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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Isn't that the truth. I see immigrants who can't speak a lick of English sitting at the grocery store with carts filled to the brim while loading it in their new 2012 focus all while I sit here working my ass off and going to school barely cutting it and they sit in their nice house 'raising' 7 kids to do the same thing.

[ December 14, 2012, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: Robb ]
 
Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 
lol off topic but why would someone want to cross over to north korealol
 
Posted by Stang66 (Member # 10504) on :
 
I hate any type of federal aid in general, [patriot]
I like to work for my things
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a302juGRnot:
lol off topic but why would someone want to cross over to north korealol
Fuckin' Apple Maps got me lost again. GREAT!
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
u must be talking about Cubans, Asians n Salvadoreans
 
Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
Sometimes us Hispanics do the jobs Americans just won't do but u got a point their at my job I work as a plumber in new homes and everyone else I see around me is Hispanic and make pretty nice 500,000 homes I think they deserved some props
 
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87 coupe:
Sometimes us Hispanics do the jobs Americans just won't do but u got a point their at my job I work as a plumber in new homes and everyone else I see around me is Hispanic and make pretty nice 500,000 homes I think they deserved some props
^^^^thats rasict^^^^
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87 coupe:
Sometimes us Hispanics do the jobs Americans just won't do but u got a point their at my job I work as a plumber in new homes and everyone else I see around me is Hispanic and make pretty nice 500,000 homes I think they deserved some props
Lol WOW
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87 coupe:
Sometimes us Hispanics do the jobs Americans just won't do but u got a point their at my job I work as a plumber in new homes and everyone else I see around me is Hispanic and make pretty nice 500,000 homes I think they deserved some props
theres work here for americans yet no one really last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZojJszoBXgI

i'd say 50/50 lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4gzps0lm1E

[ December 15, 2012, 02:29 AM: Message edited by: SwEeT 03 Gt ]
 
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
so farms will close, cost of food will go up just cause Americans dont want to work the fields? i find it more disappointing that Americans would rather ask for change outside of a 7/11 or liquor store then seeing undocumented workers making an honest living and better life for there family. everyone here besides native Americans came here illegally or unwillingly


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKm_3GHDmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibJUb8tjrT0&feature=endscreen&NR=1

[ December 15, 2012, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: SwEeT 03 Gt ]
 
Posted by Anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :
 
You forgot free cell phones
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
Hate to say it but every time this is posted it becomes more of a cliché...

So what if we do all the jobs that no one else wants to do? How else do you think u get 100 white-T's at whole sale for 99cents each and sell them for $4.99 retail at the liquor store...

Sheeeeeyit!
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SwEeT 03 Gt:
so farms will close, cost of food will go up just cause Americans dont want to work the fields? i find it more disappointing that Americans would rather ask for change outside of a 7/11 or liquor store then seeing undocumented workers making an honest living and better life for there family. everyone here besides native Americans came here illegally or unwillingly


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwKm_3GHDmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibJUb8tjrT0&feature=endscreen&NR=1
I'm not racist but it is simple economics, Americans would work the fields given the opportunity but why would a farmer hire an American and pay him 5 dollars a day and pay taxes on him AND now pay healthcare for him when that farmer can hire and illegal under the table for 1 dollar a day and not pay anything on him.
The "we do work Americans won't do" excuse is played out and false.
 
Posted by Chilangoworrior00GT (Member # 11344) on :
 
I know many "illegal" people not working in fields, they are studying in college getting a degree, just saying
 
Posted by 06ragtopgt_SOS (Member # 11327) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Robb:
Isn't that the truth. I see immigrants who can't speak a lick of English sitting at the grocery store with carts filled to the brim while loading it in their new 2012 focus all while I sit here working my ass off and going to school barely cutting it and they sit in their nice house 'raising' 7 kids to do the same thing.
I know the feeling quite well and understand your position, ive been there. But you know damn well you've seen non immigrants doing the same thing. But I also know immigrants who work 16 hours a day for minimum wage or even less and so does their spouse and the sister and brother in law who they share a house with, just so they can afford to buy all those groceries and pay for that car. I was born here in sac and so were my parents, but we are proud mexicans. My dad was able to raise me and my brothers real well thanks to his six figure income, which in my opinion isnt too shabby for a high school drop out. It wasnt handed to him, he busts his ass for it. But thats how we as a culture are raised, we arent afraid of hard work. While im aware that not all immigrants are mexican and theres exceptions to every rule and lazy leeches of all ethnicities. The bottom line is people come here to EARN a better life for their family, and we dont expect jack shit to be handed to us.

