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Posted by 90coupe50 (Member # 10848) on :

Really want to do this swap to a foxbody, anybody here know somebody who is capable of doing this swap and has done it before just trying go the right path with this, thanks for the help

Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :

Coyote swap > LSJuan swap

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

pm me with any questions. ive built a lot of them. and i have a lot of parts if your interested

Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :

Ls1bruh...Lsx ftmfw

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
Coyote swap > LSJuan swap

+1 just go buy a crapmaro you won't have to swap shit.

Posted by SUMO (Member # 8553) on :

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
Coyote swap > LSJuan swap
+1 just go buy a crapmaro you won't have to swap shit.

What he said sell the mustang and buy a crapmaro

[ 2013-06-16, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: SUMO ]

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SUMO:

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
Coyote swap > LSJuan swap
+1 just go buy a crapmaro you won't have to swap shit.
What he said sell the mustang and buy a crapmaro

If your going to slow the car down with a ls-jaun, you might as well have the rest of the pos car to go with it. [patriot]

Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by SUMO:

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
Coyote swap > LSJuan swap
+1 just go buy a crapmaro you won't have to swap shit.
What he said sell the mustang and buy a crapmaro
If your going to slow the car down with a ls-jaun, you might as well have the rest of the pos car to go with it.

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :

Seriously I thought about this swap before but it seemed like too much money for the swap for the results I have seen, motors didn't seem to last long before they needed a rebuild.

Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 98 ROUSH:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by SUMO:

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:
Originally posted by Greasy:
Coyote swap > LSJuan swap
+1 just go buy a crapmaro you won't have to swap shit.
What he said sell the mustang and buy a crapmaro
If your going to slow the car down with a ls-jaun, you might as well have the rest of the pos car to go with it.
+1

Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :

If you can't figure out how to get a mustang fast with ford parts do the car a favor and sell it and get a catfish

Posted by TEXAS (Member # 11875) on :

Where did you get your motor from?

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Don't listen to the purists.

Stuff the LS1 in there if you are up for the challenge and don't look back.

Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TEXAS:
Where did you get your motor from?

+1 a lot of guys doing that on here

[ 2013-06-16, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: SwEeT03Gt ]

Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :

Another waste of a foxbody.

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Don't listen to the purists.

Stuff the LS1 in there if you are up for the challenge and don't look back.

Well he will have to look back for #7 piston, as it's bouncing down the street. [Big Grin]

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Don't listen to the purists.

Stuff the LS1 in there if you are up for the challenge and don't look back.
Well he will have to look back for #7 piston, as it's bouncing down the street.

that's the truth
stock ls1 block can only handle 600+hp for so long...

Posted by AR_Stang (Member # 10223) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 5.0 LsX:

quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Don't listen to the purists.

Stuff the LS1 in there if you are up for the challenge and don't look back.
Well he will have to look back for #7 piston, as it's bouncing down the street.
that's the truth
stock ls1 block can only handle 600+hp for so long...

My friends 600+ camaro has been running hard for well over 2yrs.

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

Just do it...been building mine for months and its almost done...ordering cam today....if you can stay away from the ls1 and find a lower mile 6.0L there is way more of them at wrecking yards than the aluminum 5.7L....and cheaper..

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 90coupe50:
Really want to do this swap to a foxbody, anybody here know somebody who is capable of doing this swap and has done it before just trying go the right path with this, thanks for the help

Check out the different ways people build them over on ls1tech.com under the conversion hybrid section...ther is a couple on the carburated section also...check um out..

Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :

Someone wants to go fast

Posted by AR_Stang (Member # 10223) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:
Just do it...been building mine for months and its almost done...ordering cam today....if you can stay away from the ls1 and find a lower mile 6.0L there is way more of them at wrecking yards than the aluminum 5.7L....and cheaper..

This! Get yourself an iron 5.3/6.0 and boost it! [worship]

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

ill be selling my whole stock ls1/t56 setup in the near future, also have my old short block that needs rings. have a trans cross member for fox/t56 and a bunch of performance parts for sale

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :

Ok, let's hear this how quick are these lsx swaps, how long do they last, and how much? I already seen a stock Z06 with 80K miles break the LS7 into little pieces, I still have the oil mess on my trailer when I towed the Z06 home. I seen a NA stock block SBF 347s running low 11s and high 10s, my old stock block SBF 310 motor with a 200 shot is running 9.5xs, but what's cheaper time you do the conversion into a Foxbody and what's the results?

