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Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Just curious and if anyone has videos post them this goes for freeway and 1/4 miles my guess is about 400rwhp with some 355s for all around racing just incase u have a hwy pull with em

[ August 30, 2011, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: fam_lace ]
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
They have nasty top end pull and aero dynamic. I bet you need more than that since there is some guy who ran low 10s in a stock one.

Sorry bad info it was 10.7 at like 130

[ August 30, 2011, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
they make around 460-470Rw stock in a car that is not so heavy...so yeah shoot for 500+RW to hang with one
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
they trap around 120-125. so my guess is 450rwhp???
 
Posted by 19mystic96 (Member # 7553) on :
 
You could beat them all day if you have a mostly stock vert with a stall..
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Damn I didn't know than ran 10s stock I thought it was 11.6 but that might have been a different year yea I Change my mind to 500rwhp lol and some good ass all around suspension buy jot sure wat kind would be need since I don't know too much about suspension
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Damn I didn't know than ran 10s stock I thought it was 11.6 but that might have been a different year yea I Change my mind to 500rwhp lol and some good ass all around suspension buy jot sure wat kind would be need since I don't know too much about suspension
they run 11.6 with traction proplems so with some slicks im sure its a 10 sec car
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 19mystic96:
You could beat them all day if you have a mostly stock vert with a stall..
Lmmfao this guy [Cool]
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Guys I'll leave them alone until I get my 100 shot then it will be bye bye z06 lol
 
Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
quote:
Originally posted by 19mystic96:
You could beat them all day if you have a mostly stock vert with a stall..
Lmmfao this guy [Cool]
your forgot that you also need ricer tail lights
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Guys I'll leave them alone until I get my 100 shot then it will be bye bye z06 lol
You should just run one for fun. Win or lose.
 
Posted by hilltim54 (Member # 10655) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 19mystic96:
You could beat them all day if you have a mostly stock vert with a stall..
lol..... yeah and a 200 shot of laughing gas [burnout]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Just curious and if anyone has videos post them this goes for freeway and 1/4 miles my guess is about 400rwhp with some 355s for all around racing just incase u have a hwy pull with em
My mustang had 540RWHP and I had hard time keeping up with 2008 models. Its not about HP its about how that car drives. The Z06 just grabs and goes, and you don't want to miss with it over 100 MPH
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Yea i don't care id racing anything but ima fa damn show b on my shit wit them but like dude said they are some damn bullies over 100mph it would be nice to have a stang set up to punk them at them speeds but what would the set up be a 6speed tranny off top

[ August 30, 2011, 04:41 PM: Message edited by: fam_lace ]
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Just curious and if anyone has videos post them this goes for freeway and 1/4 miles my guess is about 400rwhp with some 355s for all around racing just incase u have a hwy pull with em
My mustang had 540RWHP and I had hard time keeping up with 2008 models. Its not about HP its about how that car drives. The Z06 just grabs and goes, and you don't want to miss with it over 100 MPH
wasnt yours a sn95 vert? i have one too and these cars are heavy as shitlol! prolly why we need 500+ with our body styles but on a fox prolly alot less.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Assuming a typical weight fox, you would need about 450rwhp to be in the ballpark of running with one...

How much beyond that is a question of how much you want to spank a Vette, lol.
 
Posted by Catfish (Member # 9529) on :
 
You would need way more than 450 RWHP, the z06 put's down 450+ rwhp stock,

Not to mention a fox's old ass suspension and what kind of tires will you be putting on to handle 500RWHP?

Have you ever seen a c5+ corvette smash through the gears? The front end has barely any lift they just straight up go.
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
lets just ask what some of the members on here that have 450rwhp do at the track and we'll compare.


so for those who have around 450rwhp, what do you do at the track???
 
