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Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2011/10/gov-jerry-brown-announces-he-has-signed-bill-allowing-illegal-immigrants-access-to-college-aid.html

^ Really? We are in debt up to our eyeballs in this state and this is a great idea? I'm so sick and tired of this damn state & the retards who keep voting for this kind of crap.
Our community college's are packed now.... With people getting money to go for free ( or damn near free ) it's gonna take even longer for kids to get their degrees.

What is it going to take to make California voters realize they need to wake up and vote for budget minded people? Does the whole state need to go bankrupt? How about even higher
taxes and bridge toll. Oh and CARB is getting worse and worse.... I know how much we all love smog laws.
Rant over [Frown]
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
What about the people who grew up here, Hispanic/White/Black/Asian/etc? Why should they have second-dibs at getting into JCs?

Really a shame that this type of legislation is able to gain footing
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Yeah it's sad that our own kids born here are not treated better then illegals children.... [BS flag]
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
Well I don't think that illegals are even going to take advanged of this. Maybe a 3% at most. But yes I do agree and I'm getting sick of this state aswell.
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
Well I don't think that illegals are even going to take advanged of this. Maybe a 3% at most. But yes I do agree and I'm getting sick of this state aswell.

Lol so true. .. Its just a thing to make him look good for the Hispanic community Imma assuming?
 
Posted by BackwardSnake (Member # 10857) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
Well I don't think that illegals are even going to take advanged of this. Maybe a 3% at most. But yes I do agree and I'm getting sick of this state aswell.

3% too many, how is this okay, what are you sick of?
 
Posted by dvuspny (Member # 10949) on :
 
Well said....all of this is true. All the avenues for free @?!!^ and American born people are last to get help at all; and offered shat!!!! If any!!!! ..... How the fork do "we"work and pay taxes funding these programs all these years and at times of high layoff rates, foreclosures and market crash if you will. ....We can't get approved for any of these very same programs. Wtf???
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Man don't even get me started on this lol it wont be a huge number of people but still and CA isn't the only state that does this lol shitty thing is that US citizens from out of state have to pay high ass tuition rates might as well say you are illegal and get free in state aid LOL CA will never wake up this state blindly votes for Democrats like Jerry Brown every election hell that clown already had the job once!! If you came to this country as a kid but now you want to go to college and get a job to supposedly be a productive citizen why don't you get your papers?? It's just sad man I'm not saying voting for a Republican is a great idea either but our damn government needs to wake up how many people on here are unemployed, can't pay for school or are barely making it check to check while paying high ass taxes, and what is Jerry doing for you????

[ October 09, 2011, 12:13 AM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
 
Posted by anderthizzle (Member # 7910) on :
 
Im gonna get me and my kids some green cards and pretend not to speak english so we can get all the free money that this f*cked up state gives non americans.Then maybe we can live the American DREAM!
 
Posted by 68stanger (Member # 7842) on :
 
I really don't know how thats actually going to work...can someone break it down for me, the way i see it. If they get a degree in "whatever" who does the college issue the degree to? without a social security number, who is this degree attached to?
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
It allways cracks me up when the right wing dip shits complain about the "illegals". Unless you are a native American Indian, I would shut the fuck up.

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think We need more illegal Asian women in this country. [patriot] [burnout]
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
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[ October 09, 2011, 06:33 AM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.

The shitty thing is they tend to send their money back "home" so working to earn a high wage and then shipping that money out of the country does us NO good. I'm ashamed to say I voted for that piece of shit but I'm still afraid to see what Meg would have done to the state...... the old douche and turd choice. People want to look at my political views and think I vote along party lines when in all honesty I try to vote for who I think will take the best care of us in the long run. Brown isn't a good choice but still I'm fairly certain he's better for us than the douche.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
Jerry Brown just wants to destroy the State of California. Our tax money should be going to more important things like maybe our own citizens.
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
It allways cracks me up when the right wing dip shits complain about the "illegals". Unless you are a native American Indian, I would shut the fuck up.

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think We need more illegal Asian women in this country. [patriot] [burnout]

Are you native American?
 
