2011 5.0 - Bad Rod Bearing Already! - Northern California Ford Owners

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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on 2011-11-28 12:08 PM :

Here is a 2011 5.0 with 4000 miles on it with a bad rod bearing

Posted by JUNKYARD5.0 (Member # 10398) on 2011-11-28 12:11 PM :

I wanted to pick one of these up, but seems to be too many bugs.

Would you say this is a frequent problem in these new 5.0's?

[ November 28, 2011, 12:11 PM: Message edited by: JUNKYARD5.0 ]

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on 2011-11-28 12:17 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by JUNKYARD5.0:
I wanted to pick one of these up, but seems to be too many bugs.

Would you say this is a frequent problem in these new 5.0's?

No but #8 piston is!LOL

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on 2011-11-28 12:19 PM :

Hey Lee, I take it the customer didnt buy the warranty from Ford? OR did they already Void it?

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on 2011-11-28 12:21 PM :

No it's getting a new motor from Ford under warranty

Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on 2011-11-28 12:22 PM :

People need to check their oil like the owners manual says.
I've seen guys run these motors OUT of oil before the first oil change (5000+ miles).

They will use significant amounts of oil with the factory fill (1qt+ every 1K miles). It seems once the first oil change is out of the way they use far less. Must be some sort of break-in oil the factory is using.
The PCV is also a problem, especially when compression braking. The stock PCV is horribly free flowing, people have reported significant amounts of oil in the intake manifold.

My 2012 burned 1/2 qt in less than 500 miles.
I did an oil change with Ford Brand Oil and installed a more restrictive PCV from a GT500. It hasn't used any significant amount of oil in the last 700 miles.

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on 2011-11-28 12:22 PM :

Im sure he was ball's deep in the throttle from day 1.

Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on 2011-11-28 12:23 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
No it's getting a new motor from Ford under warranty

score!

Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on 2011-11-28 12:24 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by MikeD.:
Im sure he was ball's deep in the throttle from day 1.

10 minutes after delivery I had my GT WOT on the dyno with 87 in the tank. LOL

Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on 2011-11-28 12:44 PM :

Anything can break, no matter how new or what brand, otherwise mechanics wouldnt have work to do.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on 2011-11-28 12:50 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:

My 2012 burned 1/2 qt in less than 500 miles.
I did an oil change with Ford Brand Oil and installed a more restrictive PCV from a GT500. It hasn't used any significant amount of oil in the last 700 miles.

Thats Solid advice right there!

Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on 2011-11-28 12:55 PM :

Got one here too...6,000 miles on it.

Cold Air Intake and tune done by a shop well known here. #8 cylinder went bye bye.
Tuner said not his issue, Ford said warranty voided due to tune.
It was a lose, lose situation for the guy.
Sucks....only a cold air and tune, and this is his result.
We are pulling the motor and tearing it down to bare block. Installing a Livernois FORGED rotating assembly.

[ November 28, 2011, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: STEED ]

Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on 2011-11-28 01:10 PM :

The #8 is an interesting one...
I originally thought it was an ignition timing issue (tuners adding global spark), but I've seen factory lean issues On stone stock cars and logged them. I believe there's more going on.
No doubt high ignition timing, a lean condition, or lack of oil can take out any motor. The modular Ford has always run hotter on the driver's side rear (#8).

Time will tell where the problem lies.

Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on 2011-11-28 01:20 PM :

these cars have too many issues... the other owner on here his cars number 8 piston took a shit too.. over on svtperformance alot of people are having issues with the manual tranny too.. stay away till ford figures it out.

Posted by *BlownMach1* (Member # 5400) on 2011-11-28 03:30 PM :

Damn I been waiting for all the bugs to be worked out, I want one but can't afford to deal with it if it blows up on a brand new car!! I'll stick with my termi for now!

Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on 2011-11-28 03:38 PM :

oh im glad i bought my challenger then one of these...i came real close too.. lets hope it doesnt turn into a major problem for ford. Im still pissed about newer fords models since i lost 3 spark plugs on my f-150. Sorry but it put a sour taste when it came time to buying a new car & truck. now i own a new dodge truck and new dodge car.

Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on 2011-11-28 03:59 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by MikeD.:
Im sure he was ball's deep in the throttle from day 1.

LOL That was my first thought, fuck breakin her in or lookin at the oil

[ November 28, 2011, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]

Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on 2011-11-28 04:00 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by STEED:
Got one here too...6,000 miles on it.

Cold Air Intake and tune done by a shop well known here. #8 cylinder went bye bye.
Tuner said not his issue, Ford said warranty voided due to tune.
It was a lose, lose situation for the guy.
Sucks....only a cold air and tune, and this is his result.
We are pulling the motor and tearing it down to bare block. Installing a Livernois FORGED rotating assembly.

Ouch ! what a bummer

Posted by phonso302 (Member # 9260) on 2011-11-28 04:12 PM :

In before the

"My pushrod 5.0 has 250k miles and hasn't thrown a rod"

Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on 2011-11-28 06:16 PM :

Pushrod for the win!
My stock block has maybe 160k had it for five years and beat on it since day 3 after i got the driving dwn lol. Never had any major issue other then head gasket due to supercharger. Oh nd i rev up 6.5-7k rpms. Haha. Gotta love the pushrods! 302

quote:
Originally posted by phonso302:
In before the

"My pushrod 5.0 has 250k miles and hasn't thrown a rod"

Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on 2011-11-28 08:18 PM :

So far it seems like the #8 going south is limited to cars with improper tunes. The tranny is another issue. Fortunately, the Boss engine has forged internals and it also uses a different clutch/pressure plate. I wish it had a different tranny too but it seems like Ford is getting a handle on the tranny issues. Either way, it won't be my daily driver.

Posted by SwEeT 03 Gt (Member # 10283) on 2011-11-28 08:25 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by phonso302:
In before the

"My pushrod 4.9 has 250k miles and hasn't thrown a rod"

fixed

Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on 2011-11-28 08:34 PM :

shit happens when you dont know shit about the car you buy. people these days want the car to tell them everything damn near when to whipe there ass. did everyone forget get once a week or everytime you hit the gas station your suppose to check your fluids an tire pressure.

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on 2011-11-28 08:46 PM :

" I see a thingy that twist off with a pic of a genie lamp on it? Is that where I put the oil? "

-Future woman calling the Ford tech line about adding oil to her new mustang- [Razz]

Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on 2011-11-28 10:50 PM :

Ive got a buddy who had the same thing happen to his and its stock.It couldnt've had more than 5k on it either.Used up all the oil.This SHOULD NOT happen to a brand new car,i know you should check your fluids but this is ridiculous.

[ November 28, 2011, 10:55 PM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]

Posted by SlowStockFox (Member # 1081) on 2011-11-28 11:04 PM :

i could be wrong and what not.... but the oil could be seeping into new block and rotaing assm. it is a fresh motor. i know most motors dont really take that much. as shaun said could just be the oil ford is using. im unsure as to my self. i havent even seen a new 5.0 up close. but it seems as if you can get past this 5-7k miles thing is a monster. u cant expect a new mechanical product to just rev the fuck out with out checking on it. i know if i ever get the chance to buy a new car ide check it ever 300-400 miles or a new motor. ford is doing good power wise.... lets just hope the motors just dont suck

Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on 2011-11-28 11:51 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
Ive got a buddy who had the same thing happen to his and its stock.It couldnt've had more than 5k on it either.Used up all the oil.This SHOULD NOT happen to a brand new car,i know you should check your fluids but this is ridiculous.

You may be right but at the same time you should inspect the car even more when its brand new..don't all you guys remember that many of the old 5.0s would use oil from Day one. Infact many times between oil changes you would Have to add a quart or so. I'm not saying it should be using that much oil. But how dumb is the owner as in the 5k miles he drove he never check the oil. This is performance car an let's not forget performance cars have always need to.be check on regulary.

