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Yup, I found out earlier it's crazy man especially snipers.

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I looked at a video on IG and one officer got shot with a shotgun (explicit). Looks like he having a stand off with the police in a garage. He claims to have bombs planted.,
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Damn
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
They're trying to blame guns again and we all know this is a racial issue not a gun issue. Let's not forget who's in charge right now and they still don't give a fuck about black people.




https://youtu.be/jl7Sx08JBZ0

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Posted by fiftwyz (Member # 8351) on :
 
Bound to happen!
 

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Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 

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They trying to blame the black guy lol.

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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
This country is way more divided than ever...sickening!!!

People wanted change...well they got it alright. You all thought you were voting in Jackie Robinson but got Kanye West instead. Jokes on all of us now!

This administration has brought down the black people even further as well as everything else and averaging 1 trillion a year to the national debt!!! Never hear anything about that!?!? Far more than any other president!!!

ALL LIVES MATTER stupid shitty media...ALL LIVES MATTER!!

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before Castile was killed, he told Officer Yanez that he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and had one in the car. Reynolds stated on the video that Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, "Don't move." As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Race is not the core issue. Dallas is an example of blow back. You can't invade other countries or treat a group of your own citizens unjustly and not expect blow back. Orlando, blow back. Dallas, blow back. Who is the aggressor? Who shot first? It's human nature to resist and retaliate against aggression.


 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
The police took the phone of Philando Castile's girlfriend and deleted the facebook video she posted of her boyfriend's homicide.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/08/castile_shooting_police_deletion/

Facebook tried to cover for the police and call it a technical glitch. Companies like Facebook are never on the side of the people. Facebook, google, apple and microsoft are always on the side of the state. Never forget what information these companies instantly give a copy to the government while you use their products https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg Do not support these companies

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The police took the phone of Philando Castile's girlfriend and deleted the facebook video she posted of her boyfriend's homicide.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/08/castile_shooting_police_deletion/

Facebook tried to cover for the police and call it a technical glitch. Companies like Facebook are never on the side of the people. Facebook, google, apple and microsoft are always on the side of the state. Never forget what information these companies instantly give a copy to the government while you use their products https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg Do not support these companies

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Please fall through your asshole and hang yourself.
 

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Posted by Pcsal (Member # 12897) on :
 
Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman" ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled A l-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month , we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were "White colleges" THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

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Posted by Pcsal (Member # 12897) on :
 
Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman" ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled A l-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month , we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were "White colleges" THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWDkUVEFDA&feature=youtu.be
 

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Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Perfect, Pcsal.

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Look how many whites people on their side.

https://youtu.be/YIr-B686kog
 

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Posted by hurting your feelings (Member # 13641) on :
 

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Look how many whites people on their side.

https://youtu.be/YIr-B686kog

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Government did it.

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before Castile was killed, he told Officer Yanez that he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and had one in the car. Reynolds stated on the video that Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, "Don't move." As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Government did it.

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Yes. The government did kill Castile, which caused the Dallas shooter to seek revenge. Blowback. Castile had a license to carry and informed the officer of this fact. The officer did not care to respect Castile's constitutional rights and killed him. The NRA should be doing more to back up Castile.

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before Castile was killed, he told Officer Yanez that he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and had one in the car. Reynolds stated on the video that Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, "Don't move." As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Should legally exercising your 2nd amendment rights be cause for street side police execution?

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According to the woman who was more concerned with getting her video on Facebook live and smoking blunts in the car with her 4 year old in the back seat. If you have a conceal carry why the fuck would you keep the gun on your lap while your getting pulled over by the police. It should be either holstered or the glove box. No cop comes up to the window with his gun pulled unless they have a reason to pull it. They normally will come to your window and then that's where you tell them your conceal carry and show your hands.

But we weren't able to see what happened before the snapchat video feed and the cop is still spooked and states the guy pulled a gun on him. More believable than blunt mama. Leaving your gun on your lap unholstered doesn't sound like responsible ownership.
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
NRA promotes responsible gun ownership, Castillo didn't display that.


 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Government did it.

