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Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Not sure if its a repost, I didn't see it. My bad if it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv3zkPfU2TE

thoughts? opinions?
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Makes my fucking blood boil. Cops are more like Natzis anymore.
 
Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
Fuckin pigs that's hella disturbing they should off sprayed mace not kill that dog im sure if they killed that cops dog if he got loose and bit another cop he wouldn't be happy if they shot his dog that was wrong he should get trown in jail or get fired made med when I seen it that's my opinion.
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
The scene of the dog tossing after its been shot will never leave me now. Fuck. He wasn't in full on attack mode, you see him just step and smell the ground for a while.
 
Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
Fucking pigs man... Dog was only trying to protect his master
 
Posted by Anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :
 
That's fucked up the vacaville pd did the samething to my brothers dog they saw my lil brother run in the house to use the bathroom and walked in to the house the dog was just layi g there and as soon as the dog sat up they shot him.
 
Posted by Vallejo707 (Member # 10296) on :
 
f*** im pissed right now [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]
 
Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
wow...thats all i can say.....cause my dogs woulda did the same thing
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
Straight bullshit!
 
Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :
 
thats sad man...poor dog, mans best friend..lord shall judge who is right and wrong on this one....
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
Man I read this story and the dogs owner is at fault, if reports and eye witness accounts are accurate. Sad situation.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Wow man I have a few dogs N that's some straight fucked up shit especially since it looked like the owner still had control on his dog. Dog was more trying to push the cops away rather than attacking. [Roll Eyes] [BS flag]

Oh BTW that's more fucked up by letting it suffer like that might as well kill it instead of having it suffer! [Mad]

[ 2013-07-01, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: NEIGHT ]
 
Posted by BLK35th (Member # 4685) on :
 
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.

[ 2013-07-01, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: BLK35th ]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
All on the cops. If they never tried to take him in for video taping them. It never would of happened.


Video of the guy telling his side of the story.


http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1466773308001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGBdRAo~,t2cIYZUexJ2HLdBYSBIAhhF2g1dnagVO&bctid=2520804003001
 
Posted by i (Member # 12534) on :
 
That's fuck up [Mad] Rotweilers ARE THE BEST!
RIP MAX [worship] LOYALTY ABOVE ALL LAWS
 
Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
gtfo
 
Posted by stanger50 (Member # 1665) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
+1.
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stanger50:
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
+1.
+2

its a terrible situation...looks like the cop was going for his collar to possibly handle the dog...but the dog jumped.
 
Posted by Infamous5.0 (Member # 1745) on :
 
This makes me sick! The cop loving Jews will justify this even after watching exactly what happened.
 
Posted by BlackNGold (Member # 655) on :
 
There was no reason to shoot that dog..........End of story
 
Posted by WILDMAN97 (Member # 9138) on :
 
FUCK!! I wish I had not watched that video now. That's some BS.
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
+3 but the cop could have easily whipped out his baton and cracked the dog on the skull. If the dog keeps coming then put him down.
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fredfifty:
quote:
Originally posted by stanger50:
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
All on the owner. This could have been easily avoided.
+1.
+2

its a terrible situation...looks like the cop was going for his collar to possibly handle the dog...but the dog jumped.
+100
Fucking sucks for the dog I wish the owner would have got one on the leg for being stupid and being to close to the situation. Once again fucking idiot being to close and not letting police do their job. U guys act like cops are the dog wishperer. Any of u guys with a gun in hand would have done the same specially with a big dog like that. Once again I pet suffer from owners being a fucking idiot. Fuck im mad now
 
Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
 
Posted by stanger50 (Member # 1665) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
Amen to that Sal.
 
Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
lmao you call that nice?
 
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on :
 
Im still trying to figure out why he was cuffed and handled like that...

