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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Other than Pacquiao, Cotto is the only other opponent I would want to watch Mayweather fight. He will be systematically broken-down. Mayweather TKO in 10. What do u guys think?
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on
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I'll say it now... Fuck mayweather lol
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on
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I'll say it now... Fuck mayweather lol
I'm with this guy! Between the dodging Manny, beating on his girl and going to jail and not being able to shut his mouth this guy can go away for all I care.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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He isn't dodging Manny...Manny doesn't want to fight him...Mayweather openly challenged him a month ago and Manny refused...assault and battery are different...he has never been convicted of beating a women...His fame is what got him convicted...if he wasn't famous it would just be normal baby mama drama!...it is simple the Marquez fight showed Manny everything he needed to know about Mayweather...he doesn't have a chance...
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on
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How many times has manny called him out he comes up with stipulation/excuse after excuse he even got out o jail using a excuse what a joke
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Manny has never ever called Mayweather out...he has always said "I will fight whoever my promoter wants me to fight"...honestly I don't blame Manny I blame Bob Arum...
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Originally posted by triple b:
How many times has manny called him out he comes up with stipulation/excuse after excuse he even got out o jail using a excuse what a joke
What excuse got him out of jail?
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on
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R u serious wen Freddy roach said there is no one else to beat lol who else whos next huh. The judge release him on "contractual obligations" ie his so called fight with Manny before he was charged lol
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
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Originally posted by triple b:
How many times has manny called him out he comes up with stipulation/excuse after excuse he even got out o jail using a excuse what a joke
What excuse got him out of jail?
The exuse he used to get out of jail was he wanted to fight pacman and pacman's scared. Mayweather even called him personally and asked him to fight because manny's ducking him. But i guess thats smart because arum\pac and all you guys that like pac knows after pacman's last robbery that mayweather would whoop his ass pretty easy and no one wants to see the mighty steroid go down.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Id rather him fight Martinez @ 150 or Canelo. But this was done more to hurt Manny's June 9th card, because a second fight with Cotto was his leading prospect. So this was more a business move. Mayweather will thoroughly outclass Cotto. But Cotto has whiskers on him. I do not see a stoppage coming out of this. Mayweather UD 12 rounds.
Mayweather V Manny is 100% on Bob Arum this time 100%. When it was announced Mayweather was going to jail. Arum was saying "well we were gonna fight him May 5th but he is going to jail". Then when he got the extension it turned to "Why fight in a smaller arena, we can make more money if we wait for the bigger arena". Then it went to "we are not considering Mayweather at this time". And this was to pursue a 4th fight with JMM? They have Manny by the balls. He has the worst boxing contract in history. His biggest take home was 7 million. Manny is getting raped, and it is now hurting his career. He needs to grow a pair and stop letting Arum make him look bad.
[ February 01, 2012, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on
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Gay weather never called anyone the fight wasOn always been on Gayweather is always wanting to add stipulations and SuperRegulator and go above and beyond the boxing association when has Manny ever tested positive to drug abuse when has Gay wether tested positive for physical abuse on a female! He is a turd! And deserves to be Knocked the fuck out by Manny
Posted by 04cobra408 (Member # 4025) on
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COTTO all the way!
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by triple b:
Gay weather never called anyone the fight wasOn always been on Gayweather is always wanting to add stipulations and SuperRegulator and go above and beyond the boxing association when has Manny ever tested positive to drug abuse when has Gay wether tested positive for physical abuse on a female! He is a turd! And deserves to be Knocked the fuck out by Manny
Bet you didnt know this. But one of Mannys stipulations for their first agreement was that Mayweather must weigh 145 coming into the ring. 2 pounds below the welter limit. And for every pound over 145 he weighs, Mayweather must pay 1mill to Manny out his purse. JMM did similar with Mayweather in their fight except the stipulation was 10k each pound over the welter weight limit Mayweather comes in at. So you want to talk about stipulations. Here you have a smaller guy challenging the naturally bigger man, then trying to shrink him and starve him prior to a match. Then trying to get 1 million per pound over he comes in at.