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Yes. The government did kill Castile, which caused the Dallas shooter to seek revenge. Blowback. Castile had a license to carry and informed the officer of this fact. The officer did not care to respect Castile's constitutional rights and killed him. The NRA should be doing more to back up Castile.

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before Castile was killed, he told Officer Yanez that he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and had one in the car. Reynolds stated on the video that Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, "Don't move." As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Should legally exercising your 2nd amendment rights be cause for street side police execution?

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Government did it.

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Yes. The government did kill Castile, which caused the Dallas shooter to seek revenge. Blowback. Castile had a license to carry and informed the officer of this fact. The officer did not care to respect Castile's constitutional rights and killed him. The NRA should be doing more to back up Castile.

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before Castile was killed, he told Officer Yanez that he was licensed to carry a concealed weapon and had one in the car. Reynolds stated on the video that Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, "Don't move." As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Should legally exercising your 2nd amendment rights be cause for street side police execution?

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Officer Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, 'Don't move.' As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times.

Reynolds said that officers had failed to check Castile for a pulse or to render first aid, and instead comforted the crying officer who fired the shots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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Originally posted by 135.0:
No cop comes up to the window with his gun pulled unless they have a reason to pull it. They normally will come to your window and then that's where you tell them your conceal carry and show your hands.

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No. The government killed the cops.

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Assumed this is a joke. Be careful what you say online about cops.

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/12/after-dallas-shootings-police-arrest-people-for-criticizing-cops-on-facebook-and-twitter/

Police have been arresting people criticizing them on Facebook and twitter. Who thinks they still have a 1st amendment right? Big tech corporations like Apple, Facebook and Google are never on the side of the people. They're always on the side of the state. Never say anything negative about the state on big tech company websites. You no longer have the 1st and 4th amendment protections your 7th grade teacher told you about.

The Bush-Obama-Clinton trifecta has come against your 1st amendment - freedom of speech, 2nd amendment, right to firearms and 4th amendment, the right to privacy and not have your communications recorded or searched with out a warrant and probable cause. You guys gladly handed these rights over to Bush-Obama-Clinton as soon as they whispered the word terrorism in your ears. Don't feel bad though, you exchanged your freedom for safety. You're safe now
 

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135.0 --- I'm willing to let go of the fact you have a history of negative undertones against minorities, especially blacks.

It is agreed the facts from both sides haven't been fully disclosed. However, what has been disclosed sides strongly with the version I quoted above. Please back up your version of the story with references. Memes and youtube videos don't count as references.

It is unlikely, Castile, your fellow 2nd amendment loving free citizen with a legal license to carry, was driving around with a baby and his girlfriend in the car and a pistol on his lap.
It's unlikely he would have kept the pistol on his lap when the cop pulled him over.
It's unlikely he would have pointed the gun at the cop when pulled over for a broken tail light fix it ticket.

It is far more likely the cop was scared of black people, over reacted and freaked out when Castile reached for his wallet as the officer asked. Did you read the wikipedia link incident section?

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Officer Yanez "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, 'Don't move.' As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times.

Reynolds said that officers had failed to check Castile for a pulse or to render first aid, and instead comforted the crying officer who fired the shots. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philando_Castile#Incident

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The officer that committed the homicide was crying. Scared people cry. A lot of people, especially whites, are afraid of black people. Your personal version of the story is inconsistent with accounts referenced in the wikipedia document.

Please don't try to impugn the character of a 3rd party, Castile's girlfriend. Please don't argue a legal license to carry permit only allows carrying in a glovebox or holster.
Please no more meme pictures or youtube links. Please.


I feel I need to restate the loss of life on all sides is sad and not justified.

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
No. The government killed the cops.

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Assumed this is a joke. Be careful what you say online about cops.

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/12/after-dallas-shootings-police-arrest-people-for-criticizing-cops-on-facebook-and-twitter/

Police have been arresting people criticizing them on Facebook and twitter. Who thinks they still have a 1st amendment right? Big tech corporations like Apple, Facebook and Google are never on the side of the people. They're always on the side of the state. Never say anything negative about the state on big tech company websites. You no longer have the 1st and 4th amendment protections your 7th grade teacher told you about.

