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Posted by 5.0_707 (Member # 5893) on :

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

WTF, This is the only link i can find about it. No other news site is reporting. RIP

Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :

My GF just screenshot the page to me, but the link doesn't work and there's nothing anywhere else...

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Yeah link doesn't work, its a hoax.

Posted by 5.0_707 (Member # 5893) on :

Might be a hoax. No other news source has confirmed.

Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :

Link works now, and it has hit Jalopnik but neither are reliable.

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

Says its legit on Wikipedia...if this is true wow [Frown]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Walker

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

Yes this is legit..pics and all..so sad..had a passenger too,car burst into flames..

*EDIT* still all reports from TMZ but looks legit..

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1533786

[ 2013-11-30, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]

Posted by 1FAST93NOTCH (Member # 10722) on :

Stupid Typhoon, it's all your fault.

RiP Paul Walker

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

http://en.mediamass.net/people/paul-walker/deathhoax.html

Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :

Damn bro that's actually kinda sad. RIP to Paul Walker tragic loss for the die hards like myself

Posted by 5.0_707 (Member # 5893) on :

Seeing it on other news sites now but they all are citing TMZ as their source.

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

my hoax website is saying he is dead now.

Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
my hoax website is saying he is dead now.

You run a website?!

Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :

Abc Santa Clarita local news confirms such accident in Valencia but names not released

Posted by 9165pt0 (Member # 7625) on :

damn sad rip, hopefully not true. but so far, looks as it maybe.

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Arch:

quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
my hoax website is saying he is dead now.
You run a website?!

no the website i posted earlier that said it is/was a hoax.

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
tragic loss for the die hards like myself

Die hard fan [Confused]

explain lol..

Posted by Anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :

That sucks.RIP

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

I thought this was fake. Rip

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

Seems he was passenger in a friends porsche GT. lame [Frown]

Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :

Damn [Frown]

RIP

Posted by swedensky (Member # 12185) on :

Confirmed. Very unfortunate.

Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :

He ran 7th st.

Posted by Venomousnotch (Member # 8695) on :

Race In Paradise Paul Walker.... [Frown]

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Yep he's Dead. RIP

Posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R (Member # 5400) on :

Sad news. The story so far is that it was "HIS" Porsche but a friend was driving! That really sucks, even though the movies are lame, he was still a car guy and loved cars as much as we do!! RIP brother

Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :

rip

Posted by SLOW95GTS (Member # 10365) on :

RIP...

Posted by POWERED BY FORD (Member # 9204) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:

quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
tragic loss for the die hards like myself
Die hard fan explain lol..

Lol!

RIP Paul walker

Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :

http://m.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/paul-walker-dead-at-40-fast-and-the-furious-actor-dies-in-car-accident-report-20133011

RIP [Frown]

Posted by COBRA50 (Member # 11614) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Venomousnotch:
Race In Paradise Paul Walker....

Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :

Fawk.... He still owes me a 10 second ride.

Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :

RIP that's actually pretty fn sad man just like James Dean car guy died too young in a vehicle. He was always doing charity work and doing car events. Like his movies or not he was a car guy , race your Skyline in heaven man!

[ 2013-11-30, 09:12 PM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

Damn, R.I.P. Paul.

Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :

quote:
Originally posted by *BlownMach1*- TRMYN8R:
Sad news. The story so far is that it was "HIS" Porsche but a friend was driving! That really sucks, even though the movies are lame, he was still a car guy and loved cars as much as we do!! RIP brother

Yea, he didn't write those shitty scripts. Anybody on this forum would of said "you will pay me how much to bull shit about this gay Honda? I'm in!"

RIP

Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :

RIP...

Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :

So sad R.I.P

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

R.I.P Paul Walker.

Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :

RIP. Although I didnt really like the FNF movies he was a car guy and is gone way to soon.

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
He ran 7th st.

Ok that was somewhat funny [Cool]

Green eclipse right?

Posted by 1sickGT (Member # 9276) on :

Damn RIP [Frown]

Posted by POWERED BY FORD (Member # 9204) on :

So I guess the driver was roger rodas a former race car driver

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

Last pic of him...

[ 2013-11-30, 11:05 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]

Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :

That hella sucks balls. He seems like a cool dude. And always enjoy all his movies. R.I.P

Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :

At of all the Porsche he died in the best one [patriot]

Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :

very sad indeed... way to young to die.. this should be a lesson or warning for us to take it easy on the street and be safe.

Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :

I could only imagine how fast they were going in a car like that to get a result like that and how tempting it must be when you own one. Public street along with his buddy who was a pro race car driver....RIP to both of them, but it just tells you time and time again, take it to a close circuit track ...RIP

Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :

damn, judging by where that tarp is covering in the other photos, it looks an arm in the air and the body of course..

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world. [patriot]

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.

If you were there...what exactly would you have done? Take your shirt off to put out the flames? Dive in to rescue them? I am confused.

Posted by crazyhorse (Member # 5662) on :

Check out the cars he and his friend Roger Rodas collected and housed in the shop near where they wrecked, tons of saleen foxbodies. http://youtu.be/U189SwhPXKI

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.
If you were there...what exactly would you have done? Take your shirt off to put out the flames? Dive in to rescue them? I am confused.

Sure as fuck wouldn't be videoing people burning to death. But hey if it can get you some likes or upvotes, I guess it's ok in your book.

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.
If you were there...what exactly would you have done? Take your shirt off to put out the flames? Dive in to rescue them? I am confused.
Sure as fuck wouldn't be videoing people burning to death. But hey if it can get you some likes or upvotes, I guess it's ok in your book.

ok...recording burning people...is morbid. But at the same time. People would want to know what happened. Documentation is necessary. The same as recording WAR?!

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.

Honest truth is most regular people are so passive they'd rather call 911 or snap a pic for their Instagram or Facebook with their dumb ass smart phones. Nobody's got any sense to go and run for a fire extinguisher which EVERY business is required to have on its premises.

It takes a couple of minutes for a car fire to start getting out of hand and the bystanders probably sat there and watched it ignite and then get bigger and bigger, shit don't explode like they do in the movies. There had to have been someone who could have grabbed an extinguisher somewhere close by, so fuck those people who let these two sit and cook.

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

Well, there is some common sense. Good insight.

Posted by autumnstang97 (Member # 6111) on :

Damn that's a trip! RIP Paul!

[Frown]

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.
Honest truth is most regular people are so passive they'd rather call 911 or snap a pic for their Instagram or Facebook with their dumb ass smart phones. Nobody's got any sense to go and run for a fire extinguisher which EVERY business is required to have on its premises.

It takes a couple of minutes for a car fire to start getting out of hand and the bystanders probably sat there and watched it ignite and then get bigger and bigger, shit don't explode like they do in the movies. There had to have been someone who could have grabbed an extinguisher somewhere close by, so fuck those people who let these two sit and cook.

I thought they said it exploded, if that's the case there would have been nothing anyone could have done but i agree most people would rather take pics. As a first responder i deal with that all the time.

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

Even though the guy driving was a former race car driver, driving a MR vehicle is much trickier than FR vehicle. Saw this info on how to get out if a slide on a MR car.

