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Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Been on a lsx kick, [Smile] I love fords but im no die hard get it tattooed on my arm kinda mentality. I love and respect anything that is engineered well and makes power. Chevy,mopar all have some Badass lookin cars and ugly ones too. I love the idea of swap cars, high revving high hp in lightweight cars. Thinking.my next comp will be a turbo ls somthing in my 67. Coupe [patriot] or maybe I need to stop pulling coronas outs the fridge.
 
Posted by Venomousnotch (Member # 8695) on :
 
No more corona's for you buddy your already buzzed ...LOL [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
lsx in your car? You crazy? that shit is sick as fuck as it is!
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Talon. Put... the beer... down.
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
You need to stop drinking that piss beer and drink a real beer like Modelo Especial... the Corona's are f'n with your head...LOL
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
i put an lsx and single turbo in my mustang lx but was offered too much money for it before i got it runnin.........

I say do what you want.
 
Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
bring out the whiskey and sell me the termi swap haha lol jk, i have thought about a LS swap in my notch also but just haven't found that extra will to follow through with it haha. but i agree i love anything that has time and dedication to it and makes good power wether its a chevy or a mopar.
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
I think if you build an equal cubic inch sized small block Ford,with heads that flow equal to LSX heads(300+ cfm),you should attain the same results.There are other factors like aluminum block being lighter,rod angle,bore/stroke ratio, etc.But i would think it'd be close.Plus your Mustang buddies wont 86 you,lol.But to each his own.Just my .02 cents.
[patriot]
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
The termi motor is fun especially after I get it tuned Saturday. At AED. But man I know I will get.bored of it and it would be killer to run 400+ci ls motor with a snail and make sick hp on pump
 
Posted by Broke4.6 (Member # 9085) on :
 
do it talon...so i can buy your motor [Smile]

haha love you bud!
 
Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OG_6IcO2HU


^^^no lsx powerplant under this badboy, and you kno the rest the plates say it all [Big Grin] [Wink]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
[Frown] [Roll Eyes] [Frown] [Roll Eyes] [Frown] [Roll Eyes] [Frown] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Brandonn (Member # 632) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
I think if you build an equal cubic inch sized small block Ford,with heads that flow equal to LSX heads(300+ cfm),you should attain the same results.There are other factors like aluminum block being lighter,rod angle,bore/stroke ratio, etc.But i would think it'd be close.Plus your Mustang buddies wont 86 you,lol.But to each his own.Just my .02 cents.
[patriot]

Me and my boys get into this same discussion all the time. once u build a 347-8 inch sbf and put heads that will flow the same numbers a stock or mild ported ls head will the $$$$$ is such a huge differance
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
How many small block fords are putting 400+ rwhp on the street? Not many that arnt blown or radical n/a. How many f-bodys? All of them lol. They are cheap, light, and low profile. With a huge aftermarket for swapping. My neighbor has this tiny little MG from brittian or somthing and would be nasty with a 400+rwhp motor. I dunno. [burnout]
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
Ask our boy nanolx. im sure he has done it with all the cars he has.stolen [burnout]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
It's not hard to make 400rwhp in a 351. Hell I think that mild 351 mustangs plus built years ago was just under the 400 wheel mark with an alphabet cam.
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
Ask our boy nanolx. im sure he has done it with all the cars he has.stolen [burnout]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
How many small block fords are putting 400+ rwhp on the street? Not many that arnt blown or radical n/a. How many f-bodys? All of them lol. They are cheap, light, and low profile. With a huge aftermarket for swapping. My neighbor has this tiny little MG from brittian or somthing and would be nasty with a 400+rwhp motor. I dunno. [burnout]

lol i have 1.. it puts down 430whp on 8.5 to 1 comp and only a 20 over bore.. it dumb easy.. and it don't cost that much.. all you need is a good set of heads.. [patriot] and i can't stand cross breeding cars.. every car company had good cars and great motors. there is no need to cross them up! [patriot]
 
Posted by Bent70 (Member # 9694) on :
 
I'd say do it lsx motors are cheap and have great performance stock. Add l92 heads and cam and your at 500ish hp out of a 6.0.
Everyone is using them from rockcrawlers to street cars
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
How many small block fords are putting 400+ rwhp on the street? Not many that arnt blown or radical n/a. How many f-bodys? All of them lol. They are cheap, light, and low profile. With a huge aftermarket for swapping. My neighbor has this tiny little MG from brittian or somthing and would be nasty with a 400+rwhp motor. I dunno. [burnout]

lol i have 1.. it puts down 430whp on 8.5 to 1 comp and only a 20 over bore.. it dumb easy.. and it don't cost that much.. all you need is a good set of heads.. [patriot] and i can't stand cross breeding cars.. every car company had good cars and great motors. there is no need to cross them up! [patriot]
you sure that its only 8.5 to 1 brother.....you holdin out on us?

