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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
***CAR IS SOLD-THANKS CAFords!!!***


Well, the Mustang is finally done! And that means it's time to list it for sale. This car just passed Smog with flying colors, and has had a professional alignment since the installation of all the new suspension goodies. 90% of the parts on this car are brand new, and have only been once around my block to make sure everything works, and then back and forth to the Smog shop and alignment place.



Starting with a basic '88 Notch, I stripped the car to the bare tub, scrubbed and painted the entire underside of the vehicle, repairing minor cracks in the floor pan, welding seems, etc. Then I built the car, essentially from the ground up with the following parts.

Chassis and Suspension:

Maximum Motorsports Full Length Subframe Connectors
UPR Upper and Lower Torque Box Reinforcing "Battle Box" Kit
Maximum Motorsports Six Point Roll Cage
Maximum Motorsports K-Member Brace
Maximum Motorsports Strut Tower Bar
Maximum Motorsports Caster/Camber Plates
2003 SVT Cobra Control arms with Urethane Bushings
Flaming River Quick Ratio Power Rack & Pinion
Maximum Motorsports Aluminum Rack Bushings
Maximum Motorsports Collapsible Steering Shaft
Maximum Motorsports SN95 Bump Steer Kit
Koni Yellow Adjustable Struts
Maximum Motorsports Front Coilovers w/500lb Springs
Stock 4-Cylinder Front Swaybar w/ Urethane Bushings & Links
Racecraft SN95 Dropped Spindles
New OEM SN95 Hubs
Baer Brakes 13" Front C6 Corvette Brake Kit
Stainless Steel Front Brake Lines
Koni Yellow Adjustable Shocks
Maximum Motorsports Rear Coilovers w/ 375lb Springs
Stock GT Rear Swaybar
Maximum Motorsports Heavy Duty Rear Lower Control Arms
Edelbrock Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms
Maximum Motorsports Panhard Bar
Eaton Brute Force 31-Spline Clutch Type Posi Unit
Tom's Kick Ass Fox Length 31-Spline Axles
Trick Flow Rear End Girdle
Baer Brakes 12.65" Rear C5 Corvette Brake Kit
Stainless Steel Rear Brake Lines









Power Train:

90,000 mile '95 Shortblock with ported E7's
Crane Compucam 2040 Cam & Lifters (Same as E Cam)
Edelbrock Performer EFI Intake Manifold
Edelbrock 70mm Throttle Body & Spacer
Holley Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
C&L 73mm Mass Air Meter
24-lb Cobra (Thin Body) Fuel Injectors
MSD 6AL Box, Blaster TFI Coil, Cap, Rotor, and Plug Wires
MAC Ceramic Coated Headers
Ford Racing Underdrive Pulleys
3G Alternator Upgrade w/ 2-Gauge Power Wire
Stock 4-Cat H-Pipe (for SMOG)
Spintech Catback Exhaust (Sounds Wicked)
Summit Racing Aluminum Radiator
Ford Racing Silicone Hose Kit
Custom Wired Taurus Fan with Integral Controller
Trick Flow A/C Eliminator
Prothane Urethane Motor Mounts
Stock T5 Transmission
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
Steeda Firewall Adjuster, Double Hook Quadrant, and Adjustable Cable
Hurst Shifter
Prothane Urethane Transmission Mount
Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft



Interior:

Custom Upholstered Recaro SE Seats
Stroud 5-Point Harnesses
Grant GT Wheel w/ Quick Disconnect
Hurst Chrome Tall Shifter Handle w/ White Hurst Ball
Autometer Phantom 5" Tach w/ ShiftLight
New Black Carpet Kit
Stock Rear Seat (but good luck getting in it)
All interior panels and stock rear seat were carefully fitted around rollcage





Rolling Stock:

18x9" FR500 Wheels; Black w/ Polished Lip
P245/40ZR18 Sumitomo HTRZII's
Less than 100 miles on the set.

Misc:

Trunk Mounted Battery
Fuel Pump Shutoff switch
Baer Brakes Master Cylinder, Booster, and Adjustable Proportioning Valve

The Bad:

(1)The body isn't perfect; there are some dings, a couple of small dents, and the paint is slightly off-shade on one of the doors and both bumpers (I swapped these parts because they were in better shape than the ones that were on the car and I was planning on going to Maaco). I still might paint the car if it doesn't sell right away.

(2)The gauges in the stock instrument cluster don't all work (I am trying to fix this right now).


Anyway, I'm sure I've forgotten some things, but that get's you the basic idea. This car is ready to go out and dominate the road course, or drift around your favorite canyon. You will not find a more well-sorted, expertly assembled fox body for any price. I have worked in racing and high performance shops in the past, and have over 10 years of professional mechanical experience. I was building this car with the intention of keeping it, so you can be sure that it was built right. I even have a fastener checklist with torque values that I used when I went through the car on assembly. It is SOLID!

I'm asking $10,000 obo for this car, because that is what I have wrapped up in just suspension, steering, brakes, and chassis stiffening. Basically you buy all of that and the rest of the car is free!

Feel free to email me with any questions!

Thanks,
Casey Hudson
cjhudson87@msn.com

[ July 09, 2010, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by STANGBOY (Member # 7868) on :
 
anytrades for an 86 coupe

[ May 06, 2010, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: STANGBOY ]
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
See list of potential trades below. Thanks!

