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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
Took about 12 hours of wrench time, not hard, but pretty time consuming. I went with a set of Livernois stage 3 243's milled to 11.2:1, 2.02/1.6 manley SS valves, Manley Nextek spring and Ti retainers, the whole deal. A custom grind EPS/LXL lobe 230/230 .598 .605 111+2 cam and a set of TFS 7.350 pushrods. I'm expecting 470rw with minimal low end tq loss while being a mid range screamer and pulling solid to 6,800 rpm! All in a 3,060lb car . Ford only but riders, let's hear it....


Replacing valve seals and cleaning the heads


Intake port


Exhaust port


Getting it apart


Done for the day lol


Billet double roller


Going back together


Starting to look like something again


Get'r done? Lol


All done! (this turbo is going on the 5.3 in the video that's going in the all tubular, back halved n caged 65 mustang in the video)



FIRST START UP! no mufflers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4EySTDSkWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ May 02, 2012, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Sounds good. Car looks clean!!

What did all the parts cost if you don't mind me asking. I am always curious with the corvette tax.

[ May 02, 2012, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 

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Posted by arodeast408 (Member # 11335) on :
 

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Took about 12 hours of wrench time, not hard, but pretty time consuming. I went with a set of Livernois stage 3 243's milled to 11.2:1, 2.02/1.6 manley SS valves, Manley Nextek spring and Ti retainers, the whole deal. A custom grind EPS/LXL lobe 230/230 .598 .605 111+2 cam and a set of TFS 7.350 pushrods. I'm expecting 470rw with minimal low end tq loss while being a mid range screamer and pulling solid to 6,800 rpm! All in a 3,060lb car . Ford only but riders, let's hear it....


Replacing valve seals and cleaning the heads


Intake port


Exhaust port


Getting it apart


Done for the day lol


Billet double roller


Going back together


Starting to look like something again


Get'r done? Lol


All done! (this turbo is going on the 5.3 in the video that's going in the all tubular, back halved n caged 65 mustang in the video)



FIRST START UP! no mufflers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4EySTDSkWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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Must say one hell of a job and guaranteed your going to feel that cam only car due to ls6 heads are stock from factory
 

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Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
good job!!! that work was on the stock heads? how much did that cost?and total cost in parts? and smog ? i got a c5 also, i like the power but well u know lol. the beer bottles was a great touch lol.
 

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Posted by a302juGRnot (Member # 10163) on :
 
dam that thing must pull super hard now
 

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Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
The C5Z is the best bang for your buck performance car on the planet. If I could afford to crash a corvette race car I would definitely be racing one instead of a fox. That thing will haul the mail and the motors are pretty much bullet proof.
 

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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
Only thing I bought used were the heads. $1100, brand new from livernois they're $1800. I think I'm into it all about $2200 with gaskets, hardware, injectors (Bosch 36's (42's)). Just to be clear these are the OEM casting head that came on the car but livernoise has CNC'd them and did the valves ect, they flow over 300cfm on the intake @ .600", with excellent low/mid lift flow. I kept the intake exhaust split on the cam to a minimum to increase velocity and keep it peppy for the street.

[ May 02, 2012, 01:48 PM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
 

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Posted by LETHL 03 (Member # 5401) on :
 
Good shit bro, that's a sick ass car
 

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Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on :
 
nice!!! stupid question i think but how far in cam specks can u go before smog is a issue?
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
I was going to say a guy on Norcal lsx was selling a head cam ls2 motor for 4k. But you didn't spent much at all!
 

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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 

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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
nice!!! stupid question i think but how far in cam specks can u go before smog is a issue?

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I would imagine at the very most 2* of overlap, probably less. This cam has 8*
 

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Posted by 2T0NE (Member # 4216) on :
 
NICE!
 

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Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Sounds vary healthy! That zo is is gonna move!
 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Lookin good man!!! I can't wait to get a ride in this thing. Based on how hard my 3,900lb car with the same motor (with a cam & exhaust only) pulls, this thing must be a beast... HELLO low 11's all day!!!
 

