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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on
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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on
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Seriously! I got mine to protect my family, thats for sure!
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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Problem is guys like cobraracer wouldn't go for it, a few months ago the Obama administration received a request from a liberal civil rights group asking for School Police officers to be taken out of public school because they are armed.
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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Great idea, but the wobblies would never allow it.
Looks like an M2 carbine.
[ December 15, 2012, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: John91coupe ]
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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Its a good idea BUT think of all the teachers that think its ok to have sex with their students, do you want those idiots to have guns?
What we need is atleast 1 armed police officer at every school, everyday. Its their job to protect and serve and they have to go through a mental health screening and all kinds of training with guns, where teachers don't.
Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on
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In california??? Maybe when hell freezes over..
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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Yea that's great put a gun in classroom full of kids.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Yea that's great put a gun in classroom full of kids.
Just think, if 1 of those 6 adults that were killed had a gun.. Maybe we wouldn't have 20 dead kids..
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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Originally posted by losbadgts:
Yea that's great put a gun in classroom full of kids.
Just think, if 1 of those 6 adults that were killed had a gun.. Maybe we wouldn't have 20 dead kids..
Yes u are right in that sense. But just think a bunch kids knowing that there is a gun in every class room and it only takes one kid to get it and fire it thinking its cool.
Posted by cpthowdy (Member # 10055) on
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Guns in school is a bad idea period, more trouble then good. it doesn't matter if its security or educators who carry them. It's like a double edged sword.
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on
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Makes me highly consider home schooling...
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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Makes me highly consider home schooling...
Best idea. Most parents that decide to home school are pretty intelligent themselves and the kids will be smarter then average, plus safer, plus out of the clutches of mega liberal teachers and self serving teacher's unions.
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on
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Dumb question... Is there such a thing as locked doors? If the shooter couldn't get inside...Then maybe this wouldn't have happened?
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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Changes need to be made but comparing a war zone to a suburb in Connecticut is not the solution.
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on
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In order to protect our kids, first we as a nation need to fuck up the NRA and the GOD Damn mother fuckin republican party.
There are way too many guns floating around in our country and guns are way too easy to get. It is unacceptable when in this country, it is more complicated to rent a fucking car and it is to go get a fucking handgun.
We as a nation need to have some super tight gun control legislation in place. Super tight legislation that'll make any potential gun buyer go through a fucking mountain of paperwork and and extensive background check lasting for months along with an extensive mental evaluation along with mandatory gun training that must be done every year or else you will lose your gun and to top it off the gunowners will be the ones who will foot the bill for this new extensive background check process.
Fuck the fuckin GOD damn NRA for they are fucking terrorist organization and fuck the NRA for blocking any kind of gun legislation that this country obviously needs now. Fuck the god damn mother fucking Republican Party too.
My heart still bleeds for those poor innocent children and teachers who were butchered by that fucking piece of shit shooter. I hope you fucking shooter, the NRA and the Republican Party rot in fucking hell!!!!!
Posted by migs66/92 (Member # 4811) on
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Cobra racer.....^^^wow!!!!!!
You sir are the biggest fucking idiot i have ever seen....
Why dont you the world a favor and jump off the golden gate..
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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Fuck the fuckin GOD damn NRA for they are fucking terrorist organization and fuck the NRA for blocking any kind of gun legislation that this country obviously needs now. Fuck the god damn mother fucking Republican Party too.
Your a fucking TOOL.
The NRA is far from being a terrorist organization.
Posted by Boss 327 (Member # 9143) on
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How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on
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How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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Originally posted by Boss 327:
How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
The type of anger you display is typical of personalities like Adam Lanza? Just saying
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on
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From Morgan Freeman... Again I fail to see how a gun with NO personality can by itself kill someone. Its the person and they couldve done it in many ways.
http://www.examiner.com/article/morgan-freeman-on-adam-lanza
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by 75 chevy:
Dumb question... Is there such a thing as locked doors? If the shooter couldn't get inside...Then maybe this wouldn't have happened?
I was reading that he shot out the window to reach in and unlock the door. The school had a security system in place that engaged at 930am the time of the attack.
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by Boss 327:
How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
The type of anger you display is typical of personalities like Adam Lanza? Just saying
So I should not be feeling very angry that some fuckin piece shit just murdered a bunch of little kids and school teachers?!!
I cant even look at photos of the people were killed; It angers me that so many good people had their lives extinguished. My those people rest i peace.
The fuckin NRA has blood on their hands. The wreckless NRA agenda of no gun laws and having guns everywhere is killing people.
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by Boss 327:
How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
The type of anger you display is typical of personalities like Adam Lanza? Just saying
So I should not be feeling very angry that some fuckin piece shit just murdered a bunch of little kids and school teachers?!!
