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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
This is probably gonna shock a lot of people, but I might be thinking about finally letting go of my 2003 Mach 1. I love this car, but I'm tired of having 2 weekend toys, & I need to get into something I will drive more often... Anyhow, here goes...


2003 Mach 1, 5 speed, Torch Red. 56,9XX miles. Entire top end rebuilt by Drew @ AED less than 1,000 miles ago.

=Performance mods=

-Maximum Motorsports K member, A arms, Bumpsteer kit, 325lb front coil overs, 225lb rear coil overs, caster/camber plates, full length subframe connectors, panhard bar, & XD lower control arms
-Bilstein HD Struts/shocks.
-Energy suspension polyurethane motor & transmission mounts.
-Centerforce dual friction clutch.
-03-04 Cobra aluminum flywheel.
-Maximum Motorsports clutch quadrant & firewall adjuster.
-MGW shifter.
-FRPP 4.10 gears.
-SSBC slotted brake rotors.
-C&L 85mm maf & intake tube.
-Roy's 3/8" intake spacer.
-LCD head cooling mod.
-Mac LT headers & o/r h pipe.
-Custom Bassani catback with SLP tips.
-Xcal2 Tuned by Shaun @ AED 309rwhp/323rwtq. also includes 2 race tunes that I have yet to try out.


=Cosmetic mods=

-03-04 Cobra spoiler & mirrors.
-8000k HID's.
-15% tint all around
-Billet shorty antenna
-"Powered by Ford" coil covers.
-A lot of misc. interior billet items.
-18X9 & 18X10 deep dish silver FR500 replicas.
-BF Goodrich KDW2's 265/35/18 & 295/35/18 (plenty of life left).

Anyhow, I think thats about it. The car drives & looks like new, & has the best suspension money can buy. Both the paint, interior, & engine bay are super clean. Although I raced the car a little bit, this car is babied & is a garage queen 99% of the time. Oil changed less than every 3k miles since I rarely drive it... Its very hard to part with this car, but I am looking into getting a nice performance sedan... The car blue books @ $14,140 in this condition & mileage, but with all the mods the car has I am pricing it @ $16,000. LMK if anybody is interested.


BTW, this is a feeler, so I might end up changing my mind, but I think at this point, I am leaning towards letting her go.

Thanks,

-Dustin


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[ August 11, 2010, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! [Wink]
 
Posted by flores50 (Member # 9122) on :
 
dp

[ August 10, 2010, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: flores50 ]
 
Posted by flores50 (Member # 9122) on :
 
[Eek!] [Eek!] WHAT!! dont do it..... man if only i had the $$ i would hop on dis.. glws
 
Posted by alexdel209 (Member # 9239) on :
 
wow this is a shock.but hey you know what your doing.Glws on this clean car
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
svtperformance and corral!
best of luck!
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
Thanks for the encouraging words guys. Like I said this is just a feeler to see if there is any actual interest. I will most likely change my mind anyhow because it is hard to part with this car after 4 years of ownership...
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
Dustin you're trippin! Dump the notch and keep the Mach!!!! If I had the cash I'd be all over this for sure!
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
wow..thats a shocker. what u have in mind for a replacement? does it start with a T and end with a R? [Wink]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
wow..thats a shocker. what u have in mind for a replacement? does it start with a T and end with a R? [Wink]

You'd be surprised, lol
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

[ August 11, 2010, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

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Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Is that the Tata Nano R?

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Cause no matter what your going to be pissed that you sold off your baby. And every other car is going to feel like a Tata Nano R
 
Posted by alexdel209 (Member # 9239) on :
 
i feel you epik i almost sold my car a few weeks ago but i cant part with it not yet.and i only owe the bank 4k.but i have done alot of work on the car when i got it it was 100 stock
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

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lol now thats what i call representing on the farm.

dustin,
those are all good practical replacements for a daily driver but would they fill the void of that mach which uve put a lot of blood, sweat and hard earned cash into? what usually helps me calm the urge to sell is driving the car after that though and then i quickly realize i like the car but for ur situation being that u have another stang i can easily see how ud be willing to let go one or the other in favor of something more practical. i guess in a perfect world ud have the 2 stangs and the cts-v.
 
Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
wow..thats a shocker. what u have in mind for a replacement? does it start with a T and end with a R? [Wink]

Nope hes definitely not getting a "TerminatoR"
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Mach What?

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Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

[ August 11, 2010, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

[ August 11, 2010, 12:48 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Can someone please move this over to general talk, there's no way in hell your selling the Mach. LOL
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

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lol now thats what i call representing on the farm.

dustin,
those are all good practical replacements for a daily driver but would they fill the void of that mach which uve put a lot of blood, sweat and hard earned cash into? what usually helps me calm the urge to sell is driving the car after that though and then i quickly realize i like the car but for ur situation being that u have another stang i can easily see how ud be willing to let go one or the other in favor of something more practical. i guess in a perfect world ud have the 2 stangs and the cts-v.

Well, I would miss the Mach, thats for sure, but at this point I need something that I want to hop in & drive & be comfy in. The Mach drives great, gets decent mileage, & is super reliable, but since it has full suspension, its not the most comfy car to drive on long trips...
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Having two toys and no car that you can jump in and comfortably drive anywhere/anytime is all bad!

I say sell the Mach1, get the M5, put down 550rwhp in the fox, and give streakmatt a run for his money!

[worship] lol
 
Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
I think some people are missing the point of what Epik is trying to do here. Hes looking for something more practical for where he is in his life right now. If he wanted to take his lady to say S.F for the day, he doesn't want to hop in his stiff riding Mach all the way down there. He needs something comfy and smooth that he can cruise in. A nice practical everyday driver. Plus hes not looking to "Mod" this next car either. Thats what his Fox is for. As much as I want him to keep it as well, I totally understand where hes coming from and I would probably do the same thing if I were in his situation.
 
Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 
Not before our photoshoot youre not.........MOVE TO GENERAL TALK, WE AINT LETTING EPIK SELL SHIT LOL!
 
Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Having two toys and no car that you can jump in and comfortably drive anywhere/anytime is all bad!

I say sell the Mach1, get the M5, put down 550rwhp in the fox, and give streakmatt a run for his money!

[worship] lol

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

Although you know I love your car I totally feel you and can relate to this statement sometimes I climb into the Cobra and think man do younger guys think I'm trying to be the old fat bald paul walker! And on a long trip the comfort is key.
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

It sounds like you've been thinking pretty seriously about selling the Mach for a long time... long enough to lose hair and gain some gray over it. [Razz]

I wouldn't touch an S4 with someone elses 10 foot pole. The M5 is definitely a lustworthy uber sedan but tough to mod and hard on the wallet when they get a few miles on them. The CTS-V's do have their weak points as well but they're cheap to maintain, inexpensive to fix, and easy to mod. A Gen 1 CTS-V and a GXP are very close in almost every aspect of their performance. It doesn't hurt that the V is a good 200 pounds lighter.

The fact that you've already done so much research on a replacement tells me that you've got one foot out the door already. Cars are a lot like women. If you're thinking about leaving, then you're as good as gone already. The only catch with a car is that you have to find both a suitable replacement and a suitor for your current relationship.

I don't think you'll have a tough time selling the Mach if you get serious about selling it. You might even get pretty close to your asking price.
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Having two toys and no car that you can jump in and comfortably drive anywhere/anytime is all bad!

I say sell the Mach1, get the M5, put down 550rwhp in the fox, and give streakmatt a run for his money!

[worship] lol

Luke, I would take the M5 right now, but the Mach needs to sell 1st... I doubt I will be anywhere near StreakMatt territory, but the Fox will be fast soon...
[Wink]

[ August 11, 2010, 01:08 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by streakmatt:
I think some people are missing the point of what Epik is trying to do here. Hes looking for something more practical for where he is in his life right now. If he wanted to take his lady to say S.F for the day, he doesn't want to hop in his stiff riding Mach all the way down there. He needs something comfy and smooth that he can cruise in. A nice practical everyday driver. Plus hes not looking to "Mod" this next car either. Thats what his Fox is for. As much as I want him to keep it as well, I totally understand where hes coming from and I would probably do the same thing if I were in his situation.

I see mods in his future, regardless of what he chooses... not to the extent of the Mach but I'm sure that even something as good out of the box as an M5 would be wearing "the basics".
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by streakmatt:
I think some people are missing the point of what Epik is trying to do here. Hes looking for something more practical for where he is in his life right now. If he wanted to take his lady to say S.F for the day, he doesn't want to hop in his stiff riding Mach all the way down there. He needs something comfy and smooth that he can cruise in. A nice practical everyday driver. Plus hes not looking to "Mod" this next car either. Thats what his Fox is for. As much as I want him to keep it as well, I totally understand where hes coming from and I would probably do the same thing if I were in his situation.

This dude speaks the truth. I am looking for something more comfy to drive on a daily basis, but since I am replacing a performance car, it has to be something that won't put me to sleep, or feel like a downgrade. The Mach is not a daily right now, but I am tired of having 3 cars, driving a beater during the week while I have 2 nice cars sitting in the garage. It might just be time for me to move on....


[burnout]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SAMACH1:
Not before our photoshoot youre not.........MOVE TO GENERAL TALK, WE AINT LETTING EPIK SELL SHIT LOL!

[Big Grin]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fstryde3:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

Although you know I love your car I totally feel you and can relate to this statement sometimes I climb into the Cobra and think man do younger guys think I'm trying to be the old fat bald paul walker! And on a long trip the comfort is key.
Thanks bro. Comfort with respectable performance is my main focus right now...
[patriot]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EPIK:
[qb] LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

Cars are a lot like women. If you're thinking about leaving, then you're as good as gone already.
Mods, please shut down the site for a couple minutes while we all take a moment of silence to embrace the most profound wisdom that has ever graced the pages of cafords.com

Dustin, the man knows what he is talking about. Sell the damn car, get something comfy, and lets see the fox go wheels up, lol!

Anytime I have ever thought about selling a car, it was HISTORY within the next few months. [patriot]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

It sounds like you've been thinking pretty seriously about selling the Mach for a long time... long enough to lose hair and gain some gray over it. [Razz]

I wouldn't touch an S4 with someone elses 10 foot pole. The M5 is definitely a lustworthy uber sedan but tough to mod and hard on the wallet when they get a few miles on them. The CTS-V's do have their weak points as well but they're cheap to maintain, inexpensive to fix, and easy to mod. A Gen 1 CTS-V and a GXP are very close in almost every aspect of their performance. It doesn't hurt that the V is a good 200 pounds lighter.

The fact that you've already done so much research on a replacement tells me that you've got one foot out the door already. Cars are a lot like women. If you're thinking about leaving, then you're as good as gone already. The only catch with a car is that you have to find both a suitable replacement and a suitor for your current relationship.

I don't think you'll have a tough time selling the Mach if you get serious about selling it. You might even get pretty close to your asking price.

You are correct dave, I have been thinking about this since last Thanksgiving. Its not that I don't love the mach anymore, its just that I need something different at this point...


I agree with what your saying, but if I do any mods to these cars I will leave it at the basics. Nothing more than catback exhaust, intake, mild lowering, & nicer wheels eventually. The CTS-V is much easier to mod, but major modding is what I am trying to avoid, & a nice comfy cruiser that sounds good, looks good, & is semi fast is what I would be looking for...

[ August 11, 2010, 01:18 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by bigjerry (Member # 6033) on :
 
[Confused] [Confused]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by EPIK:
[qb] LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

Cars are a lot like women. If you're thinking about leaving, then you're as good as gone already.
Mods, please shut down the site for a couple minutes while we all take a moment of silence to embrace the most profound wisdom that has ever graced the pages of cafords.com

Dustin, the man knows what he is talking about. Sell the damn car, get something comfy, and lets see the fox go wheels up, lol!

