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Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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What does he stand for on? I only ask because I haven't voted yet, and I'm not really clear on his positions. Other than that he'll create 12 million jobs and he knows how to do it. Or is that all I need to hear and I should just vote for him? So let me know what he stands for.
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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he'll ask you if you seen your pension lol
[ October 25, 2012, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: SwEeT 03 Gt ]
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on
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I'm voting as an anti Obama vote.
I don't like Obama care
I don't like 16 trillion in debt when he himself told bush adding 4 trillion in debt was unpatriotic.
He said he would cut it in half
I think raising taxing on the "rich" will be passed down to the working man.
I think we need less social programs and put term limits on the ones we have
He promised to have a "transparent" government and don't.
We have nothing at all about immigration reform. No attempt.
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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Originally posted by ECOboostin:
I'm voting as an anti Obama vote.
I don't like Obama care
I don't like 16 trillion in debt when he himself told bush adding 4 trillion in debt was unpatriotic.
He said he would cut it in half
I think raising taxing on the "rich" will be passed down to the working man.
I think we need less social programs and put term limits on the ones we have
He promised to have a "transparent" government and don't.
We have nothing at all about immigration reform. No attempt.
So what does Romney stand for?
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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Romney doesn't even know what he stands for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av3q7-a-ayc
I'm not pro-Obama by any means... I'm not a fan of the way things have gone the last 4 years. But, is Romney going to be better? Or just a different flavor of bullshit?
Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on
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Obama couldn't do shit in 4 years. Give someone else a shot. If Romney can't get shit done in HIS 4 years, THROW HIS ASS OUT TOO!
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on
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I think Ryan is notches above Biden. You are the company you keep comes to mind.
He said he would repeal Obama care. I think he maybe will
Immigration reform. Been promised forever.
Not raise taxes on high earners
Cut our debt
Lets be real here these are only promises but I can't hold them against someone until they are broken.
Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
Good for laughs from time to time
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Obama couldn't do shit in 4 years. Give someone else a shot. If Romney can't get shit done in HIS 4 years, THROW HIS ASS OUT TOO!
Nothing but keep us out of a depression, saved gm, got rid of binladen, brought tons of troops back. Shit didn't get worse since he took over so i take that as major win considering the cluster fuck he was left with when he took over. Imagine if we would of had another 4 years of someone with some of the same views as bush, how bad would we be? we need to take a long break from any party that bush represents or represented
Posted by tonkaboyrich496 (Member # 9877) on
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FUCK MITT ROMNEY
Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on
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Promised to close Guantanamo..Didn't. Was in defense of marriage bill...switched and now supports gay marriage. Promised to balance the budget...still waiting...didn' do that. Promised to lower unemployment with all these GREAT GREEN JOBS, not to mention "shovel ready jobs" that never transpired....and on an on an on....Yeah, fuck this clown.
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Obama couldn't do shit in 4 years. Give someone else a shot. If Romney can't get shit done in HIS 4 years, THROW HIS ASS OUT TOO!
This
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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quote:
Originally posted by *Als50*:
Promised to close Guantanamo..Didn't. Was in defense of marriage bill...switched and now supports gay marriage. Promised to balance the budget...still waiting...didn' do that. Promised to lower unemployment with all these GREAT GREEN JOBS, not to mention "shovel ready jobs" that never transpired....and on an on an on....Yeah, fuck this clown.
So what does Mitt Romney stand for?
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
Nothing but keep us out of a depression, saved gm, got rid of binladen, brought tons of troops back. Shit didn't get worse since he took over so i take that as major win considering the cluster fuck he was left with when he took over. Imagine if we would of had another 4 years of someone with some of the same views as bush, how bad would we be? we need to take a long break from any party that bush represents or represented
Saving GM is a mistake. Let's say you have a son who is of adult age. He runs up his credit cards, he's spending more than he takes home, he's on the verge of financial meltdown. You save the day by paying off his credit cards, give him money for his next 6 months of rent, etc. Did that teach him something? Sure, it taught him that no matter how his habits are, he can go on messing up and daddy will be there to clean up. I saw an article the other day about Jeeps being made in China, and I believe GM was shipping some jobs over there as well. How does that make you feel after you and I as tax payers bailed GM out, and there are people in this country that need a job?
Obama did not get Bin Ladin. Some of the baddest, bravest, highly trained American men got him. Not Hilary, not Romney, not Bush, not anyone else.
Troops are coming home, I'm kind of glad to see that - some of those bastards in the Middle East are ungrateful and they are shooting American troops in the back. To hell with them, let them build their own nation. But don't forget, that at the beginning of this administration, Obama pulled out a lot of troops and sent them over to Afghan.