The Bush-Obama-Clinton trifecta has come against your 1st amendment - freedom of speech, 2nd amendment, right to firearms and 4th amendment, the right to privacy and not have your communications recorded or searched with out a warrant and probable cause. You guys gladly handed these rights over to Bush-Obama-Clinton as soon as they whispered the word terrorism in your ears. Don't feel bad though, you exchanged your freedom for safety. You're safe now

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The A pillar is the metal that connects your roof to the body at your windshield. The B pillar connects the roof to the body behind the passenger/driver window.

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No cop comes up to the window with his gun pulled unless they have a reason to pull it.

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No cop comes up to the window with his gun pulled unless they have a reason to pull it.

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No cop comes up to the window with his gun pulled unless they have a reason to pull it.

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Ha that's some bullshit right there!

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When did you ever have a cop come up on your window with gun pulled?

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Ha that's some bullshit right there!

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When did you ever have a cop come up on your window with gun pulled?

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Twice. Second time I almost got lit up for not saying I was reaching for my wallet even tho he asked for my license. You have no clue the harassment I've had by cops in my life but yet somehow out of all the harassment I never got booked or cited for them. So what does that tell you?

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Ha that's some bullshit right there!

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When did you ever have a cop come up on your window with gun pulled?

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Twice. Second time I almost got lit up for not saying I was reaching for my wallet even tho he asked for my license. You have no clue the harassment I've had by cops in my life but yet somehow out of all the harassment I never got booked or cited for them. So what does that tell you?

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I've been pulled over hella times and NEVER had a cop pull a gun on me. When was the second time? Cops got to think of their safety first, if you never got cited or shot then no harm no foul right?

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"I hate that beaner,but I think the nig is worse."

"We got two blacks at my boys school and they are brother and sister! There cause dad works for the school district and I am watching them like hawks."

"They're all drug dealers in the TL,"

"Indian ppl are disgusting,"

"Burn down walgreens and kill the bums,"

In response to a text asking "Do you celebrate quanza at your school?" SFPD Officer Furminger wrote- "Yeah we burn the cross on the field! Then we celebrate Whitemas."

"Its worth every penny to live here [Walnut Creek] away from the savages."

"The buffalo soldier was why the Indians Wouldnt shoot the niggers that found for the confederate They thought they were sacred buffalo and not human."

"I hate to tell you this but my wife friend is over with their kids and her husband is black! If is an Attorney but should I be worried?" Police officer Furminger's friend, also an SFPD officer, responded- "Get ur pocket gun. Keep it available in case the monkey returns to his roots. Its not against the law to put an animal down." Police Officer Furminger responded, "Well said!"

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Ok so what's your solution? I hear the complaint it what should be done?

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Ok so what's your solution? I hear the complaint it what should be done?

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The problem with race and what seems to have happened to Philando Castile is nothing new. Lets go back to the summer of 1955. The story of Emmett Till, a 14 year old boy, African American teenager. From Chicago. His mom Mamie wanted Emmett to get out of the city for the summer so she sends Emmett to the South to be with his aunt and uncle. One night Emmett is ripped out of bed by a white mob and he is tortured, he is beaten and ends up in the river.

You know Emmett Till was a stutterer. His mother taught him when ever you stutter, stop and whistle, and it will help you.

They said Emmett "wolf whistled" at a white woman. And for that he was killed. When his body was dredged up and sent back to Chicago, his mother Mamie did something incredibly courageous. She said she wanted the casket open in the wake for the funeral! She wanted the world to see the ravages of racism. The brutality of bigotry. Thousands streamed by Emmett's casket and saw. Jet Magazine and other black publications took photographs of Emmett's disfigured, mutilated head. And they were actually published! They were seared into the history and conciseness of this country.

Take a look at the boy for yourself if you can stomach it ----
http://www.voice-online.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/455/Emmett_Till.jpg -------- https://ecarson.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/emmett-till-3.png

Mamie Till had an important lesson to teach modern Americans of today. Share the pictures. Share the videos!