Posted by 4eyecharge (Member # 8219) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by triple b:
Gay weather never called anyone the fight wasOn always been on Gayweather is always wanting to add stipulations and SuperRegulator and go above and beyond the boxing association when has Manny ever tested positive to drug abuse when has Gay wether tested positive for physical abuse on a female! He is a turd! And deserves to be Knocked the fuck out by Manny
Bet you didnt know this. But one of Mannys stipulations for their first agreement was that Mayweather must weigh 145 coming into the ring. 2 pounds below the welter limit. And for every pound over 145 he weighs, Mayweather must pay 1mill to Manny out his purse. JMM did similar with Mayweather in their fight except the stipulation was 10k each pound over the welter weight limit Mayweather comes in at. So you want to talk about stipulations. Here you have a smaller guy challenging the naturally bigger man, then trying to shrink him and starve him prior to a match. Then trying to get 1 million per pound
over he comes in at.
Finally some one that keeps up and knows about boxing I swear u and maddison are the only people that don't talk crazy when boxing comes up in this site..
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Originally posted by triple b:
Gay weather never called anyone the fight wasOn always been on Gayweather is always wanting to add stipulations and SuperRegulator and go above and beyond the boxing association when has Manny ever tested positive to drug abuse when has Gay wether tested positive for physical abuse on a female! He is a turd! And deserves to be Knocked the fuck out by Manny
On Twitter and in a news conference Mayweather said that he wanted to fight no one but Pacquiao...he actually said "Pacquiao I have the date and venue set...let's make the fight happen...set up punk!"...he even called Pac to hash out all the particlulars...offered Manny a 40million guarantee to fight...Manny rejected it and asked for 50/50 revenue split...but Manny forgot in a recent interview he said he would take less than 50/50 to make the fight happen...so Mayweather called his bluff and Manny decided not to fight...it is Manny being unreasonable...ask Cotto...Manny wanted a rematch with Cotto at 147 for Cotto's 154lb title...when Cotto said 150-154 Manny decided to pass on Cotto...again being unreasonable...n8 Mayweather vs Martinez will happen in November or December because Manny will be fighting the Marquez vs Peterson winner...or Top Rank's 4 man tournament...Mayweather vs Pacquiao won't happen until it is pacquiao's last fight so Arum his promoter can suck every last dollar out of his cash cow...
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on
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The endless banter every time mayweather and PAC are mentioned. They both suck if they can't find a way to fight. They need to stfu and box
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Cobra 93-4992:
The endless banter every time mayweather and PAC are mentioned. They both suck if they can't find a way to fight. They need to stfu and box
Manny has Arum in his way. But for the most part I agree on this sentiment.
Rmad
I thought Peterson was ordered to rematch Khan?
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Hot off the press. I just heard this from a very reliable source. Floyd HAD to find a opponent for May 5th pronto. He is going to make a substantial donation to the city of Las Vegas and avoid any jail time. But there is a small part that is hinged on a November fight with Manny. Which supposedly is almost agreed upon.
This source is right about 98% of the time. Lets see what happens.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Peterson doesn't want the fight and Arum is trying to set pacquiao up for November...roach wants Peterson for Pacquiao...the fourth in the tournament is Bradley who will be the opponent on June 9th...if Floyd goes to jail he will not fight pacquiao in November...
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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cotto cuts very easily and has trouble with fast fighters. Cotto whole face was swollen and bruised in his last fight with margacheato. who barely hit him cause cotto ran the whole fight. i see this as an easy win for floyd within 10 rounds to set up a fight with manny in november. if they dont fight in november it will NEVER happen
Posted by 4eyecharge (Member # 8219) on
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Looks like the fight is official, any one know at what weight?
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on
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If you follow boxing Arum said from the beginning this fight would not take place. First Manny's cut needed to heal, then after that he started saying they can't fight because they don't have enough time to build a stadium, and his last excuse was he doesn't even know who represents Floyd in negotiates since he has no promoter so he can't make a fight happen.
I wouldn't believe a Bradley vs Manny fight until its signed. Bradley poses to much of a treat to Arum's money making machine. They will find a way to get Peterson vs Manny.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Originally posted by 4eyecharge:
Looks like the fight is official, any one know at what weight?
154 for Cotto's WBA title
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Originally posted by cees87drop:
If you follow boxing Arum said from the beginning this fight would not take place. First Manny's cut needed to heal, then after that he started saying they can't fight because they don't have enough time to build a stadium, and his last excuse was he doesn't even know who represents Floyd in negotiates since he has no promoter so he can't make a fight happen.
I wouldn't believe a Bradley vs Manny fight until its signed. Bradley poses to much of a treat to Arum's money making machine. They will find a way to get Peterson vs Manny.