OK, some people argue that we aren't in a depression, but is printing money giving us a false sense of security here, that things are back to normal? The cost of goods are rising. Take a look at food prices all over the board, they have gone up in the past few years. Unemployment hasn't exactly dropped to a desirable percentage. Yes, we here in Silicon Valley are blessed to have what I consider an economy of our own, so there are, for the most part, readily available jobs if you look hard enough. But that doesn't represent the rest of the nation as a whole.
Finally, I agree with you that I don't want to see another 4 years of Bush. Like I said in another thread, that's why I'm hesitant to give my nod to Romney. After all, Obamacare is based off of Romneycare.............. BUT, Romney is not a socialist/marxist.
[ October 26, 2012, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: DLo ]
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O4oNB0t-wk&feature=related
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
Nothing but keep us out of a depression, saved gm, got rid of binladen, brought tons of troops back. Shit didn't get worse since he took over so i take that as major win considering the cluster fuck he was left with when he took over. Imagine if we would of had another 4 years of someone with some of the same views as bush, how bad would we be? we need to take a long break from any party that bush represents or represented
Saving GM is a mistake. Let's say you have a son who is of adult age. He runs up his credit cards, he's spending more than he takes home, he's on the verge of financial meltdown. You save the day by paying off his credit cards, give him money for his next 6 months of rent, etc. Did that teach him something? Sure, it taught him that no matter how his habits are, he can go on messing up and daddy will be there to clean up. I saw an article the other day about Jeeps being made in China, and I believe GM was shipping some jobs over there as well. How does that make you feel after you and I as tax payers bailed GM out, and there are people in this country that need a job?
Obama did not get Bin Ladin. Some of the baddest, bravest, highly trained American men got him. Not Hilary, not Romney, not Bush, not anyone else.
Troops are coming home, I'm kind of glad to see that - some of those bastards in the Middle East are ungrateful and they are shooting American troops in the back. To hell with them, let them build their own nation. But don't forget, that at the beginning of this administration, Obama pulled out a lot of troops and sent them over to Afghan.
OK, some people argue that we aren't in a depression, but is printing money giving us a false sense of security here, that things are back to normal? The cost of goods are rising. Take a look at food prices all over the board, they have gone up in the past few years. Unemployment hasn't exactly dropped to a desirable percentage. Yes, we here in Silicon Valley are blessed to have what I consider an economy of our own, so there are, for the most part, readily available jobs if you look hard enough. But that doesn't represent the rest of the nation as a whole.
Finally, I agree with you that I don't want to see another 4 years of Bush. Like I said in another thread, that's why I'm hesitant to give my nod to Romney. After all, Obamacare is based off of Romneycare.............. BUT, Romney is not a socialist/marxist.
they payed back what was given to them tho
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
Nothing but keep us out of a depression, saved gm, got rid of binladen, brought tons of troops back. Shit didn't get worse since he took over so i take that as major win considering the cluster fuck he was left with when he took over. Imagine if we would of had another 4 years of someone with some of the same views as bush, how bad would we be? we need to take a long break from any party that bush represents or represented
Saving GM is a mistake. Let's say you have a son who is of adult age. He runs up his credit cards, he's spending more than he takes home, he's on the verge of financial meltdown. You save the day by paying off his credit cards, give him money for his next 6 months of rent, etc. Did that teach him something? Sure, it taught him that no matter how his habits are, he can go on messing up and daddy will be there to clean up. I saw an article the other day about Jeeps being made in China, and I believe GM was shipping some jobs over there as well. How does that make you feel after you and I as tax payers bailed GM out, and there are people in this country that need a job?
Obama did not get Bin Ladin. Some of the baddest, bravest, highly trained American men got him. Not Hilary, not Romney, not Bush, not anyone else.
Troops are coming home, I'm kind of glad to see that - some of those bastards in the Middle East are ungrateful and they are shooting American troops in the back. To hell with them, let them build their own nation. But don't forget, that at the beginning of this administration, Obama pulled out a lot of troops and sent them over to Afghan.
OK, some people argue that we aren't in a depression, but is printing money giving us a false sense of security here, that things are back to normal? The cost of goods are rising. Take a look at food prices all over the board, they have gone up in the past few years. Unemployment hasn't exactly dropped to a desirable percentage. Yes, we here in Silicon Valley are blessed to have what I consider an economy of our own, so there are, for the most part, readily available jobs if you look hard enough. But that doesn't represent the rest of the nation as a whole.
Finally, I agree with you that I don't want to see another 4 years of Bush. Like I said in another thread, that's why I'm hesitant to give my nod to Romney. After all, Obamacare is based off of Romneycare.............. BUT, Romney is not a socialist/marxist.
so what does Mitt Romney stand for?
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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So the conclusion I see, is that people ether talking shit about Obama or support him but yet people are confuse cause knowone knows what mitt stands for, since mitt himself don't even know lol. I see a lot of people voting for mitt just because they want someone new. Sometimes we as Americans forget how ignorant we could be and just want things to changed in a dime but it doesn't work that way.