Why is it the poor and people of color are punished for committing crimes, many of which are results of the conditions that they are born into and not because some evil streak is running through America's economically disadvantaged communities. We never give poor folks in this country that are busted on a drug possession or committing a petty robbery, they almost never get a break. But these too big to fail corporations and crooked politicians like Hillary Clinton are let off the hook nonstop all the time. Second, third, fourth chances! Who went to jail over Hurricane Katrina? What wealthy banker went to jail over the implosion of the economy in 2007/2008? Who went to jail over these false wars that killed millions of poor innocent people? If we really cared in this country about threats to our security, we'd be looking at our environment, how we treat poor people in this country, we'd be looking at how we treat working people in this country. Surveillance and war are not the answer.


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I don't think what happened in 1955 is relevant at all. I don't think it should be forgotten but it's a moot point. Why don't you take it further back to the 1800's and slavery and bring that up while you're at it. In fact, let's go back even further when the people of Africa sold there own people off to be slaves...FOR MONEY!

All these people of color are the only victims it seems. This kind of stuff happens all the time to poor white trash too but isn't covered at all. Been happening for decades but you would never know it by the media since it only shows blacks. Never seems to happen to Mexicans but maybe once in awhile perhaps but I don't see it covered. I guess I just miss the news whenever that happens I guess.

Let me ask you this. How would you like to have this black family over for dinner sometime? No!? Because there black I guess. No, because they act like idiots and drink n drive as well as smoke weed in front of kids and are uneducated trash that you wouldn't want to be associated with perhaps??

Black has nothing to do with it...they are ghetto trash that only ghetto trash can see as an equal. If whites acted the same way as this group, I'd say exactly the same thing...this is not a race thing, it's a people trash thing.

How come nice respectable black people don't seem to have the same problem and being "targeted" by police? Nicely dressed, normal non ghetto black people don't seem to be getting shot for "no reason"?

We never seem to see on video what led up these shootings...only the few seconds before the shooting? That's odd don't you think? No wait, I'm just a tinfoil wearing conspiracy nut I guess; oh well.

This media agenda is tearing this country apart and I sure hope you people can decipher truth from fiction.

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Give that man a cigar! Spot on!
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/fresno-police-release-body-camera-footage-of-fatal-dylan-noble-shooting/2016/07/14/d1cc3aec-499f-11e6-8dac-0c6e4accc5b1_video.html

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LMAFAO!!

Five women on a totally liberal California show broadacasted in the middle of the day when the only people watching it are the people who don't work, when they should be at work. Well done!!

Did you here the dumb white bitch say she could move right into any community (including black) and she'd be alright. Those pathetic women just love to say something then hear the audience clap and clap.

Whoopee said if you can't see all the people of all colors marching for a good reason then you're the problem. What a joke!!!

OP, did you even comprehend what you were seeing in this video? Watch it a couple more times and also see what type of black people seem to be getting shot by police. It's not the ones in suit and ties or did those type of black people "sell out" to the man?

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Anyone agree with the president that this is a hate crime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQSoaSnTjY&feature=share
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
135.0 ---- Reread my post. The solution is there, but you have to think about it. The problem today isn't just police quick to kill citizens, like Philando Castile from MN or Dylan Noble from Fresno that got pulled over for doing a little burn out in his V8 truck. The government is increasingly quick to use violence against not only other countries, but also against its citizens. Did you hear the TSA just beat a 19 year old girl bloody? She is blind in one eye, partly deaf, paralyzed and was on her way for brain tumor treatment!

Laws are not applied equally. Laws instead are used as tools for the rich and powerful to exert their will on the not so rich and not so powerful. Bankers can steal until the economy collapses. Lying crooked politicians can do what ever they want and not have laws apply to them. Generals can torture innocent people and invade innocent countries. The NSA and FBI can bypass the constitution and have access to all of your communications.

Now you ask what's the solution to violence government brings against its own citizens? History shows it's inevitable for any country engaged in an endless War posture, that the war mentality, war tactics and war weaponry will be imported to its homeland to be used against its citizens.