[ June 19, 2010, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by 73 on DUBS (Member # 5677) on :
 
PICS PLEASE SOUNDS LIKE A BAD ASS COUPE
 

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Posted by CHP2981 (Member # 9240) on :
 
Hey Casey what's up so your almost done huh just paint it and drive it. I think the best way to advertise is to drive it. Usually when you don't want to sell it and just driving around is when people ask about it. Good luck
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
BTT...

PLEASE!!!

Read my ad before emailing me. Don't waste my time and I won't waste yours. I just exchanged SEVERAL emails with two different members, both of which didn't see my $10k asking price. I might be willing to negotiate my price, but this is not a $3,500 notch...so don't waste my time if you aren't on the level.

PS-I have a hood, and a few moldings still left to install on the car. More exterior shots to follow, but whoever buys this car isn't going to buy it for the exterior anyway.
 

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Posted by RODRIGUEZ (Member # 9104) on :
 
TTT for a bad ass coupe.

If I was you I would just paint it and keep it dude.

I'm sure you put in ALOT of hours of you're life that you will never get back building this coupe.

And also, it would be a bitch to have to do it all over again.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
BTT
 

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Posted by 89FOX (Member # 4273) on :
 
bad ass road racer!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Somebody by this car before I get arrested for driving like an asshole!!! I don't mean to hijack my own post, but I don't think I'm mature enough to own a car like this!
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
this car is dope...if you dont sell it just put jaejae in your will ..goodluck with sale..amazing car
 

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Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
I got a 61 jaguar xk9 for ya.....

Sick car though. Love to swap in a 03/04 drivetrain and kill the track
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Hey...email me pics and details on that Jag. My email address is cjhudson87@msn.com if you're serious.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Just FYI; I will consider partial to full trades for some classic cars, E36 BMW m3's, late 90's to early 2000's Porsche Boxsters, C5 Corvettes, etc. I will consider a VERY partial trade (like up to $3,000 off my price) for a good condition, lower mileage Nissan or Toyota 2WD pickup truck.
 

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Posted by welch93lx (Member # 8748) on :
 
trade for a 1998 BMW 740IL BLACK ON BLACK??
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by welch93lx:
trade for a 1998 BMW 740IL BLACK ON BLACK??

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PM sent!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
As I said before, I am open to offers...and suggestions. I am thinking of going the eBay route. Has anybody ever tried that, and how much success did you have with it?
 

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Posted by ponystroker (Member # 7635) on :
 
i have if your interested an ls2 1993 rx7. but you would have to put some cash on top..let me know.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
That sounds like a sick car, but I don't really have any extra $$$.

TTT!!!


 

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Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
Nice ride!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Just posted up on Corral...I'm gonna give the car one week there, and then I think I'm gonna do an eBay listing (I will set a reserve $1,000-2,000 below my current asking price). I'd really like to see the car stay in Northern California, so if you think you want it make me an offer. Me and my buddy have been working on a fun video of what this beast is capable of too...I'll have that on YouTube as soon as it's all edited together (can you say 70mph power-slide!?!). Also got the hood painted and installed. Here's a pic!!!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
TTT...no reasonable offer refused!
 

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Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
That's a clean look'n notch man ! I had an 87ssp with a built 347/novi2000 and a 10pt cage , corbeau racing seats , saleen/racecraft suspension , subframe cnnecters , tremecTKO 600 , alum driveshaft , m&m torque arm , panhard bar and tons and tons of other mods . The thing is to remember with these cars n actually not just mustangs but all cars is that no matter how hard you try you'll never get back what you put in to it when trying to sell . I know it sucks but that's just the way it is . N believe me , I took a serious hit on selling that mustang but needed the dough n had to take a loss on it . But anyhow , very nice car bro n GLWS !!!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Thanks for the compliments, and kind words. It sounds like your car was insanely cool. I can't imagine this thing with a blower.

The bottom line is, I am taking a tremendous hit at $10k, but I'm willing to go even lower than that if somebody brings a serious cash offer to the table. That being said though, I've sold quite a few fox bodies over the years, and I know roughly what a modded car of this caliber is worth, so I think that my expectations are pretty much in line with the price I'm gonna end up sellin this thing for.
 

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Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
Yea , I hear ya . I also have owned/sold more foxbody's than I care to remember and I know what kind of values they carry aswell . My point was that it's gonna be hard period to even get close as to what you may have into it .
 

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Posted by FATALPNY408 (Member # 8896) on :
 
AROUND HOW MUCH HORSE POWER DOES IT HAVE?
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by Nifty50:
Yea , I hear ya . I also have owned/sold more foxbody's than I care to remember and I know what kind of values they carry aswell . My point was that it's gonna be hard period to even get close as to what you may have into it .

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Originally posted by Nifty50:
Most definitely brotha , I was never disagreeing with your
asking price . In fact , I think it's a good deal considering all the mods it has . Buy like you were saying , you have damn near 20k into it . Overall , I think it's a great car and I wish you the best of luck with your sale .