*edited.
Many people are asking me what to do in a slide, drift situation in a MR car check the bottom and thanks for the gold.
The CGT is RMR or Rear Mid-engine/ Rear-wheel drive and these types of cars are different/harder to drive fast than most cars.
If you throw an object with the weight in the front forward, the object will tend to want to follow the weight. In the case of a midengined car, a lot of the weight is behind the driver. Like throwing a carpenter's hammer with the head in the back, one can observe it rotate in mid-flight.
In a front engined car, when you go around a corner, the front of the car will want to stay in front. In fact, it will resist turning, so that means the car tends to "understeer" which means it turns less than you want. If you go into a corner too hot, you increase the understeer. That is not good, because you can run off the road with the front of the car. But it is somewhat controllable and you can slow the car down in the turn if you are too fast.
The physics of cars is that if you go into a corner too hot in a front engined car and hit the brakes, you slow down and actually can transfer grip to the front tires, since the car experiences more weight shift. You unweight the rear tires, so you can increase oversteer, which may reduce the understeer. In any case, if you wreck, you will probably do so nose first. But you can handle things by slowing the car down with brakes.
This is why most production cars are understeer biased. It's safer for the general public. Front engined cars are probably safer also for people who are not skilled also.
Now here is the difference in a midengined car. The weight is behind you. And it always wants to be in front. There are some good things in physics about the weight being behind you in racing. The ability of the car to rotate. Weight over the driving wheels. Launching. Weight transfer under braking. All better.
The first thing to understand is what we mean when we consider the ability of a tire to maintain traction with the road surface. To keep this under 1000+ words, I will just say that it's very important, and when you exceed the ability of the tires, you lose control. Many things come into play that determine what the ability of your tires are. These things may be:
Speed or g-forces. Sideways forces take their toll. Weight pressing down on the tires. If you unweight the tire, it will lose grip. Road and stickiness. Ice of course is bad, so is a patch of wet or some gravel, or even a small bump that upsets the weight balance.
The main trick with some of those things is to not get too close to your limits of adhesion, because none of us are superhuman and can forsee everything possible ahead of us on the road. You can play with the limits where it is safe to do so. But a public road is not the place.
However, what typically happens is this. Driver goes into turn near the limits of the tires ability. We call that driving near 10/10ths. Most non-skilled drivers can't feel the difference between 8/10ths and 11/10ths.
Something happens. That patch of wet. Something in the road. Evasive maneuver. A squirrel. Something. Or maybe just realizing you are going into the turn too hot. Probably the most common reason.
You can do certain things BEFORE the turn. Remember, the mass behind you wants to go straight in front of you. If you are in a straight line, that is not a bad thing. If you are in a straight line, hit the brakes hard. But in the turn....now you have an issue.
The normal driver reaction is to panic. And panic is not good. If you abruptly lift on the throttle, jerk the steering wheel, or worse, slam on your brakes (which most people do).... you cause some things to happen. You transfer weight to the front of the car so now the front increases it's grip, but the rear loses grip. And the rear wants to lead. The rear end will start a very bad oversteer where the car starts to spin. Even if you can catch it, often the correction will induce a huge spin in the opposite direction.
And if you are spinning, you have almost no control. You will have no idea where you will end up. You can spin into things or opposing traffic.
The solution for this is to understand and learn car control. One of the best (safe) places to learn car control and what 10/10ths is, is a local autocross. Here you can spin out over and over. And many people do. Even on a safe racing track, it's not always safe to spin out and go off the track.
Famous racing quote: "Understeer is when the front of the car hits the wall. Oversteer is when you hit with the back."
In a slide, When in doubt, both feet out!
In a small slide, stay off the brake, breathe off the gas, correct the drift.
In a spin, both feet in! (this means clutch and brake)
In a big rotation, when you cannot correct it, lock the brakes to keep a predictable path and slow as fast as possible push in the clutch to keep the engine from stalling or spinning backward

Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :

Rip. Sucks he was the passenger! Never had a chance

Posted by 0089GT (Member # 9996) on :

hey wildfire given your experience fighting fires, when the crash happened do you think a fire extinguisher would have helped spare the lives of the two people in the car?

also guys do you think it exploded because it was heavily modded?

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 0089GT:
hey wildfire given your experience fighting fires, when the crash happened do you think a fire extinguisher would have helped spare the lives of the two people in the car?

also guys do you think it exploded because it was heavily modded?

Where is the gas tank? What caused it to ignite?

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

http://www.world-challenge.com/drivers/bio.php?name=Roger%20Rodas

ROGER WAS A CURRENT RACE CAR DRIVER. HE DROVE A MUSTANG!!!!!

[ 2013-12-01, 12:43 PM: Message edited by: 75 chevy ]

Posted by WIKD 281 (Member # 40) on :

Spent the night last night visiting family in Valencia. About 2 miles down the road from the crash sight. As we arrived at our hotel I heard a bunch of emergency vehicles flying by. I told the bellman.....must be something crazy going on....didn't find out it was Paul until the his morning.
Just left the crash site....a sombering experience.
Rip Paul walker. You will be missed.

Posted by WIKD 281 (Member # 40) on :

135.O
thanks for that write up!
Very informative [patriot]

Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.
If you were there...what exactly would you have done? Take your shirt off to put out the flames? Dive in to rescue them? I am confused.

I work in fire protection, and every single one of my vehicles has a fire extinguisher in arms reach, at all time. definitely could've made the attempt to rescue him, instead of making a video of it.

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

good to know...where do you purchase fire extinguishers? I know myself and the majority of my friends don't have one.

Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.