Anytime I have ever thought about selling a car, it was HISTORY within the next few months. [patriot]

LMAO. Us old guys know a thing or two.

[ August 11, 2010, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
LOL guys. I just went out to the garage & now I'm already having 2nd thoughts.

Ian, I hear what your saying, but I own the Notch outright, & I am still making payments on the Mach... Sometimes I feel it would be wiser if I actually daily drove the car I'm making payments on, & used the car I own, & that is CHEAP to mod & fix to beat on...

Alex, IF I do replace it, I will be replacing it with an E39 M5, Cadillac CTS-V, or Audi S4...

Hmmm... just curious, what sedan starts with a T, & ends with an R?

Seriously?

I understand selling the Mach but don't age yourself before your time. Sedans are for old dudes with gray hairs and rugrats to cart around. LOL.

The M5 is sick but beware of the maintenance costs. Don't buy an S4... unless you like break downs and cars that are tough to mod. I say CTS-V.

I guess a G8 GXP wasn't cool enough to make the list. [burnout]

LOL. Well, I am getting old, & what hair I do have left is turning slightly gray... I am aware of the maintenance cost of the M5, & thats what scares me away, bat MAN those cars are sexy as hell to me!!!! I have done my research on the E39 M5's, & they seem to be reliable, but parts cost a ton...

The CTS-V is the best bang for the buck, & alot cheaper to maintain, but not as nice as the M5 IMO. The S4 is bad@ss too, but the reliabilty scares me. The GXP would be at the top of the list, but they are out of my price range, & hard to find anyhow...

It sounds like you've been thinking pretty seriously about selling the Mach for a long time... long enough to lose hair and gain some gray over it. [Razz]

I wouldn't touch an S4 with someone elses 10 foot pole. The M5 is definitely a lustworthy uber sedan but tough to mod and hard on the wallet when they get a few miles on them. The CTS-V's do have their weak points as well but they're cheap to maintain, inexpensive to fix, and easy to mod. A Gen 1 CTS-V and a GXP are very close in almost every aspect of their performance. It doesn't hurt that the V is a good 200 pounds lighter.

The fact that you've already done so much research on a replacement tells me that you've got one foot out the door already. Cars are a lot like women. If you're thinking about leaving, then you're as good as gone already. The only catch with a car is that you have to find both a suitable replacement and a suitor for your current relationship.

I don't think you'll have a tough time selling the Mach if you get serious about selling it. You might even get pretty close to your asking price.

You are correct dave, I have been thinking about this since last Thanksgiving. Its not that I don't love the mach anymore, its just that I need something different at this point...


I agree with what your saying, but if I do any mods to these cars I will leave it at the basics. Nothing more than catback exhaust, intake, mild lowering, & nicer wheels eventually. The CTS-V is much easier to mod, but major modding is what I am trying to avoid, & a nice comfy cruiser that sounds good, looks good, & is semi fast is what I would be looking for...

I totally agree. In fact, I already referred to "the basics"... 5th post from the top, page 2.

The basics just cost less for a V. I'll admit a soft spot for the M5 though. I couldn't get past the fear of massive repair bills either.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Dustin, you are not allowed to sell the car until we roll race! Mach1 vs B-headed '96 Shitbra.

And after you get your M5, I should have this, and we will race round-2

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Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
This is quickly becoming the most "EPIK" for sale thread ever. Its growing at a rapid pace and graced with stunning BMW's on every page.
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
Well, I made the mistake of test driving a super clean 2000 M5 today. & when I say test driving, I mean cruising it around a parking lot for 3 minutes LOL.. Man the car was nice, & road smoother than anything I have ever been in, but still firm at the same time... That is what really took my M5 love to the next level, & I really didn't even get to "DRIVE" the car yet...
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
Well, I made the mistake of test driving a super clean 2000 M5 today. & when I say test driving, I mean cruising it around a parking lot for 3 minutes LOL.. Man the car was nice, & road smoother than anything I have ever been in, but still firm at the same time... That is what really took my M5 love to the next level, & I really didn't even get to "DRIVE" the car yet...

She's taunted you from across the room. Just wait until you get to take her around the block.

There is something inexplicably good about a BMW, especially the M cars. The mix of ride and handling is tough to beat. They do everything well.

I think that explains why I love the GXP so much. When Holden developed the platform, they stole a lot of the M5 engineers from BMW. The underpinnings are very similar. A lot of journalists have made the comparison to the E39 M5.

[ August 11, 2010, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by its50 (Member # 4069) on :
 
oh yes we are..lol..for 16 yes we are [patriot] my mach is shot and i need another one to match my jacket..lol im gonna give you a holler in the morning after i talk to my lovely grand parents [patriot]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I'd have to agree with the so called "old guys" who say just dump it. Although I'd hate to see it go to some shit head who'll dog this shit out of it, I say dump it while you can. Like Dave said, if you've considered it, you might as well consider it gone...thats how I roll too (see sig for references [Big Grin] ).

If you're serious about an M5, I say do it! Those cars are bad ass stock! I'd slap a catback on it and roll! I'd love to get into one of those one day but the wife wants the newer 5-series bimmers more...so I may be headed that route once we have a little more money to play with. [burnout]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I'd have to agree with the so called "old guys" who say just dump it. Although I'd hate to see it go to some shit head who'll dog this shit out of it, I say dump it while you can. Like Dave said, if you've considered it, you might as well consider it gone...thats how I roll too (see sig for references [Big Grin] ).

If you're serious about an M5, I say do it! Those cars are bad ass stock! I'd slap a catback on it and roll! I'd love to get into one of those one day but the wife wants the newer 5-series bimmers more...so I may be headed that route once we have a little more money to play with. [burnout]

Yup, thats the plan Ian, M5 is my dream car right now.