[ December 15, 2012, 05:40 AM: Message edited by: 06ragtopgt_SOS ]
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
I just understand why people who come here illegally get a better deal than our homeless, makes me wish I was an illegal sometimes, my dad was an illegal in the the late 60s, they gave him a choice fight in the Vietnam War or get deported.
 
Posted by LETHL 03 (Member # 5401) on :
 
I came to the U.S. illegal along with my entire family, been working hard all my life to have what I have and no one in my family has ever got food stamps or any free money.

Lets not forget that cali was once part of Mexico, so us mexicans are trying to take it back lol jk jk [Big Grin]
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
The issue started a long time, when people from other countries would come to this country for labor and they could cross the border legaly all day long and the usa didn't mind. Overtime those people made this country their home and build this country to great country that it is. Now a days if you cross the border here and get caught u get jail time and penalties for ten years. Everyone thinks it so easy to cross here. Inform yourselves before u open your mouth
 
Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I just understand why people who come here illegally get a better deal than our homeless, makes me wish I was an illegal sometimes, my dad was an illegal in the the late 60s, they gave him a choice fight in the Vietnam War or get deported.
I dont think they get a better deal off the back, they get up and make something out of nothing. Most homeless people are addicted to drugs or alcohol. That addiction keeps them homeless, rather then thinking about the future they just think about their next fix or beer.
The whole blame illegal immigration taking my job is played out. If you have a job where an illegal immigrant can come over and take over your job,you must have a shitty job.

I would how ever agree that the whole paid education is bullshit, so what if this person gets a degree. They still cant get a job legally so its pointless.

Welfare has been abused by every nationality. There are american families that have generations on welfare/section 8 etc etc...

We need tighter border security. Tighter requirements for welfare eligibility. Time limits for welfare. The list can go on and on but nothing will change because the people in charge of this country and state need this people to stay in office.
 
Posted by 1sickGT (Member # 9276) on :
 
Well said [worship] ^^^

[ December 15, 2012, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: 1sickGT ]
 
Posted by 1994steeda (Member # 6127) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by 87 coupe:
Sometimes us Hispanics do the jobs Americans just won't do but u got a point their at my job I work as a plumber in new homes and everyone else I see around me is Hispanic and make pretty nice 500,000 homes I think they deserved some props
^^^^thats rasict^^^^
This post is a racist period, it is indirectly pointing to people south of the boarder.

The solution is NOT boarder control, historically countries south of the USA have been victims of imperialism. If these countries could have a steady economy that does not depend on the US's, things might be different.

Frankly I'm say to say Mexico's immigration problem is the cause of many years of social problems, rich & poor gap, political corruption, drug trafficking, and many other issues. But with out proper education and other social programs(as the ones found in the USA). The Mexican government keeps their people oppressed period!

Boarder control is not a solution neither is war intervention over drugs. but these problems have escalded to the point that something needs to ge done. If people had the opportunity to have any paying job in Mexico where they could do more than just get by, they would not be seeking employment elsewhere.
Again I am just speaking on behalf of Mexico, I know the boarder problem taps in immigration from Central America, South America, Asia, Africa, and some European countries as well.

I think in short, the problem lies within that country's economy and whether they can provid thier citizens with an adequate life.

Maybe we should all migrate to China I know their economy is growing at a steady rate that could soon rival that of the US's....!
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
 
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
This is pretty true. I will see them begging for work, any work... even washing windshields at the gas station... but I rarely see them begging for a handout.

and I don't agree with the theory that illegals do the jobs Americans won't... Illegals do these jobs, for wages that Americans can't... because unlike most illegals, US citizens pay taxes... could you imagine making what an illegal makes AND paying a portion to the government? So the government could then hand that money out to some lazy ass...
 
Posted by 1994steeda (Member # 6127) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
This is pretty true. I will see them begging for work, any work... even washing windshields at the gas station... but I rarely see them begging for a handout.

and I don't agree with the theory that illegals do the jobs Americans won't... Illegals do these jobs, for wages that Americans can't... because unlike most illegals, US citizens pay taxes... could you imagine making what an illegal makes AND paying a portion to the government? So the government could then hand that money out to some lazy ass...
Great response! [worship]
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
Well minimum wage is 8/hr. that's what they get paid . But u can't forget also US citizens get unemployment when illegals can't.. Also can't forget the "coyote" charge going anywhere from 3 to 5,000$ depending how u want to get here
 
Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
I'm not racist guys just what I see a lot and homeless are just plain lazy or like this other member said drug addicts I dnt have nuthing against no one not even homeless I always give to the ones in need always I got nuthing else to say peace out..
 