[ 2013-07-02, 11:38 AM: Message edited by: 87MclarenMustang ]
 
Posted by 89Saleen310 (Member # 5397) on :
 
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
He wanted attention he got it. Good shot placement
If you can't hit a 90-120lbs dog 3 feet from you. You shouldn't own a gun! I do understand this is where cops stick up for other cops. Dude was 100% a ass hat. But that being said. What did he do but film some cops arresting someone. Even Him filming & talking shit to them, didn't interfere with said arrest. He was 20-30 feet from any officer. I guess cali has the same law as N.Y. Now it is going to be a felony to harass cop. Police state here we come.
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
According to reports he was blasting music from his car. Then started recording. The attention whore got what he was looking for. Fuckin sucks for the dog
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
I find it sickening when somebody will defend another man simply because he has a badge. Dude made a terrible judgment call like a LOT of officers do. Police are people, which means that even they are capable of being scum. A lot of them are too. It's so funny how many nerds from high school that got picked on in my town ended up officers. They like to finally tell somebody what to do. They love that badge. They think it makes them more of a man, but on the contrary... It's just another safety blanket for those pussys.

They are NOT heros. They are people who thought it would be cool to have a badge and gun daily.
 
Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
Look the circumstances behind it could have been avoided.

The legality of the detention is in question but the shoot itself is good.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
Oh and your right. He should of had the common sense to come to the common consensus that a lot of us do... Stay away from the pig because its dirty!
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
God says to show compassion, no matter the beast.

I can tell you two things as a man.

One, anyone I have ever met that shows no compassion is full of hate and ends up being empty at their core.

Two, cops are only human and like any human you have the good and the evil.

That being said, yes I called a few on here empty and a few on here cops lol.

Dogs owner was a fuckin idiot that should have gotten shot.
 
Posted by BucketNotch (Member # 10673) on :
 
[BS flag]
Fuck The Police.
 
Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
So he didn't do anything illegal to be "detained"?
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by SF Coupe:
quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
quote:
Originally posted by 89Saleen310:
The owner should have just minded his own business and this entire thing would have been avoided.
Why? Is it illegal to record police doing a raid? They were probably worried someone recording would catch them doing something they shouldn't be, just like what happens everyday in America. Pretty soon we will have a curfew and check points wherever you go.
It's called common sense. This dumbass didn't have any and now his dog is dead.
Is it illegal for a citizen to record a police raid?
Nope, but anybody with common sense would not act the way he was near a situation like that.
So he didn't do anything illegal to be "detained"?
correct me if i'm wrong, but some counties don't allow you to stand there and record a scene.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
Most of our better judgment would realize that standing there with either your music blasting or not recording a police raid is not a good idea. That being said the man did not break any laws nor did he interfere with police. It was a damn shame to use lethal force on a dog when you have other means to curb the situation. Why not tazer the dog or pepper spray it? This is so sad because this situation could've been avoided and you can tell by the mans reaction he loved the dog just a sad sad situation.
 
Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2fmevbZi40
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
What the fuck about it? Exceeding a decibal limit does NOT warrant detaining an individual. It's NOT reason to handcuff somebody. How would you feel if you were at you're local car meet with your system bumping and some cop handcuffed you for it? That would be an absolute outrage. A ticket, MAYBE. Depending on that city's laws the music may also have not been a violation. In my town I can be as loud as I want until 10 PM. What a sorry reason. Music. Haha joke.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2fmevbZi40
Another worthless pussy! [patriot]
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
The carshow pitch I agree but from what I read it was an active crime scene. In just getting all the information before I jump to conclusions here
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
The carshow pitch I agree but from what I read it was an active crime scene. In just getting all the information before I jump to conclusions here
Right.. He just wasn't in the perimeter of the active crime scene. Didn't cross tape or the line of cars. The cops were just annoyed because the guy was a douche bag. I get that. But he didn't break any laws. You can't take action over being annoyed. He really wasn't in the way of anything. Those officers had a nice little walk to even get to him.
 
Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 
why would you go up to the dog if you could tell its angry and ready to bite. the cop new what he was doing...pretty trigger happy there.
 
Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
God help us all from all the retarded ass comments.

The shoot itself is justified. The officer placed himself in harms way to protect his partners who were handling taking a subject into custody.

He wasnt previewed to what had transpired prior nor the legality of the stop. He eliminated the threat that was presented to him pure and simple.

As far as why they placed him in handcuffs etc well thats a different argument. The mere fact of going into handcuffs does not constitute an arrest. I cant hear what is being said when the officers walked up but it appears that if the guy really wanted to avoid contact he could have simply gotten into his car and left. I mean he had enough time to put his dog away. He chose to come back to the "problem".

Again my only issue with this is the question why he was contacted in the first place.

Pick up a legal resource book before you make idiotic comments.
 
Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
Pick up a legal resource book before you make idiotic comments.
You're giving CA Fords too much credit with that request. People become experts on EVERY subject and situation they comment on around here.
 
Posted by Anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :
 
I'm surprised no one has pulled the race card yet white cop black dog.
 
Posted by SantaClara_Cobra (Member # 9488) on :
 
Makes you wonder what his intentions were. Everyone and their phones just want to be the next world star hip hop sensation! Sucks for the dog that his owner did not properly lock him up in the car especially if the dog wasn't trained to stay. Btw I am a dog lover.I recently picked up a black gsd from a cafords member and can tell you I wouldn't put my dog in that situation. Then again she is one of them -

[ 2013-07-02, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: SantaClara_Cobra ]
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
Can't blame the cop on this one at all. All on the dog owner. If anything the cops waited longer to shoot than I thought it deserved.
 
Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
What the fuck about it? Exceeding a decibal limit does NOT warrant detaining an individual. It's NOT reason to handcuff somebody. How would you feel if you were at you're local car meet with your system bumping and some cop handcuffed you for it? That would be an absolute outrage. A ticket, MAYBE. Depending on that city's laws the music may also have not been a violation. In my town I can be as loud as I want until 10 PM. What a sorry reason. Music. Haha joke.
Exceding the decibal limit while a raid was going on was the problem. The officers asked the idiot to turn the music down as they were having trouble hearing the comms from the raid over his car. As they walked up they asked the guy to put his dog in the car prior to cuffing him. Maybe dude shoulda actually locked his dog in the car. Officers were pretty patient with this guy. And according to a google search, he has been arrested and convicted several times already by the same PD that was involved in the incident. I love how all you asshats jump on the cop hating band wagon without knowing the whole damned story. The only victim here was the poor rot that got killed because of his lousy dipshit owners actions...
 
Posted by 9cobrasnake9 (Member # 575) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobrasnake9:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
Sure dog's worry about their owner. but to be honest? The owner needs to be smarter than the dog. Why the fuck would you hang out, play your music, video tape the scene, and look like a total dumbass? They didn't detain him over some "power trip" they detained him because he refused to leave a scene that he has no business being there after being asked multiple times. Had he listened, he wouldn't have been handcuffed and the dog wouldn't have been shot. ( not sure if it was technically killed because the video cuts off, but more than likely, It was )

This is a good example of cause and effect
He had EVERY right to be there. He didn't cross any kind of sustained perimeter. There was no yellow tape. There were no officers at the side he began at. He was behind all the cars. Not in the way. POWER TRIP PIG!
How about the music ?
What the fuck about it? Exceeding a decibal limit does NOT warrant detaining an individual. It's NOT reason to handcuff somebody. How would you feel if you were at you're local car meet with your system bumping and some cop handcuffed you for it? That would be an absolute outrage. A ticket, MAYBE. Depending on that city's laws the music may also have not been a violation. In my town I can be as loud as I want until 10 PM. What a sorry reason. Music. Haha joke.
Exceding the decibal limit while a raid was going on was the problem. The officers asked the idiot to turn the music down as they were having trouble hearing the comms from the raid over his car. As they walked up they asked the guy to put his dog in the car prior to cuffing him. Maybe dude shoulda actually locked his dog in the car. Officers were pretty patient with this guy. And according to a google search, he has been arrested and convicted several times already by the same PD that was involved in the incident. I love how all you asshats jump on the cop hating band wagon without knowing the whole damned story. The only victim here was the poor rot that got killed because of his lousy dipshit owners actions... And Arch. I hate to break your balls here but it says youre from the 916\707 Well both Sac, vacaville, and fairfield all have similar noise ordinances. Here is a link to the sac one. http://www.qcode.us/codes/sacramento/view.php?topic=8-8_68-ii-8_68_060
You couldnt be more wrong about the laws of noise..