[ November 28, 2011, 11:54 PM: Message edited by: Beastly GT500 TVS ]

Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on 2011-11-28 11:53 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by SlowStockFox:
i could be wrong and what not.... but the oil could be seeping into new block and rotaing assm. it is a fresh motor. i know most motors dont really take that much. as shaun said could just be the oil ford is using. im unsure as to my self. i havent even seen a new 5.0 up close. but it seems as if you can get past this 5-7k miles thing is a monster. u cant expect a new mechanical product to just rev the fuck out with out checking on it. i know if i ever get the chance to buy a new car ide check it ever 300-400 miles or a new motor. ford is doing good power wise.... lets just hope the motors just dont suck

What else is wired is that the new 5.0 has an 8qt oil pan setup..which is a lot more than just about any other stock mustang in the past. So it must be using a lot an fast.

Posted by Broke4.6 (Member # 9085) on 2011-11-28 11:56 PM :

A lot of people do not check there oil on new cars and this is the result to what happens!! It's like an ls1 or any high performance motor..they use a little bit of oil..check it regularlary and you won't have a problem! That's my 2 cents anyway

Posted by Beastly GT500 TVS (Member # 9723) on 2011-11-28 11:57 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by Broke4.6:
A lot of people do not check there oil on new cars and this is the result to what happens!! It's like an ls1 or any high performance motor..they use a little bit of oil..check it regularlary and you won't have a problem! That's my 2 cents anyway

Exactly

Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on 2011-11-29 07:04 AM :

Look,i love Fords and the new 5.0 as much as any Mustang guy,probably more.But this is embarrassing to see,and i know some new designs have theyre bugs.But NO,i mean NO new car should use that much oil or spin a bearing with less than 10K miles,come on.Theres no legitimate excuse,i still love the new engine but wow.Theyve gotta get to the bottom of this.Id still take a 12 second 2011/12 5.0 over an 8 second Chevy though. [Razz]

Posted by SlowStockFox (Member # 1081) on 2011-11-29 08:11 AM :

8qt pan and it can burn all that in 5k miles. wtf

Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on 2011-11-29 04:23 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by SlowStockFox:
8qt pan and it can burn all that in 5k miles. wtf

This.

[ November 29, 2011, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]

Posted by SSF SVT (Member # 8319) on 2011-11-29 04:27 PM :

Thank god I cant afford one.

Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on 2011-11-29 04:36 PM :

This isn't a Ford fuck up at all. I was just talking to an ex chevy tech and he told me about how they do the same thing with the Z06 motors.... They also have an extensive break in time too.
You should check the damn oil in your car anyways every other week!

Posted by 90GT510 (Member # 9199) on 2011-11-29 07:00 PM :

since you guys are on the topic, i have a 2007 gt wit 62k on the clock. i want to use mobil 1 full synthetic. will it be fine or start leaking oil like foxes. btw this is my first mustang that isnt a fox.

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on 2011-11-29 07:54 PM :

quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
This isn't a Ford fuck up at all. I was just talking to an ex chevy tech and he told me about how they do the same thing with the Z06 motors.... They also have an extensive break in time too.
You should check the damn oil in your car anyways every other week!

Posted by 8NOTCH8 (Member # 4216) on 2011-11-29 08:18 PM :

is this not covered by warranty?

Posted by Y2K 281 (Member # 10132) on 2011-11-29 10:04 PM :

With how these cars are built and how crappy our gas can be I would just begin saving for a built shortblock the moment I sign the paperwork with the dealer.

Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on 2011-11-30 05:23 AM :

quote:
Originally posted by Y2K 281:
With how these cars are built and how crappy our gas can be I would just begin saving for a built shortblock the moment I sign the paperwork with the dealer.

This!
High compression, variable cam timing and crap fuel is why I run E85 in the shop 2012 5.0!
I have the Ford build and clearance specs for the Coyote.... Everything is tight for emissions standards. .006" top right gap tight.

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