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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

If u have these tires I advise u to upgrade ur stock axles if u haven't done so already or this WILL happen to u [Eek!]

Damn sticky ass tires

[ April 20, 2010, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: SPTVENM ]

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

YES!! I know that made you feel bad ass.. Haha

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

What 60fts were you cutting before that happened?

I've done 1.69s with no problems, but they are certainly a time bomb.

I've actually read that stock axles have been know to twist up to 360degrees before giving up the ghost.

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

holly shit the peice that was left in the rear end is all twisted up. before the tires the car was pulling a super quick 2.1 60's lol.... sorry willie had to do it. from 2.1's to 1.8's not bad at all. im sure 1.7's can be cut with out a problem on his current suspension set up. maybe some high 1.6's

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Given that it traps 108mph with 315rw, I am guessing it's a heavy car (which is especially hard on axles).

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

So its the weight that kills my mph?
Was wondering y 50deep, mikeD, and epik have a couple more mph on me when mine makes more power

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

you got the pig of the 5.0's [Big Grin]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SPTVENM:
So its the weight that kills my mph?
Was wondering y 50deep, mikeD, and epik have a couple more mph on me when mine makes more power

Well, I would certainly weigh your car and see what it comes in at. If your weights are similar, then you know what the problem is [Razz]

If your car is 300-400lbs heavier than theirs, then it would make sense. However, I can't see your car being that heavy. With 108mph, you should be running mid 12's on slicks.

[ April 20, 2010, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]

Posted by streakmatt (Member # 6257) on :

Damn you snapped that bad boy right off. Crazy cause I ran 10.60'S with 1.49-1.55 60's all day, probably over 100 passes like that. My cousin is STILL on the stock axles and rebuilt carrier. He went 10.2 with full slicks. 1.49 60! [Eek!]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Drag radials can be particular tough on axles due to the soft/sticky tire surface but stiff sidewall...

Give me a 26x8.5 slick all day

[ April 20, 2010, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]

Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :

Looks like something the Brain would have done haha. Time for some 300m axles.
Oh..and be glad your not running a spool.

[ April 20, 2010, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]

Posted by WickedStang (Member # 7692) on :

WOW sucks to see this happened! What were u guys leaving off the line? (Iam assuming the clutch was being dumped not SLIPED) lol

Posted by street_illegal_stang (Member # 1554) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Drag radials can be particular tough on axles due to the soft/sticky tire surface but stiff sidewall...

Give me a 26x8.5 slick all day

you may have somthing there...

I mean I used to run 26x10.5 et streets and leave with 1.55 60ft times all day.
Then I changed to m/t drag radials, not more than 4 runs (1.7-60ft) then broke a stock axle just like in the pictures.

Was a bitch to remove the knub broken in the diff

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!

Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie Man where are you shifting at? i feel like with your custom cam and more power your car should pick up in your RPM band. im not that familiar with the track but all of our cars that ran were full weight. If there is a 3-400 p0und difference im not sure it would equate to the 3-4mph differences our cars have. Then again maybe it does. Unless my numbers are low, you have a solid 10whp and 15ft/lbs of torque over me so i would assume that would help with your added weight.

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie If there is a 3-400 p0und difference im not sure it would equate to the 3-4mph differences our cars have.

Pretty spot on actually.

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie If there is a 3-400 p0und difference im not sure it would equate to the 3-4mph differences our cars have.
Pretty spot on actually.

I had a convo with pure stang at the track and he was telling me how willies car picked up 10whp and gained 1.5-2 mph on his trap speed. Which would lead me to believe that every 80-100 or so pounds means a mile an hour lost on the track for willies car

Luke with what your saying it would mean that if i dropped 300lbs from my car that im going to be able to trap 113-114 mph? I dont see it happeneing without an increase in power to back it up. If it does though them im taking all kind of shit out my car on the next run. i never really knew the importance of weight reduction outside of getting out the hole faster

[ April 20, 2010, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: 50 Deep ]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Your car probably weighs around 3250lbs. If you drop to 2850-2950, 114mph would be very reasonable.