I cant even look at photos of the people were killed; It angers me that so many good people had their lives extinguished. My those people rest i peace.
The fuckin NRA has blood on their hands. The wreckless NRA agenda of no gun laws and having guns everywhere is killing people.
Well, it's convienient that you use the murder of these children to justify your deep seated anger but the truth is that you display this type of anger almost always. You really should seek counciling for it. I'm being serious.
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by Boss 327:
How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
The type of anger you display is typical of personalities like Adam Lanza? Just saying
So I should not be feeling very angry that some fuckin piece shit just murdered a bunch of little kids and school teachers?!!
I cant even look at photos of the people were killed; It angers me that so many good people had their lives extinguished. My those people rest i peace.
The fuckin NRA has blood on their hands. The wreckless NRA agenda of no gun laws and having guns everywhere is killing people.
Don't ban cobracockrider, we need a reminder of how stupid left wingers are. Before the bodies are even in the ground they are quick to share their agenda with everybody. Remember in china the same fucking day some dude knife killed 22 kids, more than what happened in conn with a dude with a gun. The weapon of choice is not the problem.
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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Originally posted by Boss 327:
How is this guy not banned yet? I know SVTP gave his ass the boot.
Why do think I should be banned from CAfords?
The type of anger you display is typical of personalities like Adam Lanza? Just saying
So I should not be feeling very angry that some fuckin piece shit just murdered a bunch of little kids and school teachers?!!
I cant even look at photos of the people were killed; It angers me that so many good people had their lives extinguished. My those people rest i peace.
The fuckin NRA has blood on their hands. The wreckless NRA agenda of no gun laws and having guns everywhere is killing people.
No I feel anger for fucking people like you. That use the death of these people to push your stupid ass ideas! I guess you want fps games banned also. You know this guy played those also. Fuck you you Piece of shit! You want me to link all the deaths of children in china from knife attacks I can. You think a mentally ill person would not use something besides a gun? How retarded are you? Damn I guess next thing you are going to say is out law bombs. Cause you know someone might use one to blow something up!
[ December 15, 2012, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: warhorse58gt ]
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on
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Fuck my life, why hasn't Matt Castro ran this nut sack over on bike to work day yet?
Posted by RedBaron (Member # 4361) on
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Can some of you guys PLEASE stop drawing penis guns on cobraracer's picture, and help him use his "special abilities" keyboard typing skills to research the level of gun violence and crime in "pro gun" vs. "anti-gun" states?
Yep, those darn places with fewer firearms restrictions sure do have better crime statistics, ya know?
Heck, the Brady foundation looked at gun laws, state by state, and listed Cali as #1, aka the best place to lose your second amendment rights.
On the bright side, here in Ca., you can completely depend on the local law enforcement to draw a nice chalk outline for you. And the crime tape comes in comvenient 500 ft. roles, to minimize the knots in the tape.
Connecticut was #5- Im not sayin', Im just sayin'...
Virginia Tech, located an a fairly pro-gun state, is and was a "gun free zone". Obviously, the nut with a firearm ignored that rule.
Oikos university sure as hell wasnt too safe here in Ca., now was it....
Let's expand to other countries- how about those gun laws in Mexico- you know, the zero ownership/ zero tolerance laws? I bet those thousands of poor dead souls sure wished they had the ability to defend themselves before they were murdered, dont you?
Oh well, I guess Im in the market for more firearms now, since the constipated types like Mr. racer are out to steal my rights... again...
Posted by RedBaron (Member # 4361) on
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Don't ban cobracockrider, we need a reminder of how stupid left wingers are. Before the bodies are even in the ground they are quick to share their agenda with everybody. Remember in china the same fucking day some dude knife killed 22 kids, more than what happened in conn with a dude with a gun. The weapon of choice is not the problem. [/QB]
Thank you sir, for another obvious point to this idiot's rant- matter of fact, England, another super safe anti firearm country, is having one HELL of a time controlling knife violence.
Oh, and here's another fun thing to think about-
Go take a look at how many abortions were performed, and compare that to the gun violence numbers.... yup, might have to outlaw medical professionals, cuz those guys are lethal 100% of the time!
Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on
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Dianne Feinstein, Don Peralta, Nancy Pelosi, etc., have a Concealed Carry Permit. Hmmm, "Don't say as I do, Do as I say" ring familiar to anyone?
[ December 17, 2012, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: *Als50* ]
Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on
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I admit. I am a newb on the subject and I do agree wholeheartedly that gun registration should be geared toward screening the person owning the gun versus just using a blanket statement and saying guns should be eliminated completely. All the guns in my home(2 glocks and 1 sig) are my dad's (hand me downs that I have been using for years) so I am assuming they will have to be eventually transferred to me (with me applying for the test/paperwrk/whatever/10 day wait).