Posted by BackwardSnake (Member # 10857) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.

The shitty thing is they tend to send their money back "home" so working to earn a high wage and then shipping that money out of the country does us NO good.
This is statement is absolutely absurd, so your telling me a college educated illegal immigrant will be sending there money back to Mexico, think about that, oops did I say Mexico, now a day laborer who works tax free may be more likely to send money back to Canada, Iceland, Italy or Mexico.

[ October 09, 2011, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: BackwardSnake ]
 
Posted by wilber650 (Member # 10360) on :
 
I get you guys points... But when there's soo many citizens going around that don't even want to go to college nd just plain waste the opportunity they got? Nd an ilegal who want to go can't go be cause they can't afford it nd end up becomin some dope dealer or something worst? To support their families?? I believe it will be good... I'm not sayin there's those Hispanics who don't appreciate nothing nd they r jus a shame.. But u can't judge a whole race by them...
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wilber650:
I get you guys points... But when there's soo many citizens going around that don't even want to go to college nd just plain waste the opportunity they got? Nd an ilegal who want to go can't go be cause they can't afford it nd end up becomin some dope dealer or something worst? To support their families?? I believe it will be good... I'm not sayin there's those Hispanics who don't appreciate nothing nd they r jus a shame.. But u can't judge a whole race by them...

Nobody's judging Hispanics in this thread - or if they are, it's a mark of ignorance - because that's not what this is about. An illegal who wants to go to school, regardless of nation of origin, should take the responsibility to become a nationalized citizen, pay taxes, and support the system that has been and will continue to provide for them and support them.

The argument that that US citizens are passing on the opportunity to attend college is somewhat correct - some are/some aren't. However, if you've had any experience with the JC system over the past 10 years or so, you'd realize how difficult it is to get into the classes that you need, and, once registered, how overcrowded those classrooms are.

In my eyes, it boils down to this: 1) All people need to be treated fairly and justly, regardless of nation of origin; 2) A citizen in their own country should have first rights and first access to the government-sponsored educational, health, and occupational institutions that they, the taxpayer, continue to fund
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
It allways cracks me up when the right wing dip shits complain about the "illegals". Unless you are a native American Indian, I would shut the fuck up.

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think We need more illegal Asian women in this country. [patriot] [burnout]

I realize your role on this site is to go against the popular opinion whenever you pop your head up ever 3-4 months or so. I get that.

However, do you truly not see the passing of this Dream Act as a way to make our citizens second in line in their own country? I agree that it may have the positive, intended effect that you mentioned, but to do so at the expense of those that either a) grew up in this country, or b) nationalized is a disservice to those kids trying to further their lives through education. As Americans (please, spare me the rhetoric), we need to have priority in our own country, no questions asked.

I was looking around and found some reactions to the DREAM Act:

"We have American citizens without jobs, families homeless, and hungry, and tax payers are supposed to pay to take care of illegals, and now send them to college. When is this nightmare going to end."

"Ok brown, how about some relief for us LEGAL US citizens who went to college and now are in a mountain of debt, like me [Big Grin] !!!!"


By the way, you still dealing Blackjack out at Jackson Rancheria, Big Chief? Yea, didn't think so.
 
Posted by wilber650 (Member # 10360) on :
 
Well I'm pretty sure lots of them would like that.. But it takes long nd cost money that a lot of people donsent have.. And I do agree that it should be fair for all but when did this get passed like this week?? Or so citizens been havin it? But yeah I attend a jc nd I realize how hard is to get it... My only thing is that people make it out to be like damm now we r goin. To juss sink down cus they getting help to study.. But rose r my thoughts can't change somebodys mind... [patriot]
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
I haven't been to college in a long time but how do illegals even register don't you need a social??

Also, why is it that everytime someone speaks out against a dumb ass policy they automatically get accused of being a right winger or a racist??? How bout the fact that this is just F'n stupid!!

