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Originally posted by 75 chevy:
How do you find the time to sit in a classroom?

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Originally posted by fam_lace:
Im in class rite now reading this mess lol I say college matters alot I choose to go back to school @ 26 and wish I did it earlier

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Originally posted by StangCity510:
It depends on what you trying to do. I went to college and found out that it wasn't for me. I say find a trade and go to school for that its faster.

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Originally posted by venomous99:
this seems to pop up every few months.
the simple answer is YES (assuming you get as much out of the experience as you can get and then apply yourself once youre out). ppl seem to think that once u get a degree somehow that perfect job will fall into the palms of your hand. reality check, a degree will improve your changes of landing the interview over one who is less qualified but ultimately it comes down to you once youre in the war room being interviewed.

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Couldn't have been said any better... I'm usually the one Brigid it up every few months!! Lol...
 

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Posted by MACK.GT (Member # 10461) on :
 
I say its worth it , I went back to school a year ago in order to change careers, and also to save money and get better at my hobby . When I'm at work and get to feeling sick of it, or the pay , customers attitudes, or whatever , I just think about how I'm in school, and doing something, every week ,to better my life.
 

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Posted by NotACop_281 (Member # 11498) on :
 
Wuttz skul eva did fo meh
I kid lol


Most people are only going to school to collect financial aid. Well most of the people iknw. I personally coulndt do it I hated high school and couldn't dream of furthering my education. but that's just me.more power to anyone who has the patients to do so
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by NotACop_281:
Wuttz skul eva did fo meh
I kid lol


Most people are only going to school to collect financial aid. Well most of the people iknw. I personally coulndt do it I hated high school and couldn't dream of furthering my education. but that's just me.more power to anyone who has the patients to do so

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I'm at work and want to have something interesting and funny to read throughout the day.... So the question is, is college worth it? I say yes. Many will disagree and that's fine. My father never went to college, shit he had a damn GED but also went to plumbing school and got a job with the city and bought his own house out here. Very rare for a black man with a GED to purchase a house in a non-ghetto neighborhood...

If you disagree please have some proof like that. I will laugh if you say you have $8k in the bank and a GT40 foxbody lol

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

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Originally posted by NotACop_281:
Wuttz skul eva did fo meh
I kid lol


Most people are only going to school to collect financial aid. Well most of the people iknw. I personally coulndt do it I hated high school and couldn't dream of furthering my education. but that's just me.more power to anyone who has the patients to do so

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It's clear in your spelling you didn't do well in school..... Your spelling isn't the only thing you missed out on by not furthering your education......

My answer, yes, it is worth it.

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I'm at work and want to have something interesting and funny to read throughout the day.... So the question is, is college worth it? I say yes. Many will disagree and that's fine. My father never went to college, shit he had a damn GED but also went to plumbing school and got a job with the city and bought his own house out here. Very rare for a black man with a GED to purchase a house in a non-ghetto neighborhood...

If you disagree please have some proof like that. I will laugh if you say you have $8k in the bank and a GT40 foxbody lol

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YES, college is worth it.

I'll use the plumbing trade as an example. I currently work for a plumbing & mechanical contractor. I have an Engineering degree, and have taken classes similar to what an Apprentice needs to take. So, on paper, a plumber and I know the same when it comes to the plumbing field (not taking into account the knowledge gained with experience in the field). The difference between a plumber and a guy with a degree is, I'm able to run a job, from a management stand point, while a plumber would only be used for his plumbing duties.

The Potential growth for a guy with a degree working in the plumbing field is great (moving up in management) , while the growth for a (typical) plumbers ends at being a Journeyman. While we may know the same knowledge, the worth a guy with a degree is much higher then a guy without.

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Nice answer.. However your slightly wrong.. I know plenty of foremen without college degrees who run the jobs for the water department in the city. They promote from with based on test scores....still someone with a college degree is WORTH more to a private company.
 

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Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.
 

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Posted by NotACop_281 (Member # 11498) on :
 

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.

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+1
 

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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Plain and simple, YES. Stay in school and finish as early as possible.

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Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Yes.
 

