGoFullRetard (Member # 1633) on :
 
I have a costco setup. Its the qsee brand and came with dvr,8 cameras all the wires for 299 delivered to my door. I then bought a $100 1080p hd tv and a $30 mount and wired everything into my internet so i can watch from anywhere.
 
Posted by MUSTTANGUY (Member # 2251) on :
 
I have used Swann for quite a few years to cover my house and shop and recently upgraded to new Swann systems with 8 camera,1080P resolution, 2TB hard drive, and smart phone viewable. Works extremely well with a fantastic picture day or night. Recently caught a guy breaking into my neighbors truck toolbox at 2 am (great evidence video) and after chasing him for 8 minutes and having PD then CHP intercept and continue chase they were able to force off the road (after throwing items out window during chase) he is still in custody with several felonies)
 
Posted by slick5.0 (Member # 7521) on :
 
The system you got are pretty good but you got to have a good upload speed and you are going to be changing out a lot of batteries amazon nvr system is your best bet but you will have to run wires
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by slick5.0:
The system you got are pretty good but you got to have a good upload speed and you are going to be changing out a lot of batteries amazon nvr system is your best bet but you will have to run wires
I'm sure I will be going through a lot of batteries. The perks of wire free I suppose. We are 2 weeks in with these and the battery life is at 50%. Luckily, it shows me that from the app. So batteries once a month or so it looks like.

Other than that, I am completely happy with this set up.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Remember most wireless systems are vulnerable. Time and time again exploits come out against wireless cameras allowing anyone to snoop on you. Having wireless cameras or a security system connected to the internet is not secure.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Since the post above, you might have heard about the big attack that in part used thousands of vulnerable internet connected security cameras ----
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2016_Dyn_cyberattack

Impeccable timing.

Closed source hardware and software is never secure. The manufactures have something to hide, that's why they hide the source, so you can never fully learn what the software does and how it operates.

Look into open source solutions if you care about liberty and security.

[ 2016-10-27, 03:09 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
What do you guys think about the "Nest" cameras?
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Nest is a Google owned company. This is the governments own internal list of information Google gives on all their users ----- https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg

No warrant or suspicion needed! The government also tapped the fiber optic lines to google's data centers.

Go ahead, please use google products. They're not back doored. You're perfectly safe and secure with google. Just go to www.wikileaks.org and browse through the emails of Cliton's top advisors, General Col Powell, and many other's GMAIL google accounts.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
I am a federal employee, the government tracks my movements and knows what I had for breakfast already and they probably know what I'll have tomorrow to before I do.
Are the Nest cameras good? They sound pretty awesome. Anyone use them?
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
That's a huge misconception. No one is exempt from the mass surveillance system that was erected behind your backs. It doesn't matter if you are a government employee or unemployed. The system is designed to collect it all. Not just from those people over there in Elsewhereistan whose name you can't pronounce. You are not exempt. You can't possibly not believe in the 4th amendment, thought you were a patriot? The claim you have nothing to hide is ridiculous. We both know that's not true. Be honest with yourself.

Using a Nest camera or any other Google product means nothing it sees or hears is private. It's all recorded. The Nest is sold by a company whose business model is surveillance of their customers.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Jesus dude, I got cameras so my girl can sleep better at night. If these things hanging off my house will keep the punks away, I am going to do it.

If the government wants to tap into them and see how my landscaping looks, enjoy. SMH. Not everything in life has to be some fucking conspiracy. You must live like Brill in Enemy of the State.

Anyways, Wildfire I heard nothing but good things about that set up.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue92:
Jesus dude, I got cameras so my girl can sleep better at night. If these things hanging off my house will keep the punks away, I am going to do it.

If the government wants to tap into them and see how my landscaping looks, enjoy. SMH. Not everything in life has to be some fucking conspiracy. You must live like Brill in Enemy of the State.

Anyways, Wildfire I heard nothing but good things about that set up.
Ok cool thanks for the info. I am thinking about getting one and setting it up.
 
Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :
 
I was debating on wireless vs wired. Ended up getting some cheap p.o.e set up on ebay zmodo. One wire to run power and video. Easy set up and came with a free viewing app. Cameras are 720p with night vision.8 cameras, 1tb hard drive,remote viewing for less then 300 bucks . Like you said they make my wife feel a little safer when she is alone,she is able to see every entrance point to our home in one click. And we can check the cameras when we are not home. I'll screenever shot some pictures in pitch black so you can see them in action.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Just out of curiosity, what kind of areas do you guys live in? I'm assuming wealthy areas with vulnerable people?
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
the benefit of cameras isnt isolated to more affluent neighborhoods.

i just installed an alarm system a few weeks ago and a 8 ch wired camera setup is next. still havent decided what to get yet as there is far too many systems out there. im leaning towards one of the higher rated amazon systems that has one wire routing. most are priced reasonably under $500.
i really like the arlo setup but hate the fact that there is no option to power it externally. having to change out batteries might suck . at the same time the wireless capability is a plus for many.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
Blue92 ------ you often make big leaps and put words in my mouth. It's not if the government wants to tap into your web cameras. They already record it all. Exactly what do you think laws like the Patriot Act allows the government to do? Your home cameras should not be connected on the internet. They should not be wireless. Otherwise they are not secure. Period. There is no such thing as a back door for the good guys. If your government can access them, then so can other governments and individual bad guys. Want proof? Look at what was given to Wikileaks about Clinton.