 
Posted by 93 hatch (Member # 8100) on :
 
By reading the post on here u can tell who the cops are.LOL The dog had a dumb shit for an owner. As for the cops They do whatever they want whenever they want. The biggest Legal gang in the US
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
Wel obviously you can be detained from being an asshat at a crime scene. Lack of judgment on his part. No power trip seen here. Pretty sure you knock the shit out of someone blasting music outside your house and recording you as well lol
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Owner had an agenda with the cops, the cops made his point for him and due to being a bad dog owner and not securing your animal the female cop decides to justifiably shoot the animal. Point made for owner and also thank gender equality cause the cunt of a cop shouldn't be that afraid of a dog to shoot it. Blame is on dog owner, cops being cops end of story.
 
Posted by cpthowdy (Member # 10055) on :
 
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Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
Owner had an agenda with the cops, the cops made his point for him and due to being a bad dog owner and not securing your animal the female cop decides to justifiably shoot the animal. Point made for owner and also thank gender equality cause the cunt of a cop shouldn't be that afraid of a dog to shoot it. Blame is on dog owner, cops being cops end of story.
that dog was large enough to be considered deadly.it want about being scared, outs about taking the correct course of action. Which they did. Were they supposed to wait until it was on top of an officer ripping his arm off before doing anything??

And a trazer would be a horrible choice on this one. Cops carry tazers the shoot two pronged hooks. Both hooks have to attach in order for it to work. The dog was moving to unpredictably to be considered viable.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cpthowdy:
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They didn't shoot the dog cause he was filming them, they shot him cause the owner failed to restrain the animal correctly and it attacked them.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
God help us all from all the retarded ass comments.

The shoot itself is justified. The officer placed himself in harms way to protect his partners who were handling taking a subject into custody.

He wasnt previewed to what had transpired prior nor the legality of the stop. He eliminated the threat that was presented to him pure and simple.

As far as why they placed him in handcuffs etc well thats a different argument. The mere fact of going into handcuffs does not constitute an arrest. I cant hear what is being said when the officers walked up but it appears that if the guy really wanted to avoid contact he could have simply gotten into his car and left. I mean he had enough time to put his dog away. He chose to come back to the "problem".

Again my only issue with this is the question why he was contacted in the first place.

