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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
Not sure how factual this is but I know for a fact there is way too much of this going on. Just received this email.

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This is exactly why Mitt Romney said that 40 some % of the people are too dependent on the government. They have learned to work the system.


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From Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) Facebook.......... True story yesterday at the dealership.....

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can. One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work. She said well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury). She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check, she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 minutes free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month. When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work. If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country. Once the socialist have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished. The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal $by 10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."
 
Posted by topnotcht-top (Member # 9599) on :
 
WOW WHAT A F****** CUNT!!!!!!! SO THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT REASONS THEY RIP MY F****** HEAD OFF EVERY PAY CHECK!!!!!!!!! [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag]

[ November 26, 2012, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: topnotcht-top ]
 
Posted by cemelevu (Member # 10601) on :
 
I believe it. When I was selling cars, I had a gentleman come in wanting to buy a truck. He was a hard working construction worker. He filled out a credit app, I submited it to the finance company, and waited for a reply. The gentleman went to lunch while we waited for the answer. In the mean time, there was a family that came in, looking at that same truck. There was 5 separate members, all of which were on some kind of assistance from the government and I would say 3 of them should have been able to hold down some kind of job. The other salesman, took a credit app and submited it to the same finance co. Hand to god, the family on assitance got approved and the construction worker got denied. I reviewed both credit apps, and reports and their scores were similar, pretty much same type of credit history. I called the finance company to get an answer on why my guy got turned down, but the family got approved. Hand to god, the finance company came back and said that the construction workers income wasnt stable, and that he could end up not being able to pay in the future. I was pretty pissed, and didnt send the finance company a deal for quite a long time. I actually refered the guy to a competitor because they had a similar truck. I couldn't tell the guy why he got turned down, I just told him the other sales person sold it.
 
Posted by tonkaboyrich496 (Member # 9877) on :
 
Don't think story is true. Disability is based off a percentage of your wages when you worked. No way she gets $3500 when she only made a $1000 a month. Something isn't right.
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by tonkaboyrich496:
Don't think story is true. Disability is based off a percentage of your wages when you worked. No way she gets $3500 when she only made a $1000 a month. Something isn't right.

Disability portion is $1500. Probably some is federal some is company.

[ November 26, 2012, 04:57 PM: Message edited by: John91coupe ]
 
Posted by DEVERO2 (Member # 6155) on :
 
we are heading to hell in a hand basket on a rocket ship. I am glad that I can work so hard so that others dont have to.
 
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
I guess this explains why we see field workers driving 50 thousand dollar Cadillac Escalades while they live in the projects....
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
One of my techs comes to the hospital last year shortly after my accident while I'm still in the hospital and tells me he is no longer gonna work for my company because they offered him the same kind of deal...said he could not work and after taxes, come out 50 bucks a month ahead. He left last march.
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
Sickening to read that.
[BS flag]
 
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
I have job offered people who were unemployed who turned down positions because they make more on unemployment. I had an employee i hired ask me for less hours so unemployment would make up the difference on his checks. We make it to easy for people. I heard recently that the average family on government assistance receives 60k in free benefits a year. This shit is out of control!!!
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Explains why I lost out on like 50% of my bonus I got at work last week. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
This sucks but life does so o well... I believe in Karma. Eventually people who always try to get over get theirs.
 
Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
Our country is fucked.....some ppl abuse the system....its fuckin sad when ppl that dont do shit ruins things for ppl that actually make a living and is really need the help from the state....
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
I dont think u can get foodstamps and social security disability at the same time and section 8 I call bullshit on this story.
 
Posted by Anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :
 
Shit I got this dam hangnail that hurts like MFer. Think I'm gonna go get some free government money.
 
Posted by SLOWBACK 67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
I dont think u can get foodstamps and social security disability at the same time and section 8 I call bullshit on this story.

It is possible. People find every angle to work the system.

My parents own 2 rentals & I remember one woman was on section 8. Her portion of the rent was 200 a month. We the tax payers were paying the other 1000.00

She had an EBT card/food stamps. I didn't ask how much she received but can tell you a the time she had 3 kids and was pregnant with another.

Her PG&E was at a lower rate then us. Her average PG&E bill was less then 50 bucks a month.

I had to do some work under the house and also needed to come in the flip a breaker one time. She had a 70" tv with all the HBO,Showtime channels.

