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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
ive built a few cars.even built my 29 ford coupe hot rod all myself,just never got into foxes and like what you fellas are saying,heard its cheap speed.

as for owning one 20 years that answers my next question of 'are the dependable'

im leaning towards an 87

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Originally posted by a302juGRnot:
If its going to be a dd, I wouldn't recommend it. Too much worry about getting stolen and its just not comfortable

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Originally posted by a302juGRnot:
If its going to be a dd, I wouldn't recommend it. Too much worry about getting stolen and its just not comfortable

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they arnt comfortable? I was planning on slamming it on coils. as for the theft thing, my new edge to me looked like it was more tempting to take then a fox but I know, the foxes are a lot easier.but what mustang isn't

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A fox will get stolen alot faster then a new edge especially if its clean.

As far as comfort, I meant more like working ac, reliability, and even the noise inside. U can make them dd friendly but generally, they are not. it's just a perk of a 20+ year old car.
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Yes I would. I've owned my current fox for 2 years and been daily driving it for nearly all that time until a few months ago when I bought another car. All I have to say is that a fox is reliable as fuck! They will take all the beating you can give them and still continue to take you anywhere with no problems. I have yet to be left on the side of the road with it, my 2004 BMW has already left me there. All foxes need is normal maintenance and it's good to go, people who tell you otherwise usually have a lemon on their hands. I've driven mine from Redwood City to San Jose to Hayward then to Sac raceway N got 12 runs in(tire blew from being too bald) then drove it back home in Menlo Park and did not get overheated or anything even with driving nearly over 100 the whole time.
 

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Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
The only real issue is securty.... .leave it stock and the feel just fine......now if you expect it to roll like a new car I dunno what to tell you
 

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Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 

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Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Yes I would. I've owned my current fox for 2 years and been daily driving it for nearly all that time until a few months ago when I bought another car. All I have to say is that a fox is reliable as fuck! They will take all the beating you can give them and still continue to take you anywhere with no problems. I have yet to be left on the side of the road with it, my 2004 BMW has already left me there. All foxes need is normal maintenance and it's good to go, people who tell you otherwise usually have a lemon on their hands. I've driven mine from Redwood City to San Jose to Hayward then to Sac raceway N got 12 runs in(tire blew from being too bald) then drove it back home in Menlo Park and did not get overheated or anything even with driving nearly over 100 the whole time.

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U have a great runner and mine has also never left on the road yet but I've seen many many foxes have problems so its just expected especially if maintenance wasn't kept up...n lets be real, most you'll find won't be kept up.

Not bashing foxes but like I said its a 20 year old car...just gotta replace all the parts n reliability is there.
 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 
I know its not a new car,and I plan on gutting the a/c out of it anyway.I just want to make sure they are realiable and are fun cars.

ill do hidden killswitch.if I need to, that's not a problem
 

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Posted by Wht86drop (Member # 12104) on :
 
When i bought my white 86 i drove it home from fresno which is a 3 hour drive. Clutch was slipping, had bad tires and it sat for like 4 years untouched on some dirt. It drove home fine with no issues besides the clutch.
 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 
i was lokin at a notch thats sat for 2 years and was wondering about that.so you al realy like them huh?

our 04 has had clutch issues since i got it and its had 3 clutches in it and i stil dont like its clutch
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
I had a couple fox bodies. They are good drag cars but i wouldnt want to drive them on the street. A 1994/95 5.0 is 10x more comfortable and a better driver than a fox.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Why are the New Edges better than a Fox?

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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Good luck finding a foxbody saleen for 5K, lol.

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
Lets get back on track. I NEVER saod I wanted a saleen. okay we are tslkun about gt or lx 5.0

94-95 look pretty ugly to me.its either a fox or 99- up but you can't cam those as easy as a 5.0.

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Oh Yeah, LX 5.0

I'll take a fully restored CHP 5.0 mustang to add to my collection.

 

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Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Why are the New Edges better than a Fox?

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A new edge 1999+ mustang is better than a FOX mustang in every way:

Stiffer chassis.
Nicer interior.
More power.
better brakes.
better handling.

The FOX convertibles are horrible. Every FOX vert I ever drove felt so loose and made so creak and rattle noises that I thought the car was going to split in two. FOX convertibles are definatly tin cans on wheels. The 1994 convertible mustangs feel very solid and the 1999 Mustang convertibles are even better.
The 1994 Mustang convertibles even have a nice headliner on them while the FOX convertibles do not.

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Originally posted by moeofit32:
i got money that say my vert doesnt handle like a pos!!! its all a money game... you wanna put up some money? cobraracer?

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Why are the New Edges better than a Fox?

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A new edge 1999+ mustang is better than a FOX mustang in every way:

Stiffer chassis.
Nicer interior.
More power.
better brakes.
better handling.