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on
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Originally posted by kingroy:
so what does Mitt Romney stand for?
x2
Roy - He stands for ... RomneyCare and invading Iran (hint - invisible terrorists, WMDs, another bullshit war on terror for 4yrs), expect 4yrs of great depression/recession, thousands of troops being murdered. Basically will be a repeat of Bush failure while he ran the office.
Posted by Chavez66 (Member # 9812) on
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlOIy6QEbes
Boooooooooooooooooom
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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Do I hate Obama NO do I think Mitt is the total answer NO but to me it's more along the lines of what he doesn't stand for, ie more welfare and handouts of services for people who refuse to help themselves, more gun control, more rights for "ILLEGALS" and general Democrat lack of support for the military and law enforcement.
Plus I hear that Mitt hates Cobraracer, good enough for me!
[ October 26, 2012, 01:13 AM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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Romney stands for freedom from Obama, he sucks
Posted by BRB 50 (Member # 10395) on
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Heres all you need to know about Romney. He was the governor of Massachusetts, and they aint voting for him. What does that say?
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY-agNiOFNA&feature=relmfu
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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Originally posted by BRB 50:
Heres all you need to know about Romney. He was the governor of Massachusetts, and they aint voting for him. What does that say?
Doesn't say too much the State blindly votes for Democrats since it hasn't gone for anything but since the 1984 election, similar to the great state of CA voting Democrat no matter what.
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Originally posted by kingroy:
What does he stand for on? I only ask because I haven't voted yet, and I'm not really clear on his positions. Other than that he'll create 12 million jobs and he knows how to do it. Or is that all I need to hear and I should just vote for him? So let me know what he stands for.
Good question but this is a very broad response that's to labor intensive on the fingers.
-Romney is pro life
-Romney believes in the principle of "reaganomics" wherein you cut taxes which is believed to bring in economic growth etc.
-Romney suggested that welfare recipients should go to work immediately!
-Romney is in favor of capital punishment.
-Romney obviously wants to lower the deficit but so does every other president
-Romney is in favor of finding our own forms of energy and being self sufficient
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
-Romney is a proponent of legal immigration
These are just a few off hand and I'm not pro life.
If Romney is elected we will still have problems no doubt but I feel they'll be less than what we have now. At least the country will be stalled out on the socialistic agenda of the current administration and your 2nd amendment rights will be preserved. which I'm very pro.
Nothing will be perfect, ever, in this country the way it's run nowadays. It's always the lesser of two evils and I support Romney.
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Originally posted by fstryde3:
Do I hate Obama NO do I think Mitt is the total answer NO but to me it's more along the lines of what he doesn't stand for, ie more welfare and handouts of services for people who refuse to help themselves, more gun control, more rights for "ILLEGALS" and general Democrat lack of support for the military and law enforcement.
Plus I hear that Mitt hates Cobraracer, good enough for me!
Me too
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
so what does Mitt Romney stand for?
Mitt claims he stands for exploring alternative energy sources. He says he is against amnesty for illegals. He believes to get anything accomplished, it requires bi-partisan support. He is for some gun restriction. As governor of Massachusetts, he passed a mandate for state-wide healthcare. He'd like to defund Planned Parenthood and PBS. With him being a Mormon, I'm sure we can all assume that he backs traditional marriage.
Like I have said in past posts, I question whether or not Mitt is really going to make a difference. He is not a socialist, but on some issues, I find that he doesn't differ too far from the current President. He doesn't seem to oppose the NDAA or the Patriot Act. I found a picture the other day outlining the similarities between the two but I can't find it now. We'll see what he does with the crazy person in Iran.
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
What does he stand for on? I only ask because I haven't voted yet, and I'm not really clear on his positions. Other than that he'll create 12 million jobs and he knows how to do it. Or is that all I need to hear and I should just vote for him? So let me know what he stands for.
Good question but this is a very broad response that's to labor intensive on the fingers.
-Romney is pro life
-Romney believes in the principle of "reaganomics" wherein you cut taxes which is believed to bring in economic growth etc.
-Romney suggested that welfare recipients should go to work immediately!
-Romney is in favor of capital punishment.
-Romney obviously wants to lower the deficit but so does every other president
-Romney is in favor of finding our own forms of energy and being self sufficient
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
-Romney is a proponent of legal immigration
These are just a few off hand and I'm not pro life.
If Romney is elected we will still have problems no doubt but I feel they'll be less than what we have now. At least the country will be stalled out on the socialistic agenda of the current administration and your 2nd amendment rights will be preserved. which I'm very pro.
Nothing will be perfect, ever, in this country the way it's run nowadays. It's always the lesser of two evils and I support Romney.
-Romney is pro life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8Nk3p1wyY
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l-rW34wdQ8
Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on
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All theese retards arguing about Obama are probably racist bigots, i never saw anything about Bush jr. here while troops got deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq; and he was shitting the bedd left and right.