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Posted by Smoked50 (Member # 9592) on :
 
The way I look at it is I'm gonna end up opening a couple businesses in the near future, so what's the difference if I go to school or not go to school? What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway? To me it seems like a waste of time that I could be using saving money for my business. This is a serious question btw. Anyone feel free to answer
 

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Posted by Sco Cuddie (Member # 6757) on :
 

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Originally posted by cali95gt:

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I'm at work and want to have something interesting and funny to read throughout the day.... So the question is, is college worth it? I say yes. Many will disagree and that's fine. My father never went to college, shit he had a damn GED but also went to plumbing school and got a job with the city and bought his own house out here. Very rare for a black man with a GED to purchase a house in a non-ghetto neighborhood...

If you disagree please have some proof like that. I will laugh if you say you have $8k in the bank and a GT40 foxbody lol

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YES, college is worth it.

I'll use the plumbing trade as an example. I currently work for a plumbing & mechanical contractor. I have an Engineering degree, and have taken classes similar to what an Apprentice needs to take. So, on paper, a plumber and I know the same when it comes to the plumbing field (not taking into account the knowledge gained with experience in the field). The difference between a plumber and a guy with a degree is, I'm able to run a job, from a management stand point, while a plumber would only be used for his plumbing duties.

The Potential growth for a guy with a degree working in the plumbing field is great (moving up in management) , while the growth for a (typical) plumbers ends at being a Journeyman. While we may know the same knowledge, the worth a guy with a degree is much higher then a guy without.

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Nice answer.. However your slightly wrong.. I know plenty of foremen without college degrees who run the jobs for the water department in the city. They promote from with based on test scores....still someone with a college degree is WORTH more to a private company.

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Originally posted by Smoked50:
The way I look at it is I'm gonna end up opening a couple businesses in the near future, so what's the difference if I go to school or not go to school? What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway? To me it seems like a waste of time that I could be using saving money for my business. This is a serious question btw. Anyone feel free to answer

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It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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Originally posted by adower:
It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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I don't know your friend but they are idiots for majoring in English

Second they could still land plenty of jobs paying more. Where I work at now they don't care much what your degree was in just more so that you have one and aren't half retarded...

Regardless $50k a year is still better than the O so cool CaFords "$17 per hour" lol... Then he'd be making $35k a year
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 

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Originally posted by cali95gt:

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Originally posted by adower:
It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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I don't know your friend but they are idiots for majoring in English

Second they could still land plenty of jobs paying more. Where I work at now they don't care much what your degree was in just more so that you have one and aren't half retarded...

Regardless $50k a year is still better than the O so cool CaFords "$17 per hour" lol... Then he'd be making $35k a year

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u cant really fault someone though for taking on what their interest in as making money isnt everything and for some taking on a major which is known to pay more out of college may be outside of their learning capability and skill set. who knows..maybe dude was an excellent writer but couldnt add numbers for shiet or had retarded logic.

lol
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 

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Originally posted by cali95gt:

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Originally posted by adower:
It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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I don't know your friend but they are idiots for majoring in English

Second they could still land plenty of jobs paying more. Where I work at now they don't care much what your degree was in just more so that you have one and aren't half retarded...

Regardless $50k a year is still better than the O so cool CaFords "$17 per hour" lol... Then he'd be making $35k a year

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by adower:
It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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This is a different situation though. If your friends idea was to go to college and make good money, his mistake was picking English as a degree - not the idea of going to college.

And think about this, he IS able to find a job, although he is not satisfied with the salary. Imagine how many of those jobs wouldn't be available to him if he didn't go to college.

I'm sure that the college degree your friend holds gives him a better opportunity of landing these jobs.

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Originally posted by adower:

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by adower:
It depends on the degree. Engineering, math, science yes. Otherwise nope. I have a friend who just got out if davis with an english degree. Tons of debt and can only find a 50k yr job.

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This is a different situation though. If your friends idea was to go to college and make good money, his mistake was picking English as a degree - not the idea of going to college.

And think about this, he IS able to find a job, although he is not satisfied with the salary. Imagine how many of those jobs wouldn't be available to him if he didn't go to college.

I'm sure that the college degree your friend holds gives him a better opportunity of landing these jobs.

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That is my point. Some degrees are inferior.