The FOX convertibles are horrible. Every FOX vert I ever drove felt so loose and made so creak and rattle noises that I thought the car was going to split in two. FOX convertibles are definatly tin cans on wheels. The 1994 convertible mustangs feel very solid and the 1999 Mustang convertibles are even better.
The 1994 Mustang convertibles even have a nice headliner on them while the FOX convertibles do not.

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I guarantee my tin can 93 convertible will handle your 2001 cobra convertible anytime...You should research your sources before making stupid fucking comments..Trust me bro you will get left in a fat cloud of smoke... Foxbody convertibles FTMFW ....
 

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Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 

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Originally posted by Venomousnotch:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by Greasy:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
I would only recommend a FOX body to some one if is was a super clean Saleen, not the primerd junk from some CAfords member.



It would be hard to find a clean Saleen FOX so I would steer a some one into a nice 1999+ mustang as those cars are a million times better in every way than a FOX mustang.

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Why are the New Edges better than a Fox?

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A new edge 1999+ mustang is better than a FOX mustang in every way:

Stiffer chassis.
Nicer interior.
More power.
better brakes.
better handling.

The FOX convertibles are horrible. Every FOX vert I ever drove felt so loose and made so creak and rattle noises that I thought the car was going to split in two. FOX convertibles are definatly tin cans on wheels. The 1994 convertible mustangs feel very solid and the 1999 Mustang convertibles are even better.
The 1994 Mustang convertibles even have a nice headliner on them while the FOX convertibles do not.

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I guarantee my tin can 93 convertible will handle your 2001 cobra convertible anytime...You should research your sources before making stupid fucking comments..Trust me bro you will get left in a fat cloud of smoke... Foxbody convertibles FTMFW ....

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LOL YEEEE!!!!!!STEP UP
 

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Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
foxbody > 94-04 mustangs

that goes for any money to performance ratio aspect

 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 
Can you guys please stop the pissing match

sneaky- and all the others not arguing, it seems like ppl either love thier fox or they hate them,I'm thinking the 94-04 is just quite a bit more expensive than a lil fox.

I'd like to get a vote of 87-93 against 94-95
 

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Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
the fox is the most popular mustang ever built. no vote needed.
 

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Posted by 510_fox (Member # 11311) on :
 
I just sold my 01 s/c gt and picked up a 5.0! Pretty excited
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Without a doubt 86-93 > 94/95 ANY DAY
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Foxbody
 

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Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Fox body's all day. I picked this up for 4k maximum motorsport goodies, cam, intake tq boxes welded ect... Deals are out there. Easy to mod cheap and can be made very reliable.


[ 2013-07-24, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Pure Stang ]
 

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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
If you get a fox, I make a fox very comfortable to drive everyday depending on your budget, but you do have to worry about them getting stolen, 94-95 are cheaper, slower and you don't have worry about them getting stolen as much but you still have to upgrade the suspension.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
New Edges were built on the same chassis as a Fox. It is easier to make power with a pushrod 302 than it is with a 2V modular.

this right here is my reason, its so much cheaper and easier to mod a 302 than the twin cam gt.

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New edge Mustangs are not built off of FOX body chassis. In 1994, Ford extensivly revised the FOX chassis. Here is a photo of the heavily revised mustang chassis.




In the photo, the 1994 chassis is painted different colors to show the changes Ford made with SN95 Mustang;

White: essentially carryover from 1993
RED: all new design
Blue; modified carryover
Yellow: convertible only.

One example of the huge difference between the 1994 and later cars VS the FOX bodies is the front wheel wel area that is painted blue on the 1994 chassis. the FOX body cars, that are was made up of three pieces while on the 1994 and later cars, it's a much stronger one piece design. There are many more improvements that Ford made including increasing the thickness of the metal on the 1994 and later cars. I could go on listing the big chassis differences between the FOX body and SN95 cars, but I think I have proven my point that the SN95 chassis is a essentially a new design and a million times better than the FOX chassis.
 

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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
New Edges were built on the same chassis as a Fox. It is easier to make power with a pushrod 302 than it is with a 2V modular.

this right here is my reason, its so much cheaper and easier to mod a 302 than the twin cam gt.

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New edge Mustangs are not built off of FOX body chassis. In 1994, Ford extensivly revised the FOX chassis. Here is a photo of the heavily revised mustang chassis.




In the photo, the 1994 chassis is painted different colors to show the changes Ford made with SN95 Mustang;

White: essentially carryover from 1993
RED: all new design
Blue; modified carryover
Yellow: convertible only.

One example of the huge difference between the 1994 and later cars VS the FOX bodies is the front wheel wel area that is painted blue on the 1994 chassis. the FOX body cars, that are was made up of three pieces while on the 1994 and later cars, it's a much stronger one piece design. There are many more improvements that Ford made including increasing the thickness of the metal on the 1994 and later cars. I could go on listing the big chassis differences between the FOX body and SN95 cars, but I think I have proven my point that the SN95 chassis is a essentially a new design and a million times better than the FOX chassis.