Anyone remember wat happened to Russia after that 10 year war in Afghanistan? GET YOUR HEAD OUTTA UR ASS! America has been in two war fronts for 10 years!
Fuck. Are u fucking that dense that you expect the US dollar to hold its value after the country hemorrages money in two fucking warfronts that benefit lord knows who?! Spend all of the taxpayers money THE 99% in war then turn around and ask for more $$$$ from fucking China. Thats wat caused this fucked up economy,
yes we control Iraqi oil but gas is at an all time high! And we been growing as a oil production country over the past half decade! But how are we benefiting from it? Why is it more expensive? Huh? And who decide to go to war huh? The FUCKING BUSHs' And who lobbys for these oil producing corporations? Who owns them?
Man were stirring the wrong pot here talking down on Obama, all these corporate loop holes that allow immense corporations to pay less in taxes get away with fucked up things and OUTSOURCE jobs overseas. Corporations that pay fucking 10 yr old Lee $1.00 a week to produce shoes, Pay fucking 10yr old Ahmed $1.00 a week to make taylored dress shirts, pay Alejandro in the fucking banana republic $1.00 a week to make some fucked up stoned washed jeans and then they turn around and make ludicrous profit and who? On the average american consumer THE WORKING CLASS.
Thats some BS wake that fuck up, it aint the Mexicans outsourcing jobs dip shit.
Have you ever called for customer help on lets say cable or ur phone provider and the operator has a heavy Indian accent or a Latin accent? Wait isnt your provider local? Why cant they provide jobs to the locals?
Thats wat Romney is good for, at having "chump change" thrown at him by huge corporations and then boom a fucking loop hole well WADAYAKNOW........
How are u as a member of the working class have pay for kids college tuition when they have hiked up the prices per semester. How is your child supposed to be a profesional earning more than 300k a year when he cant even afford a college?
This is starting to get like Mexico where the rich stay rich go to college and the poor never excel b/c theres no way to advance to a higher paying job with out having a degree.
China & Russia dnt like us, Iran doesnt like us. N korea doesnt like us, India & Pakistan dnt like us. Man were hated by many and were only getting weaker. If Romney comes into office and decides to tell Iran to fuck off were going over there and stopping ur nuclear enrichment program guess whos gunna jump in and say no?
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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What's the need to call us retards and racist bigots for? There's someone named Allen West that I would vote for if he ran for President, and wait, what's his skin color.....? That's not why I would vote for the man though. I don't care what nationality, sexuality, ethnicity, or type a politician is - I want to know that they stand for a majority of what I believe in.
Did you even bother reading the entire thread? I agreed that American troops no longer need to be in another nations, fighting for people who don't appreciate Americans being there anyway. 100% agree with you on what happened to Russia. It has been said before: Afghanistan is where empires go to die.
Posted by lxhatch5.0 (Member # 6319) on
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Originally posted by DLo:
What's the need to call us retards and racist bigots for? There's someone named Allen West that I would vote for if he ran for President, and wait, what's his skin color.....? That's not why I would vote for the man though. I don't care what nationality, sexuality, ethnicity, or type a politician is - I want to know that they stand for a majority of what I believe in.
Did you even bother reading the entire thread? I agreed that American troops no longer need to be in another nations, fighting for people who don't appreciate Americans being there anyway. 100% agree with you on what happened to Russia. It has been said before: Afghanistan is where empires go to die.
"If the suit fits you wear it", im not calling you that im just saying it too some bird brains that have no clue what Romney stands for and just decide that its cool to attack Obama b/c of his skin color and last name....... Its cool i think congress is responsible for this mess and no matter what President we "pick" its all gonna be the same bs...........
Posted by bentley mobs a stang (Member # 11119) on
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Originally posted by SETONKILL:
God damn Muslim is making my natty ice taste bad!
Seriously tho, fuck Obama.
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
What does he stand for on? I only ask because I haven't voted yet, and I'm not really clear on his positions. Other than that he'll create 12 million jobs and he knows how to do it. Or is that all I need to hear and I should just vote for him? So let me know what he stands for.
Good question but this is a very broad response that's to labor intensive on the fingers.
-Romney is pro life
-Romney believes in the principle of "reaganomics" wherein you cut taxes which is believed to bring in economic growth etc.
-Romney suggested that welfare recipients should go to work immediately!
-Romney is in favor of capital punishment.
-Romney obviously wants to lower the deficit but so does every other president
-Romney is in favor of finding our own forms of energy and being self sufficient
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
-Romney is a proponent of legal immigration
These are just a few off hand and I'm not pro life.
If Romney is elected we will still have problems no doubt but I feel they'll be less than what we have now. At least the country will be stalled out on the socialistic agenda of the current administration and your 2nd amendment rights will be preserved. which I'm very pro.