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Yeah...it's a fair price for sure, but it's a tough market right now. It's a lot easier to sell a $5k car than it is to sell a $10k car with this economy...even if the $5k car isn't half the bargain that the $10k car is. I just think that the people with $10k cash are fewer and further between than they were 2 years ago.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Dude! I love CAFords!!! I just had a guy offer me $4,000, but asked if he could do payments. He wanted to take the car today, and told me he'd give me $2,000 on July 29th and another $2,000 on August 15th. And the worst part is I think he was trying to be serious!!! Economy must be worse than I thought.
 

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Posted by BIzKitBrAIn (Member # 4018) on :
 

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
Dude! I love CAFords!!! I just had a guy offer me $4,000, but asked if he could do payments. He wanted to take the car today, and told me he'd give me $2,000 on July 29th and another $2,000 on August 15th. And the worst part is I think he was trying to be serious!!! Economy must be worse than I thought.

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:

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Originally posted by Nifty50:
Most definitely brotha , I was never disagreeing with your
asking price . In fact , I think it's a good deal considering all the mods it has . Buy like you were saying , you have damn near 20k into it . Overall , I think it's a great car and I wish you the best of luck with your sale .

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Yeah...it's a fair price for sure, but it's a tough market right now. It's a lot easier to sell a $5k car than it is to sell a $10k car with this economy...even if the $5k car isn't half the bargain that the $10k car is. I just think that the people with $10k cash are fewer and further between than they were 2 years ago.

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Originally posted by JBeezy53:
If this car sells for $7000 I'll probably cry because I didn't give up $7500 for it. I'm about to buy a house and need to buy another truck. Lol..... I thought about selling my Cobra so I could get it w/o pulling cash out the bank.

Good luck with the sell, hopefully you can hold out for more.

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Buy It!!! If you bring me $7500 cash before somebody else brings me that much or more it's yours.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
First cash offer at or above $6500 and I'll pull the motor and trans and sell you the roller. I do require a deposit before pulling the motor and trans!

[ July 06, 2010, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
damn this is a deal! Anyone that knows suspension parts should know that this car is SET UP! Someone should snatch this is ASAP! I wish I could Good luck!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Thanks for the kind words!
 

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Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
damn i dont know why no one has bought this car yet, even on the corral no one was biting.. i wish i had the money for it.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Well, like I said...I have had offers, just none of them quite where I want them to be. I think it's just a matter of time before I get together with somebody on this thing though. She's smogged and ready to go guys!!! This is a bad ass fox body!
 

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Posted by gercolla1 (Member # 3068) on :
 
if i was you il take the 7gs offered and run cuz my car was way cleaner than yours and had more parts and people where bitchn about 4500
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
What!?! That's crazy cheap!!! I would have bought it just to flip it. Selling cars is all about the right buyer at the right time...and it isn't for everybody.

[ July 06, 2010, 04:23 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by gercolla1 (Member # 3068) on :
 
no it didnt sell sum jerk hit my door n fucked the pillar up bad so im sellin all the parts on here
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Is that why you have all those parts for sale? Did you part it out? Somebody give me $7500 for this car before I pull an Albert and get my Sawzall out!!!

[ July 06, 2010, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Sorry...just saw your new post. That really sucks...I'm sorry for your misfortune. Were you insured at least?
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
And for what it's worth, I'm sure you'll make more money parting it out. I'm so sick in the head that I was thinking about buying your torque arm.

[ July 06, 2010, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by gercolla1 (Member # 3068) on :
 
liabilty ins and so far i been doin ok on the $$$ part next time im partin out all my cars fuck selln them outright and glws on urs i know that thing will get down with 90% of top end cars out there
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
lol wtf? someone offered you 4g's and wanted to make payments? hahahahahahhahahaha wow. Someone people are on one for sure.
 

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Posted by 2TONE (Member # 4216) on :
 
Not bad at all....u figure u get 10K and u still would be loosing on it
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
It's literally going to crush my soul to part this car out, but I think I can make another couple of thousand dollars over my asking price if I do it that way.

[ July 07, 2010, 01:55 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Ok, so my $7,000 offer looks like it fell through, but I have an offer on the bare shell of my car if I decide to part it out. Honestly, I will make more money parting the car out than selling it whole, but I really DON'T want to do that.

If somebody brings me $8,000 cash before the end of the day Sunday, the coupe is there's. On Monday morning I'm going to start pulling everything apart, and listing all of the parts for sale individually.

Feel free to look at the list of parts at the beginning of this post and PM me if you want dibs on anything. I just looked at the odometer from the SMOG when I bought this car back in 2006. I've only put 40 miles on this car the whole time I've owned it, so 90% of the parts on this car have less than 40 miles on them. That being said, the prices I will ask for the parts will be about 75% of the cheapest NEW prices you can find online.

Thanks!

[ July 07, 2010, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Man...I'm all tore up! Now I have somebody interested, but I just did a really conservative list of what parts I have and what they'd probably sell for, and I could get well over $9k if I part this thing out. Is anybody interested in anything, to help influence my decision?
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
I made a deal with a CAFords member for a cash sale today, but that member called me this afternoon and told me he wouldn't have the cash until Monday. I have had three people blowing up my phone to come get parts off this car since yesterday morning, and as soon as my sale fell through I started emailing them and telling them they could come get their parts.