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Ok, let's hear this how quick are these lsx swaps, how long do they last, and how much? I already seen a stock Z06 with 80K miles break the LS7 into little pieces, I still have the oil mess on my trailer when I towed the Z06 home. I seen a NA stock block SBF 347s running low 11s and high 10s, my old stock block SBF 310 motor with a 200 shot is running 9.5xs, but what's cheaper time you do the conversion into a Foxbody and what's the results?

very vague question, but the bare blocks arnt the weak link, usually the pistons or rods go first. stock ls1 swap in a fox should get you to high 11's, and 27mpg freeway

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 5.0 LsX:

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Ok, let's hear this how quick are these lsx swaps, how long do they last, and how much? I already seen a stock Z06 with 80K miles break the LS7 into little pieces, I still have the oil mess on my trailer when I towed the Z06 home. I seen a NA stock block SBF 347s running low 11s and high 10s, my old stock block SBF 310 motor with a 200 shot is running 9.5xs, but what's cheaper time you do the conversion into a Foxbody and what's the results?
very vague question, but the bare blocks arnt the weak link, usually the pistons or rods go first. stock ls1 swap in a fox should get you to high 11's, and 27mpg freeway

With a 6 speed. You can do the same if you put a 6 speed in a sbf fox. Hell my na carb'd 623hp motor got 23mpg with a 5 speed and 373's.. No efi no double over drive. [patriot]

Hell same motor on a 3200lbs car with only 4:10s went 10.48 @ 131 with 91 pump gas and a damn near stock suspension car. You ls1 nut swingers keep bragging about how great they are. But you aren't doing anything I haven't Done 10+ years ago with all Ford stuff. [patriot]

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

your right, nothing you cant do w/ a ford motor. I ended up doing it because I had most of the parts, and at that time it would have cost more to build my 351w, and when I did it (5+ years ago) it wasn't very common. but I was very pleased and surprised w/ the power, handling and reliability. drove to reno, Tahoe, la and sandiego countless times with pretty much no maintenance. and w/ 650/650rwhp I was getting about 23mpg also

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :

I don't care about gas mileage, I want to hear about the cost of the conversion into a Foxbody and the track times at Sacramento so were can compare locally, I haven't seen a Foxbody with a LS1 run high 10s without a power adder at Sacramento, I have seen Drew with his heavy 94GT run high 10s with a 347 without a power adder, I have seen 2000blackgt and 86-50 run low 11s with a 347 without a power adders. Here is the guy who went 9.5xs with a SBF 310 and a 200 shot with a Maximum Motorsport Torque Arm. He bought a complete 310 motor without a carb, a Hughes C4 and Longtubes from me for $4K, all he did was buy a carb and a NOS kit and went 9s.

[ 2013-06-17, 11:14 AM: Message edited by: racsirx ]

Posted by AR_Stang (Member # 10223) on :

I know of a guy that went 10.9s cam only on a catfish. Then went deep 9s on spray.

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :

quote:
Originally posted by AR_Stang:
I know of a guy that went 10.9s cam only on a catfish. Then went deep 9s on spray.

Ok but I want to see it a Foxbody and how much it cost so I can compare

[ 2013-06-17, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: racsirx ]

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

cost can be all over the place...if you can get a swap for a fair price and go carb it can be done pretty cheap. start talking built motor, trans and fuel injection and you wont want to know what you have in it

Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:

quote:
Originally posted by AR_Stang:
I know of a guy that went 10.9s cam only on a catfish. Then went deep 9s on spray.
Ok but I want to see it a Foxbody and how much it cost so I can compare

It'll never be cheaper than your red coupe was.

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

Not only do you have to buy all the lsx stuff you still have to buy a k-member, xmember, wiring harness N who knows what else. Just to what go slower than a stock bottom end H/C/I SBF. Am I the only one that thinks its pointless? Yes I know you CAN make them fast but all that money you spend just in a stock LS1 conversion I'm shure you can buy a dart block then the money you were gonna use to build the LS1 you can use for the dart N have a bullet proof BEAST murdering LS7's or whatever they go up to.

Posted by 5.0 LsX (Member # 10017) on :

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Not only do you have to buy all the lsx stuff you still have to buy a k-member, xmember, wiring harness N who knows what else. Just to what go slower than a stock bottom end H/C/I SBF. Am I the only one that thinks its pointless? Yes I know you CAN make them fast but all that money you spend just in a stock LS1 conversion I'm shure you can buy a dart block then the money you were gonna use to build the LS1 you can use for the dart N have a bullet proof BEAST murdering LS7's or whatever they go up to.

this x100000
if your doing it because you think its a cheap swap, or you will be able to go faster for less, that's not the case

Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :

Man Ive been sayin this for a while that it seeems pointless....to much money.......I never thought I'd actually agree with young ass neight on sonething lol.....none taken from the ls motor caise it is bad ass but yea

Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :

I'd like to build a 67-69 Camaro and throw a Ford motor in it just to beat these guys at their own game.

[ 2013-06-17, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: SLOWBACK 67 ]

Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 5.0 LsX:
your right, nothing you cant do w/ a ford motor. I ended up doing it because I had most of the parts, and at that time it would have cost more to build my 351w, and when I did it (5+ years ago) it wasn't very common. but I was very pleased and surprised w/ the power, handling and reliability. drove to reno, Tahoe, la and sandiego countless times with pretty much no maintenance. and w/ 650/650rwhp I was getting about 23mpg also

I understand the ls swap if you have everything free or laying around. No brainer there. The reason why you used to see so many old school cars with 350/350 Chevys. They are/were dirt cheap, and you could get parts any/every where. Any motor can be fast & reliable or get good mpg. It only cost money. I just never understand people that swear it's cheaper and you will go faster with a ls-jaun based fox. It's just not true.