Wildfire532FB ---- I thought you were a patriot? Why do you desperately support Nest-Google when Nest Google lets Clinton fly around for free in their company jet, campaigning and raising money against your candidate? Google CEO's emails even boasts Google can turn out voters for Clinton. They were already caught manipulating search results to favor Clinton. Why do you insist on giving full access to all your communications, privacy and hard earned cash to an organization that does not represent your beliefs? There are alternatives. Or maybe you're not the constitution loving patriot you imagine yourself as.

[ 2016-11-08, 05:26 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Just out of curiosity, what kind of areas do you guys live in? I'm assuming wealthy areas with vulnerable people?
I live in the woods
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Wanted to bump this. No longer in a rental and need to do some more research for a wired setup.

What's out there now, guys?
 
Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
NVG for storage.

POE cameras with minimum 4K resolution

Look into hikvision.

My set up consists of 16 high res cams plus LPR and 30x zoom PTZ. Auto tract and being able to read plates of who ever come by is where it’s at. Don’t cheapen on security. It’s worth every penny. Sure it’s not all fool proof but it’s just a portion of having layered security.
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
NVG for storage.

POE cameras with minimum 4K resolution

Look into hikvision.

My set up consists of 16 high res cams plus LPR and 30x zoom PTZ. Auto tract and being able to read plates of who ever come by is where it’s at. Don’t cheapen on security. It’s worth every penny. Sure it’s not all fool proof but it’s just a portion of having layered security.
+1

Hikvision or Lorex w/ 4k and color night vision.
 
Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Just out of curiosity, what kind of areas do you guys live in? I'm assuming wealthy areas with vulnerable people?
You mean people with a lot to lose?
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sic70stang:
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Just out of curiosity, what kind of areas do you guys live in? I'm assuming wealthy areas with vulnerable people?
You mean people with a lot to lose?
Lol
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
I had a buddy who works at adt hook me up.
6 cameras
24/7 streaming
Security system
Phone notification

I thought it was overkill but being able to check in and watch my dogs or anyone drive by or walk on my property is nice.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:

Wildfire532FB ---- I thought you were a patriot? Why do you desperately support Nest-Google when Nest Google lets Clinton fly around for free in their company jet, campaigning and raising money against your candidate? Google CEO's emails even boasts Google can turn out voters for Clinton. They were already caught manipulating search results to favor Clinton. Why do you insist on giving full access to all your communications, privacy and hard earned cash to an organization that does not represent your beliefs? There are alternatives. Or maybe you're not the constitution loving patriot you imagine yourself as.
The same corrupt google was caught secretly putting in a microphone in their Nest thermostats -------- http://fortune.com/2019/02/21/privacy-group-to-ftc-divest-google-of-nest-over-hidden-mic/ https://www.pressherald.com/2019/02/21/google-nest-device-has-microphone-it-forgot-to-mention/

Why do you support crooked companies that support crooked Hillary?
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
What are your guys thoughts on a system like this?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lorex-8-channel-8-camera-indoor-outdoor-wired-4k-2tb-dvr-surveillance-system-white/6203503.p?skuId=6203503
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
All of these cameras have back doors put in by the manufacturer------ FLIR's Lorex always gets caught having big security flaws giving everyone access to your videos https://www.pcworld.com/article/3034265/hard-coded-password-exposes-up-to-46000-video-surveillance-dvrs-to-hacking.html https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/147064-18-brands-of-security-cameras-are-susceptible-to-easy-hack They don't use open source software because people will see the back doors they code in. If you install closed source code cameras, do so knowing others can and will be watching you at a time of their choosing.
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
What system would you recommend then?
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
What application are you looking for? Indoor or outdoor? Do you plan to record the footage? Do you want to remotely view your cameras when not home?
 
Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
What application are you looking for? Indoor or outdoor? Do you plan to record the footage? Do you want to remotely view your cameras when not home?
Both. Yes and yes.
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
I can tell you what to avoid. Anything that stores your video on the cloud. The cloud is a name for "someone else's computer". When videos of you in the privacy of inside your home are stored on someone else's computer, it means you don't own it. Corporations, individuals and the government necessarily have full access to it. Subscription services should be suspect. You want direct access to your cameras, not through someone else's portal which you don't own or control. A good starting point to research ------ https://opensource.com/tools/home-automation
 
Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
ring.com
 
Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
ring is the type of flawed product I was warning you about-------


https://www.digitaltrends.com/home/ring-video-doorbell-security-exploit/

https://www.idtheftcenter.org/ring-doorbell-security-flaw-is-part-of-a-bigger-problem/

https://knowtechie.com/ring-security-flaw/

https://gizmodo.com/amazons-ring-security-cameras-may-have-let-employees-sp-1831658669
 
Posted by MADMAVERICK (Member # 10959) on :
 
Alo pro 2
 




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