So my question is how is a potential gun buyer screened? I know this does not apply to someone getting their gun(s) illegally or using a parent's gun (i.e. Conn. heinous crime). Is there any screening? I mean a felon would probably not pass the guidelines, correct?
Again..my apologies..newb here and I don't have all the information.
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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So how would one teacher stop a killing? Her focus is to teach a class. And if she were to carry a fun, how is she able to stop being over powered by lunatic students? Ever went to school in the hood? They don't care about the teacher, how would she stop her class from over powering her and taking her weapon? Then using that same weapon against the teacher or other students. The only solution I see is to fine tune the system that elementary school was using so that it works. Locked doors, screened windows, and an armed "trained" guard or two at every American school.
Posted by SSF_5.0_WARRIOR (Member # 10170) on
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Originally posted by racsirx:
So how would one teacher stop a killing? Her focus is to teach a class. And if she were to carry a fun, how is she able to stop being over powered by lunatic students? Ever went to school in the hood? They don't care about the teacher, how would she stop her class from over powering her and taking her weapon? Then using that same weapon against the teacher or other students. The only solution I see is to fine tune the system that elementary school was using so that it works. Locked doors, screened windows, and an armed "trained" guard or two at every American school.
Just taught I'd chime in, almost all individuals in Israel must provide military service right out of high school. They have some exceptions, but on average all men do 3 years and women do 2 years. It's law there. These would not be your average teachers, most of their citizens have some sort of military training. People carry rifles in the streets like it's a normal thing.
Maybe if we forced most citizens here to provide some sort of service we would be more protected and capable of executing this sort of security over children here in the US. It would probably also help to not have as many lazy asses.
I work for an Israeli funded company and I have met many Israelis. Pretty smart people and you could tell their military training is an advantage.
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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on
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Well, I heard on the News today that Texas is considering letting teachers carry a gun
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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*TEXAS* The new emerging America!
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on
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I'd like to fly out to Texas and see how I like it out there..... If things in Ca keep getting worse. Higher taxes, more gun bans & CARB... I'd be forced to pull up stakes a vote one more time in a Ca election..... with my feet.
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on
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I am from Texas, I think on going back, but just gets too hot for me, can't beat California weather.
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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I am not from Texas...but I am thinking of moving there. What's Austin like?
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on
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I am not from Texas...but I am thinking of moving there. What's Austin like?
Come to the Dallas area, just make sure your A/C is working before summertime!
I thought I was going to move back to California but I'm staying here for awhile. My car turns 25 this summer, no more smog for me!
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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I am not from Texas...but I am thinking of moving there. What's Austin like?
Come to the Dallas area, just make sure your A/C is working before summertime!
I thought I was going to move back to California but I'm staying here for awhile. My car turns 25 this summer, no more smog for me!
I'm also looking to get away from cold weather. it's 22 degrees in Grass Valley right now. Doesn't it get cold in Dallas? Like even snow? I thought Austin was a bit on the warmer side. College town too.
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on
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Originally posted by Greasy:
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Originally posted by John91coupe:
I am not from Texas...but I am thinking of moving there. What's Austin like?
Come to the Dallas area, just make sure your A/C is working before summertime!
I thought I was going to move back to California but I'm staying here for awhile. My car turns 25 this summer, no more smog for me!
I'm also looking to get away from cold weather. it's 22 degrees in Grass Valley right now. Doesn't it get cold in Dallas? Like even snow? I thought Austin was a bit on the warmer side. College town too.
It snowed a little bit last Monday I still went in the garage and worked, two years ago it snowed for four days and that's rare. Yesterday it was 77* lol
[ December 19, 2012, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: Greasy ]
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on
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Austin is very nice, I like the food better in San Antonio, I am from San Antonio but isn't too far away, you will like the 85mph speed limit, if you ever been over to AED in Shingle Springs, it reminds me of that part of Texas. I like New Braunfels area, isn't too far away but after that is not much to see, not like here.
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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So much about Texas is appealing. They really seem to embody what I consider the American spirit. California has gone just the opposite way and I'm getting sick of it. I'll need to do more investigation into San Antonio and Austin. I think that 85 speed limit is between those 2 cities, right?
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on
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This is the kind of temperature I'm looking for. Probably no drag strips in Tahiti though.
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on
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Yes the 85mph speed limit is between Austin and San Antonio, I don't know about Austin since I've only visited but you won't get those average temps around the Dallas area. It's 66* right now with 22mph winds a high of 73* and a low of 35*.
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