I immigrated to this country, almost a decade later finally became a citizen, had to join the Army to get the GI Bill cause that was the only way I could afford to pay for college so I think I've earned the right to say if you're illegal in this
country and you want benefits you need to get your
citizenship!

[ October 09, 2011, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
 
Posted by 98 ROUSH (Member # 10309) on :
 
God Bless America [patriot]
 
Posted by 90LXdiaz (Member # 10265) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTT2fNyKgUE&feature=related
 
Posted by Rob1 (Member # 9444) on :
 
illegals going to college? LOL More like have 5 kids and collect off them and live off that..
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BackwardSnake:
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.

The shitty thing is they tend to send their money back "home" so working to earn a high wage and then shipping that money out of the country does us NO good.
This is statement is absolutely absurd, so your telling me a college educated illegal immigrant will be sending there money back to Mexico, think about that, oops did I say Mexico, now a day laborer who works tax free may be more likely to send money back to Canada, Iceland, Italy or Mexico.
How is my statement absurd? If they refuse to come to the country legally then what makes you think they are going to spend a majority of the money here? The US is where most of Mexico's money comes from, people here sending money back. So an illegal is going to take some classes, get some sort of education and then what? What company is going to employ them? Sure, a small landscaping company or a construction company will be able to get away with it but its not like they are going to walk in to some fortune 500 company and get an office with a window.
 
Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :
 
I'm moving to Arizona ftw
 
Posted by BackwardSnake (Member # 10857) on :
 
Illegal aliens FTW
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes in life?

I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck about immigrants.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes inline
I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck about immigrants.

If they been here so long and they want to be productive adults and take advantage of the US system and its benefits they should become citizens right? Would you not expect the same if you went to Mexico?

[ October 09, 2011, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: fstryde3 ]
 
Posted by chevyeatr (Member # 7603) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes inline
I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck about immigrants.

If they been here so MF long why haven't they become citizens?
Obviously because they can't. It's not that easy but u wouldn't understand. Don't u think they would of been citizens if they could already ? Your question is retoricle if you ask me.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chevyeatr:
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes inline
I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck aboutimmigrants.

If they been here so MF long why haven't they become citizens?
Obviously because they can't. It's not that easy but u wouldn't understand. Don't u think they would of been citizens if they could already ? Your question is retoricle if you ask me.
I wouldn't understand?? Lol my whole family is from Poland my old lady's whole family is from Zacatecas!!!!! And guess what we are now all citizens and speak English as well as our native tongues!! GTFO with that I wouldn't understand BS!!!
 
Posted by chevyeatr (Member # 7603) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by chevyeatr:
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes inline
I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck aboutimmigrants.

If they been here so MF long why haven't they become citizens?
Obviously because they can't. It's not that easy but u wouldn't understand. Don't u think they would of been citizens if they could already ? Your question is retoricle if you ask me.
I wouldn't understand?? Lol my whole family is from Poland my old lady's whole family is from Zacatecas!!!!! And guess what we are now all citizens and speak English as well as our native tongues!! GTFO with that I wouldn't understand BS!!!
Calm down tough guy. So if u guys all fixed so easy then why is there people that have been here for years still don't have their papers ? I want to know so I can spread the word to all my fellow paisas.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by chevyeatr:
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by chevyeatr:
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
A lot of the students that would stand to benefit from the dream act that went into law have been in this country since they were in dippers and now the dream act will help these students.
I find it comical that some people are bitching about the dream act legislation. The complainers say that they should be in line first, or that these students will steal jobs or send money back home to the mother country.
Why are you fuckin FOX news watching fools worried about these students? Are you people such big fuck ups and failures that you have blame others for your misfortunes inline
I commend Jerry Brown for signing the dream act into law and it makes me feel good that I voted for him. Finally, unless you are an native American Indian, shut the fuck aboutimmigrants.

If they been here so MF long why haven't they become citizens?
Obviously because they can't. It's not that easy but u wouldn't understand. Don't u think they would of been citizens if they could already ? Your question is retoricle if you ask me.
I wouldn't understand?? Lol my whole family is from Poland my old lady's whole family is from Zacatecas!!!!! And guess what we are now all citizens and speak English as well as our native tongues!! GTFO with that I wouldn't understand BS!!!
Calm down tough guy. So if u guys all fixed so easy then why is there people that have been here for years still don't have their papers ? I want
to know so I can spread the word to all my fellow paisas.