BUT it is very hard to part ways with the Mach. It would be hard to watch it drive away, & that is how I have felt about every stang I owned, but I eventually got over them...

[ August 11, 2010, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Man didn't know you were thinking of getting rid of her been thinking the same about my coupe and the beater I drve around thinking of dumping both and buy the 7 series late model BMW to do the all around driving and use the vert for the meets and shows and cruises ,so yea I know how you feel bro
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Man didn't know you were thinking of getting rid of her been thinking the same about my coupe and the beater I drve around thinking of dumping both and buy the 7 series late model BMW to do the all around driving and use the vert for the meets and shows and cruises ,so yea I know how you feel bro

Yup, I've been thinking about it for almost a year, but I always change my mind. I have an obsession for the 2000-2003 BMW M5. To me, it's the complete package, fast, comfy, & good looking...

Who knows what i will do at this point, but if I do keep the Mach, I will be tweaking with some of the suspension to make the ride quality a little better, & possibly going with an IRS rear setup...
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Man didn't know you were thinking of getting rid of her been thinking the same about my coupe and the beater I drve around thinking of dumping both and buy the 7 series late model BMW to do the all around driving and use the vert for the meets and shows and cruises ,so yea I know how you feel bro

Yup, I've been thinking about it for almost a year, but I always change my mind. I have an obsession for the 2000-2003 BMW M5. To me, it's the complete package, fast, comfy, & good looking...

Who knows what i will do at this point, but if I do keep the Mach, I will be tweaking with some of the suspension to make the ride quality a little better, & possibly going with an IRS rear setup...

Dustin, just curious but why is your suspension so "harsh?" I have the whole MM rear setup in my cobra and had it in my 95 cobra and they are both fine for DD purposes. You have the bilstein HD's and coilovers so I couldnt imagine it being worse than mine. I bring my daughter in my car all the time and I'd never bring her in a car that was too rough...maybe you;re springs are too stiff [Confused]
 
Posted by maeco (Member # 2578) on :
 
I always believed in having a daily as nice as your weekend or toy car.the mach is super clean but you hardly drive it.I can understand if on the weekend you drive the mach a lot just to justify having it but then again you have the fox also.
As mentioned above it will be nice to have the fox,mach and also pick up the m5.just be carefull on picking one up without up to date maintenace records.I had an e36 m3 before and spent $1300 on replacing the water pump and thermostat.last year I brought the 5 series to the dealer cus no heat coming out,needless to say they didn't catch the problem the first time but it turned out to be the second water pump($2500)total both visit but luckily I had waranty still.good luck bro and post pic as soon as you pick up that bad boy [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Chris83179 (Member # 6017) on :
 
Budget fix. Sell the underutilized stiff suspension, do an IRS swap, polished tailpipes, and keep that shit. No sense in wasting 4 years of payments. Pay down the Mach, sell the beater, and scrape up some down payment money for the M5...

The Mach will still be the same picture whore it always has been [Big Grin]

And, 16k is a lot. The farthest this will go is a bunch of "only if I had the money" responses...

[ August 11, 2010, 10:14 AM: Message edited by: Chris83179 ]
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
Its time...lol just think of how much money you would save.
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[Wink]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
TRUE!!!

DOHC and they can be purchsed for $2500

Dustin, it makes sense man... Even though the air suspension can be a real bitch. Ask me how I know.

Would be nice not to have a payment.
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
TRUE!!!

DOHC and they can be purchsed for $2500

Dustin, it makes sense man... Even though the air suspension can be a real bitch. Ask me how I know.

Would be nice not to have a payment.

I don't know why the air ride gets such a bad rap,just like any other car after 100k the components need to be replaced. [Wink]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
TRUE!!!

DOHC and they can be purchsed for $2500

Dustin, it makes sense man... Even though the air suspension can be a real bitch. Ask me how I know.

Would be nice not to have a payment.

I don't know why the air ride gets such a bad rap,just like any other car after 100k the components need to be replaced. [Wink]
No, because in that you have to trace vacuum lines, not replace a single shock or strut. The motor, the pump, grounds etc etc etc.....
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
TRUE!!!

DOHC and they can be purchsed for $2500

Dustin, it makes sense man... Even though the air suspension can be a real bitch. Ask me how I know.

Would be nice not to have a payment.

I don't know why the air ride gets such a bad rap,just like any other car after 100k the components need to be replaced. [Wink]
No, because in that you have to trace vacuum lines, not replace a single shock or strut. The motor, the pump, grounds etc etc etc.....
ehh... for the price you cant beat the ride quality!
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
What year lincolns are the best?
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
What year lincolns are the best?

Definitely not 1865!
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
What year lincolns are the best?

Can you be more specific yater? [Confused]
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
What year lincolns are the best?

Can you be more specific yater? [Confused]
Like that body style, the red one in the pic. Which years had the 4.6 4 valve in em?
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
What year lincolns are the best?

Can you be more specific yater? [Confused]
Like that body style, the red one in the pic. Which years had the 4.6 4 valve in em?
93-98, all of the mark8's with that body style were the 32v, the 96+ got the better beehive valve springs like the 96-98 cobra's iirc.
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Nice, sounds like a good DD
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
What year lincolns are the best?