The car is officially no longer for sale! I will be parting it out. Please look for a list of available parts and pricing in a new post tonight. Several items are already sold/spoken for, so if you want something PM me asap. I will have the car fully blown apart by the weeks end.

Thanks for all the kinda words and interest.

For what it's worth, I'm done with foxbody's but I have a Chevy and a Dodge that will soon be getting 5.0's and T5's so I will probably die a CAFords member!!!

[ July 08, 2010, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
so you accepted a 7k offer?
parting it out will get u m ore money of course but will take time and effort..however, it is nice to see a complete car go to a good owner and eventually be finished.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by venomous99:
so you accepted a 7k offer?
parting it out will get u m ore money of course but will take time and effort..however, it is nice to see a complete car go to a good owner and eventually be finished.

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You know, honestly...I don't really care what's nice, or what's gonna make somebody happy, or make everybody feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I have had more time wasted trying to sell my "finished" car for a fraction of it's worth than I care to publicly relive. You know the saying "money talks and bullshit walks"? Well so far not one person on this board has showed me ANY money, but the bullshit flows freely, as always. If I see some actual cash; well then who knows what might happen.

[ July 08, 2010, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
Yeah I know what u mean and see how u can be frustrated as with any major purchase ppl can be flakey. Good luck. As u know already many are dreamers and don't have the cash to fork over
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
CAR IS SOLD...THANKS FOR THE INTEREST!!!
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
MORE CA FORDS DRAMA!!!

Let me start off by saying that the following statements about LSwhat50, 1QUIK93, LSwhat50's mamma, and whoever the f$#k this other guy was are my opinions, and my opinions only.

Furthermore, a lot of you on this board know me, and know that I am a pretty fair guy, and not the type to misrepresent something that I am trying to sell.

Anyway, get out the soda (beer) and popcorn...


So, Thursday the 8th of July LSwhat50 was supposed to come buy my notch, but about an hour after he said he'd be on his way he calls to tell me he doesn't actually have the money. I tell him no problem...I'll just part the car out.

Later that day LSwhat50's cousin, 1QUIK93 starts PM'ing, telling me that I'm not a man of my word, because I told his cousin we had a deal (it was his cousin who didn't actually have the money), and I tell him that this bullsh!t is exactly why I decided to part the car in the first place, but after filling up my PM's, I reluctantly agree to let the kid by the car, so long as he can put the money together by Friday morning.

So I sold the car to LSwhat50 on Friday morning, and I guess he's been out having some fun in it since then, because evidently he broke it!

Early this morning (Monday the 12th of July) my phone gets blown up from some number I don't recognize:

"Hey bro im the one that bought the notch off you. Theres more problems then what you mentioned to us and we spent every last penny with the intention that"

"Theres nothing wrong with the car. The batteries completely dead wont even charge. and the brakes are completely shot. "

"Its up to you what you wanna do but i need the money back. I can return the car and you can part it out like you originally wanted. "

"I left the car at the gas station because it wouldnt start. I jumped it charged the battery. Everything u can name. So i just left it there. I can return your"

At this point I'm kinda trippin' out, cause the number I'm getting texted from isn't the number I've been talking to LSwhat50 from. Then I get a call from this number, and it's some lady (LSwhat50's mom), and she starts in on me about how I've taken advantage of her son by selling him a car that's not reliable. For the record, even as LSwhat50 was counting out his money for the car, I was telling him that this car has a lot of new parts, but that it was a "20 year old car", and "not a commuter". Evidently he was too excited to listen to my cautioning. Anyway, his mom starts in on me about how she legally has 72 hours to return a car for a full refund. WHAT!?! I tell her I'll call her back and hang up.

A minute later some other guy calls me, not LSwhat50, 1QUIK93, or the mom, and starts telling me how I screwed his little cousin over, and that they're bringing the car back up here and expect their money...all the while I haven't heard from LSwhat50, so I call his mom back. I ask her why I'm dealing with her and not LSwhat50 directly, and she tells me he's too ashamed to call me. She tells me how her son has a two hour commute and that this is his only vehicle, and how he only works part time, and can't afford the gas on a car like this.

I tell LSwhat50's mom that there's no way I'm going to refund them the full amount that they paid for the car, because I've already spent some of it. I explain how I had driven the car 36 miles since I put it together, and now her son's had it in his possession for a weekend, and that there's no telling what kind of damage he could have done in that time. I explain to her that I was very forthright with her son about how this is a HIGH PERFORMANCE car, and not a commuter. Then, with no way of knowing what LSwhat50 could have possibly f&*ked up on my notch, I offer to give them a partial refund, what I have left of the cash they purchased the car with...a little less than 3/4 of it. Well, LSwhat50's mom wants me to sign a contract, saying that as soon as I sell the car again I have to pay them the rest of the money...I told her that's not going to happen!

Anyway, the bottom line here...the reason that I am posting all of this up here, is so that when LSwhat50, or his cousin 1QUIK93 come back on here looking for another notch, SELLER BEWARE!!!

This is EXACTLY why I wanted to part the car out...I could tell that these people were going to be a pain in my ass from that first day when LSwhat50 called me to tell me he didn't "actually" have the money yet. But I went against my better judgment and sold him the car anyway, so I guess I get what I get.
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
total bs man..u have no obligation to accept the car back.

what part of "as is" does one not understand?

lol

something tells me dude had some fun w/ the car and did some stupid crap w/ it and is now having his mama and daddy or whoever else try to play intimidation to try to return a broken car.
 