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Originally posted by Smoked50:
The way I look at it is I'm gonna end up opening a couple businesses in the near future, so what's the difference if I go to school or not go to school? What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway? To me it seems like a waste of time that I could be using saving money for my business. This is a serious question btw. Anyone feel free to answer

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Because opening a business isn't always about supply/demand and buy low/sell high. There are a lot of factors to running a profitable business that the resources at school can teach you. There is a reason why Forbes 500 Businesses hire 'top of their class' students from well known schools.

"What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway?"

Why wouldn't you use it? If your goal is to open up a business, ideally your degree would support this business. You would ideally major in Business, Marketing, Math, etc., that will further enhance and support your abilities to maintain your business. Think about the HUGE amount of businesses that open each year, with goals to become the next big thing - then think about how many of those businesses are opened by a person without a degree - the percentage of those businesses closing is HUGE. A degree will counter that percentage by giving you the knowledge to maintain the business open.

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Originally posted by Smoked50:

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by Smoked50:
The way I look at it is I'm gonna end up opening a couple businesses in the near future, so what's the difference if I go to school or not go to school? What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway? To me it seems like a waste of time that I could be using saving money for my business. This is a serious question btw. Anyone feel free to answer

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Because opening a business isn't always about supply/demand and buy low/sell high. There are a lot of factors to running a profitable business that the resources at school can teach you. There is a reason why Forbes 500 Businesses hire 'top of their class' students from well known schools.

"What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway?"

Why wouldn't you use it? If your goal is to open up a business, ideally your degree would support this business. You would ideally major in Business, Marketing, Math, etc., that will further enhance and support your abilities to maintain your business. Think about the HUGE amount of businesses that open each year, with goals to become the next big thing - then think about how many of those businesses are opened by a person without a degree - the percentage of those businesses closing is HUGE. A degree will counter that percentage by giving you the knowledge to maintain the business open.

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I agree with you, but you can't say the reason for those businesses closing is because the person who opened it did or didn't have a degree, it's more because of the type of business that was opened. I know a lot of people that don't have degrees that are GM's of companies, owners of companies, owners of businesses, etc.

There is a reason why Forbes 500 Businesses hire 'top of their class' students from well known schools.

This is true but that's if you want to work for somebody or start off in a company and work your way up, I can't imagine myself working for somebody and I already know what type of business I want to own/run. The type of business I'm going to open doesn't necessarily require me to have a degree because I know everything there is to know about this business. In other words, going to school isn't going to teach me more than I already know about the type of business I'm planning on opening. I'm not saying school isn't a good thing but more so that it just isn't for me. But I'm only 19, plans might change.

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"The type of business I'm going to open doesn't necessarily require me to have a degree because I know everything there is to know about this business."

Everything there is to know about the business? You lost me there. Not throwing shots at you, but the business world evolves everyday.

Like I mentioned before, opening up a business isn't just about buying low and selling high but rather the understanding of what it takes to make a successful business run.

And a degree doesn't give you the opportunity to work for a company where "you want to work for somebody or start off in a company and work your way up." A degree give resources to an extensive amount of knowledge to be successful.

For example, while in school you learn how to create a business structure and how legal and tax implications are related to this structure. Where and what kind of business licenses and permit to obtain, and how this is directly and indirectly effected by your business structure, location, amount of employees, type of business, etc. Then, as a small business owner, you are subject to laws and regulations that large corporations are subject to also. Do you know these regulations? Tax limitations? HR responsibilities? You have certain tax filings that need to take place appropriately, etc etc.

It takes all this, plus more to start a successful business. Think you can get this done without school? Sure. But this is where school is important, to provide you with the resources needed.
 

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Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
In general it is worth it. But, one could make an argument that an Econ/Communications major will make less than a person without a degree. Besides the monetary reasons, college and dorm life is an experience that is worthwhile.
 

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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I have friends that are like Smoked50...didn't bother with college and thought they knew what it took to succeed in life. As a matter of fact, one of them swore he knew everything there was to starting an electronic business (I forget what his business plan was though). 7 yrs later, where is he? At home, at his mom's house, looking at me and only one other guy from our group of friends who went to college, got a degree, and have successful lives.