9cobra7 ----- you missed the point of the 1955 story. The lesson Mamie Till wanted to teach modern Americans of today was to share the pictures. Share the videos. This isn't ancient history. Today's children see what happened to Philando Castile from MN. Their parents saw what happened to Rodney King. Their grandparents saw what happened to Emmett Till. For too long and too many times violence has been introduced into the black community by outsiders. Keep reading to understand why their anger is legitimate.

You are right, the color of skin has nothing to do with it. You'll get the same results if you pick people of any color skin, kidnap them, ship them over like sardines. Break up their families. Rape their women and enslave their men to do free labor for you. Then let them go "free" as long as they have their papers, have laws apply differently to them. Not let them vote, put them in the back of the bus, not let them marry outside their race, keep them out of schools and even give them "special" drinking fountains. Then within the length of a human's lifetime, wonder why it's taking this group so long to assimilate into society. Shit, look at what has been done to these poor people in your grandparents lifetime alone. This isn't ancient history.

The reasons you wouldn't invite Philando Castile to dinner are the results of the conditions that he was born into and not because some evil "ghetto trash" streak is running through America's economically disadvantaged communities like many American's on both the right and left secretly believe. How do you know baby Philando didn't see people's heads blown off as a young child? How do you know baby Philando wasn't high all the time from his mother's 2nd hand weed smoke? How do you know little Philando didn't go to bed cold and hungry? Now 18 years later you wonder why Philando isn't good at arithmetic and English? Why Philando has no college education? Why Philando isn't a productive member of this society? You can't expect a rose to grow from the concrete.

Reflect on your life today compared to the other 7 billion people on Earth and realize just how damn lucky you are. Be thankful for the sacrifices made and luck your family had to get you this far, because billions lost out on the chance to be born in your shoes. It's not their fault. They just weren't lucky.

[ 2016-07-15, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Martina you gotta be joking, you've been indoctrinated into thinking everything about our society is bad because of dark times in history. It's the same system that has given all people rights as well, there is still slavery in the world now and injustice but remember our system is the best in the world to date. May not be perfect but you can't say that USA isn't the best nation otherwise you should consider a place you think is better and move there, that's what I did and that's why I'm here now.

Slavery and the civil rights movement has not been that long ago, attitudes take time to change along with society. But we're trying and each generation is doing better than the last with race relations. The complainers will always be out there to cry foul and we should take notice when warranted but the Fresno dude has body can footage proving that cops really had no other choice. Suicide by cop I'd rather see than a dead cop which that could have gone the other way. Saying cops shouldn't pull him over just cause he was doing donuts. Doing donuts is illegal and you can hurt others and yourself so that's why a cop will pull you over, duh. But complain all you want, I can't figure out what your solution is but go ahead and say it so we can all agree or continue to believe your idiotic trash. As quick as your willing to say slaves were stolen and mistreated etc, get your history straight before coming up with a slanted analysis because it is history and not everybody's reality anymore. Many people from all races are to blame for slavery and many people on both sides helped free slaves and died to correct the injustices of slavery and continue to fight for oppressed people and it's not just a small portion of every race in our country. We built this shit together and only together we can make this country great again.
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
I'm not lucky, we made a conscientious decision to immigrate to this country legally because this is the best country in the world. If you don't belive that because of history your not living in the present.
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
More videos you should watch but won't

https://youtu.be/RX1GhVio4no
 

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Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
Martinna-

Quick story for you which takes place early 1990's. I transferred from a mostly white high school to very mixed race high school. This is where I learned rude awakenings and quick lessons on race which totally caught me off guard and changed me to this day.

I left a wallet in my back pack and left the room for a brief period of time and came back to get something out of my back pack. Wallet is gone! The black guy who was next to me when this happened was a known individual who was not to be trusted. Immediately I suspected him and saw the outline of the wallet in his front pocket. He could sense I noticed what was going on and tried to leave the classroom when I confronted him.

First I asked if "he'd seen my wallet" since it was just there a minute ago? He said "no". It escalated quickly and I went to go forcefully take it back and he said "you just accusing me cuz' I'm black mofo"!

Right away all heads turned on me like I'm the bad guy amongst all the kids and the teacher. I said "no its because I can see the wallet right there in your front pocket" yelling back and went to reach for it again. He pushed me away and again said it was only "because he's black" again.