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Posted by OH2QUIK (Member # 9989) on :
 
dam thats some shit bro and he is rite u dont have to return it its a as is sale and dude has to deal with it and i did see the car in union city driving fast and my boi saw it at the races on friday so idk bro dnt let that type of ppl get to u tell dem to F*** off period and move on!!!
 

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Posted by 94tealgt (Member # 10127) on :
 
That's some crazy shit right there Casey. You have no obligation to give them any money back. I wouldn't. That kid probably beat the shit out of it and now has no money to pay and fix what he broke. Screw those kids. If they don't want it anymore they need to part that thing out. Hopefully they put it in there name. Which I highly doubt considering they are kids and I notice a lot of people don't do it. As is means exactly what it says. As is.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
Another hour on the phone with the mom, and she said that I either need to pay the bill at the shop for them to fix the car, or give them back all of the money. I told her that somebody posted that they saw the car driving fast, and at the track, and she told me that when this goes to court I can bring "1000 things from the internet, and she will bring 1000 things too". Looks like I'm getting sued.
 

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Posted by 94tealgt (Member # 10127) on :
 
Are they retarded. You wrote as is on the bill of sale right? Let it go to court. Counter sue for your time and lost wages for having to miss work. Some people I swear.
 

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Posted by BIzKitBrAIn (Member # 4018) on :
 

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
Another hour on the phone with the mom, and she said that I either need to pay the bill at the shop for them to fix the car, or give them back all of the money. I told her that somebody posted that they saw the car driving fast, and at the track, and she told me that when this goes to court I can bring "1000 things from the internet, and she will bring 1000 things too". Looks like I'm getting sued.

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
You have nothing to worry about, don't get defensive. Used cars are sold as is, the judge will know the kid dove head first rather than having it looked at by a shop because of all the nice parts on it.

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Exactly the kid and his mommie don't have a leg to stand on.
 

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Posted by gercolla1 (Member # 3068) on :
 
did u state in the bill of sale as is no warranty cuz i always do and i sell cars titled in the bill of sale as off road use and or as parts car
 

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Posted by 92sleeperGT (Member # 8076) on :
 
This is all bullshit!
She can go ahead and bring 1000 things to court
Whatever that is?
As long as you have a bill of sale saying sold as is
You have nuthing to worry about.



 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
This sh!t just makes me so angry! I didn't want to sell the car to the kid...he literally BEGGED me to sell it to him. I told him I was just going to part it out, and he would NOT drop it.
 

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Posted by 87droptop50 (Member # 7185) on :
 
I've delt with casey90gt and he's a great guy on the other hand 1quick93 was just a lowballer.

Caseys description of the parts i was picking up were dead on. No B.S with this seller!
 

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Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
That's some fuckin bullshiiiiiiit!!!!! Tell them u will see then in court stop blowing your phone up.. I don't know the final price u sold this car to the kid at but I know this car is worth waaaay more then what u did sell it to him at.. I just bought s Gt that's pretty much the same setup as yours with jus a lil more parts and a built motor and anyone with common sense knows don't make that your fuckin daily driver until u get all the bugs out. U don't owe them shit, he fuckd it up his mommy needs to realize that shit. I'm sorry u even have to deal with this stress cause I been in the exact situation with someone I thought was my boy.. Try not to let is stress u out bro. And whatever u do don't take that shit back or pay em anything cause then u lose. U have this whole board here backing u on the right thing to do.
 

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Posted by 85notch5.0 (Member # 9804) on :
 
What a loser. How do you break something like that? Sorry you gotta deal with this.
 

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Posted by 1QUIK93 (Member # 9592) on :
 
Bro all I told you was you failed to tell us the starter is bad. He only bought the car because you said it didn't have any problems except for paint. You told us all the problems AFTER we found out for ourselves. All I was asking was for you to be honest and tell us EVERYTHING that was wrong with the car. Today when I called you then you told me Oh yeah the starter is the only thing that's not brand new and gets stuck sometimes or whatever you said. You can ask people on this board that I've dealed with i'm a stand up guy I just expected the same in return, It's all good you can say what you want I have nothing to do with this no more. And the brakes also have something wrong with them. You could of just told us what was wrong exactly from the getgo and not have to deal with this.
 