Whenever someone says "they know it all...." they really don't. In my opinion, those are the people who really SHOULD go to school.

Smoked50....I'm not doubting you, but you just seem overly confident.
 

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Posted by ILLMNRD86 (Member # 9987) on :
 
A College education is 100% worth it. With a college education it increases the likelihood of better pay/salary in whatever field you choose and thus leads to a better quality of life! Get an education! It is there to help you, and with as many grants available as there are, schooling is even that much more affordable then it has been in the past.
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Join the military
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 
Yes, College is worth it. I dont care what anyone says. Unless you want to settle for being mediocre and working 60+ hours a week breaking your back at a warehouse, Then go ahead. If you want to succeed and grow, get a degree and make decent money and still have time to enjoy your life and your kids.
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 

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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I have friends that are like Smoked50...didn't bother with college and thought they knew what it took to succeed in life. As a matter of fact, one of them swore he knew everything there was to starting an electronic business (I forget what his business plan was though). 7 yrs later, where is he? At home, at his mom's house, looking at me and only one other guy from our group of friends who went to college, got a degree, and have successful lives.

Whenever someone says "they know it all...." they really don't. In my opinion, those are the people who really SHOULD go to school.

Smoked50....I'm not doubting you, but you just seem overly confident.

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I also feel that the personal satisfaction of earning a degree has to count for something - knowing you applied yourself and pushed toward achieving a goal is something that'll make you proud of what you've accomplished.

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Believe it or not, this goes a long way when interviewing for a position. My hiring manager told me once, the first thing they look at is if a person has a college degree - ANY degree - because they want to see that the person is capable and motivated enough to finish something. Regardless how long it takes, they were ambitious and motivated enough to finish it. This means alot to an employer.
 

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Posted by BLK35th (Member # 4685) on :
 
College and High school are totally different things. Think of what the job market will be like in the next 20 years, when you think of college. I am in college, wish I started earlier, left the carpenter's union and started going to Community college at 22 for Radiology, then decided that it wasn't for me after 100 hours of volunteering.

Started volunteering in the spinal cord injury department, and fell in love with the atmosphere. Now I am in my last semester as an undergraduate of Kinesiology at SFSU. With this degree, mostly any field in graduate studies or Doctoral programs are open game in healthcare.

What I am trying to say is that, HELL YES college is worth it. Unless you want to keep doing the same thing all your life, and 20 years down the line from now, a youngster graduates college with a Bachelors in Business Administration (or any other related field) only to become your superior.

And for many that used high school as their experience for deciding on further education....I graduated with a GED from a continuation school. And I can tell you one thing, high school and college are completely different games.
 

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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
As I read through this post, I can notice a difference in typing/speaking styles between those who went to college, and those who did not/are against it
 

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Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
Education will always pay off in the long run. I have friends that run the entire gambit of education. I know people with GED's, BS, MBA's, Ph.D's and MD's. While those without a college degree can make good money in the trades, they generally worked a lot harder to get to that position and achieved it much later in life. They also generally have to put in more hours per week to earn the same amount of money as those who work a straight 40 and have a BS. My friends with MBA's generally make in the $150k-$200k range per year. Obviously the ones with the Ph.D and MD are making 1%er money.

Also, education isn't always about making money. Sure an English degree is probably not going to pay as well as a marketing degree, but sometimes it's about doing what you love. If teaching kids how to read and write is fulfilling to someone, that doesn't make the degree any less valuable. Obviously if you get a degree in underwater basketweaving and you think you're going to parlay that into an executive position at a Fortune 100 company, then you are clearly retarded.
 

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Posted by Robb (Member # 9444) on :
 

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Originally posted by phil a:


I also feel that the personal satisfaction of earning a degree has to count for something - knowing you applied yourself and pushed toward achieving a goal is something that'll make you proud of what you've accomplished.

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Believe it or not, this goes a long way when interviewing for a position. My hiring manager told me once, the first thing they look at is if a person has a college degree - ANY degree - because they want to see that the person is capable and motivated enough to finish something. Regardless how long it takes, they were ambitious and motivated enough to finish it. This means alot to an employer.