Pick up a legal resource book before you make idiotic comments.
Detaining him was wrong. It caused the situation. The guy was clearly a moron, wasting his time to take some half ass footage from half a block away. But he broke no laws. And the piggys wanted to come start shit anyways! I hope some day somebody uses inappropriate force with those pigs. Handcuff them and kill something they love!
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by cpthowdy:
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They didn't shoot the dog cause he was filming them, they shot him cause the owner failed to restrain the animal correctly and it attacked them.
It's hard to properly restrain a dog when being handcuffed for...................... Who knows what. For being annoying I guess? That's ok now? Then there are plenty of cops who can be arrested and pets shot down! They are annoying pricks who got canned one too many times in the hallway.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by cpthowdy:
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They didn't shoot the dog cause he was filming them, they shot him cause the owner failed to restrain the animal correctly and it attacked them.
It's hard to properly restrain a dog when being handcuffed for...................... Who knows what. For being annoying I guess? That's ok now? Then there are plenty of cops who can be arrested and pets shot down! They are annoying pricks who got canned one too many times in the hallway.
He knew he was going to be detained, why did he put the dog in the car in the first place? He wasnt in handcuffs until after the dog was put in the car, thats when he should have put the windows up or strap him in. Bad owner.
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cpthowdy:
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The cops are not listening in on your phone calls
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
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Originally posted by cpthowdy:
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They didn't shoot the dog cause he was filming them, they shot him cause the owner failed to restrain the animal correctly and it attacked them.
It's hard to properly restrain a dog when being handcuffed for...................... Who knows what. For being annoying I guess? That's ok now? Then there are plenty of cops who can be arrested and pets shot down! They are annoying pricks who got canned one too many times in the hallway.
He knew he was going to be detained, why did he put the dog in the car in the first place? He wasnt in handcuffs until after the dog was put in the car, thats when he should have put the windows up or strap him in. Bad owner.
He didn't know he was being detained at that time. He just knew police were coming to talk. I guess your right, he should have known the pigs wouldn't work within the laws.
Dog was fine till they put cuffs on him for no reason. Bad cops.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
 
Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
Now that ive watched it with sound lol now i know why he was contacted and detained. If that was his stereo blasting usher right gawd damn next to a whole sleuth of marked police cars at a raid, warrant service, fleeing felon, etc...then he was lawfully detained no doubt. The instigating camera phone was just an annoying tick gnawing at you, but the stereo was a free for all detain the shit outta him..again, terrible situation for the dog but that was some dumbass civil rights exercising there...i can only see the amount of shots fired as an issue in court, maybe.

[ 2013-07-03, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: fredfifty ]
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.

[ 2013-07-03, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: MaK_1967v8 ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
Well said Mak [patriot]
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
He didn't do anything illegal. Problem with authority? No, problem with abuse of authority. He is allowed by law to do what he did. Why use your discression as an officer to detain somebody within the confines of the law? If he wasn't supposed to be here, then they should of had a larger perimeter blocked off. He was 50 yards from those officers when they decided to make contact.

To top if off, he was too much of a coward to finish what he started. "No no, let's let the owner and everybody else watch the dog die slowly, my testees won't allow me to fire another shot."
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
And like I said, the d-bag was a wasting his time recording there. I agree the guy is stupid. You wouldn't catch me recording a raid from a distance for no reason.

However, if I was trusted to uphold the law I would not let some jackass irritate me to the point of poor judgment. He didn't need to be cuffed. Simple.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
There is a structure of laws that tells us what is right. The fact that somebody would side with the officers on this would tell me that they too cannot set aside feelings and really look at the situation. You are just incapable. And that's ok.
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
don't expect cops to take chances when it comes to their safety
 
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
Well said Mak [patriot]
Yes the subject has a right to exercise his free will but by law, when you resist, delay or obstruct an officer of his or her duties you are committing a crime. I feel bad for the dog but the subject wanted that attention, it is not hard to turn around and walk away.
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66_5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
Well said Mak [patriot]
Yes the subject has a right to exercise his free will but by law, when you resist, delay or obstruct an officer of his or her duties you are committing a crime. I feel bad for the dog but the subject wanted that attention, it is not hard to turn around and walk away.
I don't see anything good that can come out of purposely trying to obstruct and distract officers while they're just trying to do their jobs especially those dangerous situations
 
Posted by MaK_1967v8 (Member # 12187) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
He didn't do anything illegal. Problem with authority? No, problem with abuse of authority. He is allowed by law to do what he did. Why use your discression as an officer to detain somebody within the confines of the law? If he wasn't supposed to be here, then they should of had a larger perimeter blocked off. He was 50 yards from those officers when they decided to make contact.