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Posted by LSwhat50 (Member # 10123) on :
 
Ok so I was trying to be a man about this and speak calmly with you, but since you want to bring my family in this and use foul language, lets all go back to your first post, WTF DOES IT SAY IS WRONG WITH THE CAR!?
PAINT, AND GAUGES
so after driving it for 2 F***** days and taking it to my mechanic, the gauges dont work, the moldings are falling off, the brakes were not installed correctly and are tugging the car and is fu**** the rotors up, the starter is messed up THE FUEL GAUGE DOESNT WORK AFTER YOU TOLD ME IT DID
great job jippping me out of 8k
the motor and suspension is flawless and im happy, but you failed to mention these problems to me
i asked you before you got paid, "in your professional opinion, do you think this is a good car for a daily driver and will last long"
what did you say mr casey
YES..
what did you tell my mom
"i told your son not to buy this car from me"
bs.. karmas a B****
 

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Posted by BIzKitBrAIn (Member # 4018) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1QUIK93:
Bro all I told you was you failed to tell us the starter is bad. He only bought the car because you said it didn't have any problems except for paint. You told us all the problems AFTER we found out for ourselves. All I was asking was for you to be honest and tell us EVERYTHING that was wrong with the car. Today when I called you then you told me Oh yeah the starter is the only thing that's not brand new and gets stuck sometimes or whatever you said. You can ask people on this board that I've dealed with i'm a stand up guy I just expected the same in return, It's all good you can say what you want I have nothing to do with this no more. And the brakes also have something wrong with them. You could of just told us what was wrong exactly from the getgo and not have to deal with this.

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Originally posted by LSwhat50:
Ok so I was trying to be a man about this and speak calmly with you, but since you want to bring my family in this and use foul language, lets all go back to your first post, WTF DOES IT SAY IS WRONG WITH THE CAR!?
PAINT, AND GAUGES
so after driving it for 2 F***** days and taking it to my mechanic, the gauges dont work, the moldings are falling off, the brakes were not installed correctly and are tugging the car and is fu**** the rotors up, the starter is messed up THE FUEL GAUGE DOESNT WORK AFTER YOU TOLD ME IT DID
great job jippping me out of 8k
the motor and suspension is flawless and im happy, but you failed to mention these problems to me
i asked you before you got paid, "in your professional opinion, do you think this is a good car for a daily driver and will last long"
what did you say mr casey
YES..
what did you tell my mom
"i told your son not to buy this car from me"
bs.. karmas a B****

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Originally posted by LSwhat50:
Ok so I was trying to be a man about this and speak calmly with you, but since you want to bring my family in this and use foul language, lets all go back to your first post, WTF DOES IT SAY IS WRONG WITH THE CAR!?
PAINT, AND GAUGES
so after driving it for 2 F***** days and taking it to my mechanic, the gauges dont work, the moldings are falling off, the brakes were not installed correctly and are tugging the car and is fu**** the rotors up, the starter is messed up THE FUEL GAUGE DOESNT WORK AFTER YOU TOLD ME IT DID
great job jippping me out of 8k
the motor and suspension is flawless and im happy, but you failed to mention these problems to me
i asked you before you got paid, "in your professional opinion, do you think this is a good car for a daily driver and will last long"
what did you say mr casey
YES..
what did you tell my mom
"i told your son not to buy this car from me"
bs.. karmas a B****

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Originally posted by gercolla1:
did u state in the bill of sale as is no warranty cuz i always do and i sell cars titled in the bill of sale as off road use and or as parts car

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
All the toys inside were brand new! Even the starter, which wasn't new new, was pretty damn new, but it was just a cheap Kragen starter anyways, so who knows.

Just an update, it looks like I'll be buying the car back, and if/when I do that I will have all of the parts available here for sale individually.

I have a theory on why the brakes are "hanging up", and I will post more on that later, but they should be fine, and if not I'll get them resurfaced and buy new pads before listing them for sale.

Everything else on the car, with the exception of the starter and/or battery should be fine, and I will let you know when things start coming apart.

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Much respect for this
 

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Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on :
 
if i were you casey, i wouldn't do a damn thing but tell them to suck it easy. let them take you to court, they will just end up having to pay for a bunch of bs court fees, and hopefully some more mechanic bills .
 

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Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
the brakes dragging is probably just the pushrod on the booster being adjusted out a little too far.

don't sell weekend/toy cars to kids...
 

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Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :
 
Tough luck kiddo. You should've had the car looked at by a professional before you bought it. You got all worked up about some notchback with a few decent parts on it, let the emotions take over and overlooked some details. You work part time and you're buying a car like this? Not smart. You trusted a stranger when he tells you everything works. Also not smart. A wise man once said "trust but verify." $7900! That's hilarious. As soon as someone says "I put $$ into this car, it's worth this $$" Run for the hills.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by Blind:
the brakes dragging is probably just the pushrod on the booster being adjusted out a little too far.

don't sell weekend/toy cars to kids...

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That's sort of along the lines of what I was thinking. Having only put 36 miles on the car in the time I owned it I'm not totally surprised that there are some bugs to work out, but I was of the impression that the car didn't have any mechanical problems because it was performing flawlessly for me.
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

[ July 12, 2010, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: cobraracer46 ]
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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Idiot
 

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Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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I'd buy 2 or 3 cars like this one for $2500 tomorrow.
 

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Posted by 94 N.C.F. GT (Member # 3946) on :
 
alot of shit starts brakeing and getting loose and fucking up once you start racing your car kid. next time on a side note brake the car in first get to no it for a few days before takeing it to the races. he says he has no money to fix the car what if they woulda put a thirty day hold on it if he woulda got caught street racing.
 

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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 

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Originally posted by Blind:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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I'd buy 2 or 3 cars like this one for $2500 tomorrow.

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Exactly... Jan youre an idiot for that post and for once I dont agree.
That car is very clean, and no offense Casey, you shoulda known better to deal with such a new member with such a low post count.