Nothing will be perfect, ever, in this country the way it's run nowadays. It's always the lesser of two evils and I support Romney.
-Romney is pro life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8Nk3p1wyY
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l-rW34wdQ8
Damn, that just summed it up for me. I'm interested in what 9cobra7 has to say about this. And most of the people saying fuck obama are the same one's that voted for bush, not once but twice.
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on
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Originally posted by losbadgts:
So the conclusion I see, is that people ether talking shit about Obama or support him but yet people are confuse cause knowone knows what mitt stands for, since mitt himself don't even know lol. I see a lot of people voting for mitt just because they want someone new. Sometimes we as Americans forget how ignorant we could be and just want things to changed in a dime but it doesn't work that way.
Lol, you hit it dead on.
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on
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I'd advise the OP to do extensive research in the coming days and determine it for yourself. This really isn't the forum for this discussion as there are just too many misinformed people on here. Do yourself a favor and watch or re-watch the presidential debates, read the hundreds of articles that are out there, do your research on the props that are applicable to you and yours. At the very least if you are unable to do all this and more to get informed of the facts then I suggest you find the candidate whos moral compass agrees with your own and go with your gut. I in no way want to sway you on who to vote for as I'm sure you have enough of that in your face as it is. This election is as important if not more important than the last. However, if it is election day and you are still unsure on who to vote for just don't vote at all and make sure to do your due diligence next time.
[ October 26, 2012, 05:55 AM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
Posted by *Als50* (Member # 6003) on
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Alot of ASS-umtions on here.
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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quote:
Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
quote:
Originally posted by kingroy:
What does he stand for on? I only ask because I haven't voted yet, and I'm not really clear on his positions. Other than that he'll create 12 million jobs and he knows how to do it. Or is that all I need to hear and I should just vote for him? So let me know what he stands for.
Good question but this is a very broad response that's to labor intensive on the fingers.
-Romney is pro life
-Romney believes in the principle of "reaganomics" wherein you cut taxes which is believed to bring in economic growth etc.
-Romney suggested that welfare recipients should go to work immediately!
-Romney is in favor of capital punishment.
-Romney obviously wants to lower the deficit but so does every other president
-Romney is in favor of finding our own forms of energy and being self sufficient
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
-Romney is a proponent of legal immigration
These are just a few off hand and I'm not pro life.
If Romney is elected we will still have problems no doubt but I feel they'll be less than what we have now. At least the country will be stalled out on the socialistic agenda of the current administration and your 2nd amendment rights will be preserved. which I'm very pro.
Nothing will be perfect, ever, in this country the way it's run nowadays. It's always the lesser of two evils and I support Romney.
-Romney is pro life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4
-Romney is not out to take our guns away like the Pro Socialist we have in office now. He's in full support of the second amendment...this is very big here fellas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8Nk3p1wyY
-Romney is obviously for business and built in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l-rW34wdQ8
Damn, that just summed it up for me. I'm interested in what 9cobra7 has to say about this. And most of the people saying fuck obama are the same one's that voted for bush, not once but twice.
fuck obama an guess what i didnt vote for bush jr neither time,an i didnt vote for dad either back in 92.since obama has been in office my cost of living has gone in the last 2 years my mechail has gone up 30% my food cost has gone up 25% every year since 2009.an my hourly pay has stayed the same.an i say it again when ceo or manger cant grow the company an bring in more dollars you fire them,an this country needs to be run like a bussness an stop give every tom,dick.an henry a buck bucuase there to lazy to go out an get
Posted by SydewayzStan (Member # 10217) on
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quote:
Originally posted by ECOboostin:
I'm voting as an anti Obama vote.
I don't like Obama care
I don't like 16 trillion in debt when he himself told bush adding 4 trillion in debt was unpatriotic.
He said he would cut it in half
I think raising taxing on the "rich" will be passed down to the working man.
I think we need less social programs and put term limits on the ones we have
He promised to have a "transparent" government and don't.
We have nothing at all about immigration reform. No attempt.
+1
Another anti obama voter here. I voted for him in 08 but i was tricked into thinkin things were gonna change for the better. It doesnt take a genius to realize just about everything about the government and the economy has been steadily declining. Time to appoint a career business man instead of a career politician.
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on
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I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
Posted by Wildfire532FB (Member # 1482) on
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
LOL seriously, does anyone read the responses before posting or do you just come in and post your BS and leave?
Posted by fast305s (Member # 11897) on
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For those of you who are voting for romney because its not obama is ludicrous, yea he is a career millionaire, but what dose he know abut policy over seas? its like picking a mystery liquid(Romney) because you dont like the taste of water(obama)..THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR VOTING FOR. just saying
Posted by 92MaroonGT (Member # 10397) on
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by *Als50*:
Obama couldn't do shit in 4 years. Give someone else a shot. If Romney can't get shit done in HIS 4 years, THROW HIS ASS OUT TOO!