To top if off, he was too much of a coward to finish what he started. "No no, let's let the owner and everybody else watch the dog die slowly, my testees won't allow me to fire another shot."
wait a minute... you think he's abusing his authority/power/badge and you want him to execute the dog? People, and animals survive gun shot wounds to the head. It would've just opened an even bigger can of worms had he walked up to it and just blasted it in the head. to be honest? the dude has some big jewels to even lay off a few shots like that in that kind of situation.

[ 2013-07-04, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: MaK_1967v8 ]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Nobody just walked up and blasted the dog, the dog attacked some cunt she freaked and shot the dog.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
The response here is chilling! Couple of things:

1.) I'm a dog owner and an animal lover. I've had animals in my family most of my life. It was difficult to watch that dog go through the pain that it did, especially with the owner watching. As someone that cares about their dog, I protect my dog. I keep them on a leash to both protect my dog from other people and to protect other people from my dog. If I put my dog in the car, I make sure my dog can't jump out of the window.

You may know that your dog is the friendliest dog in the world, but others don't know that. And many people are scared of dogs, especially large dogs, especially large dogs that are approaching them in an aggressive manner with no leash. It's not difficult to see that those officers were in a hostile situation. When I was watching that video, I thought to myself, oh oh, if that dog gets loose, this could get ugly (I have no doubt that those officers thought the same thing. And based on the reaction of the audience, they thought the same thing too). It then wasn't a surprise that the dog approached the officers aggressively and the officers reacted. And it was preventable if the owner wasn't irresponsible! He could have restrained the dog better, and he could have cleared the area knowing it was a hostile situation rather than sticking around and adding to the problem.

2.) We have developed this culture of testing limits, testing bounds, getting confrontational with authority and teetering that line because, "we aren't breaking any laws, so F you Mr. Officer, what are you going to do to me punk?" Police officers are human, they can make mistakes. When put in hostile situations where they feel unsafe, they can react impulsively. I'm not saying it's right, but it can lead to a dead dog or worse.

Too many of these controversial police acts that divide us are a result of the individual not cooperating, adding to the hostility of the environment, testing limits, simply not being smart, etc.

Cooperate! Get out of the way of police work. Don't be confrontational, especially if you aren't involved, keep your animals restrained and most of these issues will be prevented. Also, some of these officers aren't veterans. They are youngsters who lack experience. Protect yourself by being smart!

And most of all, challenging police officers in the heat of the moment is NEVER a good idea. Stand clear. Don't be the cool guy, it's not the time. Save that for later.

[ 2013-07-04, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66_5.0:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by MaK_1967v8:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
If you defend that group of cops, your a fucking moron.

It's not the judgment on taking the shot that's the worse part. It's the fact that this happened because they wanted to flex nuts on somebody that was annoying them. The guy was a d-bag for standing there with his phone. But I know I'm mature/man enough to let something like that go. Wait till he crosses your perimeter then go put cuffs on him.
Did you have a rough life growing up? Problems with authority? So, when you're asked to leave and mind your own business you sit there with your thumb up your ass and kick it because you think its Ok? Cool. you sir, are the Moron.

Have some god damn common courtesy. I don't care if they're cops, civilians or whatever. You post up on someone's Business with a phone set on record, blasting music, ( shit song at that ) and refuse to leave after being asked multiple times to, with an excuse as "civil rights allow me to be here" you're acting like a total ass hat. The dude is 52 years old and is still a moron.