It sounded good for an 8 to oner.....
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Not saying its impossible or even hard. I had a nasty N/A 10-1 408w and a 12-1 410w I know what a sbf can do. But I could care less about cross breeding or if people like it. I think it's just as cool to put a diesel in a hot rod. If I knew how to do it from my phone I would link one of my favorite mustang builds. Its on pro-touring.com called the "$5000 mustang" one of the sickest most custom fastbacks I've seen. And with a ls7 [burnout]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
O god this thread is making me sick!! Bowties are for bitches at weddings bud [Big Grin] funny thing is all this same talk was coming out your mouth when u went from windsor's to 32v's lol,all the advantages and simplicity and power potential was all u talked about and finally convinced the die hard pushrod guys what's up..Now u wanna get gay on us and try and throw a lsx in the BAMF 67 of yours huh..disappointed bud [Frown] [Frown] ul have to do your next crossmember at forcefed sorry [Wink]

[ June 13, 2011, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
How many small block fords are putting 400+ rwhp on the street? Not many that arnt blown or radical n/a. How many f-bodys? All of them lol. They are cheap, light, and low profile. With a huge aftermarket for swapping. My neighbor has this tiny little MG from brittian or somthing and would be nasty with a 400+rwhp motor. I dunno. [burnout]

lol i have 1.. it puts down 430whp on 8.5 to 1 comp and only a 20 over bore.. it dumb easy.. and it don't cost that much.. all you need is a good set of heads.. [patriot] and i can't stand cross breeding cars.. every car company had good cars and great motors. there is no need to cross them up! [patriot]
you sure that its only 8.5 to 1 brother.....you holdin out on us?

It sounded good for an 8 to oner.....

no sir.. it is a 8.5 to 1 351w with a 20 over bore.. and a custom blower cam.. i built it for my dr1 to run 25psi on e85.. it's a street car so it's needs to run pump gas.. haven't went over to e85 yet(no need)still running 91.. hell i only run 91 so i can spray the 175hit. some day i'll have anuff to get the blower on.. [Roll Eyes] the motor that blew up before this on made 623chp with 10 to 1 and 400ci, with the same canfield heads & 91pump. [patriot]
 
Posted by 1sick65 (Member # 3957) on :
 
I have a 5.3 that is going to be getting an s400 turbo thrown at it. This will be going into my 65 coupe- I've already received my aje k member and cant wait to get this thing going.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
How many small block fords are putting 400+ rwhp on the street? Not many that arnt blown or radical n/a. How many f-bodys? All of them lol. They are cheap, light, and low profile. With a huge aftermarket for swapping. My neighbor has this tiny little MG from brittian or somthing and would be nasty with a 400+rwhp motor. I dunno. [burnout]

lol i have 1.. it puts down 430whp on 8.5 to 1 comp and only a 20 over bore.. it dumb easy.. and it don't cost that much.. all you need is a good set of heads.. [patriot] and i can't stand cross breeding cars.. every car company had good cars and great motors. there is no need to cross them up! [patriot]
you sure that its only 8.5 to 1 brother.....you holdin out on us?

It sounded good for an 8 to oner.....

no sir.. it is a 8.5 to 1 351w with a 20 over bore.. and a custom blower cam.. i built it for my dr1 to run 25psi on e85.. it's a street car so it's needs to run pump gas.. haven't went over to e85 yet(no need)still running 91.. hell i only run 91 so i can spray the 175hit. some day i'll have anuff to get the blower on.. [Roll Eyes] the motor that blew up before this on made 623chp with 10 to 1 and 400ci, with the same canfield heads & 91pump. [patriot]
SWEET
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
-sic9250 if somebody said here i will trade your 306 for a ls7 if you put it in your notch tell me you wouldn't do it!! and yes im all about the 32v right now they make a ton of hp with small c.i. also very efficient with strong oem parts. but are big and bulky and fuckin $$ to mod.