Teacher told me to go down to the principle's office and talk to him meanwhile I knew the minute I left the class he would steal my money and dump the wallet. This is exactly what happened and the wallet was found at the end of class tucked into a corner with the money missing by a fellow classmate.

That day would never be the same because I knew the race card was pulled on me and there was nothing I could do. If I punched the thug out I lose because he had gang ties and risked my health/life possibly, and I lost by the alternate which I had to go through.

I don't see any alternatives to this problem especially with what you've talked about and the media's promotion of hatred in this country. You talk of all these problems with no solutions?

One solution is don't lie about how the police only target "innocent" black people because many of these "innocent" black people aren't! They use the race card quite often and I can give you a couple more examples of people we've fired for being lousy employees but they say it's because they're black. Quite convenient of a reason I'd say.

What you didn't see is the escalation that led up to the Castille shooting. Perhaps Castille right away told the officer you only pulled me over because we're black and then quickly escalated. We'll never know until we get a full length video of a shooting of a black person, but I don't think that will ever happen. You'll only see that white officers only shoot black people for absolutely no apparent reason I guess?????

You want to know the lesson I learned??? I have to be very very VERY careful when any person of color is around me. Anything I say can be taken out of context and used against me. You can call it walking on egg shells, tip toeing, politically correct, scared, nervous or anything but I will never forget that day. Actually a sad story now that I put it out on a keyboard for the first time.
 

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Posted by Secnd2nun64 (Member # 1431) on :
 
You sir, got my vote for President!

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Originally posted by Pcsal:
Proud To Be White

Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey," "Whitey," "Caveman" ... and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled A l-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET. If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month , we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that?

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships you know we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were "White colleges" THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud. But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
9cobra7 ------- thank you for sharing your story. There is no excuse for what your classmate did to you as a child. Yes it is true a black boy committed what amounts to petty theft against you. Crimes like this happen every day. Wallets. Laptops. Smartphones. Why isn't the same hate applied towards Jews for example?

The wealthy Jewish bankers that run Goldman Sachs crashed the USA economy into the ground. This personally cost you thousands. It cost every American thousands of dollars. Your children will have to pay for it if you don't pay it off. Obama had to print globs of money and run USA into massive debt to cover for it. Not a single Jewish banker went to jail. Not a single person from America's economically disadvantaged communities could have stolen as much money from you as a single Jewish banker did during the 2007 economic crash. Why is rage applied unequally to blacks? Measured in dollars, the theft blacks commit as a race is miniature compared to the theft from Jewish bankers and businessmen.

What are the banker's excuse? One personal jet isn't enough? They needed a few more vacation mansions around the world? They never went to sleep hungry. They weren't high off their parent's marijuana smoke as a child. They weren't perceived by society to be thieves until proven otherwise. The poor and people of color are punished for committing crimes, many of which are results of the conditions that they are born into and not because some evil streak is running through America's economically disadvantaged communities. They almost never get a break for committing petty crimes. But these too big to fail corporations and crooked politicians like Hillary Clinton are let off the hook nonstop all the time. Second, third, fourth chances! What politician or official went to jail over leaking state secrets? What wealthy banker went to jail over the implosion of the economy in 2007? Who went to jail over these false wars and invasions killed millions of poor innocent people?

It's Justice and equality for some. Now you wonder why some people are mad.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
There was a new cop shooter. Anyone notice the folks that shot the police were from in the armed services? America recruited men from its economically disadvantaged communities. Put a gun in these people's hands. Taught them how to shoot people. Then shipped them to the middle east.

Now they come back to America and solve their grievances with violence.

History shows it's inevitable for any country engaged in an endless War posture, that the war mentality, war tactics and war weaponry will be imported to its homeland to be used against its citizens.

[ 2016-07-19, 01:43 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Jewish bankers, why they got to all be Jewish? Last time I checked they didn't prosecute people because everybody was involved to the bankers, to the customers that took the loans when they knew they couldn't pay, to the appraisers and real estate agents and title companies.