It wasn't easy took a Decade all I'm saying is become citizens have that goal I'm glad this is a college issue and not a welfare program just saying people need to stop saying it's too hard to do. And you're right I am a tough guy.
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
and we wounder why we have such a bad illegal situation here in the US. Were the only country giving them right. WTF? We need to start deporting them, not rewarding them.
 
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
and we wounder why we have such a bad illegal situation here in the US. Were the only country giving them right. WTF? We need to start deporting them, not rewarding them.

Amen!
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
and we wounder why we have such a bad illegal situation here in the US. Were the only country giving them right. WTF? We need to start deporting them, not rewarding them.

and now its going to get 10000 times worse especially here in CA while all the other states are trying to deport them we will take all of them into our state to live for free, go to school for free all paid for by your taxes.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
and we wounder why we have such a bad illegal situation here in the US. Were the only country giving them right. WTF? We need to start deporting them, not rewarding them.

and now its going to get 10000 times worse especially here in CA while all the other states are trying to deport them we will take all of them into our state to live for free, go to school for free all paid for by your taxes.
LOL read an article last night saying Obama is stepping in to stop the Alabama law because since it passed illegals are moving out of AL lol all I could think of was what's the problem LOL
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
Man don't even get me started on this lol it wont be a huge number of people but still and CA isn't the only state that does this lol shitty thing is that US citizens from out of state have to pay high ass tuition rates might as well say you are illegal and get free in state aid LOL CA will never wake up this state blindly votes for Democrats like Jerry Brown every election hell that clown already had the job once!! If you came to this country as a kid but now you want to go to college and get a job to supposedly be a productive citizen why don't you get your papers?? It's just sad man I'm not saying voting for a Republican is a great idea either but our damn
government needs to wake up how many people on here are unemployed, can't pay for school or are barely making it check to check while paying high ass taxes, and what is Jerry doing for you????

First of all California is the cheapest state to enroll in school by far and second of all how do you expect to people to get their papers there is a huge waiting list. Alot of people bitch and complain about how the court system is so slow well guess what that's true it's not an easy or short process. One thing I'm hearing you guys say is that citizens are going to be shut out by this but because illegals are going to take their place. Let me ask you this. Did you guys even go to college? Every single class I attended started with a full enrollment and two weeks later only half the class is there and four weeks later in the more rigorous courses 3/4 of the class is gone so I don't want to hear that argument. Sure we have to pay more taxes in the long run since it's so "easy" to get your papers theyll have good jobs and pay more taxes.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackfifty:
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
Man don't even get me started on this lol it wont be a huge number of people but still and CA isn't the only state that does this lol shitty thing is that US citizens from out of state have to pay high ass tuition rates might as well say you are illegal and get free in state aid LOL CA will never wake up this state blindly votes for Democrats like Jerry Brown every election hell that clown already had the job once!! If you came to this country as a kid but now you want to go to college and get a job to supposedly be a productive citizen why don't you get your papers?? It's just sad man I'm not saying voting for a Republican is a great idea either but our damn
government needs to wake up how many people on here are unemployed, can't pay for school or are barely making it check to check while paying high ass taxes, and what is Jerry doing for you????

First of all California is the cheapest state to enroll in school by far and second of all how do you expect to people to get their papers there is a huge waiting list. Alot of people bitch and complain about how the court system is so slow well guess what that's true it's not an easy or short process. One thing I'm hearing you guys say is that citizens are going to be shut out by this but because illegals are going to take their place. Let me ask you this. Did you guys even go to college? Every single class I attended started with a full enrollment and two weeks later only half the class is there and four weeks later in the more rigorous courses 3/4 of the class is gone so I don't want to hear that argument. Sure we have to pay more taxes in the long run since it's so "easy" to get your papers theyll have good jobs and pay more taxes.
Yes I went to college and CA is nowhere near the cheapest state for tuition.
 