Can you be more specific yater? [Confused]
Like that body style, the red one in the pic. Which years had the 4.6 4 valve in em?
The 4.6 32v was developed in 1992 for the "new" 1993 Lincoln Mark viii. 93' to 98 are equipped with the 32v "The cobra has the Mark motor" not "The Mark has the cobra motor" [Wink]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
Licolns are not on the same level as a BMW M5. who the hell wants an old ass 98 Lincoln? their UGLY! people grow up and there tastes and needs change. Screw brand loyalty. Do what works best for YOU! If Dustin wants to sell his Mach 1 then more power to him. I'm sure whatever he gets he will post about 10 thousand pics in the first week he gets it lol! [Big Grin] Lord knows I have debated about getting rid of my cobra for a E55 benz etc for quite a while....
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Nice, sounds like a good DD

In my op "The" Mark to get would be the 1996 Lsc because the 96 has the updated valve body "93-95's have a problem with a faulty 1-2 shift actuator springs that would crack and cause a vary harsh 1-2 shift also, pre 96s had the worst headlight design in history. This was corrected in 96' with stock Hids "if i recall right the first American car to offer them stock." The lsc model has an extra 10hp over the "base" model 290 stock and upgraded wheels monochrome grill as well as better seats.
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Licolns are not on the same level as a BMW M5. who the hell wants an old ass 98 Lincoln? their UGLY! people grow up and there tastes and needs change. Screw brand loyalty. Do what works best for YOU! If Dustin wants to sell his Mach 1 then more power to him. I'm sure whatever he gets he will post about 10 thousand pics in the first week he gets it lol! [Big Grin] Lord knows I have debated about getting rid of my cobra for a E55 benz etc for quite a while....

Don't be hatin!..lol
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Nice, sounds like a good DD

In my op "The" Mark to get would be the 1996 Lsc because the 96 has the updated valve body "93-95's have a problem with a faulty 1-2 shift actuator springs that would crack and cause a vary harsh 1-2 shift also, pre 96s had the worst headlight design in history. This was corrected in 96' with stock Hids "if i recall right the first American car to offer them stock." The lsc model has an extra 10hp over the "base" model 290 stock and upgraded wheels monochrome grill as well as better seats.
Those cars are ugly piles of shit!
 
Posted by quickblue302 (Member # 7912) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Nice, sounds like a good DD

In my op "The" Mark to get would be the 1996 Lsc because the 96 has the updated valve body "93-95's have a problem with a faulty 1-2 shift actuator springs that would crack and cause a vary harsh 1-2 shift also, pre 96s had the worst headlight design in history. This was corrected in 96' with stock Hids "if i recall right the first American car to offer them stock." The lsc model has an extra 10hp over the "base" model 290 stock and upgraded wheels monochrome grill as well as better seats.
Those cars are ugly piles of shit!
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[Razz]
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Damn why ya gotta be a Lincoln hater?

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Posted by Sco Cuddie (Member # 6757) on :
 
^^ LOL

I bet half the people don't even know who that is.


EPIK: The Mach is a beautiful thing but I can totally understand you wanting a more comfy ride. Heck, I sometime choose to drive my beater Honda Civic because I know I can leave it anywhere without worrying about it. Pick up the M5, I guarantee you'll forget all about the Mach.
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:
^^ LOL

I bet half the people don't even know who that is.


EPIK: The Mach is a beautiful thing but I can totally understand you wanting a more comfy ride. Heck, I sometime choose to drive my beater Honda Civic because I know I can leave it anywhere without worrying about it. Pick up the M5, I guarantee you'll forget all about the Mach.

John wilkes booth... [Razz]
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Yaterstang:
Nice, sounds like a good DD

In my op "The" Mark to get would be the 1996 Lsc because the 96 has the updated valve body "93-95's have a problem with a faulty 1-2 shift actuator springs that would crack and cause a vary harsh 1-2 shift also, pre 96s had the worst headlight design in history. This was corrected in 96' with stock Hids "if i recall right the first American car to offer them stock." The lsc model has an extra 10hp over the "base" model 290 stock and upgraded wheels monochrome grill as well as better seats.
Those cars are ugly piles of shit!
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[Razz]

oh, im not mad. I just think getting one of those would be a downgrade.
 
Posted by Poisond Pony (Member # 5141) on :
 
if you sell the Mach, it just means you're afraid of the GT beating it [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Termin8Him (Member # 7895) on :
 
so tempted to take that car off your hands...well whoever gets it, theyre gonna get a nice car.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by quickblue302:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
TRUE!!!

DOHC and they can be purchsed for $2500

Dustin, it makes sense man... Even though the air suspension can be a real bitch. Ask me how I know.

Would be nice not to have a payment.

I don't know why the air ride gets such a bad rap,just like any other car after 100k the components need to be replaced. [Wink]
When the components are new, the ride is great, but when they start to go, it can result in a trouble shooting headache and expensive parts replacements. As Don said above, it's not like replacing a shock or a strut on your traditional suspension automobile.

You have air bags, an expensive compressor, air lines, air solenoids, ride height sensors, a motherboard (off the PCM itself), etc...

I've owned a 95 Mark8 and although there are some redeaming qualities, I eventually got fed up with the air suspension and unloaded the car.

It's very comfortable, has the DOHC engine, IRS, all the bells and whistles, and the car can be lowered by adjusting the electronic sensors.

But I will never own one again.
 
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on :
 
I got rid of my 01' and I've never looked back, I LOVE my car. Although I do I see a project fox in my future, as I still am a mustang guy at heart. But the looks, the attention, did I mention girls jock the shit out of the caddy, which I'm sure is no different than a G8 or M5 I'm sure.

You're in such a good situation Dustin. A paid off (bad ass) fox. I would do this in a heart beat. Hell I did it, and I don't even have a stang, it sucks, but I'm much happier now. And I know I'll get another stang soon.

Like Dave said, you've pretty much made up your mind. And this for sale thread backs up that decision even more.


Nothing better than hangin with "fast" cars with your family sedan. It's pretty bad ass. Lol
 
Posted by Slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Sell the notch and use the money to pay down the Mach. If you STILL want to sell the mach..... Everything you get for it will go to the new down payment. [patriot]
 
Posted by 90_STANG015 (Member # 8990) on :
 
i like how you say it in 3rd person "epiks mach 1" for sale
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
WOW!!!! This thread blew up & ended up in general talk LOL...


I am seriously torn about this situation fellas. I love my car to death, & can't see it in someone elses possession. I have put so much work into this thing, hell the freshly built top end is barely even broken in. But there comes a time to realize, its just a car, they come & go...