You know the democrats wanted to push for more home ownership so the banks allowed for Stated income loans with no down payments and made lending very easy to purchase homes until the real estate bubble hit. Then the same people who might I add, was never forced into taking these loans they couldn't afford started walking away from the homes just because the equity they had vanished. Some people truly couldn't pay but id say a majority of the people strategically defaulted which is your right as a citizen to do. None of those people went to jail either. In fact some people were able to avoid YEARS of mortgage free housing to eventually complain that the banks stole their homes. Nobody steals your house unless you don't make your payments last time I checked. Once again the complainers took advantage of the situation while the silent majority continued to pay their loans with absolutely no relief. So if you think your bigoted Jewish banker theory holds up, I can see why your BLM cop killer attitude stinks up the board and the very fabric of society today.
 

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Posted by sic70stang (Member # 4347) on :
 
for the record i actually benefited from the crash of 08. saved me hundreds of thousands actually
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
135.0 -------

Don't play your slight of hand games with me. You're not as sly as you think. I wasn't speaking up against any race. Don't twist my post. 9cobra7 said he distrusts blacks because they stole money from him as a child. I showed if the hate is truly due to money theft, it can be argued Jews have stolen far more money from him. Yet the vitriol and hate is only expressed towards the minor theft from blacks.

Look in the mirror before pointing the bigot finger at anyone else. You're not fooling anyone else.
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Youre an antisemite, good to know.
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 

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for the record i actually benefited from the crash of 08. saved me hundreds of thousands actually

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135.0 -------

Don't play your slight of hand games with me. You're not as sly as you think. I wasn't speaking up against any race. Don't twist my post. 9cobra7 said he distrusts blacks because they stole money from him as a child. I showed if the hate is truly due to money theft, it can be argued Jews have stolen far more money from him. Yet the vitriol and hate is only expressed towards the minor theft from blacks.

Look in the mirror before pointing the bigot finger at anyone else. You're not fooling anyone else.

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135.0 -------

Don't play your slight of hand games with me. You're not as sly as you think. I wasn't speaking up against any race. Don't twist my post. 9cobra7 said he distrusts blacks because they stole money from him as a child. I showed if the hate is truly due to money theft, it can be argued Jews have stolen far more money from him. Yet the vitriol and hate is only expressed towards the minor theft from blacks.

Look in the mirror before pointing the bigot finger at anyone else. You're not fooling anyone else.

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Martinna-

Speaking of twisting words around, I never said I distrust black people. I told a story but that doesn't mean you interpreted it correctly, because you didn't; you missed the point.

Anyone can steal from you physically and they can also do it mentally. This black person stole from me but the point of the story was he knew he was backed into a corner and couldn't get out of it. The only thing he could pull out if his thug like bag of tricks was the race card...and it worked.

Like I said before, I had to be extremely careful from that day on because it is something that can't be defended...therefore I now am aware of how it can be used against me with little defense, since I'm white. And you know this...only whites can be considered racists (look around if you don't believe me).

Again, I'm pissed that the Africans sold there own people to create this mess that will never go away. Ironic that a black president has made this whole race thing much worse than ever. Every one of these poor innocent black people that get shot everyday for no apparent reason by cops. No reason at all, just minding there own business and cops just seem to shoot them...huh???? I'm so baffled, aren't you?

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Van Jones sounds like he's got a lot of good points to make and more conversations like this may get us closer to the dream of our founding fathers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO-0i6jWe1U
 

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Watch what you say...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7643/louisiana-police-chief-fired-after-posting-obama-amanda-prestigiacomo
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
9cobra7 ---- point taken. But can't the Jewish bankers that run Goldman Sachs also claim antisemitism and cite the historic poor treatment of Jewish bankers by Germany leading up to WWII or even going back to their times as slaves in Egypt? I'm pointing out if financial loss or protected class is what bothers you about a race, your anger is misdirected towards blacks, because Jews have cost you far more money and are a far more protected class than blacks. Soul search, at its roots, financial lost or protected class status are not the root of your frustration. It's probably something else?