Posted by SmallBlock Speeder (Member # 11220) on :
 
It makes me laugh when people say "illegals send their money back to mexico" or where ever theyre from thats not true especially for the ones who live here with their families. Their are tons of natural born americans who shit away the chance to go to school here why take it away from someone who wants to be a functioning member of society?
 
Posted by LOCKDOWN (Member # 4768) on :
 
Haha!! some people in this thread need to STFP!! Really how the heck do you guys think this country is run?? this country wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for Illegals!! [patriot] Yeha we're in a recession but imagine where we would be if we had no one to work all those jobs!! This are some of the reason why other countries think "us" americans are stupid, we belive everything with out checking fact's!! Illigal immigrants do the job's that no one wants to do!! " WHY DO YOU GUYS THINK WE DONT GIVE ILLEGALS AN AMNESTY AND THEN CLOSE OUR BORDER'S?? "BECAUCE WE NEED THEM TO WORK THOSE SLAVE JOB'S THAT NONE OF US WOULD DO"!! Again I say where would we be if everyone got paid at least 10-12 dollar's an hour!!Also another fact for you guys, did you guys know that alot of them pay taxes with a ETIM# that its provided by the "IRS" which they never see a penny of it!! Think about it? If they wanted Illegals gone they would "BE","THEY HAVE THE ADDRESSES TO MOST OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [patriot]

[ October 10, 2011, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: LOCKDOWN ]
 
Posted by LOCKDOWN (Member # 4768) on :
 
The people we should be mad at are those abusing wellfair, those trying to get as much free money from this country as possible, those lazy bums riding out unemployment being abel to work!!

last thing I will say is that I respect any pearson working hard to better them and there family!!! [patriot]
 
Posted by 4_Bangin_Stang (Member # 7432) on :
 
keep up the good work Jerry Brown and Obama
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
Some of you arguing against this bill I can picture you in the early fifties against equal rights for minorities and woman smh. It's sad how people complain about people trying to better themselves if you suggest it's easy to become a citizen then why not let them get a college education that some citizens don't take advantage of getting.
 
Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
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Posted by 510Notch (Member # 9353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cobraracer46:
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This picture says to me....history will repeat, we should kill the illegal aliens before they can take over and kill us with smallpox infected blankets and broken treaties. (jk)
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Can anyone name another country where you can fly,drive,swim,dig or float on a raft to...... Once there:
-Find a place to rent or buy a house.( apply for assistance with rent )
-Recieve a free education.( apply for financial aid )
-Work under the table to avoid needing a visa/work permit.
-If injured recieve emergency care, even if can't pay for it.
-Drive without a DL..... If you are pulled over, you can call
someone with a DL to drive your car for you.
-Have a child born in that country automatically giving you and your child a right to stay.

Oh and all of these great things are gonna be paid for by the TAX paying people of that country.... While you soak up all the greatness & wealth that country has to offer you.
 
Posted by 510Notch (Member # 9353) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
Can anyone name another country where you can fly,drive,swim,dig or float on a raft to...... Once there:
-Find a place to rent or buy a house.( apply for assistance with rent )
-Recieve a free education.( apply for financial aid )
-Work under the table to avoid needing a visa/work permit.
-If injured recieve emergency care, even if can't pay for it.
-Drive without a DL..... If you are pulled over, you can call
someone with a DL to drive your car for you.
-Have a child born in that country automatically giving you and your child a right to stay.

Oh and all of these great things are gonna be paid for by the TAX paying people of that country.... While you soak up all the greatness & wealth that country has to offer you.