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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
As I read through this post, I can notice a difference in typing/speaking styles between those who went to college, and those who did not/are against it

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by Smoked50:

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Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:

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Originally posted by Smoked50:
The way I look at it is I'm gonna end up opening a couple businesses in the near future, so what's the difference if I go to school or not go to school? What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway? To me it seems like a waste of time that I could be using saving money for my business. This is a serious question btw. Anyone feel free to answer

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Because opening a business isn't always about supply/demand and buy low/sell high. There are a lot of factors to running a profitable business that the resources at school can teach you. There is a reason why Forbes 500 Businesses hire 'top of their class' students from well known schools.

"What's a degree gonna do for me if I'm not even gonna use it and open my own business anyway?"

Why wouldn't you use it? If your goal is to open up a business, ideally your degree would support this business. You would ideally major in Business, Marketing, Math, etc., that will further enhance and support your abilities to maintain your business. Think about the HUGE amount of businesses that open each year, with goals to become the next big thing - then think about how many of those businesses are opened by a person without a degree - the percentage of those businesses closing is HUGE. A degree will counter that percentage by giving you the knowledge to maintain the business open.

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I agree with you, but you can't say the reason for those businesses closing is because the person who opened it did or didn't have a degree, it's more because of the type of business that was opened. I know a lot of people that don't have degrees that are GM's of companies, owners of companies, owners of businesses, etc.

There is a reason why Forbes 500 Businesses hire 'top of their class' students from well known schools.

This is true but that's if you want to work for somebody or start off in a company and work your way up, I can't imagine myself working for somebody and I already know what type of business I want to own/run. The type of business I'm going to open doesn't necessarily require me to have a degree because I know everything there is to know about this business. In other words, going to school isn't going to teach me more than I already know about the type of business I'm planning on opening. I'm not saying school isn't a good thing but more so that it just isn't for me. But I'm only 19, plans might change.

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"The type of business I'm going to open doesn't necessarily require me to have a degree because I know everything there is to know about this business."

Everything there is to know about the business? You lost me there. Not throwing shots at you, but the business world evolves everyday.

Like I mentioned before, opening up a business isn't just about buying low and selling high but rather the understanding of what it takes to make a successful business run.

And a degree doesn't give you the opportunity to work for a company where "you want to work for somebody or start off in a company and work your way up." A degree give resources to an extensive amount of knowledge to be successful.

For example, while in school you learn how to create a business structure and how legal and tax implications are related to this structure. Where and what kind of business licenses and permit to obtain, and how this is directly and indirectly effected by your business structure, location, amount of employees, type of business, etc. Then, as a small business owner, you are subject to laws and regulations that large corporations are subject to also. Do you know these regulations? Tax limitations? HR responsibilities? You have certain tax filings that need to take place appropriately, etc etc.

It takes all this, plus more to start a successful business. Think you can get this done without school? Sure. But this is where school is important, to provide you with the resources needed.

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Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
As I read through this post, I can notice a difference in typing/speaking styles between those who went to college, and those who did not/are against it

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We have an image to uphold man, haha. Our point will be over-looked if we type all "ghetto", lol.

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Originally posted by SETONKILL:
i went to collge when i finsh high school an i was bored off my ass when i had to seat in class for more then a hour.so went in to the automotive feild an have made real good money an make a 100k plus a year an only work 35 to 40 hours an thats punch on the clock time.but probley do 25 to 30 hours off work but flag anywhere from 60 to 120 hours a week.

an one then i can tell after working for over 20 years following the money around thinking the next please will be better its not always the case some times the are worse then the old place you left

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Lol.. What?
 

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Posted by thrashed (Member # 9752) on :
 

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Originally posted by SETONKILL:
i went to collge when i finsh high school an i was bored off my ass when i had to seat in class for more then a hour.so went in to the automotive feild an have made real good money an make a 100k plus a year an only work 35 to 40 hours an thats punch on the clock time.but probley do 25 to 30 hours off work but flag anywhere from 60 to 120 hours a week.

an one then i can tell after working for over 20 years following the money around thinking the next please will be better its not always the case some times the are worse then the old place you left

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Lol.. What?

