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Posted by blown doors off (Member # 10713) on
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What points for what times in qrt mile?
Also going rates for the cage work?
Posted by blown doors off (Member # 10713) on
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Maybe this should be in tech talk sorry
Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on
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Talk to iron50 he will set you up nice the best way possible. I'll be a customer soon and I'm going to his shop saturday.
Posted by norcalstangman (Member # 8387) on
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I'm a customer of iron50. He's building me a drift cage. He's got other customers lined up as well. He's a cool dude with great prices an quality work. I recomend contacting him
Posted by cobra clone nprogrss (Member # 10342) on
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Originally posted by norcalstangman:
I'm a customer of iron50. He's building me a drift cage. He's got other customers lined up as well. He's a cool dude with great prices an quality work. I recomend contacting him
+10000
Posted by 65 Fastback Road Race (Member # 11675) on
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F.O.D fabrication on demand or Jonathan or Iron 50.
You all probably know my car it was in his shop for 2 month the primered and blue 65 fastback that he posted pics of every where like he did a bunch of work to it but didn’t do a thing. I got his number from this forum. Called, made an appointment to come see his work, got there, and no one was there. Left 8x10 pics of the exact cage I wanted in the exact car as mine. He called me back we talked. He quoted me $800 T&M for a 6 point cage. I must of asked 5 times if he was sure about that price. I figured well he's not bonded, insured, or safety certified and it was going to be a cash job, no receipt so no liability! And going to be one of his first cages, And if you stop and think about it, its 12 welds and 4 bends. If I had a bender and a tigger Id do it myself! He says he’s opening a shop as soon as its open he'll give me a call. I get the call. I insure my car for the maximum in case it burns to the ground or get stolen in good old Hayward and trailer it down. WE TALK ABOUT THE ROAD RACING NASA and SCCA SPECS HE DOSENT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE! I HAVE TO GO HOME AND FORWARD HIM THE LINKS TO THE RULES! I figure you get what you pay for! I tell him I know his estimate is low so there’s no rush use my car for fill work when he’s slow. 2- Months go by and I happen to be in the area and stop by. While I’m there, He’s installing a BOLT IN CAGE and Sub frame connectors in a 96 white Saleen and some sub frames and torque boxes in a fox notch back. My car is untouched. He says to me that he’s going to order the material so he makes a phone call and gets a price which seems high to me so I call VB in Petaluma and get the same material for $3 less a foot. I tell him Ill order the material and deliver it when does he want it? Jonathan says he needs to talk to his engineer and get me a quote. I say you already gave me a quote of $800 bucks or my car would not be here! Ohh OK. I tell him when he starts to work on it to give me a call and Ill come down and help so we make to sure to get it right! I get a call an hour later from him telling me that he talked to his engineer and it’s going to cost $1600 with out material. I asked him why would I bring my car to him with no experience, not bonded, insured, and safety uncertified and didn’t even know what the rules were and pay the same price as Griggs racing which do it cages all the time and are safety certified! I went down the next day and picked up my car!
Before anyone else wastes $200 bucks in gas trailer their car there read this! His work is unproven there are no cars racing on a track with a cage that he has built from scratch, if there were we would see pictures of that instead of building overhangs or butt plate welds! He is not safety certified for any sanction of racing. If you have an ok car that needs some cheap work done like a Bolt in Cage, sub frame or torque boxes installed and you don’t know how to do it yourself, he’s probably your guy! If you have a nice car that’s actually worth something and you’re going to be doing some REAL RACING your going to need to bring it to a professional shop. When I went down there and looked at his tools, I should have known! I didnt even see a welder! I’m just glad I don’t have to go into a turn and wonder if I flip if I’m going DIE! Hope this helps sorry so long
[ March 20, 2012, 08:28 PM: Message edited by: 65 Fastback Road Race ]
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Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on
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Lmfao ^
@ the cop in the back doing absolutely nothing.....
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on
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Originally posted by 65 Fastback Road Race:
F.O.D fabrication on demand or Jonathan or Iron 50.
You all probably know my car it was in his shop for 2 month the primered and blue 65 fastback that he posted pics of every where like he did a bunch of work to it but didn’t do a thing. I got his number from this forum. Called, made an appointment to come see his work, got there, and no one was there. Left 8x10 pics of the exact cage I wanted in the exact car as mine. He called me back we talked. He quoted me $800 T&M for a 6 point cage. I must of asked 5 times if he was sure about that price. I figured well he's not bonded, insured, or safety certified and it was going to be a cash job, no receipt so no liability! And going to be one of his first cages, And if you stop and think about it, its 12 welds and 4 bends. If I had a bender and a tigger Id do it myself! He says he’s opening a shop as soon as its open he'll give me a call. I get the call. I insure my car for the maximum in case it burns to the ground or get stolen in good old Hayward and trailer it down. WE TALK ABOUT THE ROAD RACING NASA and SCCA SPECS HE DOSENT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE! I HAVE TO GO HOME AND FORWARD HIM THE LINKS TO THE RULES! I figure you get what you pay for! I tell him I know his estimate is low so there’s no rush use my car for fill work when he’s slow. 2- Months go by and I happen to be in the area and stop by. While I’m there, He’s installing a BOLT IN CAGE and Sub frame connectors in a 96 white Saleen and some sub frames and torque boxes in a fox notch back. My car is untouched. He says to me that he’s going to order the material so he makes a phone call and gets a price which seems high to me so I call VB in Petaluma and get the same material for $3 less a foot. I tell him Ill order the material and deliver it when does he want it? Jonathan says he needs to talk to his engineer and get me a quote. I say you already gave me a quote of $800 bucks or my car would not be here! Ohh OK. I tell him when he starts to work on it to give me a call and Ill come down and help so we make to sure to get it right! I get a call an hour later from him telling me that he talked to his engineer and it’s going to cost $1600 with out material. I asked him why would I bring my car to him with no experience, not bonded, insured, and safety uncertified and didn’t even know what the rules were and pay the same price as Griggs racing which do it cages all the time and are safety certified! I went down the next day and picked up my car!