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
New Edges were built on the same chassis as a Fox. It is easier to make power with a pushrod 302 than it is with a 2V modular.

this right here is my reason, its so much cheaper and easier to mod a 302 than the twin cam gt.

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New edge Mustangs are not built off of FOX body chassis. In 1994, Ford extensivly revised the FOX chassis. Here is a photo of the heavily revised mustang chassis.




In the photo, the 1994 chassis is painted different colors to show the changes Ford made with SN95 Mustang;

White: essentially carryover from 1993
RED: all new design
Blue; modified carryover
Yellow: convertible only.

One example of the huge difference between the 1994 and later cars VS the FOX bodies is the front wheel wel area that is painted blue on the 1994 chassis. the FOX body cars, that are was made up of three pieces while on the 1994 and later cars, it's a much stronger one piece design. There are many more improvements that Ford made including increasing the thickness of the metal on the 1994 and later cars. I could go on listing the big chassis differences between the FOX body and SN95 cars, but I think I have proven my point that the SN95 chassis is a essentially a new design and a million times better than the FOX chassis.

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
[Q]Originally posted by Venomousnotch:
I guarantee my tin can 93 convertible will handle your 2001 cobra convertible anytime...You should research your sources before making stupid fucking comments..Trust me bro you will get left in a fat cloud of smoke... Foxbody convertibles FTMFW .... [/Q]


If your tin can FOX can out perform my built 2001 Cobra convertible, I will be impressed.

 

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Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
[Q]Originally posted by Venomousnotch:
I guarantee my tin can 93 convertible will handle your 2001 cobra convertible anytime...You should research your sources before making stupid fucking comments..Trust me bro you will get left in a fat cloud of smoke... Foxbody convertibles FTMFW .... [/Q]


If your tin can FOX can out perform my built 2001 Cobra convertible, I will be

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How buikt can this cobra be if your worried about smog

[ 2013-07-24, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: moeofit32 ]
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:

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Cobra 93-4992,

You are just like irritating pigeon dumping a load of bird shit on a paint job. All you do is dump bird shit on CAford threads.
 

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Posted by Venomousnotch (Member # 8695) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
[Q]Originally posted by Venomousnotch:
I guarantee my tin can 93 convertible will handle your 2001 cobra convertible anytime...You should research your sources before making stupid fucking comments..Trust me bro you will get left in a fat cloud of smoke... Foxbody convertibles FTMFW .... [/Q]


If your tin can FOX can out perform my built 2001 Cobra convertible, I will be impressed.

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Trust me bro you will get handled real quick...
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 

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Originally posted by Venomousnotch:
Trust me bro you will get handled real quick... ]

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:

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Cobra 93-4992,

You are just like irritating pigeon dumping a load of bird shit on a paint job. All you do is dump bird shit on CAford threads. [/QB][/QUOTE]


Now you know the feeling everybody else here experiences with your posts. You are neither helpful or constructive, only opinionated and you serve no purpose other than to see your slanted views posted for all to see. If there is one positive thing you have contributed to the board please direct me to the post where someone said, Thank you Cobraracer46. FOR ANYTHING

[ 2013-07-24, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Cobra 93-4992 ]
 

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Posted by Blue92 (Member # 8789) on :
 
Why couldn't have cobraracer been the one pissed on?

But to OP, it seems it has been basically covered here by many. I love Foxbodies but your main concern will be worrying about it getting stolen. Other than that, they are great base cars to mod.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
If there is one positive thing you have contributed to the board please direct me to the post where someone said, Thank you Cobraracer46. FOR ANYTHING [/QB]

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:

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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
If there is one positive thing you have contributed to the board please direct me to the post where someone said, Thank you Cobraracer46. FOR ANYTHING

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The detailed 1994 Chassis improvement info I posted in this thread is good information that people could find useful.
Speaking of opinions, The tile of this thread is " would you recommend a FOX body" therefore, we are in opinionated thread and I gave my opinion about the topic and backed it up with some tech. [/QB]

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Your opinion was about as good as your accommodator review!






 

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Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
Anyone that says that a Fox rides like shit, must not know how to set up a suspension. I have dd many mustangs over my 20 years of ownership. I driven then in Neb winters, threw snow, ice, -20+ temps. Never having durability issues. Now staying on the road in 5+ inches of snow, well that is another story. I have also dd'd then in 117+ temps in Az. Again not a single issue. Hands down some of the most durable cars on the streets.