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Posted by ugotsmoked (Member # 6069) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
-sic9250 if somebody said here i will trade your 306 for a ls7 if you put it in your notch tell me you wouldn't do it!! and yes im all about the 32v right now they make a ton of hp with small c.i. also very efficient with strong oem parts. but are big and bulky and fuckin $$ to mod.

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sooo sick....


Its funny alot of people are compairing built motors to STOCK lsx's. LMAO. No ford N/A factory motor can compare. WAKE UP!!!

I love mustangs and fords, but im not blinded by them.
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Chevy did a great job on those cylinder heads.That and cubic inches are the ONLY reason LSX's are better.So in order to compare you must compare aftermarket heads since ford didnt give us any that flow that well.Neither did Ford give us 340+ inch motors.No one said a stock ford motor is as good as an LSwhatever.Were just sayin a Ford can be built to be just as good as an LSX.And we dont wanna see another Stang guy become an arrogant douchebag LSX owner.The whole problem with LSX owners is that most of em are cocky assholes and act like theyre shit dont stink.They make snyde little remarks,and suddenly think they are demi-gods because they drive LSX's.It is fucking annoying and is the reason i will never give up and own one of those boat anchors.
[patriot]
And anyway,Fords new line of engines are rewriting the hierarchy of American v8's.
Now GM is gonna play the forced induction and catch up game.

[ June 13, 2011, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]
 
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on :
 
why not throw a coyote in that b@tch? it will take a heads cam ls1 to compete with that.. but im all for a lsx stang too..sorry guys
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
I like everything about that baby blue fastback ! But under the hood sorry I would put that in a f body not a ford
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
I'm not one for crossbreeds... of any kind.

BTW, the new 6.2L in the Raptor is 380 cubic inches and makes great power for only a 2 valve engine. It makes more torque than the 6.2L LS3 and is right there on power... with almost a full point less compression.
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ugotsmoked:
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
-sic9250 if somebody said here i will trade your 306 for a ls7 if you put it in your notch tell me you wouldn't do it!! and yes im all about the 32v right now they make a ton of hp with small c.i. also very efficient with strong oem parts. but are big and bulky and fuckin $$ to mod.

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[Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]


sooo sick....


Its funny alot of people are compairing built motors to STOCK lsx's. LMAO. No ford N/A factory motor can compare. WAKE UP!!!

I love mustangs and fords, but im not blinded by them.

[Roll Eyes]
Ummmmm....one word......COYOTE.
 
Posted by Zeke (Member # 9432) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
why not throw a coyote in that b@tch? it will take a heads cam ls1 to compete with that.. but im all for a lsx stang too..sorry guys

+1, I'd be happy with either one. However, if I were to be throwing an LSX into something, it would be a forged LSX on boost.

Question for you guys, I know it's a truck motor but has anyone taken the a motor out of the new Raptor and thrown it into an old school?
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Price also is a factor. A new coyote is sick and would be top pick if money was not a factor. But they ate still not built for big hp.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
Price also is a factor. A new coyote is sick and would be top pick if money was not a factor. But they ate still not built for big hp.

I'm pretty sure that Evolution Motorsports crossed over the 700 RWHP with their boosted Coyote.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zeke:
quote:
Originally posted by Mach916:
why not throw a coyote in that b@tch? it will take a heads cam ls1 to compete with that.. but im all for a lsx stang too..sorry guys

+1, I'd be happy with either one. However, if I were to be throwing an LSX into something, it would be a forged LSX on boost.

Question for you guys, I know it's a truck motor but has anyone taken the a motor out of the new Raptor and thrown it into an old school?

I think you missed my post about 3 above yours.

One issue with the 6.2L in the Raptor is that it runs a large bore. The bore spacing (and length) of the block is much larger than a mod motor. The biggest problem is that no one makes PCM/installation kit for it yet.
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
-sic9250 if somebody said here i will trade your 306 for a ls7 if you put it in your notch tell me you wouldn't do it!! and yes im all about the 32v right now they make a ton of hp with small c.i. also very efficient with strong oem parts. but are big and bulky and fuckin $$ to mod.

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More pictures and specs. I want it so bad!!
 
Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 
They ruined a perfectly good fastback, cross breeding is gay!
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
Price also is a factor. A new coyote is sick and would be top pick if money was not a factor. But they ate still not built for big hp.

Dont know about that.Why not?Theres already big numbers turning up out there.