....Canada. well, not sure about the getting someone with a DL to retrieve your car part. isn't that up to the LEO on the scene of the incident instead of a entitlement to you? anyways thats small potatoes compared to the birth right part (anchor babies)which Canada does offer

[ October 10, 2011, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: 510Notch ]
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
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This picture says to me....history will repeat, we should kill the illegal aliens before they can take over and kill us with smallpox infected blankets and broken treaties. (jk)
Yea your right and what happened with those original illegal immigrants they took the country over. Like they say history repeats itself by the year 2020 Hispanics are not going to be the minority "anymores" http://m.youtube.com/?rdm=4nyrj9vwd&reload=3#/watch?v=fM4Nsvl-2do
By the way you need paystubs to rent a home and to recieve paystubs you need to have a job where you need proof of citizenship or residency and to have that you can't be "illegal" so there goes your theory.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
^ How do you explain where alot of illegals live now? They aren't living in cardboard boxes here in Ca.
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ How do you explain where alot of illegals live now? They aren't living in cardboard boxes here in Ca.

Actually they live across the street from me on Norwood 1 house 9 vehicles and 27 people!
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Sorry to tell you guys but illegals are here to stay and I don't like it, and Mexicans aren't the only illegals here. They should just make it simple, if they are here illegally then they should get no help from the Government, shouldn't even be a discussion in our Government. The drivers license thing kills me, if they dont have a license then they should suffer the same thing as a legal citizen plus get deported. Also for the people, who don't know me, I am half Mexican, my Dad was an illegal and so was part of my older Family and didn't get any Government help, but they figured out a way to survive and become citizens. We should give the same love as the Mexican Government gives a US citizen in Mexico. Watch what happens if you get in a car accident with a Mexican Citizen and it's their fault, you will miss the USA real fast. But with all the illegal Mexicans here, you would think Mexican Food would be better, I really miss the real stuff, I try to go back home once a year to eat, and a burrito isnt real Mexican food and shouldnt be on any menu in a real Mexican Restaurant.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
It allways cracks me up when the right wing dip shits complain about the "illegals". Unless you are a native American Indian, I would shut the fuck up.

By the way, I see nothing wrong with this legislation as these students that stand to benefit from the dream act will remain in our country and become productive members of our society and that is a good thing.
On a somewhat unrelated note, I think We need more illegal Asian women in this country. [patriot] [burnout]

Where is matt castro?
 
Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ How do you explain where alot of illegals live now? They aren't living in cardboard boxes here in Ca.

No but I'm saying these people are paying taxes just like you and me they need proof of income to rent and w2's
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
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Originally posted by blackfifty:
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ How do you explain where alot of illegals live now? They aren't living in cardboard boxes here in Ca.

No but I'm saying these people are paying taxes just like you and me they need proof of income to rent and w2's
They get a W2, They buy stolen SSN. I know a few people who have had their number being used by another person. So as long as there are illegals living here needing stolen SSN's, idenity theift is going to also be a major problem.
 
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Posted by blackfifty (Member # 9023) on :
 
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
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Originally posted by blackfifty:
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Originally posted by Slowback67:
^ How do you explain where alot of illegals live now? They aren't living in cardboard boxes here in Ca.

No but I'm saying these people are paying taxes just like you and me they need proof of income to rent and w2's
They get a W2, They buy stolen SSN. I know a few people who have had their number being used by another person. So as long as there are illegals living here needing stolen SSN's, idenity theift is going to also be a major problem.
so according to your calculations the problem america has with identity theft is because of illegal aliens, hmmm. Legal citizens here steal all the time I used to work loss prevention and guess what the people who we would catch performing identity theft ranged from all kinds of people black, white, jewish, latino, asian, african, european dont just single a certain group out that ridiculous.
 
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on :
 
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Originally posted by blackfifty:
Some of you arguing against this bill I can picture you in the early fifties against equal rights for minorities and woman smh. It's sad how people complain about people trying to better themselves if you suggest it's easy to become a citizen then why not let them get a college education that some citizens don't take advantage of getting.

I'm all for equal rights! They have a right to become a citizen, get a job, pay their damn taxes, and if they want school then they can pay like everyone else! I couldn't afford college because I didn't live off my parents dime and I've been working since I was sixteen so I've payed plenty of taxes. I graduated 10th in my class with a 3.8 yet wasn't offered no college financial assistance! This is bullsh*t!
 




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