There's no power trip here. No ball busting. Just a total moron with a dog and didn't follow simple instruction. end of story.
Well said Mak [patriot]
Yes the subject has a right to exercise his free will but by law, when you resist, delay or obstruct an officer of his or her duties you are committing a crime. I feel bad for the dog but the subject wanted that attention, it is not hard to turn around and walk away.
How did he resist, delay or obstruct? He was 50 yards from the nearest fucking officer. He was in the way of NOTHING. He was simply annoying. That's it, he was guilty of being an annoying D-bag.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
After viewing again, your right, looks like 35-45 yards. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
Show us your gift all knowing wise one, lololol. Did you just learn the word comprehension and understanding because you seem like you really have no clue what they mean or how to use them within proper context. Just cause some people can easily separate the FACT that dude didn't restrain his dog is what lead to the cops shooting it, doesn't mean we have no clue how to compute the digital images placed forth in our brains from the video posted. Now if you want to say we're a bunch of jackasses and are wrong then that's just your opinion but the facts are the facts. Get over it and stop calling everybody dumb, except for don lol.
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
Show us your gift all knowing wise one, lololol. Did you just learn the word comprehension and understanding because you seem like you really have no clue what they mean or how to use them within proper context. Just cause some people can easily separate the FACT that dude didn't restrain his dog is what lead to the cops shooting it, doesn't mean we have no clue how to compute the digital images placed forth in our brains from the video posted. Now if you want to say we're a bunch of jackasses and are wrong then that's just your opinion but the facts are the facts. Get over it and stop calling everybody dumb, except for don lol.
Again, since you can't get it. The dog doesn't have to be restrained if he's not being detained without reason.
How about somebody jogging their with there dog? How about if a cop detains them without reason, would you blame them for not being able to restrain the dog while being cuffed?
No probably not, because they shouldn't be cuffed for simply jogging. Same thing here, no laws broken. Just cops flexing nuts.

[ 2013-07-04, 01:28 PM: Message edited by: Arch ]
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
Oh by the way, you obviously have no idea what comprehension means. It is " the act or action of grasping something with intellect."

Something that Hidnos and yourself are not doing.
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
Show us your gift all knowing wise one, lololol. Did you just learn the word comprehension and understanding because you seem like you really have no clue what they mean or how to use them within proper context. Just cause some people can easily separate the FACT that dude didn't restrain his dog is what lead to the cops shooting it, doesn't mean we have no clue how to compute the digital images placed forth in our brains from the video posted. Now if you want to say we're a bunch of jackasses and are wrong then that's just your opinion but the facts are the facts. Get over it and stop calling everybody dumb, except for don lol.
Again, since you can't get it. The dog doesn't have to be restrained if he's not being detained without reason.
How about somebody jogging their with there dog? How about if a cop detains them without reason, would you blame them for not being able to restrain the dog while being cuffed?
No probably not, because they shouldn't be cuffed for simply jogging. Same thing here, no laws broken. Just cops flexing nuts.
If a jogger is being detained and the jogger's dog does the same thing this dog did, THE SAME SHOULD BE REPEATED
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
Oh by the way, you obviously have no idea what comprehension means. It is " the act or action of grasping something with intellect."

Something that Hidnos and yourself are not doing.
Dictionary.... You should buy one.... Your teachers and peers failed you miserably, sorry [Frown]
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
Oh by the way, you obviously have no idea what comprehension means. It is " the act or action of grasping something with intellect."

Something that Hidnos and yourself are not doing.
Dictionary.... You should buy one.... Your teachers and peers failed you miserably, sorry [Frown]
1 a : the act or action of grasping with the intellect : understanding b : knowledge gained by comprehending.

Straight from Merriam-Webster moron!
[patriot]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
Show us your gift all knowing wise one, lololol. Did you just learn the word comprehension and understanding because you seem like you really have no clue what they mean or how to use them within proper context. Just cause some people can easily separate the FACT that dude didn't restrain his dog is what lead to the cops shooting it, doesn't mean we have no clue how to compute the digital images placed forth in our brains from the video posted. Now if you want to say we're a bunch of jackasses and are wrong then that's just your opinion but the facts are the facts. Get over it and stop calling everybody dumb, except for don lol.
Again, since you can't get it. The dog doesn't have to be restrained if he's not being detained without reason.
How about somebody jogging their with there dog? How about if a cop detains them without reason, would you blame them for not being able to restrain the dog while being cuffed?
No probably not, because they shouldn't be cuffed for simply jogging. Same thing here, no laws broken. Just cops flexing nuts.
You're always responsible for your dogs actions regardless if you're being detained or not. It's called accountability, look that one up in the websters dictionary. The guy was clearly obstructing justice with his display of disrespect of the police's work space. I don't sit by the deep fryer at McDonalds and disturb you at your job, why is someone fucking with the cops during an investigation? Only an idiot would do that and only an idiot would defend that person.