Nothing but keep us out of a depression, saved gm, got rid of binladen, brought tons of troops back. Shit didn't get worse since he took over so i take that as major win considering the cluster fuck he was left with when he took over. Imagine if we would of had another 4 years of someone with some of the same views as bush, how bad would we be? we need to take a long break from any party that bush represents or represented
Why? So China can own us (U.S.) 100%. Good plan. We owe more countries money then what this dang country is worth. (16,000,000,000,000.00+) Most of that owed to China. Increase of almost 6 TRILLION! In Bush's 8 years, he added 4. Yeah, cut in half. Obviously.
http://conservativenewssources.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/what-does-mitt-romney-stand-for/
[ October 26, 2012, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: 92MaroonGT ]
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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ALL of the 'politics' aside. Obama is about socialism, redistributing wealth, among other non fundemental American ways. Obama is an enabler of the lazy. Obama wants to do the right things for all of the wrong reasons. I don't give a flying fuck if he's black or yellow, his ideals suck and in no way stand for what America is. I'm not voting for Romney, I am simply voting against Obama... If Romney is shit hell get canned in 4 years as well.
If you don't understand what I just wrote, you should take a US history class.
[ October 26, 2012, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
ALL of the 'politics' aside. Obama is about socialism, redistributing wealth, among other non fundemental American ways. Obama is an enabler of the lazy. Obama wants to do the right things for all of the wrong reasons. I don't give a flying fuck if he's black or yellow, his ideals suck and in no way stand for what America is. I'm not voting for Obama, but I am voting against him. If Romney is shit hell get canned in 4 years as well.
If you don't understand what I just wrote, you should take a US history class.
well said an all true in my views an most who are over 25 years old
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Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
For some reason I didn't see a page 2, now I've read your responses. Thanks for clarifying things... GO OBAMA!! It's what's best for me and my family.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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I see from the above post a lot of Romney's promises...but I am interested in understanding exactly how he plans on accomplishing these lofty goals...case in point Taxes. I believe he said that he would reduce everyone who makes under 250,000 tax rate by 20% while removing standard deductions. That actually will raise tax revenue and increase the amount of tax you pay. How exactly is that better?...healthcare, he will replace Obamacare with Romneycare...no change..Foriegn Affairs he just finally agreed that he would do exactly what Obama has done in regards to the war, Libya, and China...Jobs...as a business man every company Romney has led he bought them while they were in decline let them go bankrupt, laid off all the workers, sold the assets, rebranded them, hired back half as many workers as he laid off, sold the company for a small profit. That isn't exactly what our economy needs...what would the employment rate be today without the auto industry bailout?...Honestly I would actually consider voting for Romney if at least one of his positions on anything was better than Obama's...they are not, just different, and some are plain ridiculous...can someone pls enlighten me on one thing Romney will do and how...not what or why you don't like Obama...
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
For some reason I didn't see a page 2, now I've read your responses. Thanks for clarifying things... GO OBAMA!! It's what's best for me and my family.
Fuck ya man! Get that milk and cheese for free with the swipe of that card! Get on some assistance programs! Live the good life my dude!
"Obama, bringing out the pussy in pussies nationwide, since 2009!"
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on
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Originally posted by fast305s:
For those of you who are voting for romney because its not obama is ludicrous, yea he is a career millionaire, but what dose he know abut policy over seas? its like picking a mystery liquid(Romney) because you dont like the taste of water(obama)..THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR VOTING FOR. just saying
I question international policies sometimes. Do we really need to put in this much effort into the UN, into supporting other nations, getting in their business, etc etc? How about the politicians take care of Americans first, and place us, WE THE PEOPLE, on the top of the list? America needs to make a come back. Our jobs are getting sent overseas. Corrupt deals are happening left and right.
This current administration has been a failure in so many areas it's not even funny. Denying extra security for our American ambassador in Libya? Eric Holder sending guns to Mexico, and then those guns end up killing one of the border agents? How about the lag time on the BP oil spill (which BP should still be held accountable for, but it seems like the administration took forever to respond..... sounds like Deja Vu of Bush and Katrina).
I think Obama wants to do good for the people of America, but his idea of how to implement that good is of a utopia. Usage of food stamps has gone up ever since this man took office. That means you, me, those of us that work, are essentially paying for other low life losers to screw around all day and get a free meal.