With them reaching 30+ years on the roads. You will have some up keep, and a few rattles. nothing you can't either get a replacement part to fix, or just tighten up with a screw driver. Best bang for the buck car on the market. Not to mention king of the aftermarket. Hell you can even buy a brand new shell if you wanted.. Fox Bodies are gods amongst mere tin cans.
 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 
i wish the pissing match would stop.take the drama elsewhere

wel theres ben so msny mixed reviews bith here and other threads.some say they are great some say they suck.most of the guys that like them tend to be the guys thats owned them ling periods of time.

rattles dont bother me.like i said.i have a 29 ford coupe hotrod..its so noisey rattles and all but it but it goes like hell
 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 

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Originally posted by Pure Stang:
Fox body's all day. I picked this up for 4k maximum motorsport goodies, cam, intake tq boxes welded ect... Deals are out there. Easy to mod cheap and can be made very reliable.

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
So seems like its a safe bet and if I don't lime it its very saleable

so I been seein a lot of comments about theft.is it that bad for these?

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Originally posted by gipsy danger:
after looking at Many fox mustangs, I give up.I'm lookin at a 95 5.0 tomorow.every fox I've looked at was beat to absolute shit and the owners think its a sports car.the 95 is beat but for 1300, there's room to fix it.I'm seeing foxes in the same shape for almost 4k.I'd rather spend less and get the 5 lug and rear discs stock.

thanks for all the opinions tho fellas.

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Originally posted by moeofit32:
Lije neight said its a waiting game shit I've been waiting years to run into a iroc at a good price thats not a pos.these cars are priced higher then foxes for some odd reason.......

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Funny you want an Iroc. Did I ever tell you how someone was giving me one that was freshly painted(was still in his paint shop) Iroc for free? Well as you can see I didn't take it, they ugly Moe!
 

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Posted by gipsy danger (Member # 10590) on :
 
Yeah I'd say those camaros are the worst thing ever.

Well I can't keep waiting.I sold my car and need another.but hell, for 1300$ I can't go wrong with the 95
 

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Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Well it's your money and your choice so if you want a sn95 then go for it. I know for me personally I have the luck of when I jump on something, something better or something I was looking for originally comes up.
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
I agree with the overpriced fox bodies. Lol@ people wanting $3-4k for their broken down swang buckets. You can get a super nice 94+ GT for that and they are better in every way.
 

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Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 

Foxbody FTW I bought this as a 4cly for 1,000 in LA. drove it back to Sacramento and started modding her it takes time and dedication and a good set of tools to be in the foxbody game. Its hard to come buy "good deals". I was like you tired of overpriced cars and shit buckets so I just built up my own "overpriced" notch. 6yrs ago notchbacks were going for 6-7,000 and things have not changed if fact the hatches are on the up now.

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Posted by diablounicorn (Member # 13033) on :
 
Brought my 91lx hatch 5.0 for 1k, drove it for a year all over san Diego and to the bay and all over the bay until my oil pump went out. My tip don't by a chp nothing special about a police car if anything the shit has more body twist then the normal notch n hatchbacks. If you do buy a chp check if its a real chp, it seems like everybody and their mother own a "chp" in the bayarea.

If its a 4banger swap 5.0 offer them 4 banger swap worth unless its a very clean swap. And if u don't want overpriced I suggest you don't look in the bayarea, some people swear they have rare cars and forget its was built for 15 years straight. Look in SoCal nevada or Oregon too.

If you plan on keeping the car for some years why not buy a cheap 4banger and hop on cafords and get ur dose of all the used parts on here for a v8 swap. 5k and being on this forum I guarantee you build a better car then the ones being sold overpriced.
 

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Posted by diablounicorn (Member # 13033) on :
 
Brought my 91lx hatch 5.0 for 1k, drove it for a year all over san Diego and to the bay and all over the bay until my oil pump went out. My tip don't by a chp nothing special about a police car if anything the shit has more body twist then the normal notch n hatchbacks. If you do buy a chp check if its a real chp, it seems like everybody and their mother own a "chp" in the bayarea.

If its a 4banger swap 5.0 offer them 4 banger swap worth unless its a very clean swap. And if u don't want overpriced I suggest you don't look in the bayarea, some people swear they have rare cars and forget its was built for 15 years straight. Look in SoCal nevada or Oregon too.

If you plan on keeping the car for some years why not buy a cheap 4banger and hop on cafords and get ur dose of all the used parts on here for a v8 swap. 5k and being on this forum I guarantee you build a better car then the ones being sold overpriced.
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Get a sn or new edge mustang ... More Foxbodies for the real enthusiast
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Less fox owners FTW!
 

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Posted by 93 hatch (Member # 8100) on :
 
Best bang for your bucks.Love fox Mustangs
 

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Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on :
 


Heres mine was originally a 4cyl now has a 5.0 H/C/I its very fun to drive and its a head turner. Any car that you get is gonna have some type of problems but thats apart of the game. Foxbodys ftw!!!!!
 

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