The people who was recording thought it would explode, they watch to much movies

Posted by Stangn5oh (Member # 10875) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
Pisses me off. Everyone was taken video and walking around. Yet not 1 fuck was given to dead. No one tried to help, just walked around as people burned to death. That is what is wrong with the world.
If you were there...what exactly would you have done? Take your shirt off to put out the flames? Dive in to rescue them? I am confused.

Lol thats what i did..at a car meet

Posted by dean-93 (Member # 9401) on :

quote:
Originally posted by crazyhorse:
Check out the cars he and his friend Roger Rodas collected and housed in the shop near where they wrecked, tons of saleen foxbodies. http://youtu.be/U189SwhPXKI

damn ,he was a real car guy to

that sucks rip

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

The crash scene...

http://youtu.be/5R976MdhNhg

Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:
The crash scene...

http://youtu.be/5R976MdhNhg

looks like it was too late to save anyone's life.

Why did the car explode in the first place? Cars are made to save the occupants in a collision.

Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 0089GT:
hey wildfire given your experience fighting fires, when the crash happened do you think a fire extinguisher would have helped spare the lives of the two people in the car?

also guys do you think it exploded because it was heavily modded?

No, if it exploded they were probably dead. Ive been to a lot of car fires and never seen one explode. the car looked beat up too, im sure it wasnt a 20mph crash, judging by the car parts all over the street. At the point they were video taping from, they were without a doubt dead and unsavable.

[ 2013-12-01, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: 70mach351 ]

Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :

^+1

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WIKD 281:
135.O
thanks for that write up!
Very informative

+1!

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 70mach351:

quote:
Originally posted by 0089GT:
hey wildfire given your experience fighting fires, when the crash happened do you think a fire extinguisher would have helped spare the lives of the two people in the car?

also guys do you think it exploded because it was heavily modded?
No, if it exploded they were probably dead. Ive been to a lot of car fires and never seen one explode. the car looked beat up too, im sure it wasnt a 20mph crash, judging by the car parts all over the street. At the point they were video taping from, they were without a doubt dead and unsavable.

I assume he lost control at high speeds possibly around a bend? or he came into a corner too fast that was tighter than he anticipated.

[ 2013-12-01, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 0089GT:
hey wildfire given your experience fighting fires, when the crash happened do you think a fire extinguisher would have helped spare the lives of the two people in the car?

also guys do you think it exploded because it was heavily modded?

If someone was there right away with a fire extinguisher and the fire actually started small like a normal car fire maybe but from the video i have seen only a fire engine would be putting that fire out. I heard the car exploded though and the explosion would have killed anyone inside if they weren't already dead.

Posted by 510cpskid (Member # 8277) on :

confirming 79cobra was not the driver? Rip Paul Walker.

Posted by 5Porn0 (Member # 6001) on :

Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak

Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 5Porn0:
Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak

I don't think that's funny at all. Being a car guy and knowing Paul walker was a car guy there's a mutual respect amongst us motorists we all know what we do is dangerous and life can be lost at any moment. I'm not a fan of the furious movies and they do make me laugh but death in the motoring community does not. I enjoyed some other walker work like running scared, joy ride, varsity blues etc me being 30 yrs old he is an actor from my time and it's sad he he died. Rip

Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:

quote:
Originally posted by 5Porn0:
Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak
I don't think that's funny at all. Being a car guy and knowing Paul walker was a car guy there's a mutual respect amongst us motorists we all know what we do is dangerous and life can be lost at any moment. I'm not a fan of the furious movies and they do make me laugh but death in the motoring community does not. I enjoyed some other walker work like running scared, joy ride, varsity blues etc me being 30 yrs old he is an actor from my time and it's sad he he died. Rip

Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WIKD 281:
135.O
thanks for that write up!
Very informative

I'll second that.

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:

quote:
Originally posted by 5Porn0:
Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak
I don't think that's funny at all. Being a car guy and knowing Paul walker was a car guy there's a mutual respect amongst us motorists we all know what we do is dangerous and life can be lost at any moment. I'm not a fan of the furious movies and they do make me laugh but death in the motoring community does not. I enjoyed some other walker work like running scared, joy ride, varsity blues etc me being 30 yrs old he is an actor from my time and it's sad he he died. Rip

+10000

Posted by 06ragtopgt_SOS (Member # 11327) on :

RIP to the most famous gearhead of the last decade, and his buddy as well. The F&F series may be cheesy as hell, but car movies are always awesome none the less. I found the adress to the scene of the accident and its right of I-5. How many people going to Knotts in April would interested in stopping by on the way down to pay respects?