Posted by STEED (Member # 4787) on :
 
it will take at least 450rwhp. And when you say "take one", are you talking a true 1/4 race? A "freeway pull?"
The fox will not have the top end of a Z06 at high miles.
Here at my shop we build mustangs and vette's.
i'd say it's 60/40 with vette's in the lead.
These cars simply out perform a mustang in all aspects, but it's supposed to.
2 different classes of car.
Think of what you would have in a 60k foxbody.....and i've had foxes here with that much into them. 1/4mile beast??? yes, top speed car, not so much lol
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
I think there is a guy on here with a c6 z06. Maybe he will give you a run if he comes in this thread.
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
So wats your answer sir
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
a 450RW fox is a 11 second car (or better) in the 1/4...

so strictly a the track race...I'd say 450rW min.

on the street isa different story...525RW +... just to hang to like 100 [Smile]
 
Posted by poisonpony96 (Member # 3942) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Just curious and if anyone has videos post them this goes for freeway and 1/4 miles my guess is about 400rwhp with some 355s for all around racing just incase u have a hwy pull with em
My mustang had 540RWHP and I had hard time keeping up with 2008 models. Its not about HP its about how that car drives. The Z06 just grabs and goes, and you don't want to miss with it over 100 MPH
Oh your cobra now has a .82 5th instead of the stock .64. So now it hauls ass to 150 then out of rpm but gets there fast! Huge difference still have not had the chance to run a z06 yet.
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CornOil_&_Boost:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
a 450RW fox is a 11 second car (or better) in the 1/4...

so strictly a the track race...I'd say 450rW min.

on the street isa different story...525RW +... just to hang to like 100 [Smile]
trap speed is going to determine who wins on the street. i usually see 450rwhp foxes trap around 120-125, which is the same as c6z06.

i mean the z06 is prolly a little heavier than your usual fox and it also puts down round 450rhwp. i dont see why a fox wouldnt be able to keep up with the same rwhp and weight. and im not saying its gonna beat it but it shouldnt be a "no contest" like some pple are saying.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
You need more than 450rwhp to beat one, pull away from it and walk it.

Better have about 500rwhp and a low weight ride with some legs when it comes to a top end race. The aerodynamics and low weight of these things and it is hard to hang with one.

They are a beastly car.
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
I was thinking the same thing Dan but I think under 130 is a good race but the body shape and suspension will make that z06 get in that ass on top end even with a lowered stang it would be problem
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
Guys I'll leave them alone until I get my 100 shot then it will be bye bye z06 lol
YOU WILL NEED MORE THAN A 100SHOT. THE ZO6 VEETES HAVE A LS7 427 CI STOCK. THEY PULL NASTY ON THE TOP END. PLUS THE CAR WIEGHS 3300LBS
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
THE C6 ZO6 WITH CAMONLY N FULL EXHAUST MAKE 530RWHP+.
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
BONE STOCK ZO6 ON DR's 10.8 SEC


http://youtu.be/469NvIOiz7U
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
HERES ANOTHER BONE STOCK C6 ZO6. 10.7 SEC


http://youtu.be/_Zv5RDzwS4g
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
HERE IS A STOCK ZR1. 10.7 SEC PASS


http://youtu.be/nBXnXJa17rE

[ August 30, 2011, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: wichoms4 ]
 
Posted by Rob1 (Member # 9444) on :
 
1000 rwhp would do the trick.
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
With a 100 shot I'm over 5 to the wheels off top at least 530 well when I get tuned

[ August 30, 2011, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: fam_lace ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
With a 100 shot I'm over 5 to the wheels off top at least 530
Not to be a dick but I just built a pump gas 393 stroker that is carbed with better heads and a victor jr intake and it only made 400rwhp, torquey tho
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
YOU SHOULD TRY N RUN THIS CAR. AT THE TRACK OR STREET IT SHOULD BE A NICE MATCH...LOL BTW ITS ONLY A HEADS/CAM LS1 ALL MOTOR..


http://youtu.be/mTSA778AqtA
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
When I get finish I'll post my numbers as far as hp wise I'll be there with 100 shot with my set up i might need to go with a 36lb injector but this post ain't about me racing a z06 when I'm done with my car then I'll post something bout that but imo 475 and good suspension will be a good look for the fox vs a Z06 all around 1/4 mile or even a roll from 50-160
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
I beat a 2007 Z06 with my 90 Coupe at the drags once, it made 474rwhp

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=001524;p=1

To beat a Z06 in a top end race would be hard, they are made to go 180+. I have been 165+ in a stock suspension Foxbody and it's very scary and you would have to be nuts to do it. My 93 Cobra has been 165+ but it has a lot of suspension and 13" brakes. I couldn't see it going 180+ without going to a 6 speed and it made 566rwhp.
 
Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
I'll be at the cruise Sunday in the Z06..I'll run with some of you guys if you want but if u really don't think u have a chance please don't waste both our time..I'm not gonna run every car that pulls up next to me and I'm sure there will be cars that weekend that are gonna pull on me so let the fun begin [burnout]
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
So wats your answer sir
z06 is a killer.. in wieght it is low 3000s so not much of a difference.. and the thing a fox will never be able to match is how the z06 revs.. it makes power all the way up to 7k.. and to the people saying trap speeds.. off the line makes a difference in trap speeds so that doesnt matter.. on the street it will take serious power to hang..
 
Posted by jph331 (Member # 665) on :
 
When I had my 03 Cobra (460RWHP) I raced a bone stock 07 Z06 from about 10-15mph till 120-130mph. 1st and second gear both cars are pretty close. It could go either way depending on driver and who got the jump. Once I hit third the Z06 would walk away like no tomorrow. No catching up. Game over.

When my Cobra was taken out by a semi truck, the first thing I said was " I guess I'll be getting a Z06 now. The Z06 will do 90 in second gear, about 120 in third. The Z06 also gets better traction once you get rid of the stock Goodyear runflats.
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
So wats your answer sir
z06 is a killer.. in wieght it is low 3000s so not much of a difference.. and the thing a fox will never be able to match is how the z06 revs.. it makes power all the way up to 7k.. and to the people saying trap speeds.. off the line makes a difference in trap speeds so that doesnt matter.. on the street it will take serious power to hang..
trap speeds arent really affected by your 60ft. trap speed is always usually consistent no matter how bad your et is.
 
Posted by 5LTR SVT (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 19mystic96:
You could beat them all day if you have a mostly stock vert with a stall..
lmao
 
Posted by 5LTR SVT (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by a302juGRnuat:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
So wats your answer sir
z06 is a killer.. in wieght it is low 3000s so not much of a difference.. and the thing a fox will never be able to match is how the z06 revs.. it makes power all the way up to 7k.. and to the people saying trap speeds.. off the line makes a difference in trap speeds so that doesnt matter.. on the street it will take serious power to hang..
trap speeds arent really affected by your 60ft. trap speed is always usually consistent no matter how bad your et is.
who told u this lie?? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jph331:
When I had my 03 Cobra (460RWHP) I raced a bone stock 07 Z06 from about 10-15mph till 120-130mph. 1st and second gear both cars are pretty close. It could go either way depending on driver and who got the jump. Once I hit third the Z06 would walk away like no tomorrow. No catching up. Game over.

When my Cobra was taken out by a semi truck, the first thing I said was " I guess I'll be getting a Z06 now. The Z06 will do 90 in second gear, about 120 in third. The Z06 also gets better traction once you get rid of the stock Goodyear runflats.
you beat the driver not the car.. no way in hell your 460 rwhp cobra can hang with a real driver.. i would beat your cobra with my 350rwhp mach..because of weight... and your trying to say you hung with a 3700 pound 460 cobra vs a 3200 pound 470 rwhp zo??? come on playa?
 
Posted by a302juGRnuat (Member # 10163) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 5LTR SVT:
quote:
Originally posted by a302juGRnuat:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
quote:
Originally posted by fam_lace:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
the answers in this thread just make me laugh.. 450rwhp to keep up!!hahahahahahhaha... put the crack pipe down!
So wats your answer sir
z06 is a killer.. in wieght it is low 3000s so not much of a difference.. and the thing a fox will never be able to match is how the z06 revs.. it makes power all the way up to 7k.. and to the people saying trap speeds.. off the line makes a difference in trap speeds so that doesnt matter.. on the street it will take serious power to hang..
trap speeds arent really affected by your 60ft. trap speed is always usually consistent no matter how bad your et is.
who told u this lie?? [Roll Eyes]
go back and look at all your timeslips. trap speed is consistant. remember trap speed is the 2nd half of the track, not the first 60ft.

you dont have to believe me, just research it

[ August 31, 2011, 02:49 AM: Message edited by: a302juGRnuat ]
 
Posted by jph331 (Member # 665) on :
 
Never said the cobra beat the z06. I said the first 2 gears was a close race but once I hit third the z06 killed me. Couldn't care less anymore.