Before anyone else wastes $200 bucks in gas trailer their car there read this! His work is unproven there are no cars racing on a track with a cage that he has built from scratch, if there were we would see pictures of that instead of building overhangs or butt plate welds! He is not safety certified for any sanction of racing. If you have an ok car that needs some cheap work done like a Bolt in Cage, sub frame or torque boxes installed and you don’t know how to do it yourself, he’s probably your guy! If you have a nice car that’s actually worth something and you’re going to be doing some REAL RACING your going to need to bring it to a professional shop. When I went down there and looked at his tools, I should have known! I didnt even see a welder! I’m just glad I don’t have to go into a turn and wonder if I flip if I’m going DIE! Hope this helps sorry so long
I sent him a PM a month ago for a price on a cage and got quoted $1600 as well. For the way the phone call went and feeling I got I will be doing business elsewhere. Probably just wait for me and my brother in laws schedule to free up together and do it ourselves. Not to say he is a bad guy, but if your quoting people prices that high I should have a shop number to call.
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on
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Haha funny shit
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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1600 high for a roll cage?
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
1600 high for a roll cage? [/.
it is a deciding factor when someone doesn't know what they're doing or what rules are in classes ect. You don't go buy a $50 steak from chilis and think its as good as a $50 steak from say Morton's steak house
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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makes sence. i wouldnt stop at chilies for a 50 dollar steak tho lol
Posted by 93coupessp (Member # 8418) on
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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
makes sence. i wouldnt stop at chilies for a 50 dollar steak tho lol
Me neither
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on
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Originally posted by Duncan Motors:
1600 high for a roll cage?
I dont think Its crazy high, but if I am spending that much I want the feeling like I am dealing with pros.
This is the cage I had in my old car, but not chromoly, If you want chromoly it is only $439. It was just hold and weld, and me and my boy did it in a day.
http://wildridesracecars.com/store/product.php?productid=16158&cat=253&page=1
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on
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Starting to see a trend here! Amazing how one unhappy customer can hurt your business. Word travels far
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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i know what it takes to bend tubing,around interior, buy the material, buy a bender for the tubing, and install,and then weld for countless hours, i wouldnt do it for under 2000. the kits u guys talk about just holding and welding is definitly the way to go if you want a mass produced part, and your u wana save some money, and u know how, or have a welder friend thay will hook u up.and some of these after market kits are freaking greAT! and the fox body they make kits ath fit really well. but a coustom to your car, tight fit so ur not banging your head, and can get in the car a bit easier, kinda a roll cage cost alot more. so it depends on what u guys wana do.but if u start from scratch it cost and a its lot of time.
Posted by 65 Fastback Road Race (Member # 11675) on
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It was $1600 without materials but for that price Id rather have a professianal shop do it with a receipt and a certification!
I was quoted $1300 with materials for a 6pt nasa/scca certified cage from two other shops that do nothing but cages. One of them has about 100 cages in the 240 cars in the 24 hour lemens race at sears point this weekend Im going to check out there work.
Ohh and the car was gutted and glass removed
[ March 21, 2012, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: 65 Fastback Road Race ]
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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i understand the certs and the worries u have. and that,s a nice car to take a chance on. there are some great guys at infinoin a couple are my friends probably lol. glad u where able to move on with only a gas bill loss an a lil time and a lil frustration. the the guy that does the 240 cages u speak of, is it cricks fabrications? hes very good! works out of cortex. takes a lot of pride and goes the extra mile.
Posted by BLK35th (Member # 4685) on
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This Cricks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecgTj-tU80
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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lol yeah, hes got the most cheesiest commercial possible i think.but hes dam god. that's him in his garage, but he works out of cortex
Posted by 65 Fastback Road Race (Member # 11675) on
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No sorry I ment he did like 100 of the 240 cars on the field at lemons race
That shop was Evil Genius in sac Im going to check out some of his cages this weekend.
Lets hope I never have to use it.
You know you hit the nail on the head with takes alot of pride in his workmanship thats what Im looking for, I have built this car from the ground up, and had it forever and dont like subing stuff out.
Ill be emailing cricks!
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated?
[ March 21, 2012, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: 65 Fastback Road Race ]
Posted by Duncan Motors (Member # 7045) on
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i seen his work and u wont have any complaints or shouldnt lol. i was in one of these last lemons race,s down here and there was quite a few of his cages out there, he even had a car out there as well i think
Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on
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Originally posted by BLK35th:
This Cricks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lecgTj-tU80
That guy is truly qualified and proven. Good friend and excellent work. PM me for any additional info or a quote
Posted by 70stang351w (Member # 9948) on
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^^^ will be bringing my 1996 here for my through floor subframes / lower torq box in a few weeks
[ March 22, 2012, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: 70stang351w ]
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