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Originally posted by thrashed:

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Originally posted by slow2v:

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Originally posted by SETONKILL:
i went to collge when i finsh high school an i was bored off my ass when i had to seat in class for more then a hour.so went in to the automotive feild an have made real good money an make a 100k plus a year an only work 35 to 40 hours an thats punch on the clock time.but probley do 25 to 30 hours off work but flag anywhere from 60 to 120 hours a week.

an one then i can tell after working for over 20 years following the money around thinking the next please will be better its not always the case some times the are worse then the old place you left

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Lol.. What?

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LOL! What x2?

College (and actually completing it) can open up a lot of opportunities and generally increases the capacity to make more money over your lifetime, but it's not always the right fit for everyone. Figuring out what you like to do (long term) and what makes you happy is also important. If college fits in those plans, go for it.

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Originally posted by venomous99:
if school aint for you, maybe u should consider a job in law enforcement or fire dept. many of these guys start at 80k and after a few years hit 120k+ and have healthy pensions.

if you're curious as to how much some ppl make, you can search mercury news for 2011 public workers salary to get an idea. folks at muni and bart as operators that make your decent $30/hr rake in as much as their base salary just by working so much overtime.
in comparison, your seasoned professional engineer working for the city pulls in 150k+ base. do tha research brah

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That's changing somewhat with law enforcement. At many agencies, a Bachelor Degree or Associate's Degree is preferred. Some officers have a Master's or Law Degree, although usually in the upper ranks. One of the most important functions of police work is the ability to write a clear, concise, and accurate report. Although it is not always the case, people with higher education tend to write better than those with just a diploma or GED.
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
Coming from someone who has been doing recruiting for almost 6 years for both non-technical and technical positions at agencies, start-ups, google, etc,...get a degree. Even if you get a low G.P.A., the fact that you have a degree will open up more windows of opportunity. The fact that one has a degree shows a certain amount of discipline to achieve it.

It took me 5+ years to get mine, as I was working 55-60 hours a week while going to school, but it was well worth it.
 

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Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 
college FTW.
 

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Posted by Carless (Member # 9119) on :
 

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.

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Thats not true, My brother didnt even graduate High School hes 23 and hes a Sales Manager at a dealership, making over 140k a year.

Im in the car business also and I only completed l.5 years of college. Im making about 90k a year. In another 6 months to a year Im expecting a management position and ill be up there with him making about the same.
 

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Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
Fuck College. It was cool when C.C was $8 a unit, but when the Terminator got elected- it tripled over night. 4 units per class u do the math. Full time student takes 3 classes.

I do air conditioning...
 

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Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
The answer is yes and no. Figure out what you want to do career wise and you'll know if college is right for you or not. You have to have some kind of goal to shoot for in life or else you're just aimlessly moving forward with no direction. Once you figure out what you want to do, master it and put 110% into it. The money will come if you're great at what you're doing.

What you need to worry about is when you're in your 50s and companies start spitting you out and bringing in your grads to take over your position . Plan wisely and think smart.
 

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Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by 166 Merlot:


I do air conditioning...

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Originally posted by Carless:

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.

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Thats not true, My brother didnt even graduate High School hes 23 and hes a Sales Manager at a dealership, making over 140k a year.

Im in the car business also and I only completed l.5 years of college. Im making about 90k a year. In another 6 months to a year Im expecting a management position and ill be up there with him making about the same.

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Originally posted by essasin:
College and dorm life is an experience that is worthwhile.

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I personally feel to mature for college and dorm life. I am exactly at my halfway point in getting a bachelors in finance and I hate school.
 

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Posted by BLoWN FR500 (Member # 8766) on :
 
SO ARE YOU COLLECTING VOTES ON TO GO TO SCHOOL OR NOT? I DONT GET THIS THREAD! OF COURSE COLLEGE IS WORTH IT! IS 100K A YEAR WORTH IT TO YOU.....OR NO? GET YOUR DEGREE, A NEW JOB & CALL IT A DAY
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
I guess it boils down to how smart you really are about making money. A degree can help you get smarter which isnt the worst thing for some of the dummies out there.
 