I will be quite honest, the reason I have been wanting to get rid of the mach for the most part is, the ride quality is pretty rough & I feel its more of a chore to drive than it is enjoyable. This is mainly due to the suspension setup, & the ride height. If I raised the ride height a bit, & finally installed the tq arm, the ride would be much nicer & the car would be better balanced. Since I'm done racing the car, an IRS setup would be ideal & would change the whole feel of the car.


BUT, on the other hand, it would be nice to have a comfy "fast" sedan to drive around that I could actually have more than 1 passenger in. Let me also remind you guys, IF I do get into a sedan, I DO NOT plan on doing any heavy modding, thats what the coupe is for...


As far as me selling the notch, that is NOT gonna happen. Although it is not anywhere near as clean as the Mach, I would rather have that platform as my race car. IMO, it is more fun to drive, although it doesn't turn as many heads...


I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

[ August 11, 2010, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by Sco Cuddie (Member # 6757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
WOW!!!! This thread blew up & ended up in general talk LOL...


I am seriously torn about this situation fellas. I love my car to death, & can't see it in someone elses possession. I have put so much work into this thing, hell the freshly built top end is barely even broken in. But there comes a time to realize, its just a car, they come & go...

I will be quite honest, the reason I have been wanting to get rid of the mach for the most part is, the ride quality is pretty rough & I feel its more of a chore to drive than it is enjoyable. This is mainly due to the suspension setup, & the ride height. If I raised the ride height a bit, & finally installed the tq arm, the ride would be much nicer & the car would be better balanced. Since I'm done racing the car, an IRS setup would be ideal & would change the whole feel of the car.


BUT, on the other hand, it would be nice to have a comfy "fast" sedan to drive around that I could actually have more than 1 passenger in. Let me also remind you guys, IF I do get into a sedan, I DO NOT plan on doing any heavy modding, thats what the coupe is for...


As far as me selling the notch, that is NOT gonna happen. Although it is not anywhere near as clean as the Mach, I would rather have that platform as my race car. IMO, it is more fun to drive, although it doesn't turn as many heads...


I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

Figured I would throw this out there...

Why not switch out some of you suspension components and install an air ride system into to Mach? Air Ride Technologies has a pretty nice set up that would work for your Mach. With the air ride, your ride quality improves tremendously, you can get the car as low as you want, and from what I read, it give the car some good traction.

Going thru Air Ride Technologies is quite expensive, but you can piece together a set up for much cheaper.
 
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

There's plenty of Mark's floating around (even a few on Craigslist) that have had their air ride completely removed and converted to a traditional springs/shocks/struts setup... considering it's still a 4 valve, and still a coupe, only bigger and heavier and Automatic... I'd keep the Mach, and swap to an IRS and swap in some more "streetable" springs... what spring rates are you running now? Is it coilover converted?
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

There's plenty of Mark's floating around (even a few on Craigslist) that have had their air ride completely removed and converted to a traditional springs/shocks/struts setup... considering it's still a 4 valve, and still a coupe, only bigger and heavier and Automatic... I'd keep the Mach, and swap to an IRS and swap in some more "streetable" springs... what spring rates are you running now? Is it coilover converted?
IMO, a coil spring converted mark 8 takes away most of the uniqueness of the car, plus the ride wouldn't be as nice...


The mach has full coilovers 325 lb front & 225 lb rear. after talking things over with maximum motorsports today, they say that the rear coilover spring rate without the tq arm installed are the root of my problems, along with the low ride height. I think if I get the tq arm installed, the ride quality will be MUCH better, although the IRS would be even better...

[ August 11, 2010, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by Sco Cuddie (Member # 6757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

There's plenty of Mark's floating around (even a few on Craigslist) that have had their air ride completely removed and converted to a traditional springs/shocks/struts setup... considering it's still a 4 valve, and still a coupe, only bigger and heavier and Automatic... I'd keep the Mach, and swap to an IRS and swap in some more "streetable" springs... what spring rates are you running now? Is it coilover converted?
IMO, a coil spring converted mark 8 takes away most of the uniqueness of the car, plus the ride wouldn't be as nice...


The mach has full coilovers 325 lb front & 225 lb rear. after talking things over with maximum motorsports today, they say that the rear coilover spring rate without the tq arm installed are the root of my problems, along with the low ride height. I think if I get the tq arm installed, the ride quality will be MUCH better, although the IRS would be even better...

Or throw in Air Ride into the Mach like I mentioned above...

You mentioned your not racing the car anymore so why throw in a tq arm and other suspension components if they won't be utilized fully? Just a thought...

[ August 11, 2010, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Sco Cuddie ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
I actually like Lincoln Mark 8's, but I wouldn't plan on buying 1 unless the air suspension was completely rebuilt...

There's plenty of Mark's floating around (even a few on Craigslist) that have had their air ride completely removed and converted to a traditional springs/shocks/struts setup... considering it's still a 4 valve, and still a coupe, only bigger and heavier and Automatic... I'd keep the Mach, and swap to an IRS and swap in some more "streetable" springs... what spring rates are you running now? Is it coilover converted?
IMO, a coil spring converted mark 8 takes away most of the uniqueness of the car, plus the ride wouldn't be as nice...


The mach has full coilovers 325 lb front & 225 lb rear. after talking things over with maximum motorsports today, they say that the rear coilover spring rate without the tq arm installed are the root of my problems, along with the low ride height. I think if I get the tq arm installed, the ride quality will be MUCH better, although the IRS would be even better...

Or throw in Air Ride into the Mach like I mentioned above...

You mentioned your not racing the car anymore so why throw in a tq arm and other suspension components if they won't be utilized fully? Just a thought...

My bad, I saw your reply, but throwing in the air ride is too much IMO. I would rather just go IRS. I already have the tq arm, just haven't installed it BTW...
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
ON THE OTHER HAND... I can't stop thinking about myself hopping into this thing everyday LOL...

