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Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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All out performance!!!! Fresno ca
Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on
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this one ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
lol jk ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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Lmao no not that 1 haha
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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from all the work that I have seen him do is pretty good so we'll see how my car turns out
Posted by SETONKILL (Member # 7277) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
sounds more like your combo is at its max
Posted by 408LIGHTNING (Member # 7447) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
so he sucks cuz he made more power that aed's tune? how about drivability. just asking cuz he's tuning my truck when its done
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by 408LIGHTNING:
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
so he sucks cuz he made more power that aed's tune? how about drivability. just asking cuz he's tuning my truck when its done
haha brotha i was being sarcastic but i did pick up 20rwhp.. the car runs like a beast..even sounds better under wot..i would have to say it drives better then aed tune also.i never really said anything since everyone swings on aed balls on here..but i think the time has come to make a vid and show it how it really is..
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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Lol so im guessing ur happy with nates work then.
Posted by Y2K 281 (Member # 10132) on
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I'm also interested in the drive ability aspect, anyone can tune for more power. I wanna know how well the entire tune is.
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
sweet..so you're at 220rw now?
Posted by cpthowdy (Member # 10055) on
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Heard nothing but amazing work/tuning from AOP. Will check them out soon
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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I jus dropped mines off I will let u guys kno the outcome
Posted by 408LIGHTNING (Member # 7447) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
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Originally posted by 408LIGHTNING:
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
so he sucks cuz he made more power that aed's tune? how about drivability. just asking cuz he's tuning my truck when its done
haha brotha i was being sarcastic but i did pick up 20rwhp.. the car runs like a beast..even sounds better under wot..i would have to say it drives better then aed tune also.i never really said anything since everyone swings on aed balls on here..but i think the time has come to make a vid and show it how it really is..
Oh ok. Yeah he's tuning my lightning for sure then.
Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on
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what brand chips does he use? sct?
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Dyno #'s mean nothing if its not coming from the same dyno, using the same correction factor...
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on
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Megasquirt son, tune your own shit ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Dyno #'s mean nothing if its not coming from the same dyno, using the same correction factor...
ur so smart..how do you do it?
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
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Originally posted by Mach916:
nate sucks...he only got me 20rwhp over my aed tune.
sweet..so you're at 220rw now?
some people have 400 and say 220rwhp..others have 789 rwhp missing 4-5 pounds of boost saying 550?i guess whatever floats your boat...
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Dyno #'s mean nothing if its not coming from the same dyno, using the same correction factor...
ur so smart..how do you do it?
I have no come back for your extremely witty comment. Damn.
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by Mach916:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Dyno #'s mean nothing if its not coming from the same dyno, using the same correction factor...
ur so smart..how do you do it?
I have no come back for your extremely witty comment. Damn.
yawn ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on
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20 extra hp?
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
He's so smart, how does he do it?
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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*edited so this isn't taken the wrong way*
The last post was NOT aimed at Nate or AOP. I work with other professionals in the tuning industry, not against.
I keep an open line of communication with Nate and many other high end tuners around the nation.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
He's so smart, how does he do it?
I ride the short bus....it gives me retard strength.
Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
He's so smart, how does he do it?
I ride the short bus....it gives me retard strength.
Hey guys, go easy on retards... I'm almost certain that the average retard is smarter than 9 out of 10 CA Ford members.
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
He's so smart, how does he do it?
I ride the short bus....it gives me retard strength.
wait wait...so you're telling me that it's hard to tune a car that is not running properly?...damn your retard strength
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Gotta love the AED hatin LOL
When knock sensors go nuts on a Mach1, guess what.... I stop adding timing and leave the Knock sensors turned ON.
I do conservative tuning ONLY on CA crap 91 octane.
When was the last time you saw a thread 'AED blew my shit up!'?
You want me to push the limits with respect to power? Better get some octane or E85 in the fuel tank.
Besides, a dyno is simply a tool.
Track times are the only #'s that matter IMO.
how is it hating if im just saying it how it is.. i didnt change anything on the car after i got it "tuned" from you.. nate dynoed the car with your tune as a base number.. then he tuned the car.. it put down 20rwhp over yours.. same day..same dyno.. ive had his tune for over 2 years..plunty on runs..and just finished up a track day at thunder hill...seems plenty safe to me..
[ October 16, 2012, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: Mach916 ]
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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the best part about this is..both tunes are said and done...i have both saved... so both can be easily tested against eachother..if i can find an evenly matched car with mine.. id love to make a vid..aed vs aop tune.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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After you left disappointed that I would not take your tuning advise I realized you were likely to go elsewhere.