I have no doubt in either drivers ability's.
 
Posted by Catfish (Member # 9529) on :
 
Fox will need 500RWHP and one of those porsche wings that flip up at 60+.
 
Posted by 5LTR SVT (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Catfish:
Fox will need 500RWHP and one of those porsche wings that flip up at 60+.
lol
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jph331:

When my Cobra was taken out by a semi truck, the first thing I said was " I guess I'll be getting a Z06 now. The Z06 will do 90 in second gear, about 120 in third. The Z06 also gets better traction once you get rid of the stock Goodyear runflats.
damn..whats the gear ratio like compared to the cobra t56?
 
Posted by Nastysvt (Member # 6431) on :
 
342's compared to cobras 355's..i hit 160 at the top of 4th..I've only had it half way in 5th once before I let out..I was Jus about 180mph

[ August 31, 2011, 06:40 AM: Message edited by: Nastysvt ]
 
Posted by 5LTR SVT (Member # 7080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Nastysvt:
342's compared to cobras 355's..i hit 160 at the top of 4th..I've only had it half way in 5th once before I let out..I was Jus about 180mph
fuk that lol

i been 160+ in my car but its not very fun haha

im sure feels alot safer in that vette

[ August 31, 2011, 06:42 AM: Message edited by: 5LTR SVT ]
 
Posted by jph331 (Member # 665) on :
 
Found this site with gearing info/calculator

http://xse.com/leres/z06/calculator.html

2007 Z06 gearing 2003 Cobra
1st 2.66 2.66
2nd 1.78 1.78
3rd 1.30 1.30
4th 1.00 1.00
5th 0.74 0.80
6th 0.50 0.63

3.42 rear end gears for the z06. Rear tires
325/30/19
The gearing is incorrect when you click on 2007 Z06. Cool calculator either way.
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Some one go on YouTube and find a video of a Z06 vs a fox I'm posting from my phone and can't this post has got interesting I seen a blue 357w hatch run and older one on the highway on YouTube before goodrace
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
I have encountered 2 c6 zo6's and wasted both of them. All from a roll since I have no traction below 3rd. Car makes more than 500rwhp makes peak at 7k and has 3:50 gears with a tko750 so its long legged. Helps car weighs 2880 with me and a full take of gas also. Could have been shitty vette drivers who knows.
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
Sounds like a fun ride was it good race or did u just walk on em
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
I have encountered 2 c6 zo6's and wasted both of them. All from a roll since I have no traction below 3rd. Car makes more than 500rwhp makes peak at 7k and has 3:50 gears with a tko750 so its long legged. Helps car weighs 2880 with me and a full take of gas also. Could have been shitty vette drivers who knows.
Thats about what it will take to beat a stock z06....did you race it up past 140???
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
First one seemed stock and I walked him 3 times. Second one was lowered and had a nasty exhaust we raced 3 or 4 times and he definitely gave me a run. Yes I went to top of 4th which is around 150-160. Car feels slow as balls now though time for some changes
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WsCnpQ5Y0M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRO8mdTDBWE&feature=related


well.......
 
Posted by fam_lace (Member # 8565) on :
 
that's too bad smh
 
Posted by Catfish (Member # 9529) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sneakyfox90:
quote:
Originally posted by jph331:

When my Cobra was taken out by a semi truck, the first thing I said was " I guess I'll be getting a Z06 now. The Z06 will do 90 in second gear, about 120 in third. The Z06 also gets better traction once you get rid of the stock Goodyear runflats.
damn..whats the gear ratio like compared to the cobra t56?
My 3rd takes me to 110, 4th not sure never been out of it. this is with 3.23 gears
 




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