It is fair to point out African's did not capture their own people for no cause. Your version omits key facts. It was the whites that sailed to their shores and offered African's treasures in exchange for assistance to enslave their fellow humans. This is a common tactic in most wars. Invade a country and morally corrupt one subgroup against another with treasures. I know you're not trying to justify slavery as being okay if it's done within the same skin color. I know you're not trying to say slavery in USA was the African's fault for taking the American's money to help capture slaves.


The problem is not "poor innocent black people that get shot everyday for no apparent reason by cops" as you said. The problem is the unequal application of law. If Philando Clinton was pulled over for a burned tail light bulb, would he have been shot? No. Of course not. You get treated differently if your last name is Clinton. Laws and courtesies apply differently to a Philando Castile than they do to a Philando Clinton. This is the inequality people are frustrated about. Equality and justice, for some.

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
If you live in Northern California, be happy a lying crooked San Mateo cop is taken off the streets. "charges include kidnapping with intent to commit rape, rape, sexual penetration and oral copulation under color of authority, sexual battery, criminal threats, and forcible sex offenses." I hope 9cobra7 doesn't try to say his victims were "poor innocent women that get molested everyday for no apparent reason by cops". It's offensive.


Tying to a related issue, why is it after every attack people claim the Muslim community knew who the attackers were, but never said anything. Why doesn't anyone say the San Mateo cops in his precinct knew who the racists or rapists officers were but never said anything? If Muslim community knew, then the cops in his precinct knew. If the attacker kept his mouth shut, then so did the rapist cop. If you want equality and justice for all, you can't go around collectively punishing a group for lone acts of an individual. Equality is equality, whether you're Muslim or a cop.

If you don't want equality and justice for all, have the balls to come out and say it.

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Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :
 
I'm hurt whenever anybody dies wrongfully by the hands of a bad cop and I also am hurt whenever a cop gets wrongfully killed by an angry BLM sympathizer. So let's come up with solutions to fix it so we have less of each and we have respect for the law which requires ALL citizens to get equal treatment.

I've always said body cams should be on every cop, they are public servants and I demand to be able to capture the actions they take to 1: Keep the good cops on payroll 2: Train new cops by showing them what other cops have done in the past to diffuse situations.

I've heard Van Jones propose tougher standards of vetting new cops. I'm all for that as well, though i do believe CA standards are pretty high but there should be a better way universally because some areas of the country are not quite on top of this as we can see.

In order for our society to work we have to give ALL people the trust and belief that they will be treated as equals in the eye of the law, we don't have that now with so many sympathizers of the radicals killing cops now. But also keep in mind, our country is the only country living with all walks of life. What we are doing here has never been done before, yet we need to work together to make the original founding father's dream more of our reality. Going back in time to jew this and slave owners that only opens up new wounds as we live in the now and it's our jobs to figure this out for our kids.

What solutions do you propose Martinna?
 

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Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Martinna:
[QB] If you live in Northern California, be happy a lying crooked San Mateo cop is taken off the streets. "charges include kidnapping with intent to commit rape, rape, sexual penetration and oral copulation under color of authority, sexual battery, criminal threats, and forcible sex offenses." I hope 9cobra7 doesn't try to say his victims were "poor innocent women that get molested everyday for no apparent reason by cops". It's offensive.

Haha...come on now, I'm starting to lose some respect for you dear Martinna. I haven't even clicked on your link and won't right now...one tragedy at a time. There is good and bad people out there, and yes it includes some police. This one sounds bad and should be dealt with however the FACTS play out.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
It was the collective punishment point I was trying to make. I only used you as a changeover. Nothing personal.
 

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Posted by Martinna (Member # 12493) on :
 
You guys see the dash cam video of the cop unloading his pistol into Philando Castile's body? --------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibwonleqPTw

That's all it takes for you to get shot up. Burned brake light and informing the cop you have a weapon on you as required by law when pulled over.

the video the passenger took seconds after -------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGokQnTFHyM


This is the crooked cop Jeronimo Yanez that pulled the trigger.



That's a Police Lives Matter bracelet on his right hand. Philando Castile's bloodied insurance card still in his pocket.

American justice being served.


Don't watch the videos if you can't handle blood.
 

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