Funny thing is Arum also said that Mayweather vs Cotto would never happen and that Cotto would stay with his promotion company...Peterson would actually be just a tough as Bradley...either one would be high risk low reward...Peterson was requested by Freddie roach for his revenge from the khan loss...I don't think there is an opponent for Pacquiao short of Martinez at 150 that would be better than Mayweather vs Cotto...Also if Floyd goes to jail I doubt he would entertain a comeback fight being Pacquiao 3 months later...
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on
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fuck mayweather and bob arum...i dislike both of them for obvious reasons. all of boxing and fans can blame bob arum for not taking this fight. smh. i just wish pacman was more "in charge" of his fights...hes just too soft spoken!!!
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
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Originally posted by cees87drop:
If you follow boxing Arum said from the beginning this fight would not take place. First Manny's cut needed to heal, then after that he started saying they can't fight because they don't have enough time to build a stadium, and his last excuse was he doesn't even know who represents Floyd in negotiates since he has no promoter so he can't make a fight happen.
I wouldn't believe a Bradley vs Manny fight until its signed. Bradley poses to much of a treat to Arum's money making machine. They will find a way to get Peterson vs Manny.
Funny thing is Arum also said that Mayweather vs Cotto would never happen and that Cotto would stay with his promotion company...Peterson would actually be just a tough as Bradley...either one would be high risk low reward...Peterson was requested by Freddie roach for his revenge from the khan loss...I don't think there is an opponent for Pacquiao short of Martinez at 150 that would be better than Mayweather vs Cotto...Also if Floyd goes to jail I doubt he would entertain a comeback fight being Pacquiao 3 months later...
If Cotto was still with Arum this fight would never happen.
I honestly think feel like Peterson has no chance. Khan, Marquez, and Pac all want want to fight him because they feel he is an easy win.
Bradley>Pac
Pac>Peterson
Floyd>everyone 147 and below
[ February 02, 2012, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: cees87drop ]
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by cees87drop:
If you follow boxing Arum said from the beginning this fight would not take place. First Manny's cut needed to heal, then after that he started saying they can't fight because they don't have enough time to build a stadium, and his last excuse was he doesn't even know who represents Floyd in negotiates since he has no promoter so he can't make a fight happen.
I wouldn't believe a Bradley vs Manny fight until its signed. Bradley poses to much of a treat to Arum's money making machine. They will find a way to get Peterson vs Manny.
Bradley is now promoted by Arum I believe. This fight will happen and I guarantee Bradley will not let his hands go. Just like Cotto and Clottey.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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Bradley sold his soul for a shot a Manny...there is no way Arum will allow his cash cow to be beaten by a boxing nobody...this is just another bs fight Arum is making to steal more of Pacquiao's money...
On another note, the actual negotiations for this Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight was done without Arum being a part of it...and they just couldn't agree on the revenue split...Pacquiao offered Mayweather a rebuttal to his $40 million offer, 45/45 of total revenue with the final 10% going to the winner...Mayweather wants 65/35 or 60/40...so I doubt they will agree about that...
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Bradley sold his soul for a shot a Manny...there is no way Arum will allow his cash cow to be beaten by a boxing nobody...this is just another bs fight Arum is making to steal more of Pacquiao's money...
On another note, the actual negotiations for this Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight was done without Arum being a part of it...and they just couldn't agree on the revenue split...Pacquiao offered Mayweather a rebuttal to his $40 million offer, 45/45 of total revenue with the final 10% going to the winner...Mayweather wants 65/35 or 60/40...so I doubt they will agree about that...
Through out all his fights. Manny's biggest payday was 7 million. Arum is raping him. He will not get a better from Arum than the 40 mill guaranteed from Mayweather. He should just take that to be honest. Arum is not guaranteeing Mannys money which is sad.
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on
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It has said that the figures presented by mayweather through the las Vegas commission are not completely accurate based upon the fact that Pacquiao is not a us citizen and most of he purse would come through a Filipino cable company...also the 7million is how much he received within 24hrs of his fight...it screams he is being taken advantage of
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by rmadison007:
It has said that the figures presented by mayweather through the las Vegas commission are not completely accurate based upon the fact that Pacquiao is not a us citizen and most of he purse would come through a Filipino cable company...also the 7million is how much he received within 24hrs of his fight...it screams he is being taken advantage of
LOL! yeah right! you think some third world country cable company is paying manny millions of dollars for his fights? half those fuckers in that broke down country probably dont even have televisions! Arum is raping Pacroid for his purse. hell, I would not be suprised if Golden Boy still gets a cut of Manny's purse due to the fact that his dumb ass signed TWO CONTRACTS with different promoters
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