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:

quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:

quote:
Originally posted by 5Porn0:
Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak
I don't think that's funny at all. Being a car guy and knowing Paul walker was a car guy there's a mutual respect amongst us motorists we all know what we do is dangerous and life can be lost at any moment. I'm not a fan of the furious movies and they do make me laugh but death in the motoring community does not. I enjoyed some other walker work like running scared, joy ride, varsity blues etc me being 30 yrs old he is an actor from my time and it's sad he he died. Rip
+10000

Really bad taste especially since it's not funny in this type of situation.

Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :

I was 11 years old when the first movie came out, Never really had interest in the whole car scene prior to watching it. I clearly remember my friend and i looking at each other after the movie was over and said "i want to live that lifestyle". Suddenly i had every Need For Speed game you can buy, I was obsessed with Grand Turismo and constantly went to the arcade to play all the racing games there. Yeah looking back, The movies where kind of cheesy and over the top but they and more specifically Paul's character is what drew me into the car scene.

Also, Paul wasn't that guy who just played the part of the movie, The guy was one of us. A huge gear head who was a car nut as much as the average people who never let the fame get to his head. Didnt have any problems chatting about cars with regular people. Thats what made me respect him more than anything.

Just got back from a meet up in tribute to him. Was super cool and an ass load of cars showed up.

[ 2013-12-02, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Robb ]

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

R.I.P [patriot]

Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:

quote:
Originally posted by SIC9250:

quote:
Originally posted by 93coupessp:

quote:
Originally posted by 5Porn0:
Vin Diesel visited the crash site and found out how he crashed

http://youtu.be/wNWaYfZI3Ak
I don't think that's funny at all. Being a car guy and knowing Paul walker was a car guy there's a mutual respect amongst us motorists we all know what we do is dangerous and life can be lost at any moment. I'm not a fan of the furious movies and they do make me laugh but death in the motoring community does not. I enjoyed some other walker work like running scared, joy ride, varsity blues etc me being 30 yrs old he is an actor from my time and it's sad he he died. Rip
+10000
Really bad taste especially since it's not funny in this type of situation.

too early to clown...thumbs down.

RIP Paul Walker

Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :

rip... very sad..

[ 2013-12-02, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: 68dustin ]

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

I wonder why the car caught fire? Last Wednesday(27th) I seen a Porsche on fire on 101.

Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :

TO FAST TO MUCH NO HANLDES, coming june 15 2014

Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/

quote:
Walker's generosity

Tales of the actor's philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. military veteran shopping with his fiance for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.

"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."

Although Walker noticed them, the couple apparently did not know who he was, King said.

"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,' " she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."

King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/

quote:
Walker's generosity

Tales of the actor's philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. military veteran shopping with his fiance for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.

"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."

Although Walker noticed them, the couple apparently did not know who he was, King said.

"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,' " she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."

King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."

That's what's up [patriot]

on another note..... guess the KIDS makin jokes about this just couldn't resist the temptation for another worthless post for more than a minute an show some respect rather than act like the immature dipshits they are 9x outta 10 on this board [Roll Eyes]

GTFOH if your gonna be that fag seriously....

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson

Posted by 79 cobra (Member # 10137) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 06ragtopgt_SOS:
RIP to the most famous gearhead of the last decade, and his buddy as well. The F&F series may be cheesy as hell, but car movies are always awesome none the less. I found the adress to the scene of the accident and its right of I-5. How many people going to Knotts in April would interested in stopping by on the way down to pay respects?

im down didn't go last year but going for sure next year

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson

It's like a flawed design by Porsche

Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/

quote:
Walker's generosity

Tales of the actor's philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. military veteran shopping with his fiance for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.

"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."

Although Walker noticed them, the couple apparently did not know who he was, King said.

"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,' " she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."

King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."

Great post bro, sad to see him go. I saw a pic of Tyrese at the crash site and it looked like he was inconsolable that goes to show how much people really cared for this guy. RIP

Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche

It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.

RIP to a fellow gear head.

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.

RIP to a fellow gear head.

the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.

the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?

not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!

"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??

if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design

[ 2013-12-02, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/

quote:
Walker's generosity

Tales of the actor's philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. military veteran shopping with his fiance for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.