Mr. Obama, I like the idea of Robin Hood, but taking away from those that work and giving to those that don't is not my idea of how this country should be. My ancestors left Communism so I could have the great life that I live today. I don't want to see those socialist policies implemented here in this country.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Exactly what did the current administration do to increase.the amount of food stamps given to those in need...and just curious if you have children who go to public school or did u go to public school?...I think it is not accurate to blame the increase in the amount welfare used to the current administration
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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Originally posted by BRB 50:
Heres all you need to know about Romney. He was the governor of Massachusetts, and they aint voting for him. What does that say?
lol thats pretty much it right there
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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Originally posted by notch306:
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Originally posted by BRB 50:
Heres all you need to know about Romney. He was the governor of Massachusetts, and they aint voting for him. What does that say?
lol thats pretty much it right there
+1000 how the hell does your own state not vote for you!
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Exactly what did the current administration do to increase.the amount of food stamps given to those in need...and just curious if you have children who go to public school or did u go to public school?...I think it is not accurate to blame the increase in the amount welfare used to the current administration
I work in the school lunch distribution & handle over 100 districts. I can tell you we haven't been more busy. That's comming from a guy with over 15 years experience in the business. The main reason WHY more people are on food stamps & assisted living is because the people who paid into the system thru taxes ARE HAVING TO USE THEM!!!
So now you have two groups of people receiving government assistance.
1. The group of lazy people who have no desire to get a job, want & rely on the state to provide them with section 8 vouchers & Cal Fresh aka food stamps.
2. People who have lost their job due to the housing bubble. ( electricians, HVAC, Contractors, loan officers & the list goes on.)
Now that you have these two groups of people getting assistance, the state & feds are having to pay out more to provide enough for groups 1 & 2 .
I am a registered republican. I'm not rich. I also don't have a problem with paying taxes so people can receive a helping hand. That is what Americans do. We help people when and how we can. But I'm 100% against my TAX DOLLARS being spent on lazy Americans who refuse to get a job.
Just like the saying goes,
" Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on
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Mitt Romney ranked 47th out of 50th in creating jobs when he was a governor and now he says that he will create more jobs than Obama? No way!
Another thing to remember is that Romney deos not give a fuck about students, the poor, our war veterans and retired people. The bottom line is that Romney will suck the dicks of rich and the military defense contractors while pissing on the rest of us.
Of course I feel good that the great state of California will go to Obama so for those of you that are voting for Romney the Mormon coward, your vote will be heard like a tree falling down in the middle of the Forrest!
Obama 2012!
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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You're a racist if you don't vote for Obama. Muslim power!
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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this type of person that votes for obama
Posted by 510cpskid (Member # 8277) on
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So where's his papers at?
Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
You're a racist if you don't vote for Obama. Muslim power!
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Originally posted by 510cpskid:
So where's his papers at?
It took 2 years to mock up the last ones so I'm sure there working as fast as they can for the new ones.
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Why does our one and only first black president have to be so questionable?
And Muslim of all things, why can't he be the majority of Christian BORN AND RAISED AMERICAN African American men? There are millions of them here.
Bush was just a bumbling idiot when he spoke but Obama is well spoken but very mysterious. Middle name HUSSEIN....the irony is just too too much for me.
Nobody seems to remember him in college??
Again I think he's a trojan horse, a big surprise when he gets through the gates. We're seeing this already just wait if he gets the second term
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
Why does our one and only first black president have to be so questionable?
And Muslim of all things, why can't he be the majority of Christian BORN AND RAISED AMERICAN African American men? There are millions of them here.
Bush was just a bumbling idiot when he spoke but Obama is well spoken but very mysterious. Middle name HUSSEIN....the irony is just too too much for me.
Nobody seems to remember him in college??
Again I think he's a trojan horse, a big surprise when he gets through the gates. We're seeing this already just wait if he gets the second term
So i guess you can't come up with anymore ideas why you support romney since your first attempt got shot down, so your back to saying obama's not an american, so i guess the republicans we had 12 of the last 24 years in office did such a good job that you want to put one back in office, makes sence
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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The school reference comes due to public assistance and public education are the same...you can not be mad at people who use public assistance if you send your children to public school. It is essentially no different. Also I do not think any of you anti welfare people actually understand the social effect of not having NH These options for those so called lazy Americans...essentially the cost of food stamps and housing is less than jail or prison. Just think about everyone can not be successful at life some will pass and some will fail..
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rmadison007:
Exactly what did the current administration do to increase.the amount of food stamps given to those in need...and just curious if you have children who go to public school or did u go to public school?...I think it is not accurate to blame the increase in the amount welfare used to the current administration
I work in the school lunch distribution & handle over 100 districts. I can tell you we haven't been more busy. That's comming from a guy with over 15 years experience in the business. The main reason WHY more people are on food stamps & assisted living is because the people who paid into the system thru taxes ARE HAVING TO USE THEM!!!
So now you have two groups of people receiving government assistance.
1. The group of lazy people who have no desire to get a job, want & rely on the state to provide them with section 8 vouchers & Cal Fresh aka food stamps.
2. People who have lost their job due to the housing bubble. ( electricians, HVAC, Contractors, loan officers & the list goes on.)