I should have added timing and leaned the piss out of it like you wanted to give you that dyno # you were after. Does that mean you would have left with that much timing and the lean A/F? Absolutely not.
Dyno numbers shmimo numbers.
I can guarantee you more HP than your current tune on my dyno. Does that mean you'd leave with more power? Nope....but I can make more dyno power.
In the end I'm glad you're happy with Nate's tune.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Originally posted by Mach916:
the best part about this is..both tunes are said and done...i have both saved... so both can be easily tested against eachother..if i can find an evenly matched car with mine.. id love to make a vid..aed vs aop tune.
If you want to play that game, bring it back and I will retune for free. The past 2 years I've made leaps and bounds in proper 'Ford Style' calibration.
Posted by 90lxfoxbody (Member # 6947) on
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Ok ok ok this shit needs to stop.Ths is Nate from AOP.Shaun and I are firends,hes helped me many of times and in know way am i hating on him or aed,lots of people use him and are happy,same is said for us.
As far as the mach 1 is concerned,I have played with plenty and learned the knocks just flat dont work,they go crazy at 16 degrees or 25 degrees.Its false knock and it happens the second you goto wot.Now that being said i dont put a ton of timing in them on 91 but i know the limit and its far past what the knock pulls out,so insted of ust adding 8 degrees to the base to compensate for the crazy knocks i turn them off and build the timing table accordingly.The knocks are not saving anything on the 4vs imo because they just dont work in the first place.does this make me right and shaun wrong and vise versa no just different schools of thought.
So lets please not bash either of us.
Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on
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Thank you Nate.
The general Ford knock stratefy is to hone in on the frequency of piston slap. It's not an exact science on the older cars, and as they age and wear (also driving style) cold engine piston slap can roll the skirts effectively inducing piston slap at all engine speeds which the Knicks pick up, even though it may be 'false', it's the exact same frequency the sensors are designed to pick up.
Nate is correct. Mach1 sensors and programming were not the greatest (overly sensitive), and as they age (now 10 years old) the problem has not gone away.
2 schools of thought on how to deal with the issue.
Neither Nate nor I like shop vs shop competition. We both understand this is how we put ford on our families table. You will not find Nate or I discrediting each others hard work.
[ October 16, 2012, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on
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The bottom line is if you want to be a dyno queen then go ahead and be one, but it is only a tool to get you headed in the right direction. There are way to many variables, and some fine tuning will need to be done at the track/street based off current conditions to achieve maximum ET.I dont know about you, but ET matters not Dyno numbers.
[ October 16, 2012, 01:36 PM: Message edited by: Camara90 ]
Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on
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I go to aed and think they are a great shop but i also have a few buddies tuned by nate and they love his work and tunes also. both are great shops.
last time i was up @ AED shaun had nothing bad to say bout nate, he mentioned they were friends also and said its a good shop also.
hey isnt this what we want, good tuners that arent bickering back and forth and actually get along
props to nate and shaun for being professional
[ October 16, 2012, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: 04cobra408 ]
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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Originally posted by 93PONY:
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Originally posted by Mach916:
the best part about this is..both tunes are said and done...i have both saved... so both can be easily tested against eachother..if i can find an evenly matched car with mine.. id love to make a vid..aed vs aop tune.
If you want to play that game, bring it back and I will retune for free. The past 2 years I've made leaps and bounds in proper 'Ford Style' calibration.
no thanks..nate did everything i asked and im happy with how the car runs now.. it does suck to pay for something twice. i hope people dont think im talking smack..any time anyone says something against jesus (aed) shit gets crazy on here.. all i was stating is my experience with both shops..
[ October 16, 2012, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: Mach916 ]
Posted by Y2K 281 (Member # 10132) on
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^^^Love how you claim that you aren't talking shit yet you go right ahead with some immature comment about AED being "Jesus" lol. Good job spreading your butt hurt BS all over this thread that had nothing to do with AED in the first place.
Still curious about the drivability of the AOP tune, not many people advertise their experience from over there so it's nice to hear another shop is stepping up in the area.
[ October 16, 2012, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: Y2K 281 ]
Posted by 90lxfoxbody (Member # 6947) on
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Theres a tgread about a cobra i just tuned.big cams and what not.he said the car has never driven as good as it does now with up north tunes and down south tunes.
I pride myself in drivabilty because imo its more important then wot.
Posted by notch306 (Member # 12061) on
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Well I jus got mines tuned by Nate yesterday and it runs cherry now. And he also fixed some electrical problems
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