[ June 14, 2011, 01:10 AM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Not my thing but here ya go.
http://forums.corral.net/forums/mustangs-sale-wanted-1987-1993/1308348-1993-ls1-notchback.html
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
Talon, just remember this before u decide to crossover, LSX motors are garbage boat anchors & anyone who owns any LSX powered vehicle is a douchebag!!! [Wink]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
306 to LS7 [Confused] ...common bud,apples and orange's right there, now if we got on a more "real world" level and instead the question is, trade for a 5.3 for the 306?? That is more pratical but i would still am gonna stick with the 306 bud [dance] I bleed blue [Wink] "it is what it is" hahaha [worship] [worship] [worship] LSX's are fuckn nasty yes but remember your roots brotha [burnout]
 
Posted by gtowned (Member # 8156) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Talon, just remember this before u decide to crossover, LSX motors are garbage boat anchors & anyone who owns any LSX powered vehicle is a douchebag!!! [Wink]

wheres the like button
 
Posted by ugotsmoked (Member # 6069) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 50DADDY:
[QB] Chevy did a great job on those cylinder heads.That and cubic inches are the ONLY reason LSX's are better.So in order to compare you must compare aftermarket heads since ford didnt give us any that flow that well.Neither did Ford give us 340+ inch motors.[endqt]

Well there ya go, right out of you mouth. You can't compare a stock ford motor to a lsx. Supercharged fords barely hang. It's just the way it is. I'm not a cocky lsx guy at all, I'm just sayin facts. What do you think would happen if you stroked an lsx and slapped a set of heads on it? I woke up after building my white car. I'm too old and have too many other things going on in life than throwing money down the toilet trying to make a new edge fast. The day it was totaled was one of the best days of my life.
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
The coyote is stout but pistons and rods arnt the greatest. Now the boss 302 motor address all that but that's a nice check to write. Then if you want to add custom bumpsticks get the checkbook out again.

Putting the 6.2 raptor motor would be cool but its way to big. The lsx is a very small package easly set way back in the car for good weight distribution. Plus it benifits from new designs. O-ring gaskets aluminum components ect.
 
Posted by ugotsmoked (Member # 6069) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
The coyote is stout but pistons and rods arnt the greatest. Now the boss 302 motor address all that but that's a nice check to write. Then if you want to add custom bumpsticks get the checkbook out again.

Putting the 6.2 raptor motor would be cool but its way to big. The lsx is a very small package easly set way back in the car for good weight distribution. Plus it benifits from new designs. O-ring gaskets aluminum components ect.

Spoken like a true car enthusiast.
 
Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 
IMHO, there's nothing wrong with a cross-bred foxbody because those cars are track-whores... But I feel like a lsx in anything other than a fox is stupid.. I would never, ever put one in a old school... Especially one that already has a 32v in it..
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
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Where'd the shock towers go?
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Its a full frame car with c4 vette suspension..... all hand dabbed in his garage. Pro-touring.com "$5000 mustang" its a 90 page build thread but worth the time to read your jaw will hit the floor. I wouldn't mind a nre twin turbo motor 427lsx 1200hp on pump 1800 on. Good gas
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SAMACH1:
IMHO, there's nothing wrong with a cross-bred foxbody because those cars are track-whores... But I feel like a lsx in anything other than a fox is stupid.. I would never, ever put one in a old school... Especially one that already has a 32v in it..

it's this simple. if you can't make your chevy boat anchor fast, just buy a mustang and drop your brand x-motor in it. [patriot] correct me if i'm wrong isn't a lsx a 7.0? and if it is compareing a 5.0 with crap heads to a 7.0 with good heads not very fair at all. why not compare a 351 with a set of good heads? but what do i know. i have a dumb simple 351w with 2.5 points of comp lower and still make more power.. [Razz]
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Your focussing on ford vs chevy to much bud. I love fords and have no doubt they can make hp and last. This isn't just about drag racing and stripped down fox bodys with autos.... doesn't take rocket science to make that fast in the 1320. Warhorse I know you got a nice chunk of change in your "simple" combo. Dart block canfield heads ect 8k or higher if you bought all new. You could easly spend they same cash on any brand x and go just as fast if not faster in the same car.
400+rwhp are the norm for any ls motor with simple mode. For a streetable easy going drive across the country motor. Im a all around kinda of person. I want to get in fire it up drive anywhere do anything and make power and even get good mpg. Fact is how many mustangs on this board make the same power for the same $? Shit I think ls motors make so much power because they copied ford with the equal spacing port heads. Newer technolgy means more hp and longevity.
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 65mustang408:
Your focussing on ford vs chevy to much bud. I love fords and have no doubt they can make hp and last. This isn't just about drag racing and stripped down fox bodys with autos.... doesn't take rocket science to make that fast in the 1320. Warhorse I know you got a nice chunk of change in your "simple" combo. Dart block canfield heads ect 8k or higher if you bought all new. You could easly spend they same cash on any brand x and go just as fast if not faster in the same car.
400+rwhp are the norm for any ls motor with simple mode. For a streetable easy going drive across the country motor. Im a all around kinda of person. I want to get in fire it up drive anywhere do anything and make power and even get good mpg. Fact is how many mustangs on this board make the same power for the same $? Shit I think ls motors make so much power because they copied ford with the equal spacing port heads. Newer technolgy means more hp and longevity.