Posted by General Butt Naked (Member # 4831) on :
 
Illegal immigrants contribute to the country's budgets and programs as pay sales taxes.


quote:
Originally posted by 1994steeda:
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
This is pretty true. I will see them begging for work, any work... even washing windshields at the gas station... but I rarely see them begging for a handout.

and I don't agree with the theory that illegals do the jobs Americans won't... Illegals do these jobs, for wages that Americans can't... because unlike most illegals, US citizens pay taxes... could you imagine making what an illegal makes AND paying a portion to the government? So the government could then hand that money out to some lazy ass...
Great response! [worship]

 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
This thread reminds me why People who watch FOX news and vote republican are foolish.

The argument in this thread is that if you come into this country illiegally, you will still get benefits from the government and because immigrants are receiving government assistance, the united states of America is in debt.

It's bull shit.
Remember that under the Clinton administration, America had a budget surplus, and when the Republicans took control of the white house, the bush and ministration started two wars and paid for them with America's credit card and that is why America is now in debt.

By the way why is it that non-native Americans are the ones who always seem to bitch the loudest about people comming illegally into this country?

[ December 15, 2012, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: cobraracer46 ]
 
Posted by COBRA50 (Member # 11614) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87 coupe:
I'm not racist guys just what I see a lot and homeless are just plain lazy or like this other member said drug addicts I dnt have nuthing against no one not even homeless I always give to the ones in need always I got nuthing else to say peace out..
Nicely said [patriot]
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
Well minimum wage is 8/hr. that's what they get paid . But u can't forget also US citizens get unemployment when illegals can't.. Also can't forget the "coyote" charge going anywhere from 3 to 5,000$ depending how u want to get here
150 dollars to 5k. They normally charge more for non-Mexicans.
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
This thread reminds me why People who watch FOX news and vote republican are foolish.

The argument in this thread is that if you come into this country illiegally, you will still get benefits from the government and because immigrants are receiving government assistance, the united states of America is in debt.

It's bull shit.
Remember that under the Clinton administration, America had a budget surplus, and when the Republicans took control of the white house, the bush and ministration started two wars and paid for them with America's credit card and that is why America is now in debt.

By the way why is it that non-native Americans are the ones who always seem to bitch the loudest about people comming illegally into this country?
If you go with the blame game and how each President adopts the problems of the President before then all of Bush's problems were from Clinton and Clinton did so good because of what Bush Senior and Reagan did.
 
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
 
Posted by 88gtstang (Member # 10370) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
i live in sac and all homeless people i see are americans aka gueros that just stand in a corner or a light asking for money shit why dont they go work for a couple of cents some even have their family with them.. when have you seen a hispanic with his family asking for money till this day havent seen one... go rent a day without mexicans and see what usa would come too! VIVA LA RASA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
on the south side
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
on the south side
I seen a family of hispanics in front of the McDonalds on laguna blvd in Elk Grove begging for money with their kids.
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 88gtstang:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
i live in sac and all homeless people i see are americans aka gueros that just stand in a corner or a light asking for money shit why dont they go work for a couple of cents some even have their family with them.. when have you seen a hispanic with his family asking for money till this day havent seen one... go rent a day without mexicans and see what usa would come too! VIVA LA RASA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can get by, there's plenty of other hispanics besides mexicans plus there are the european mexicans (russians) running around willing to work.
 
Posted by 87 coupe (Member # 10919) on :
 
Whoe cares guys if their is or aint Hispanics or Americans asking for money this ain't a war or anything like that can we all just get along!!!!! [Frown]
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
What sucks I have family members that went to school here with school visa paid for the school have degrees, but can't work in there field just cause they can't get legal. While we have citizens living of the goverment, homeless etc not taking advange of the rights to become someone.
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
Not that I agree with it but do you blame them? Mexico is a shit hole 3rd world country.
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1994steeda:
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
This is pretty true. I will see them begging for work, any work... even washing windshields at the gas station... but I rarely see them begging for a handout.

and I don't agree with the theory that illegals do the jobs Americans won't... Illegals do these jobs, for wages that Americans can't... because unlike most illegals, US citizens pay taxes... could you imagine making what an illegal makes AND paying a portion to the government? So the government could then hand that money out to some lazy ass...
Great response! [worship]

 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by SETONKILL:
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
No offense but I never seen a Hispanic guy outside a liquor store begging for change instead I always see them working in the fields with me and no I'm not an illegal jus easy money
that is a lie an you know it that.i have seen many hispanic begging for money if front of liquor stores more then once in the town you live in
Really? We're at? I live in te south side of Stockton and I go to almost all the liquor stores and have never seen a mexican asking for change ?
on the south side
I seen a family of hispanics in front of the McDonalds on laguna blvd in Elk Grove begging for money with their kids.
There's a difference and more than one kind of hispanic: Mexicans kill mothafuckers. And central americans sue white people...
 




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