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[ August 11, 2010, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Dustin man come up with a plan and stick with it. I see you wobbling back and forth from selling it to maybe doint the tq arm and other stuff. Either sell the mach or put money into it and keep it. Dont put more money into it then sell it. Post the thing for sale forreal on all the sites out there. If it doesn't get gone in 2 months time then you already know the BMW situation is not your reality.

Just do it man. People (including you) were forreal telling me not to sell my fox but I'm in a much better situation now with a car I'm completely happy with. Take 1 step back so you can take 2 steps forward.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Dustin,

If your not sure that you want to keep the car any money your putting into it is a waste. Be smart with it bro.
 
Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
The idea of having a car payment on a 13-15 year old car, isnt appealing. I like your mach alot better than an old m5. Your mach is too clean and the mods are right on. good luck with your choice.
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
Like I said, I love the car, but I just wish I had better ride quality. Doing an IRS swap wouldn't cost me a penny if I did a trade...
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Is this thing sold yet?

M5 NATION!!! [worship]

Those silver ones are badass EPIK!

And 50 is right, sometimes you just have to make a decision and go with it. Sometimes you make the right decision, and other times you realize you made a mistake. The good news is that you can always go back since these late model Mustangs are so common. Even when you make a mistake, chances are you learn something valuable from it. There are a lot of awesome cars out there. Experience something different.

I made a decision and sold my Notch. I now have a DOHC car that is a better all-around fit for me now and I have no regrets. If I did, I can always go back to a notch. [Big Grin]

But man, the flip flopping... no good!

[ August 11, 2010, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Is this thing sold yet?

M5 NATION!!! [worship]

Those silver ones are badass EPIK!

And 50 is right, sometimes you just have to make a decision and go with it. Sometimes you make the right decision, and other times you realize you made a mistake. The good news is that you can always go back since these late model Mustangs are so common. Even when you make a mistake, chances are you learn something valuable from it. There are a lot of awesome cars out there. Experience something different.

I made a decision and sold my Notch. I now have a DOHC car that is a better all-around fit for me now and I have no regrets. If I did, I can always go back to a notch. [Big Grin]

But man, the flip flopping... no good!

Yes, you are right, flip floppin is not a good idea, but I also need to think about what is better for my pocket book as well.
 
Posted by Notch1320 (Member # 2647) on :
 
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
 
Posted by Sco Cuddie (Member # 6757) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
But an M5's gas mileage is, if I remember correctly, 16mpg. They aren't exactly gas efficient either...especially for a DD
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
But an M5's gas mileage is, if I remember correctly, 16mpg. They aren't exactly gas efficient either...especially for a DD
True, but I bet a Harley F150 gets like 10-12 around town... Work is only 10 miles away, so gas mileage isnt the biggest concern, but it does matter...

[ August 11, 2010, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by fstryde3 (Member # 8436) on :
 
Doing all this reading 4 pages now and just thinking about my own experiences I would honestly say if you are thinking about it this much and going back and forth this much it is time to move on. Yeah your car is sick but you clearly have it in your brain that you may get something else. It's just like with a chick once you start questioning her and thinking about other chicks it's time to replace her. Do it don't look back and enjoy it. Hell if you go through with it the M5 sucks you sell it and get something else. Either way man have fun finding a new car that is the best part about this.
 
Posted by 87droptop50 (Member # 7185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
i DD my harley truck ... Its bad ass to have a nice truck to tow your nice car...
On the other hand a cts-v wouldn be a best DD ... I should have one by october if all everything goes ok
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Harley trucks are whack, the bed is short as hell. You might as well get a explorer sport trac and put a termi in it.
 
Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
Get rid of it! Buy the "V". Get bored of the V after a year or two and sell it. Buy the new 5.0 [Wink]
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Sco Cuddie:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
But an M5's gas mileage is, if I remember correctly, 16mpg. They aren't exactly gas efficient either...especially for a DD
True, but I bet a Harley F150 gets like 10-12 around town... Work is only 10 miles away, so gas mileage isnt the biggest concern, but it does matter...
I get 15mpg no matter how I drive mine, my commute if I drive it to work is 2 miles each way. On a tank that's all highway I've managed 17mpg doing 80mph with the a/c and cruise on.

I use the bed of it all the time, fits motors + trans, complete IRS, complete rear ends, etc just fine, it has a bed extender and a rubber bed mat.

oh ya, and it makes 14psi and barks the 1-2, and the 2-3 shift [Eek!]

 -
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the interior is the best part, no other truck compares.

[ August 11, 2010, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: Blind ]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
So... like this one? [Big Grin]

 -
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Notch1320:
What about buying a HD F150? You would have room for passengers, easy to mod tastefully, decent ride, and you could tow the Notch to the track.

Just an idea.... I couldnt live without a truck!

Those are sweet as hell, but the only color I like is the silver & black 2 tone & black is a no go for a DD IMO. the Charcoal grey would be nice if it didn't have the hideous flame pinstripe along the side... Also, they get piss poor gas mileage...
So... like this one? [Big Grin]

 -

Exactly like that 1!!! Thats a badass truck Dave!!!
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Thanks, Dustin! Its my DD and tow vehicle. It works great with the rear helper bag setup and onboard compressor.

And yes, the in town mileage sucks. The only thing worse is towing LOL. Good thing my commute to the office is less than 5 miles.
 
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on :
 
Who's house is this in front of? LOL
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
Well, after all this talk. I think I will most likely stick with what I have for now. Like somebody told me today, if I get the ride quality the way I want, I will fall in love with the car all over again...

Financially, it will put me in a better position rather than starting over & owing $20k+ again on a car. Maybe I can just sell the DD jetta & pick up a nice 99-04 Crown Vic for a DD. I know its no CTS-V, or M5, but if its comfy enough for grandma & grandpa, it should be comfy enough for me LOL... Plus I know how reliable they are, & VERY cheap to get...