And to the cry baby.... you didnt know your cousins and your mommy were calling him until you saw this post??? Ya bullshit.
*edit* your profile says your occupation is "auto tech" so you cant fix a simple issue like a starter? Oh or notice any problems while inspecting it yourself?!?!?

[ July 12, 2010, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: bottled95GT?? ]
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
This post is seriously still going?


Classic "buyers remorse". Got home, caught flack from the 'rents that it was ugly and a POS due to the cosmetic appearance, and now wants out of it, due to what he spent.

Suck it up kid, deal with it.
 

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Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:
This post is seriously still going?


Classic "buyers remorse". Got home, caught flack from the 'rents that it was ugly and a POS due to the cosmetic appearance, and now wants out of it, due to what he spent.

Suck it up kid, deal with it.

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:

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Originally posted by Blind:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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I'd buy 2 or 3 cars like this one for $2500 tomorrow.

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Exactly... Jan youre an idiot for that post and for once I dont agree.
That car is very clean, and no offense Casey, you shoulda known better to deal with such a new member with such a low post count.

And to the cry baby.... you didnt know your cousins and your mommy were calling him until you saw this post??? Ya bullshit.
*edit* your profile says your occupation is "auto tech" so you cant fix a simple issue like a starter? Oh or notice any problems while inspecting it yourself?!?!?

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Originally posted by SF Coupe:

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:

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Originally posted by Blind:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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I'd buy 2 or 3 cars like this one for $2500 tomorrow.

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Exactly... Jan youre an idiot for that post and for once I dont agree.
That car is very clean, and no offense Casey, you shoulda known better to deal with such a new member with such a low post count.

And to the cry baby.... you didnt know your cousins and your mommy were calling him until you saw this post??? Ya bullshit.
*edit* your profile says your occupation is "auto tech" so you cant fix a simple issue like a starter? Oh or notice any problems while inspecting it yourself?!?!?

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Cobra racer is right, maybe not $2500, but $7900 was a ripoff for the poor kid. I bought a car that was nearly immaculate and had more power and the entire MM catalog on it for $10.5K back when the economy was still good.

This car has couple decent parts. It still has the four link in the back so it's still going to handle like shit when pushed really hard. I'm not talking about cruising around in a canyon but actually pushing it to the limit of adhesion at a track which is one of the selling points the seller used. It still has the over weight k-member with the stock crapola front geometry along with an iron headed motor sitting on top of it. I hope the kid has a good dentist or kidney specialist because 500lbs/375lbs coil over springs for a car that sees any street use is ridiculous. The brakes are overkill (cobra PBRs are more than enough brake for 99.9% of people on this board) and don't even work properly. This is perhaps the single most important safety feature on the car and they don't work properly! To me "clean" is a description of the whole car. This, my fellow enthusiast, is not a clean car.

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Originally posted by phil a:

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Originally posted by SF Coupe:

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:

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Originally posted by Blind:

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
Incredible. On a good day, that abused coupe might be worth $2500. It is Amazing that some one paid $7900 for a rough 88 LX coupe with cast Iron cylinder heads, No tourque arm, no tubular K member,a fucked up fuel gauge, dragging brakes,a fucked up body and cheap chinese wheels.

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I'd buy 2 or 3 cars like this one for $2500 tomorrow.

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Exactly... Jan youre an idiot for that post and for once I dont agree.
That car is very clean, and no offense Casey, you shoulda known better to deal with such a new member with such a low post count.

And to the cry baby.... you didnt know your cousins and your mommy were calling him until you saw this post??? Ya bullshit.
*edit* your profile says your occupation is "auto tech" so you cant fix a simple issue like a starter? Oh or notice any problems while inspecting it yourself?!?!?

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Cobra racer is right, maybe not $2500, but $7900 was a ripoff for the poor kid. I bought a car that was nearly immaculate and had more power and the entire MM catalog on it for $10.5K back when the economy was still good.

This car has couple decent parts. It still has the four link in the back so it's still going to handle like shit when pushed really hard. I'm not talking about cruising around in a canyon but actually pushing it to the limit of adhesion at a track which is one of the selling points the seller used. It still has the over weight k-member with the stock crapola front geometry along with an iron headed motor sitting on top of it. I hope the kid has a good dentist or kidney specialist because 500lbs/375lbs coil over springs for a car that sees any street use is ridiculous. The brakes are overkill (cobra PBRs are more than enough brake for 99.9% of people on this board) and don't even work properly. This is perhaps the single most important safety feature on the car and they don't work properly! To me "clean" is a description of the whole car. This, my fellow enthusiast, is not a clean car.

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I see your line of thinking, and do tend to agree. However, the value of an item is determined by the amount someone is willing to pay for it. Were someone to have offered $8500, well, that's what the coupe would have been worth, like it or not.

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I don't like it, people should do more research and think things through before buying. But, it is true
 

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Posted by 94 N.C.F. GT (Member # 3946) on :
 

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
I just got the car back, and in the kids defense the brakes were sticking pretty bad. I'm not sure what changed between now and the day I sold it...maybe a combination of the brake rod adjusted out a hair too far and the brakes not being broken in yet, but they're definitely sticking now. It just bums me out it got driven so much with sticking brakes cause now I'm gonna have to buy pads and rotors before I can sell the parts.