"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."

Although Walker noticed them, the couple apparently did not know who he was, King said.

"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,' " she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."

King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."

RIP Paul

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

Here's a video of them wrecking

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/e2//now/stitched/mp4/dd04fb63-53af-417a-be12-2abf285306e6/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000/8c913e59-c00a-4d37-925b-27b6ed698fcc/2725010b-5d56-4af3-8195- efbc6884ebce/0/0/74/1737538984/content.mp4

So fuckin' sad to these two go out like that [Frown]

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.

RIP to a fellow gear head.

They are now saying it had a steering line burst. And that is one of the reasons there are no skid marks, and the reason for the front end fire. Was a whole write up about about it on reddit.

Link with footage of the wreck happening.

http://freepatriot.org/2013/12/02/breaking-surveillance-film-shows-crash-killed-paul-walker-star-fast-furious/

[ 2013-12-02, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]

Posted by nasty93 (Member # 8935) on :

Oh man..rip.

Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.

RIP to a fellow gear head.
the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.

the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?

not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!

"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??

if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design

Just because this car is mid engine does not mean it is uncontrollable. The handling of the car is just as much influenced by the spring/shock/sway bar package. Porsche set this car up as it would a race car, which is a little bit loose, in other words willing to rotate about its axis. The faster a car can rotate the faster it can turn in to a corner, get around the corner and get pointed in the right direction so you can accelerate. The fastest street cars and race cars on the planet are mid engine. Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Formula 1, American Le Mans prototype cars are all mid engine.

I have not driven a Carrera GT but I have some experience in a race car and when a race car is setup properly it is on the knife edge of breaking loose. You have to be on top of it and completely focused. Any little thing on the track can send you off the track, even a small layer of dust can put you in a spin.

Top Gear is an entertainment show. Take their results with a grain of salt.

Roger Rodas was an experienced racer and knew exactly what this car was and the risks involved with driving it on the street.

[ 2013-12-03, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: SF Coupe ]

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

How long ago was traction control introduced into cars? Seems weird that professional racers need traction control to keep it on the road now, i didn't think it was introduced that long ago.

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
How long ago was traction control introduced into cars? Seems weird that professional racers need traction control to keep it on the road now, i didn't think it was introduced that long ago.

'09 it became mandatory.

[ 2013-12-03, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: Greasy ]

Posted by 135.0 (Member # 4992) on :

I had traction control on a 01 gt

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

Get ready for politicians in this state to use this tragedy to push some new agenda about speeding or racing smh...rip Paul walker

Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Get ready for politicians in this state to use this tragedy to push some new agenda about speeding or racing smh...rip Paul walker

BAN Carerra GTs!!!!!

Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Get ready for politicians in this state to use this tragedy to push some new agenda about speeding or racing smh...rip Paul walker

oh its going to happen just watch....

RIP

Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :

pro drivers? more like hella money and drove as a hobbie cause he could, he was a pro actor folks. no car god other then acted with hot chicks lol. and pro drivers dont or shouldnt speed on city streets.

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

^ Roger Rodas was actually a racecar driver/owner,he had the necessary skills to prevent this but even Dale Earnhardt died,unfortunatley bad shit just happens [Frown]

Posted by DSGMach1 (Member # 6177) on :

Didnt Jay Leno wipe out on one of these too? I think it was on that show where he built his Toronado and made it a RWD

Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :

Rodas 8yr old son tried to help save his Father,and Paul's best friend also tried,says they went through fire extinguishers but the fire was just to much...the reaction from Tyrese is hard to watch..sinking in more and more by the day,so shitty this happened [Frown]

RIP...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/paul-walker-death-eightyearold-son-of-driver-roger-rodas-tried-to-rescue-his-father-8977308.html

[ 2013-12-03, 12:51 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]

Posted by Saleen 00-0768 (Member # 9379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:

quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4

Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.

RIP to a fellow gear head.
the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.

the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?

not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!

"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??

if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design
Just because this car is mid engine does not mean it is uncontrollable. The handling of the car is just as much influenced by the spring/shock/sway bar package. Porsche set this car up as it would a race car, which is a little bit loose, in other words willing to rotate about its axis. The faster a car can rotate the faster it can turn in to a corner, get around the corner and get pointed in the right direction so you can accelerate. The fastest street cars and race cars on the planet are mid engine. Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Formula 1, American Le Mans prototype cars are all mid engine.