It's just a general rule with lots of error, but for our street cars it is pretty spot on.

These rules only apply to consistent racers. Back when I had my fox, I would lanch at 6250 and powershift every gear. I'd go through 6-7 passes in a row that were all within 0.1 of eachother. When your times are that consistent, it is very easy to conclude if a change is helping or hurting.

But if your times are inconsistent, it makes it more difficult to conclude how much mph a particular gain in hp is responsible for.

It's a crude general rule, but many racers have been using it for a long time (applies to street cars)

~10hp = ~0.1s = ~100lbs

Disclaimer: To be used as a rough guideline only

[ April 20, 2010, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

Luke man can you bring your car to the track one of these days man. Seem like you know a lot but i have never seen you in action.

plus i think your lying about launching at 6250. i wanna see you do it.... In Willies car [Big Grin]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Luke man can you bring your car to the track one of these days man. Seem like you know a lot but i have never seen you in action.

plus i think your lying about launching at 6250. i wanna see you do it.... In Willies car

I am rusty as all hell and have not been to the strip since 2007, so I probably got nothing to show these days without some seat time. But back when I raced regularly, ya, I took it seriously. You don't run 13.0 in a stock motored full weight fox unless you are prepared to break things...

And regarding 6250 launches, that is 100% fact. I was letting it go as high as I could to get the 1.69 60fts with the stock motor @ full weight + my 200lbs ass.

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

Shit I used to launch at 5500 rpm with the ET Street MT slicks on a stock bottom end

[ April 21, 2010, 12:56 AM: Message edited by: 50Reasons ]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
Shit I used to launch at 5500 rpm with the ET Street MT slicks on a stock bottom end

See Kanye, everyone is doing it lol

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

Nah man I don't have the cajones. Ima just continue to launch off idle and make sammiches inbetween shifts like I been doin [Razz]

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Nah man I don't have the cajones. Ima just continue to launch off idle and make sammiches inbetween shifts like I been doin

+1.. haha

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WickedStang:
WOW sucks to see this happened! What were u guys leaving off the line? (Iam assuming the clutch was being dumped not SLIPED) lol

4-4500k

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by street_illegal_stang:

quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Drag radials can be particular tough on axles due to the soft/sticky tire surface but stiff sidewall...

Give me a 26x8.5 slick all day
Was a bitch to remove the knub broken in the diff

fuuuuuuck ya [Embarrassed]

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie Man where are you shifting at? i feel like with your custom cam and more power your car should pick up in your RPM band. im not that familiar with the track but all of our cars that ran were full weight. If there is a 3-400 p0und difference im not sure it would equate to the 3-4mph differences our cars have. Then again maybe it does. Unless my numbers are low, you have a solid 10whp and 15ft/lbs of torque over me so i would assume that would help with your added weight.

Moses was in it so i dont know what he shifted at

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

plus i think your lying about launching at 6250. i wanna see you do it.... In Willies car

when i get some real axles.....then sure [Big Grin]

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SPTVENM:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie Man where are you shifting at?
Moses was in it so i dont know what he shifted at

Should of let Jesus drive [Wink]

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by SPTVENM:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie Man where are you shifting at?
Moses was in it so i dont know what he shifted at
Should of let Jesus drive

lol

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SPTVENM:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by SPTVENM:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
If you snapped your axles with only 315rwhp you had some weak as axles lol!
Why you gotta be so mean foo? hahah

Willie Man where are you shifting at?
Moses was in it so i dont know what he shifted at
Should of let Jesus drive
lol

hahaahah. jesus would make it float across the finish line.... I was shifting the car at around 6. I mostly feel and hear the car. It was my fist and only run on willies car with the dr's. Im 100% sure 12's in that car is not a problem what so ever. no power shifting still chirped 1st thru 4th [Big Grin]

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