true i have a lot more than 8k in my motor.. but that doesn't take from the fact that it is a 351w with a 20 over bore. 8.5 to 1 comp.. i can take my heads(old ass 205cc canfields) and intake drop them on any 351w and make close to the same power.. you don't need a billet sonny bryant crank or custom je piston good for 1400hp to make the power i am. i can get stock 351w bottom end and make close to the same power. honestly i'd make more. since it would bump up my comp. my motor will drive anywhere i want it to on 87 pump gas. now it won't get as good of gas milage. but it's a carbed car.. if i wanted i'm sure i could get a lot more out of it if i went to efi.. but i don't care.. the reason lsx make more power from the factory is simple.. they have more cubes and way bigger heads.. [patriot] and with the extras it takes to put a lsx in a ford you could easily get a set of heads and intake and make the same power as the lsx. [patriot] i'm not saying the lsx isn't a good motor or doesn't make power.. or for that matter isn't a good swap for a older chevy car.. and if your set on it.. then go for it.. in the end it's your car, so do what you want to it.. it will just be a sad day for your ford if you do..
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by *EPIK*:
Talon, just remember this before u decide to crossover, LSX motors are garbage boat anchors & anyone who owns any LSX powered vehicle is a douchebag!!! [Wink]

You know exactly what im talkin about man.You cant honestly tell me that alot of LSX owners arent arrogant,cocky douchebags.You used to hate them.Youve listened to em run theyre mouths and look down on you because you had a modular car.Some LSX guys think theyre untouchable.
C'mon man!This isnt a personal attack on my friends who own LSX cars(you,Chad,Scott).Its the assholes ive met over the years.You know im right,you even know some of the asswipes im talkin about.And yes,from my mouth you heard LSX motors are better performers in STOCK form than the old modulars and Fords pushrod motors,everyone knows that.Its an unfortunate fact.Still dont want one though.To each his own i guess.

[ June 14, 2011, 03:11 PM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Thanks Epik you left me nothing to add!!! well said...lol
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
Chevy did a great job on those cylinder heads.That and cubic inches are the ONLY reason LSX's are better.So in order to compare you must compare aftermarket heads since ford didnt give us any that flow that well.

351-4v closed chamber heads bone stock will out flow most aftermarket aluminum heads. Like 300cfm at .600 on the intake and 180cfm on the exhaust at .600. Unfortunately Ford only made the Boss 351 one year which later became the 351HO for another year, but that engine was underrated at 330hp. The Boss 302 which had essentially the same heads made way more than the advertised 290hp. Here's some cool articles on how much power these engines with stock Cleveland heads really made.

Boss 351 vs LT1

Boss 302 vs z28

[ June 14, 2011, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: wilit ]
 
Posted by 1sick65 (Member # 3957) on :
 
im shooting for 650-700 hp from my stock longblock cam only turbo'd 5.3 on pump gas... let the nay saying commence [Big Grin]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
im shooting for 650-700 hp from my stock longblock cam only turbo'd 5.3 on pump gas... let the nay saying commence [Big Grin]

that is it? lol i'm going for a 5.8 and 900-1000hp on pump gas.. but i got a ford.. [patriot]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
I'm one of the few open minded people on the board who have actually owned both. I've had a ton of pushrod Fords. I've had modular powered Fords. I've had multiple LS powered vehicles, one of them over 500hp with just bolt ons.

