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Originally posted by ECOboostin:
I'm asking because someone told me its a human right to be provided with free healthcare. :face palm:

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lol really
 

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Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
Britain and all UK residents have free health care... Not sure on the quality of it thought... Shit, Doctors gotta make their cheddar somehow, being that they save people's lives and all...

[ September 27, 2012, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: Nifty50 ]
 

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Posted by NotACop_281 (Member # 11498) on :
 
Affordable make em work for it
 

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Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :
 
If you're in favor of for-profit health care, then you should also want to privatize police and fire. Why should you pay extra taxes to protect someone else's house? It's their own fault if they have faulty wiring and can't afford private fire protection, right?
 

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Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on :
 
Affordable, shit canada has free health care for all but there taxes are insane like 17% iirc
 

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Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Science is hogwash, if i'm ever sick i just pray to god and he makes me feel better.

Thats what this lady did.
http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/trial-expected-to-wrap-up-for-ba-mom-who-opted-for-prayer-over-modern-medicine

[ September 27, 2012, 05:05 PM: Message edited by: Cobra 93-4992 ]
 

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Posted by 66_5.0 (Member # 9974) on :
 
Affordable. Nothing is free
 

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Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on :
 
like everyone is sayin. it shouldnt be free , everyone should have to work n earn their stuff...
 

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Posted by fredfifty (Member # 10320) on :
 
definitely make it affordable, not free...
 

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Posted by JUNKYARD5.0 (Member # 10398) on :
 
Nothing in this world is free but if it is then it probably sucks cuz most free shit sucks! So let's make this affordable guys.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
Ideally, I would like to see the for profit health care in this country eliminated and in it's place would be Medicare for all.

The missing peice of Obama's health care reform is Medicare for everyone and I feel optimistic that an amendment to make medicare avalable for anyone who wants it is coming so long as Obama gets re elected and the democrats gain control of the house and senete.
 

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Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 

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Originally posted by Wolfie351:
If you're in favor of for-profit health care, then you should also want to privatize police and fire. Why should you pay extra taxes to protect someone else's house? It's their own fault if they have faulty wiring and can't afford private fire protection, right?

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Originally posted by Wolfie351:
If you're in favor of for-profit health care, then you should also want to privatize police and fire. Why should you pay extra taxes to protect someone else's house? It's their own fault if they have faulty wiring and can't afford private fire protection, right?

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Originally posted by Nifty50:
Britain and all UK residents have free health care... Not sure on the quality of it thought... Shit, Doctors gotta make their cheddar somehow, being that they save people's lives and all...

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Originally posted by Nifty50:
Britain and all UK residents have free health care... Not sure on the quality of it thought... Shit, Doctors gotta make their cheddar somehow, being that they save people's lives and all...

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You know it's not free right. They are taxed to help generate the $96 billion they need each year to care for the 60+ million citizens. If we had a similar system, could you imagine the costs to cover 333 million citizens?

Here's a good Frontline episode from a few years ago that profiled a couple of different healthcare systems. Its interesting.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

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Right I do understand that they are taxed to shit but atleast they have a standardized health care system.

I dont think that the US should have FREE health care but I do feel that for people or young kids that have serious illnesses or other health issues that they should still be provided proper health care, especially for those people that really need it but cant afford it.
 

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Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on :
 
Well whats affordable???

Whats affordable for me might not be for someone else, or whats affordable for someone else might not be for myself. I cant wait to see the dr's in practice when there is no money to be made
 

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Posted by Y2K 281 (Member # 10132) on :
 
It seems people will never be happy about the way things go. If it's free people will bitch about paying extra taxes, if it's affordable there will still be people bitching about paying for healthcare. It seems like a lot of people in here understand that affordable is a better route. Unfortunately there are a ton of people out there looking for some magical fix for everything in the country. More funding toward everything yet no added taxes. Pipe dreams of many.
 

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Posted by ECOboostin (Member # 4347) on :
 
Affordable is a good question. I tend to think people don't want to spend money on things like healthcare or retirement. They live in a Me! Me! Me! Now! Now! Now! world. People in my area that live in government assisted housing drive tahoes and escalades while talking on iPhones. The U.S government would like me to believe these are the 46 million people in poverty. We are all being fooled here.
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Screw for free. If you don't got the $$ no care for you.
 

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Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
not sure where all my taxes go, an cause we will never know the truth other then what is secretly found or paid media to show us i def believe scandal. so i think if u pay taxes it should be free.
 

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Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
Free healthcare or cheap healthcare won't get you much. It SHOULD get you good coverage but the reality is that it sucks.

For instance it's not uncommon for physician who takes HMO plans to only make $10-20 per visit per patient. They also have an agreement with health care providers where they will make x amount per patient ($20 seems to be about avg for HMO) under their policy per month regardless if they came in or not.

In order for the DR to make any kind of money they have to overload on patients. Overload on patients means you'll be in the waiting room for a long time and will only be seen by the physician for a few minutes before he/she moves on. The kind of care he/she will give is a simple glance at your charts and off you go.

[ September 27, 2012, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: essasin ]
 

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Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 

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Originally posted by ECOboostin:
Affordable is a good question. I tend to think people don't want to spend money on things like healthcare or retirement. They live in a Me! Me! Me! Now! Now! Now! world. People in my area that live in government assisted housing drive tahoes and escalades while talking on iPhones. The U.S government would like me to believe these are the 46 million people in poverty. We are all being fooled here.

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