I have not driven a Carrera GT but I have some experience in a race car and when a race car is setup properly it is on the knife edge of breaking loose. You have to be on top of it and completely focused. Any little thing on the track can send you off the track, even a small layer of dust can put you in a spin.

Top Gear is an entertainment show. Take their results with a grain of salt.

Roger Rodas was an experienced racer and knew exactly what this car was and the risks involved with driving it on the street.

It may very well have been a mechanical failure in that situation. I was only commenting on the handling aspect of the car and how it doesn't do well in a slide or drift, and just because its configured as a mid-engine (which isn't typical Porsche) doesn't mean it handles the same as all other mid engine cars and is balanced the same, which was my reason for saying "flawed".

[ 2013-12-03, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: Saleen 00-0768 ]

Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

This article pretty much says that if they were alive after the crash they could have possibly survived it IF someone was on scene right after the accident and had a fire extinguisher.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/showbiz/paul-walker-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Santa Clarita, California (CNN) -- The fire that engulfed the Porsche carrying actor Paul Walker apparently did not erupt until a minute after the car clipped a light pole Saturday.
That conclusion is based on security camera video obtained by CNN that shows black smoke starting to rise from the crash scene 60 seconds after it shows the light pole and a tree falling.
Investigators have placed a "security hold" on preliminary findings of the autopsies of the remains of two men -- presumed to be Walker and friend Roger Rodas, a coroner's officer said. The autopsies were completed Tuesday, Los Angeles County Coroner Lt. Fred Corral said.
The coroner will not even disclose if the identities have been confirmed using dental X-rays. Officially, the dead are only identified as case numbers.
Corral did not give a reason for the secrecy, which can be requested by law enforcement agencies during an investigation. It is often done in cases involving criminal probes, but there has been no indication this is anything more than a traffic accident investigation.
The autopsies should be able to confirm whether Rodas, as witnesses reported, was behind the wheel with Walker in the passenger seat.
Video obtained by CNN Tuesday from a security camera posted on a building on the opposite side of the street from the crash does not show the Porsche Carerra GT crashing along a business park street in Valencia, California, Saturday afternoon.
It does show the light pole and tree falling. Smoke is faintly visible above the scene 60 seconds later, followed by a heavy plume of black smoke after two minutes.
As investigators searched for more information about the accident that killed the popular "Fast & Furious" actor on Saturday, one of his co-stars dramatically addressed grieving fans.
Using a police car's loudspeaker, actor Vin Diesel thanked a crowd of mourning fans, calling Walker an "angel up in Heaven." Every night since the crash fans have gathered and left mementos near the spot on a wide business park road in Valencia, California, about 30 miles north of Hollywood, according to Walker's publicist and CNN affiliate KCAL.
Rodas, owner of a high-performance car shop, is believed to have been driving. Both Rodas and Walker were drivers for Rodas' Always Evolving racing team, according to the team's website.
By Tuesday Diesel had posted several pictures of his friend on his Facebook page.
And earlier this week, another co-star, Tyrese Gibson, broke down sobbing as he laid a yellow flower at the site.
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"My heart is hurting so bad no one can make me believe this is real," the singer and actor posted on Instagram. He also shared the duo's last text exchange.
Walker's father, Paul Walker Sr., choked back tears Monday. "His heart was so big," he told CNN affiliate KCAL. "I was proud of him every day of his life."
The actor had told his father that he wanted to take a hiatus from acting to spend more time with his 15-year-old daughter, Meadow, the elder Walker said. "And then boom, he got another movie. He would say, 'I don't know what to do.'"
He said the actor's siblings are having an especially hard time grappling with the death.
"I'm just ... glad that every time I saw him, I told him I loved him," the father said. "And he would say the same thing to me."
The Walker family issued a statement expressing thanks for "the outpouring of love and goodwill from his many fans and friends."
They asked that instead of flowers, people make donations to his charity, Reach Out Worldwide. The actor was at a benefit for the charity just before he died.
"It's comforting for them to know that the son, brother, and father they love so much is equally adored, respected, and appreciated by so many," the statement said. "Paul founded the organization with the genuine desire to help others, and it's important to his family to keep his memory alive through ROWW."
No memorial service plans have been made, Walker's publicist has said.

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