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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 

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Originally posted by BLoWN FR500:
SO ARE YOU COLLECTING VOTES ON TO GO TO SCHOOL OR NOT? I DONT GET THIS THREAD! OF COURSE COLLEGE IS WORTH IT! IS 100K A YEAR WORTH IT TO YOU.....OR NO? GET YOUR DEGREE, A NEW JOB & CALL IT A DAY

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Originally posted by Carless:

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.

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Thats not true, My brother didnt even graduate High School hes 23 and hes a Sales Manager at a dealership, making over 140k a year.

Im in the car business also and I only completed l.5 years of college. Im making about 90k a year. In another 6 months to a year Im expecting a management position and ill be up there with him making about the same.

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I don't know what dealership you work for, must be a high end one to make that much. I usually eat lunch where all the big name car salesmen eat at. They most def don't make anything near that....

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Originally posted by Carless:

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Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
If you want to make 100k+ a year working for a company. Yes you will most likely need a degree.

You also can make 100k+ a year by being your own boss & owning yours small business. But it better be something you love to do & can make money doing.

There are a lot of people who didn't go to college and have made a good life for themselves. It comes down to a little luck & motivation to better your life.

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Thats not true, My brother didnt even graduate High School hes 23 and hes a Sales Manager at a dealership, making over 140k a year.

Im in the car business also and I only completed l.5 years of college. Im making about 90k a year. In another 6 months to a year Im expecting a management position and ill be up there with him making about the same.

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I don't know what dealership you work for, must be a high end one to make that much. I usually eat lunch where all the big name car salesmen eat at. They most def don't make anything near that....

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Lol I work at a Toyota Dealership. Were a volume store, Your pay-plan is based on the units you sell. The more you sell, the more you make.

Garuntee if you sell more than 25 cars a month, you'll be making over 12k.

My brother is a sales manager, he makes about 10-12k a month. Granted some months are better than others. Im not saying college is no good, Im just saying there are oppurtunties to make 100k plus without going to school.

Obviously Im not saying dont go to college, Because I am planning on going back to get a business/marketing degree. Were planning on starting a business of our own and You cant expect to Own and operate a business by just "winging it".

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Originally posted by 04 S281:
One of the more important things about college isn't the education or degree... it's the people you meet.

That's why going to a good school is imperative... pledging a frat at a good school will make you connections that will benefit you for life. You'll meet guys who come from money, who will go on to run big family businesses. People who will go in to politics. People who will start their own businesses. People who will go into the regulatory field. You never really know how these connections could benefit you someday...

It's not what you know. It's who you know. You can go to a community college or state university... keep to yourself and get your degree... have a lot of references and experience... and someone could still get hired over you because of the good'ol boy network... because the head of hiring and the other applicant might be alumni of such and such frat.

Or you could start your own business... and some government regulation that effects your business could need to be enforced, and the enforcement official could know the owner of similar business to yours... guess who is going to get the short end of the stick? With my girl working at CARB, I know exactly how often this sort of thing happens. One business needs the competition to get taken down a peg, calls in a favor from a friend, and gets the opposing business a $1,000,000 fine.

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Although I agree with you that going to a "good" college is ideal, I went to San Jose state, commuted back home on a daiy basis, and didn't join a frat and I can tell you that I have more "connections" with people than a lot of people I know who went to "good" UC's and were in a frat/sorority. In my perspective, it's how you network and communicate with people, regardless if you went to a JC, UC, or state school. I had a long debate/discussion about this with a chick at work who swore that UC Davis was the shit. She still ain't got nothing on me and my shitty San Jose state degree lol! She's stuck where I used to work, doing bulllshit while I moved on to a better company with much better pay, all thanks to my connections all in all, college ftw...but I don't exactly think a "good" college is necessary (though I'm not saying to just get your AA at Chabot or anything!)

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
so the lesson learned here is hell the f yes, college is worth it as long as you make the best out of the experience and do the necessary research on finding a good fit for u in terms of your career goals.

college aint for everyone and thats not to say that you cant have a decent career w/out a degree but in general(and yes its a proven f*ckin statistic) that youll have an advantage in the work force over someone who doesnt have a degree and open up way more opportunities for yourself.


now stop beating a dead horse. f*ckin go to school, make a difference in the world and earn some cash.

 

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