Now that you have these two groups of people getting assistance, the state & feds are having to pay out more to provide enough for groups 1 & 2 .
I am a registered republican. I'm not rich. I also don't have a problem with paying taxes so people can receive a helping hand. That is what Americans do. We help people when and how we can. But I'm 100% against my TAX DOLLARS being spent on lazy Americans who refuse to get a job.
Just like the saying goes,
" Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
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Amen brother. Im not a republican and I do think we should help people who are really in need but i'm sick of seeing people who abuse the system.
Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Exactly what did the current administration do to increase.the amount of food stamps given to those in need...and just curious if you have children who go to public school or did u go to public school?...I think it is not accurate to blame the increase in the amount welfare used to the current administration
I work in the school lunch distribution & handle over 100 districts. I can tell you we haven't been more busy. That's comming from a guy with over 15 years experience in the business. The main reason WHY more people are on food stamps & assisted living is because the people who paid into the system thru taxes ARE HAVING TO USE THEM!!!
So now you have two groups of people receiving government assistance.
1. The group of lazy people who have no desire to get a job, want & rely on the state to provide them with section 8 vouchers & Cal Fresh aka food stamps.
2. People who have lost their job due to the housing bubble. ( electricians, HVAC, Contractors, loan officers & the list goes on.)
Now that you have these two groups of people getting assistance, the state & feds are having to pay out more to provide enough for groups 1 & 2 .
I am a registered republican. I'm not rich. I also don't have a problem with paying taxes so people can receive a helping hand. That is what Americans do. We help people when and how we can. But I'm 100% against my TAX DOLLARS being spent on lazy Americans who refuse to get a job.
Just like the saying goes,
" Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
Well put! I wouldn't be against some type of stricter enforcement on welfare recipients. I think that you should only receive it if you're actively looking for work instead of being at home like a lazy fuck.
The sad part is the people that truly need help can't get it because of the lazy leeches depleting the funds.
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on
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Originally posted by 86- 50:
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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
Why does our one and only first black president have to be so questionable?
And Muslim of all things, why can't he be the majority of Christian BORN AND RAISED AMERICAN African American men? There are millions of them here.
Bush was just a bumbling idiot when he spoke but Obama is well spoken but very mysterious. Middle name HUSSEIN....the irony is just too too much for me.
Nobody seems to remember him in college??
Again I think he's a trojan horse, a big surprise when he gets through the gates. We're seeing this already just wait if he gets the second term
So i guess you can't come up with anymore ideas why you support romney since your first attempt got shot down, so your back to saying obama's not an american, so i guess the republicans we had 12 of the last 24 years in office did such a good job that you want to put one back in office, makes sence
Well the first video was in 2002..10 years ago where opinions changed and he changed as a person, obviously.
second was mostly about "assault weapons" which there is a difference. The government is trying to disarm us anyways, I just don't want it done much quicker.
third is difficult because you have to produce in China these days at least some to remain competitive and profitable to start a new business, fact.
There all crooks, no argument there, I don't like the current direction so I'm going to be racist and voter for the white guy
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
For some reason I didn't see a page 2, now I've read your responses. Thanks for clarifying things... GO OBAMA!! It's what's best for me and my family.
Fuck ya man! Get that milk and cheese for free with the swipe of that card! Get on some assistance programs! Live the good life my dude!
"Obama, bringing out the pussy in pussies nationwide, since 2009!"
I find it extremely funny how you think because I support Obama I'm somehow poor... Sorry but I'm not buddy. Just your average working class guy living in the expensive as Bay Area trying to make it!!! I've always worked for what I've had and never gotten a handout, been working since the age of 16... As for assistance programs, never once in my life have I been given any assistance from the government other than financial aid for school... Why don't you know what your talking about before you say it next time!!!
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
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Originally posted by DLo:
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Originally posted by cali95gt:
I love it how nobody can answer your question. Just shows how dumb most are. They don't like the one president who actually is trying to fix things so much that they will vote for some clown who they don't know what he stands for lol
Have you read any of our responses or are you just going to spout off like a child instead of engaging in a political discussion? I don't understand why people on here can't have a legitimate discussion about politics.
For some reason I didn't see a page 2, now I've read your responses. Thanks for clarifying things... GO OBAMA!! It's what's best for me and my family.
Fuck ya man! Get that milk and cheese for free with the swipe of that card! Get on some assistance programs! Live the good life my dude!
"Obama, bringing out the pussy in pussies nationwide, since 2009!"
I find it extremely funny how you think because I support Obama I'm somehow poor... Sorry but I'm not buddy. Just your average working class guy living in the expensive as Bay Area trying to make it!!! I've always worked for what I've had and never gotten a handout, been working since the age of 16... As for assistance programs, never once in my life have I been given any assistance from the government other than financial aid for school... Why don't you know what your talking about before you say it next time!!!
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