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Posted by RONIN (Member # 9987) on :
 
Hell ya, what I want to know is what kind of power difference there is and if the owner can feel a dramatic increase in power...


It sounds like a montser though !
 

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Posted by DIRTY SALLY (Member # 7845) on :
 
coors light is for sissys
 

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Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 

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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
coors light is for sissys

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Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Nice job Scott!Car should be a beast!
 

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Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 

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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
coors light is for sissys

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Originally posted by MikeD.:
Your hella dumb and gay because you drive a corvette. My fox with E303 and underdrives are gonna smoke you.

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:

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Originally posted by MikeD.:
Your hella dumb and gay because you drive a corvette. My fox with E303 and underdrives are gonna smoke you.

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LS2?

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Originally posted by DIRTY SALLY:
coors light is for sissys

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+1
 

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Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
cool story bro
 

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Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
Looks good Scott! Sounds better! bet you wish you had that 95drop still huh??
 

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Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
Very nice job, I bet it feel's good to tackle the job on your own and have to be damm proud on the first start up. Get her tuned and let us know the results. That dude that threw the thumbs up looks like someone i went to HS with that used to drive a stang. It was a v6 with juice, My bad for the confusion if ain't him haha.
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Nice job Scott will I get to see it at grudg at sac race way on the 12th to see some nice ETs
 

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Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
Selling the valve spring compressor? I need one bad.
 

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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 

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Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Nice job Scott will I get to see it at grudg at sac race way on the 12th to see some nice ETs

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Originally posted by SVTGOD:
Nice, post pics of the outside

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Don't have any real pics. To be honest the paint needs and full correction and detail. It's just a black C5Z with black chrome wheels lowered an inch, nothing special lol
 

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Posted by SL0BRA650 (Member # 10274) on :
 
Damn good work!
 

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Posted by 18x10roushes (Member # 5269) on :
 
Oh yea !!!
 

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Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
what cam you running? longtubes? with a full tick hydraulic setup and textrallia clutch you should be able to hit damn near 11 flats maybe high tens, (depends on the driver and tires) my boy's cam only Z06 was only about 1/4 fender behind this c6 we raced, figure with heads that oughtta make it faster?
 

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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:
what cam you running? longtubes? with a full tick hydraulic setup and textrallia clutch you should be able to hit damn near 11 flats maybe high tens, (depends on the driver and tires) my boy's cam only Z06 was only about 1/4 fender behind this c6 we raced, figure with heads that oughtta make it faster?

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Cam specs are in the first post. Not ghetto ass MS3's lol long tubes and off road X, stock Ti cat back. It'll be tick hydraulics and a monster stage 2 with aluminum flywheel. No trying to go balls out at the track and break something, just some tires that can get me a 1.8-9 60' and not break loose in 3rd lol my goal is bottom 11's @ 125. Then when this gets old the 11.2:1 will love the spray
 

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Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:
what cam you running? longtubes? with a full tick hydraulic setup and textrallia clutch you should be able to hit damn near 11 flats maybe high tens, (depends on the driver and tires) my boy's cam only Z06 was only about 1/4 fender behind this c6 we raced, figure with heads that oughtta make it faster?

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Cam specs are in the first post. Not ghetto ass MS3's lol long tubes and off road X, stock Ti cat back. It'll be tick hydraulics and a monster stage 2 with aluminum flywheel. No trying to go balls out at the track and break something, just some tires that can get me a 1.8-9 60' and not break loose in 3rd lol my goal is bottom 11's @ 125. Then when this gets old the 11.2:1 will love the spray

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:
what cam you running? longtubes? with a full tick hydraulic setup and textrallia clutch you should be able to hit damn near 11 flats maybe high tens, (depends on the driver and tires) my boy's cam only Z06 was only about 1/4 fender behind this c6 we raced, figure with heads that oughtta make it faster?