@ Slowback67. A nice 67 with a boosted 5.8l would be so fucking boss!

[ 2013-06-17, 12:51 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]

Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :

^ Or a BBF with TT...... Build a ford powered F body like Nelson's does in so cal. [patriot]

Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :

Ls1bruhhhh ftw

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I don't care about gas mileage, I want to hear about the cost of the conversion into a Foxbody and the track times at Sacramento so were can compare locally, I haven't seen a Foxbody with a LS1 run high 10s without a power adder at Sacramento, I have seen Drew with his heavy 94GT run high 10s with a 347 without a power adder, I have seen i2000blackgt and 86-50 run low 11s with a 347 without a power adders. Here is the guy who went 9.5xs with a SBF 310 and a 200 shot with a Maximum Motorsport Torque Arm. He bought a complete 310 motor without a carb, a Hughes C4 and Longtubes from me for $4K, all he did was buy a carb and a NOS kit and went 9s.

If my LS stock shortblock stock heads cam only don't go 10's on motor its for sale...I just think its all on how you see it and how much you pay for a motor...I got mine for 2 gz with harness and computer...and everthing else is somthing you would buy to build your car ford or Chevy powers...trans stall headers intake ect..ect..

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I don't care about gas mileage, I want to hear about the cost of the conversion into a Foxbody and the track times at Sacramento so were can compare locally, I haven't seen a Foxbody with a LS1 run high 10s without a power adder at Sacramento, I have seen Drew with his heavy 94GT run high 10s with a 347 without a power adder, I have seen i2000blackgt and 86-50 run low 11s with a 347 without a power adders. Here is the guy who went 9.5xs with a SBF 310 and a 200 shot with a Maximum Motorsport Torque Arm. He bought a complete 310 motor without a carb, a Hughes C4 and Longtubes from me for $4K, all he did was buy a carb and a NOS kit and went 9s.

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
Not only do you have to buy all the lsx stuff you still have to buy a k-member, xmember, wiring harness N who knows what else. Just to what go slower than a stock bottom end H/C/I SBF. Am I the only one that thinks its pointless? Yes I know you CAN make them fast but all that money you spend just in a stock LS1 conversion I'm shure you can buy a dart block then the money you were gonna use to build the LS1 you can use for the dart N have a bullet proof BEAST murdering LS7's or whatever they go up to.

You really don't need a k member...but even if you do you guys buy them for your Ford motors also...the cost to put HCI on a SBF is probably the same price as a LS motor....and if you were building a car you would spend the money on a trans exhaust ect..ect..just like we need for the swap..

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I'd like to build a 67-69 Camaro and throw a Ford motor in it just to beat these guys at their own game.

Gypsy mike down in so cal did this ford guy at heart...

Posted by lsfoxbody (Member # 8820) on :

i just did this swap to mine its taken me 6 months and about 5k i did ls1 with a t-5 witch i will be swaping out for a tko

Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:

quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I'd like to build a 67-69 Camaro and throw a Ford motor in it just to beat these guys at their own game.
Gypsy mike down in so cal did this ford guy at heart...

Was that the TT 302 that was in hot rod years ago?
I think it was a comp orange 69 if memory serves me right.

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:

quote:
Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:

quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
I'd like to build a 67-69 Camaro and throw a Ford motor in it just to beat these guys at their own game.
Gypsy mike down in so cal did this ford guy at heart...
Was that the TT 302 that was in hot rod years ago?
I think it was a comp orange 69 if memory serves me right.

Not sure on that but I know his recent one is a all motor SBF ......you can prolly find it on youtube...

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

Search gypsy mike...

Posted by SLOW95GTS (Member # 10365) on :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nmHh-PpSoM

lsx vs. sbf

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SLOW95GTS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nmHh-PpSoM

lsx vs. sbf

That's his stang but he has a camaro with a SBF..

Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SLOW95GTS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nmHh-PpSoM

lsx vs. sbf

That "supercar" got SMOKED and it broke down! FTL

Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:

quote:
Originally posted by SLOW95GTS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nmHh-PpSoM

lsx vs. sbf
That "supercar" got SMOKED and it broke down! FTL

Supercar!!!!! Look at that big tire race car...

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:

Does that say LS nation....I'm just sayin tho...

Posted by SwEeT03Gt (Member # 10283) on :

quote:
Originally posted by fastgms-lsnova:

quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT03Gt:

Does that say LS nation....I'm just sayin tho...

They dont like em either lol

Posted by fastgms-lsnova (Member # 9411) on :

Lol....real shit LS motors make power...and 80's and 90's mustangs have a platform you cant pass up....they flat out work and have a nice look....so why not go fast in a nice looking light car...not sayin you can't go fast with a Ford motor but the LS is a hell of a motor...people swap motors in anything to go fast no matter make or model..

Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :

http://youtu.be/VQPGnsVzGtg

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