The fact is that both families have great engines capable of big power. Because of that, I don't see the point in spending the extra coin on the parts required to stick a brand X engine in a brand Y vehicle. I don't think a Chevy belongs in a Ford and I don't like seeing a Ford in a Chevy.

The reality is that a lot of people feel the same way and wouldn't share your enthusiasm for creating a crossbreed. In fact, you will devalue your car by doing so. You're creating a smaller market of potential buyers when you ultimately decide to sell the car.
 
Posted by Smoked50 (Member # 9592) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
im shooting for 650-700 hp from my stock longblock cam only turbo'd 5.3 on pump gas... let the nay saying commence [Big Grin]

that is it? lol i'm going for a 5.8 and 900-1000hp on pump gas.. but i got a ford.. [patriot]
WINNING! lol
 
Posted by *EPIK* (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
Thanks Epik you left me nothing to add!!! well said...lol

I typed that just for u my friend [Cool]
 
Posted by 1sick65 (Member # 3957) on :
 
hey warhorse is your high and mighty 5.8 gonna be a stock longblock. is it gonna be readily available for $500 or so dollars. instead of just seeing numbers and writing some bullshit, take the time to read the entire thing and make an apple to apple comparison. which in this case you didnt-
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
im shooting for 650-700 hp from my stock longblock cam only turbo'd 5.3 on pump gas... let the nay saying commence [Big Grin]

that is it? lol i'm going for a 5.8 and 900-1000hp on pump gas.. but i got a ford.. [patriot]
That's Funny [burnout]
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
hey warhorse is your high and mighty 5.8 gonna be a stock longblock. is it gonna be readily available for $500 or so dollars. instead of just seeing numbers and writing some bullshit, take the time to read the entire thing and make an apple to apple comparison. which in this case you didnt-

Kinda like chevy guys comp a catfish to a foxbody.
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Dave I some what agree I wouldn't spend a ton of coin to make a simple ls1 swap but if I came across somthing exotic I would swap it in. Coyote,ls7-9,ferrari lol

And yeah new factory motors are stout compared to old 302 and 351's plus the blocks and poor cyclinder head bolt placement.
 
Posted by THE REAL DGAF (Member # 7277) on :
 
talon your car your money an you can do what ever you want with some will love most will hate b/c there closed minded
 
Posted by THE REAL DGAF (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by THE REAL DGAF:
talon your car your money an you can do what ever you wantit with. some will love it most will hate b/c there closed minded


 
Posted by 1RaW93SvT (Member # 9151) on :
 
[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

just
a
bunch
of
bullshit
comin
out
talons
ass..

he is driving around a untuned 32 valve that cant go past 4000 rpms and he wants more power...lol wow

[patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Has nothing to do with my current motor. I love the modular motor I don't care about going fast right now as im still breaking in the motor, clutch and car. Big talk. Bud from somebody who has only had an iron headed e cam 306 [Eek!] you would shit your pants with 400rwhp fox. [patriot]
 
Posted by 1RaW93SvT (Member # 9151) on :
 
ya there will be no shittin here girl.. also it does not matter what set up i have had.. im steppin up my game with my 93 cobra build.. [Big Grin]

just think its funny your even thinking of the catfish modd.. are you smoking coronas or drinkin them..
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
Good im glad you finally make some hp. Maybe some more shit talking will actually motivate you to get your ass out there and work on your car. Instead of twiddling around with chin spoilers and fancy over flow bottles you should actually put a motor together. [Razz]
 
Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
damm talon now you got me checking out some lsx blocks for my notchback lol, i still love my fords no matter what but it has me wanting to build a frankenstein first lol, lots of raw power with that lsx block, not saying that ford isnt capable but for the best bang for the buck the LS powered fox is in the lead haha so i feel ya on wanting something different. [patriot]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ISP89LX:
damm talon now you got me checking out some lsx blocks for my notchback lol, i still love my fords no matter what but it has me wanting to build a frankenstein first lol, lots of raw power with that lsx block, not saying that ford isnt capable but for the best bang for the buck the LS powered fox is in the lead haha so i feel ya on wanting something different. [patriot]

No mames Ozzy puras fallas con tigo [Frown]
 
Posted by 1RaW93SvT (Member # 9151) on :
 
lil butt hurt you cant have that over flow that just layin around my clean ass garage.. dont worrie about what im doing to my daily cause obviously someone bite my style.. trust me if it aint fast it sure will be clean as fuck..
 
Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
quote:
Originally posted by ISP89LX:
damm talon now you got me checking out some lsx blocks for my notchback lol, i still love my fords no matter what but it has me wanting to build a frankenstein first lol, lots of raw power with that lsx block, not saying that ford isnt capable but for the best bang for the buck the LS powered fox is in the lead haha so i feel ya on wanting something different. [patriot]

No mames Ozzy puras fallas con tigo [Frown]
hahah puro cottoreo compa, ay tengo algo guardadito...que si te va a gustar cuando lo termine. [Wink]
 
Posted by Cobra 93-4992 (Member # 4992) on :
 
Keep GM engines in GM products, this is a decent LS2 swap here.

http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=83305

LSX in any mustang platform is like a bankok ladyboy.
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
hey warhorse is your high and mighty 5.8 gonna be a stock longblock. is it gonna be readily available for $500 or so dollars. instead of just seeing numbers and writing some bullshit, take the time to read the entire thing and make an apple to apple comparison. which in this case you didnt-

so what your telling me is, that comparing my build(because i have a dart block) isn't apples to apples. but comparing a 7.0 lsx all alumiun motor to a 5.0 iron headed motor is? gtfo with that shit. [patriot] and if you want you can get a 351c for less than $500 with 2v heads add a turbo and still make 700-800hp. with a motor they stopped making in 76.. not to mention getting a 351c with 4v heads. but you ls guys never want to compare apples to apples.. that is why you don't even compare your motors to 351's you compare them to 302's.. [worship]

ps.. my dart block doesn't make more power than a stock block.. but it will handle more! [Wink]
 
Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :
 
When I say lsx im reffering to all ls motors not just the ls7. Ls motors are a huge bang for your buck and easly attainable. Unlike a one year motor so I don't so how that's a comparison. Not to mention you get fuel injection when swapping to a ls and cop ignition and a crank trigger style setup. Cam swaps are easier and manifold swaps aswell. If 351w swaps are so easy then let's get a count of 400rwhp 351w swapped daily driver mustangs are on here.... got my money on not to many.

Ps Also warhorse its been proven many times that a dart block can add as much as a 100hp on big hp. Cars from the strength of the block not twisting or distorting causing excessive friction.
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
quote:
Originally posted by 1sick65:
hey warhorse is your high and mighty 5.8 gonna be a stock longblock. is it gonna be readily available for $500 or so dollars. instead of just seeing numbers and writing some bullshit, take the time to read the entire thing and make an apple to apple comparison. which in this case you didnt-

so what your telling me is, that comparing my build(because i have a dart block) isn't apples to apples. but comparing a 7.0 lsx all alumiun motor to a 5.0 iron headed motor is? gtfo with that shit. [patriot] and if you want you can get a 351c for less than $500 with 2v heads add a turbo
and still make 700-800hp. with a motor they stopped making
in 76.. not to mention getting a 351c with 4v heads. but you ls
guys never want to compare apples to apples.. that is why
you don't even compare your motors to 351's you compare
them to 302's.. [worship]

ps.. my dart block doesn't make more power than a stock block.. but it will handle more! [Wink]

I couldn't have said it better.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Do a ls7 rx7 swap!!!
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
I thought on doing LS2 swap into my 88 Coupe, very cheap way to run high 9s, with no power adder and 2900-3000lb race weight. Sad thing is the block only good to 800hp and I needed around 1000hp to meet my 8 second goal, and time I spent the extra money to build the LSX 1000+ hp, it cost the same as me building a 4 bolt main Ford block. I even looked into an electric motor for my race car, so I can drive it on the street but the cost was crazy. Nice thing about the LS2 is you can find them anywhere for cheap and not take much to get 500-600hp and still stay together.
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
Define "cheap".
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Cheap, depends on your resources, but I would buy a parts car like this one, sell what you don't need and rest is up to you.

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=090108
 
Posted by ISP89LX (Member # 8949) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Cheap, depends on your resources, but I would buy a parts car like this one, sell what you don't need and rest is up to you.

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=090108

seems like a solid deal.
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Slowback67:
It's not hard to make 400rwhp in a 351. Hell I think that mild 351 mustangs plus built years ago was just under the 400 wheel mark with an alphabet cam.

Try making 400+rwhp N/A on a stock ford bottomend.. nope cant do it.. LSX Performance FTW!!!
 
Posted by wichoms4 (Member # 10900) on :
 
LS motors make 400+rwhp with just a cam..
 




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