I actually raised up the front ride height by about a 1/2" tonight, & it definitely improved the ride quality, the rear needs the most work though. With the tq arm, or IRS installed, the car will have a better ride quality again...

[ August 12, 2010, 01:44 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Thanks, Dustin! Its my DD and tow vehicle. It works great with the rear helper bag setup and onboard compressor.

And yes, the in town mileage sucks. The only thing worse is towing LOL. Good thing my commute to the office is less than 5 miles.

Very nice DD... I don't think you even have 1 weak link in your fleet
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by iceman302:
Thanks, Dustin! Its my DD and tow vehicle. It works great with the rear helper bag setup and onboard compressor.

And yes, the in town mileage sucks. The only thing worse is towing LOL. Good thing my commute to the office is less than 5 miles.

Very nice DD... I don't think you even have 1 weak link in your fleet
[Big Grin]

Thanks.

And the weak link is that my Fastback is nowhere near finished. I am enjoying the '65 coupe though. I took it out to Red Robin in Folsom again tonight with my son in the passenger seat. My father-in-law pulled out his '66 Corvette roadster for its maiden voyage after an 8 year restoration. The weather was in the mid to low 80's. It doesn't get much better than that.

As for the Mach, maybe your relationship just grew a little stale from familiarity. Changing it up a bit and shifting the ride more to your liking isn't a bad idea. It sounds like you're going to give her another chance LOL.
 
Posted by vendicated_03gt (Member # 9815) on :
 
i dont know you epik but i always see things put up bout you. n u sound like a koo guy.. i say keep the mach, it will crush you if u ever see it down the road with a new owner trust me. n i gotta give it to you, that mach 1 of yours ................. wow. best i have ever seen !!!!!!! this might sound a bit wierd but i even have it as my comperters back groung. lmao !!!
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Is this thing sold yet?

M5 NATION!!! [worship]

Those silver ones are badass EPIK!

And 50 is right, sometimes you just have to make a decision and go with it. Sometimes you make the right decision, and other times you realize you made a mistake. The good news is that you can always go back since these late model Mustangs are so common. Even when you make a mistake, chances are you learn something valuable from it. There are a lot of awesome cars out there. Experience something different.

I made a decision and sold my Notch. I now have a DOHC car that is a better all-around fit for me now and I have no regrets. If I did, I can always go back to a notch. [Big Grin]

But man, the flip flopping... no good!

Yes, you are right, flip floppin is not a good idea, but I also need to think about what is better for my pocket book as well.
I hear that.

I am always surprised at the guys who can balance two or more "toys"

One keeps my hands full, and my projects aren't even that involved, lol.
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Keep it. It's much more fun rollin' into the garage and deciding which car to drive for the day. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
says the man with 2 "extreamly slow" cobras lol
to bad i only have one toy to choose from
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
Keep it. It's much more fun rollin' into the garage and deciding which car to drive for the day. [Big Grin]


 
Posted by O4COBRA (Member # 10015) on :
 
Ah man, 5 pages just to read that you're keeping it!! I've been thinking about selling the blue car ever since you called me the other day. I would love to take that off your hands, and make sure it stays just as clean! Let me know...
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by vendicated_03gt:
i dont know you epik but i always see things put up bout you. n u sound like a koo guy.. i say keep the mach, it will crush you if u ever see it down the road with a new owner trust me. n i gotta give it to you, that mach 1 of yours ................. wow. best i have ever seen !!!!!!! this might sound a bit wierd but i even have it as my comperters back groung. lmao !!!

Thanks bro, I really appreciate the compliments...
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by O4COBRA:
Ah man, 5 pages just to read that you're keeping it!! I've been thinking about selling the blue car ever since you called me the other day. I would love to take that off your hands, and make sure it stays just as clean! Let me know...

Well, its hard to part with it. But I think overall its a better decision to keep it & finish the suspension setup. It would be hard seeing someone else behind the wheel, but I think if you picked it up, you would appreciate it, & take care of it as much as I do...

I can't say that I haven't been thinking about M5's all week since I drove 1 on Tuesday...

[ August 13, 2010, 01:05 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 
Posted by O4COBRA (Member # 10015) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by O4COBRA:
Ah man, 5 pages just to read that you're keeping it!! I've been thinking about selling the blue car ever since you called me the other day. I would love to take that off your hands, and make sure it stays just as clean! Let me know...

Well, its hard to part with it. But I think overall its a better decision to keep it & finish the suspension setup. It would be hard seeing someone else behind the wheel, but I think if you picked it up, you would appreciate it, & take care of it as much as I do...

I can't say that I haven't been thinking about M5's all week since I drove 1 on Tuesday...

So it sounds like you're saying show you the money, and make you part with it. I'm going to put a little bit more effort into this, and see what I can do. The blue car is getting a little old and boring...
 
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on :
 
Uh oh. My forecast is partly cloudy with a 70% chance of "flip flopping".

[ August 13, 2010, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by O4COBRA:
quote:
Originally posted by EPIK:
quote:
Originally posted by O4COBRA:
Ah man, 5 pages just to read that you're keeping it!! I've been thinking about selling the blue car ever since you called me the other day. I would love to take that off your hands, and make sure it stays just as clean! Let me know...

Well, its hard to part with it. But I think overall its a better decision to keep it & finish the suspension setup. It would be hard seeing someone else behind the wheel, but I think if you picked it up, you would appreciate it, & take care of it as much as I do...

I can't say that I haven't been thinking about M5's all week since I drove 1 on Tuesday...

So it sounds like you're saying show you the money, and make you part with it. I'm going to put a little bit more effort into this, and see what I can do. The blue car is getting a little old and boring...
well...Hmmmm, you never know what I would do if someone had the cash in my face LOL???
[Big Grin]

[ August 13, 2010, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 




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