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Cam specs are in the first post. Not ghetto ass MS3's lol long tubes and off road X, stock Ti cat back. It'll be tick hydraulics and a monster stage 2 with aluminum flywheel. No trying to go balls out at the track and break something, just some tires that can get me a 1.8-9 60' and not break loose in 3rd lol my goal is bottom 11's @ 125. Then when this gets old the 11.2:1 will love the spray

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lol there's nothing wrong with the ms series cams, ms3s make ls1s into monsters, I put a ms4 in my boy's 02 z06 and the thing was a fucking monster. try the new mickey thomson street slick, my boys car almost did wheelies, might even be too much traction lol.

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:
what cam you running? longtubes? with a full tick hydraulic setup and textrallia clutch you should be able to hit damn near 11 flats maybe high tens, (depends on the driver and tires) my boy's cam only Z06 was only about 1/4 fender behind this c6 we raced, figure with heads that oughtta make it faster?

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Cam specs are in the first post. Not ghetto ass MS3's lol long tubes and off road X, stock Ti cat back. It'll be tick hydraulics and a monster stage 2 with aluminum flywheel. No trying to go balls out at the track and break something, just some tires that can get me a 1.8-9 60' and not break loose in 3rd lol my goal is bottom 11's @ 125. Then when this gets old the 11.2:1 will love the spray

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lol there's nothing wrong with the ms series cams, ms3s make ls1s into monsters, I put a ms4 in my boy's 02 z06 and the thing was a fucking monster. try the new mickey thomson street slick, my boys car almost did wheelies, might even be too much traction lol.

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Was thinking about those... As far as the MS3/4 goes, I equate it to a E cam lol they're top end screamers, drag/track/freeway cams. This cam will maximize tq under the curve will gaining a shit ton up top. There's no reason to over cam a motor, it's counter productive. Ide rather make 50ft lbs more than a MS3 2,500rpm sooner than make 15hp more at 7k...

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it certainly was an agressive cam, but really driveable, drove it to san diego and back 3 times no problems, but i hear ya, a cam with more mid range would probly be better for daily driving.
 

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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
462/435 are the final #'s. this graph shows what the cam and heads added, the only change in the tune regarding peak #'s really being a/f corrected and 1* less total timing. Not bad I guess. It's a different car, that's for sure. The Vararam needs to be moving to shine as well!


 

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Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
462/435 are the final #'s. this graph shows what the cam and heads added, the only change in the tune regarding peak #'s really being a/f corrected and 1* less total timing. Not bad I guess. It's a different car, that's for sure. The Vararam needs to be moving to shine as well!

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Congrats bro!!! That is QUITE an increase!!! I bet its a damn beast now!!! I hope this one finally satisfied you, because I would be smiling from ear to ear the 1st time I mashed the gas! How is the stock clutch feeling?

[ May 05, 2012, 04:23 AM: Message edited by: *EPIK* ]
 

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Posted by StreakMatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
Congrats Frick. Picked up around 70 rw

I bet it screams on the top end now. Let me know when you are gonna take it out to Sac Raceway, ill come check you out.
 

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Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 

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Originally posted by *EPIK*:

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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
462/435 are the final #'s. this graph shows what the cam and heads added, the only change in the tune regarding peak #'s really being a/f corrected and 1* less total timing. Not bad I guess. It's a different car, that's for sure. The Vararam needs to be moving to shine as well!

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Congrats bro!!! That is QUITE an increase!!! I bet its a damn beast now!!! I hope this one finally satisfied you, because I would be smiling from ear to ear the 1st time I mashed the gas! How is the stock clutch feeling?

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Wow can't deny an lsx with heads an cam can't wait to see out at at the 1320,good job Scott!
 

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Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
very sexy tq curve!!! nice job scotty dog.. time to line you up with the viper!

[ May 06, 2012, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: Mach916 ]
 

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Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
Nice makes me want to buy a vett!! did you get the picts i send of the cobra caliper??
 

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