How was he able to put the dog in the car before he got cuffed? He didnt to a complete job, its like when you cook my fries half way, you know i'm gonna send them back and have you recook them right? In this instance the dog jumped out and attacked. Cops, yourself, George zimmerman all have a right to defend themselves. FUCK THAT DOG OWNER!
 
Posted by Arch (Member # 5177) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by Arch:
For the record, I'm not one of the members here that live in the ghetto hating police. I have family in law enforcement as well as friends.

This one really gets to me though. The guy was within every right and he couldn't have possibly been considered "in the way".
You are as off on your repeated measurement of "50 yards" as you are on your input about the situation
You have an inability to take in the situation. Like I said, it's ok. Comprehension and understanding is a gift not given to all. [patriot]
Show us your gift all knowing wise one, lololol. Did you just learn the word comprehension and understanding because you seem like you really have no clue what they mean or how to use them within proper context. Just cause some people can easily separate the FACT that dude didn't restrain his dog is what lead to the cops shooting it, doesn't mean we have no clue how to compute the digital images placed forth in our brains from the video posted. Now if you want to say we're a bunch of jackasses and are wrong then that's just your opinion but the facts are the facts. Get over it and stop calling everybody dumb, except for don lol.
Again, since you can't get it. The dog doesn't have to be restrained if he's not being detained without reason.
How about somebody jogging their with there dog? How about if a cop detains them without reason, would you blame them for not being able to restrain the dog while being cuffed?
No probably not, because they shouldn't be cuffed for simply jogging. Same thing here, no laws broken. Just cops flexing nuts.
You're always responsible for your dogs actions regardless if you're being detained or not. It's called accountability, look that one up in the websters dictionary. The guy was clearly obstructing justice with his display of disrespect of the police's work space. I don't sit by the deep fryer at McDonalds and disturb you at your job, why is someone fucking with the cops during an investigation? Only an idiot would do that and only an idiot would defend that person.

How was he able to put the dog in the car before he got cuffed? He didnt to a complete job, its like when you cook my fries half way, you know i'm gonna send them back and have you recook them right? In this instance the dog jumped out and attacked. Cops, yourself, George zimmerman all have a right to defend themselves. FUCK THAT DOG OWNER!
Obstructing justice? What a joke. Take that to the joke of the day thread.
Wouldn't have needed to defend themselves had they not made poor decisions to detain somebody because of their anger.

Since you mention it, I am on Zimmermans side. He was the victim.
 
Posted by BLK35th (Member # 4685) on :
 
Does anyone have any insight on what was going on in the house? Or why the officers were there in the first place?

As I read on, I see a lot of "What" happened. When we really should be discussing "WHY" this happened.

Like I said earlier...this was 100% avoidable.
Why is the owner acting all hard and "HOOD" during the original video?
Why is he trying to act kind and innocent during this video:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1466773308001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGBdRAo~,t2cIYZUexJ2HLdBYSBIAhhF2g1dnagVO&bctid=2520804003001
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BLK35th:
Does anyone have any insight on what was going on in the house? Or why the officers were there in the first place?

As I read on, I see a lot of "What" happened. When we really should be discussing "WHY" this happened.

Like I said earlier...this was 100% avoidable.
Why is the owner acting all hard and "HOOD" during the original video?
Why is he trying to act kind and innocent during this video:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1466773308001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAGBdRAo~,t2cIYZUexJ2HLdBYSBIAhhF2g1dnagVO&bctid=2520804003001
What a little bitch. I wish I could slap the shit out of him for max
 




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