The only thing she didn't receive a check for was disability....... But in all seriousness she was receiving A LOT the money. Also working under the table for her mom babysitting Special Needs Children. [BS flag]
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
The system can definitely be manipulated. I know first hand of someone in NY who is receiving welfare payments, food stamps, section 8 housing support (to the tune of $1200 a month), reduced utility bills, and an Obama phone. Here's the kicker, he never paid a dime in taxes. All of his jobs (mostly house painting) were off the books. Yeah, it's a great country. You can throw up as many BS flags as you want but that's the straight up truth.
 
Posted by Ryan_LX (Member # 7089) on :
 
Better have your ammo and weapon count up, shits getting ready to hit the fan really soon. I wish The American people would wake the hell up!
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
great thread Woo-hoo! [patriot]

Makes me feel real good to work hard sanding bondo all day everyday...For $166 dollars after taxes! [Smile]

[ November 26, 2012, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: 75 chevy ]
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Some of the shit I've seen while on the job and the people I have come into contact with none of this stuff surprises me anymore, it will never stop because everyone gets some kickback here and there, just like when you see the people who run all the agencies who are supposed to work with the needy driving a mercedes or when you're at the store buying bread and Ms. EBT in front of you is talking on her cell phone getting steaks!
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
How do i get on this train!? i wanna ride it until it crashes.
Except i want to keep working cause i like my job but i could use an extra 3500 a month.

[ November 26, 2012, 11:53 PM: Message edited by: Wildfire532FB ]
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
How do i get on this train!? i wanna ride it until it crashes.
Except i want to keep working cause i like my job but i could use an extra 3500 a month.

LOL you have too much pride to ride that train brother, that's the problem with this country too huge of a rift between the guy who will bust his ass painting cars, working at the grocery store etc and the freeloaders who wouldn't take a job even if you handed them one.
 
Posted by stanger50 (Member # 1665) on :
 
I investigate Workmans comp insurance claims for a livng. Let me tell you, I investigated this illegal in Dublin. Was on the job as a tree trimmer for 3 weeks before pulling a workers comp claim. That was 7 years ago. I was able to nail his ass and got refutable video as he did his yard work for approximatly an hour. He will evenualy get his claim revoked.

Most likely, he will get another job for a few weeks before he does it all over again.

Got great video of this asshole jumping out of a lifted truck with an ankle injury after parking and diplaying a handicap plaque.

I hate fucking low life mother fuckers.
 
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nifty50:
I guess this explains why we see field workers driving 50 thousand dollar Cadillac Escalades while they live in the projects....

[worship]
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
a la verga...total los dias
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stanger50:
I investigate Workmans comp insurance claims for a livng. Let me tell you, I investigated this illegal in Dublin. Was on the job as a tree trimmer for 3 weeks before pulling a workers comp claim. That was 7 years ago. I was able to nail his ass and got refutable video as he did his yard work for approximatly an hour. He will evenualy get his claim revoked.

Most likely, he will get another job for a few weeks before he does it all over again.

Got great video of this asshole jumping out of a lifted truck with an ankle injury after parking and diplaying a handicap plaque.

I hate fucking low life mother fuckers.

I would LOVE to have that job [worship]
 
Posted by Venomousnotch (Member # 8695) on :
 
Wow that's some straight fucking [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] What a bunch of low lifes..All I gotta say to people like this is "GET A REAL FUCKING JOB"...
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by stanger50:
I investigate Workmans comp insurance claims for a livng. Let me tell you, I investigated this illegal in Dublin. Was on the job as a tree trimmer for 3 weeks before pulling a workers comp claim. That was 7 years ago. I was able to nail his ass and got refutable video as he did his yard work for approximatly an hour. He will evenualy get his claim revoked.

Most likely, he will get another job for a few weeks before he does it all over again.

Got great video of this asshole jumping out of a lifted truck with an ankle injury after parking and diplaying a handicap plaque.

I hate fucking low life mother fuckers.

Lol A member on here was fearing someone like you. But this person was really injured, he just didn't wanna get caught doing simple little jobs on his car so he just left it alone.
 
Posted by 1994steeda (Member # 6127) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:

. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

No dealer nor any work place has the right to say something like this...

It seems a made up story to me.
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1994steeda:
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:

. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

No dealer nor any work place has the right to say something like this...