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so what was the deal that went threw this time
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
I don't care what you say about my car...I didn't think it was particularly "clean", but it was a beast to drive and had a wicked stance.

And my car was easily worth $8k...do you want to know why? Because anybody could have purchased it, and spent an 8-hour day in their garage blowing the car apart, and sold the parts for about $10k. Any car that has the potential to turn you a $2k profit if purchased and parted out is, at least in my opinion, "worth it".
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by 94 N.C.F. GT:
so what was the deal that went threw this time

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I bought the car back from the guy for $6500. I felt bad for the kid. I would have probably even given him more if I'd had it, but I had to pay rent.

But sadly, the brakes on the car are toast, cause the kid didn't stop driving when he felt them dragging. I will need to buy new pads and rotors to be able to sell the brakes.

[ July 12, 2010, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by cobraracer46 (Member # 1142) on :
 
For comparison, a $10,500 Saleen fox on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-Saleen-Ford-Mustang-Saleen-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255bcaa13eQQitemZ160453796158QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_912wt_1167
 

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Posted by 94 N.C.F. GT (Member # 3946) on :
 

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:

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Originally posted by 94 N.C.F. GT:
so what was the deal that went threw this time

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I bought the car back from the guy for $6500. I felt bad for the kid. I would have probably even given him more if I'd had it, but I had to pay rent.

But sadly, the brakes on the car are toast, cause the kid didn't stop driving when he felt them dragging. I will need to buy new pads and rotors to be able to sell the brakes.

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
Yeah, but I got almost $2,000 worth of brakes down the drain too. The situation sucked for everybody I think.

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Originally posted by 94 N.C.F. GT:

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:
Yeah, but I got almost $2,000 worth of brakes down the drain too. The situation sucked for everybody I think.

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that really sucks they cant be resurfaced huh?

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Originally posted by cobraracer46:
For comparison, a $10,500 Saleen fox on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-Saleen-Ford-Mustang-Saleen-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem255bcaa13eQQitemZ160453796158QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks#ht_912wt_1167

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with shitty brakes, conventional shitty springs and shocks, shitty control arms, no ta/phb, stock k-member, stock motor, and from the east coast so it's probably a bucket under the shiny paint.

[ July 13, 2010, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Blind ]
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
I can't believe what I am reading here.

When you buy a used car, you have to assess the condition for yourself. If you are not in the position to do that, most mechanics will do it for you for under $100 (money well spent).

Personally, if it were me, I would tell the buyer to pound sand and get lost. Holding a car for several days and then expecting to get a refund is outrageous.

However, by taking the car back, it almost appears like a guilty admission of misrepresentation of the condition of the car.

Complete mess. I hope both sides learned a lesson here.

Best of luck

[ July 13, 2010, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 

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Posted by SLPR93 (Member # 8769) on :
 
seller should pay for repair .it part of being a man of your word .
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 
You know...I bought the brake kit from Baer, and it supposedly came complete, ready to install. Even though I've done tons of brake jobs, I still looked over the instructions, did the install, and everything seemed fine. I drove the car myself, and I drove the car with the new buyer, and the brakes performed flawlessly every time. I don't know why they started to drag...it seems like it came out of nowhere, because the brakes did not drag when I drove the car. But, feeling bad for the kid...not guilty, but just bad, because I'm young enough to remember being young and impulsive, I offered to buy the car back for a fair price, especially considering that a $2000 brake kit was trashed while the car was in his possession.

I guess there are some tough critics on this site. But I think I was more than fair.

[ July 13, 2010, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: Casey90GT ]
 

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Posted by Ham'n Eggs (Member # 8967) on :
 
Cobraracer46, sounds like your prostate is flaring up again

[ July 13, 2010, 02:53 AM: Message edited by: Ham'n Eggs ]
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
However, by taking the car back, it almost appears like a guilty admission of misrepresentation of the condition of the car.

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
However, by taking the car back, it almost appears like a guilty admission of misrepresentation of the condition of the car.

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WOW!!! I take the car back from this kid so that NOBODY on this site can possibly say I'm not a stand up guy, but then somebody does, if not for any other reason than the fact that I offered to take the car back. I guess you can't
make everybody happy.

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Originally posted by SLPR93:
seller should pay for repair .it part of being a man of your word .

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Originally posted by svfreerider87:

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Originally posted by SLPR93:
seller should pay for repair .it part of being a man of your word .

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the man sold a car as is and made it pretty fucking right, i know if I were the seller I woulda told all of you to Fuck off from the get. Be happy you shmucks got anything back.

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Originally posted by 2slow2go:
id just have sex with his mom and call it even

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Originally posted by Casey90GT:

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
However, by taking the car back, it almost appears like a guilty admission of misrepresentation of the condition of the car.

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WOW!!! I take the car back from this kid so that NOBODY on this site can possibly say I'm not a stand up guy, but then somebody does, if not for any other reason than the fact that I offered to take the car back. I guess you can't
make everybody happy.

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Or you are just a very nice guys, far nicer than anyone I have encountered in the automobile business, lol.
 

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Posted by Casey90GT (Member # 6175) on :
 

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
[QUOTE]Or you are just a very nice guys, far nicer than anyone I have encountered in the automobile business, lol.

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