It seems a made up story to me.

Why not, I would have asked the same question to her. In a work place I agree with you but the dealer has no restriction on him to say that to her. I see a lot of people with handicap stickers pulling into handicap parking spaces and jumpimg out of the car more easily then I can. I ask them why they have a sticker. Half the time the answer is go F yourself, the other half is, oh it's my handicap mothers car. Sometimes the person is actually handicap but lots of times thay aren't.

[ November 27, 2012, 02:25 PM: Message edited by: John91coupe ]
 
Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :
 
Many of these convicted felons and dope addicts are milking the system too. Alot of times they won't have picture identification to identify themselves, but they'll have their State of California Benefits Identification Card or their Golden State Advantage Card. At least the Identification Card has a name and birth date so you can run them for warrants.

It's hilarious. Part of my taxes are paying for either the oh-so brief incarceration of these idiots or to support them once they get outside and resume committing crimes.

[Whoo Whooooo!]

[ November 27, 2012, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: graylx ]
 
Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :
 
double post

[ November 27, 2012, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: graylx ]
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
makes me sick to read all this, and know theres people who aint got shit like this http://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo its worth watching shits crazy how they live out there"
 
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
My professor this morning went off on a little rant about how much working people pay into taxes to support lazy degenerates.

Well lets just say I made my opinion VERY clear about what I think about those leeches.
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SAV650HAB:
makes me sick to read all this, and know theres people who aint got shit like this http://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo its worth watching shits crazy how they live out there"

Holy fuckin' shit!!!!!
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:
quote:
Originally posted by SAV650HAB:
makes me sick to read all this, and know theres people who aint got shit like this http://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo its worth watching shits crazy how they live out there"

Holy fuckin' shit!!!!!
crazy shit huh? its a little long but like i said its worth to watch if you got time [patriot]
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
I just watched that whole video!!!
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
insanely intense... I feel like packing a bag! Those people need help. Fuck this country and the lazy asses. Those people shit where they eat. Eat human flesh and have zero money. FUCK!!!!!
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:
insanely intense... I feel like packing a bag! Those people need help. Fuck this country and the lazy asses. Those people shit where they eat. Eat human flesh and have zero money. FUCK!!!!!

im with you bruh, thats the same why i was thinking and felt after i watched it [patriot]
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SAV650HAB:
quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy: insanely intense... I feel like packing a bag! Those people need help. Fuck this country and the lazy asses. Those people shit where they eat. Eat human flesh and have zero money. FUCK!!!!!
im with you bruh, thats the same why i was thinking and felt after i watched it [patriot]
one more thing those guys had balls the size of elephants [Big Grin] for walking threw that water and going to that brothel [worship]
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
dude probably did catch something....he wasn't looking to good in the church.
 
Posted by SAV650HAB (Member # 10324) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 75 chevy:
dude probably did catch something....he wasn't looking to good in the church.

hahhahaha LOL hahhaha thats true"
 
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1994steeda:
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:

. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

No dealer nor any work place has the right to say something like this...

It seems a made up story to me.

There is nothing wrong with saying that, he didn't say it in an accusing manner.
 
Posted by 75 chevy (Member # 6717) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Wildfire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by 1994steeda:
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:

. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.

No dealer nor any work place has the right to say something like this...

It seems a made up story to me.

There is nothing wrong with saying that, he didn't say it in an accusing manner.
The lady responded.. saying that she wasn't really hurt... It was a friendly conversation.
 
Posted by 89foxstang (Member # 5908) on :
 
I think the attitude towards gov assistance had changed, I know when I was on unemployment I was a little embarrassed . when I got a job that barely paid more people where basically calling me an idiot for getting off it.. I do realize there is a place for unemployment but its too easy to stay on it .
 
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89foxstang:
I think the attitude towards gov assistance had changed, I know when I was on unemployment I was a little embarrassed . when I got a job that barely paid more people where basically calling me an idiot for getting off it.. I do realize there is a place for unemployment but its too easy to stay on it .

Barely paid more than unemployment? Previous job?

Personally I couldn't call myself a man by being a lazy leech, the people calling YOU stupid have no work ethic and shouldn't be around them.
 
Posted by 89foxstang (Member # 5908) on :
 
Yea barely more than unemployment . My bad
 
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
Well you're off of it and working and that shows what kind of person you are [patriot]
 




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