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Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
I had the Smog done on my 95331StrimeVert. I’m very impressed with the smog numbers. This motor is currently running 16 degrees advance and making 470RWHP and 455RWTQ on a Mustang Dyno. I built this setup: Dart 331, 8.3:1 compression Diamond Pistons, Forged Eagle crank and H-Beam rods, 60lbs Injectors, TFS Heads, F303 cam retarded 4 degrees, Gt-40 upper and non-ported lower on 10lbs of S-Trim boost. All the smog stuff is there and I’m running the 4 Cat Magnaflow Tru-X pipe setup. All good.

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Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
beautiful car! one less headache to deal with which is always a plus.

btw, which smog shop did you go to?

[ February 15, 2010, 02:00 AM: Message edited by: stangin' ]
 
Posted by JOEFOX87 (Member # 8331) on :
 
Wait, so that means I could run a F303 cam in my fox? I always wanted to run a meaner cam than the E303 I have. Would that be legal to run? [Confused]
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
* I went to a random test only station in Walnut Creek.
* Yes, the F303 smogs no problem.
Thanks for the comments.
 
Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JOEFOX87:
Wait, so that means I could run a F303 cam in my fox? I always wanted to run a meaner cam than the E303 I have. Would that be legal to run? [Confused]
I've been running and smogging the F cam in my 351 for 10+ years. The idle test had always been iffy, but ever since they got rid of the idle test and went to the rollers only, I've never even had to worry about it. In fact, if I ever do a rebuild, I'll be going with an even beefier cam
 
Posted by stage2,650 (Member # 9394) on :
 
Nice!
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
Yep, I agree. I will go bigger next time for sure. I think I left a lot of HP and TQ on the table going with the F303. As for Idle, this think idles smoother then my old e303.

http://95331strimvert.blogspot.com/2010/02/video.html

[ February 17, 2010, 01:15 AM: Message edited by: 95331StrimVert ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
my 331 SQ trim passed smog with ease also XE274HR cam. I think I forgot and told them it had a E-cam....ooops
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
Where did you grab those catts from? And do you have long tubes?
 
Posted by username1822 (Member # 8583) on :
 
You are lucky they did not check timing like they are supposed to, otherwise you would have failed.
 
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
You are lucky they did not check timing like they are supposed to, otherwise you would have failed.
Yeah I believe your only allowed 2 degree's either way. Thats the sign of a well built, well tuned car! Its good to see a thread about a car passing, congrat's man!
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MikeD.:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
You are lucky they did not check timing like they are supposed to, otherwise you would have failed.
Yeah I believe your only allowed 2 degree's either way. Thats the sign of a well built, well tuned car! Its good to see a thread about a car passing, congrat's man!
but if i am read the right he didn't say total advanced is 16 degrees so if base 10 its -
+2 degrees
 
Posted by CobraCoupe (Member # 7233) on :
 
Timing is allowed to be -3 or +3 of base timing unless manufacturer specs say diff. I.e. Some Hondas say -2 or +2
 
Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 
Congratulations! Now fix the lawn and put the hose away... [Razz]
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Timing is allowed to be -3 or +3 of base timing unless manufacturer specs say diff. I.e. Some Hondas say -2 or +2
last time i check for smog bar says -2+2 of base timing
 
Posted by username1822 (Member # 8583) on :
 
On the mustang, its + or - 3 degrees.

I guess I read wrong. I thought he was trying to say 16 degrees base timing (which wouldn't make sense now that I think about it), not 16 total advance. Oops.

[ February 15, 2010, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: username1822 ]
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
On the mustang, its + or - 3 degrees.

I guess I read wrong. I thought he was trying to say 16 degrees base timing (which wouldn't make sense now that I think about it), not 16 total advance. Oops.
were you getting this info at
 
Posted by CobraCoupe (Member # 7233) on :
 
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
 
Posted by Slowback (Member # 6348) on :
 
I hope the vette gets parked outside more then the stang [Smile]
nice car and good numbers.
 
Posted by username1822 (Member # 8583) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
On the mustang, its + or - 3 degrees.

I guess I read wrong. I thought he was trying to say 16 degrees base timing (which wouldn't make sense now that I think about it), not 16 total advance. Oops.
were you getting this info at
I'm getting it from a guy that makes a living as a smog tech.
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
On the mustang, its + or - 3 degrees.

I guess I read wrong. I thought he was trying to say 16 degrees base timing (which wouldn't make sense now that I think about it), not 16 total advance. Oops.
were you getting this info at
I'm getting it from a guy that makes a living as a smog tech.
guess what i have a smog lic too an the last that i heard it was -2+2 degress an the was a question on the smog test when i took it
 
Posted by username1822 (Member # 8583) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/Smog%20Check%20Manual%20w-diesel%208-09%20V3.pdf

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Looks like you need a refresher.

[ February 15, 2010, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: username1822 ]
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/Smog%20Check%20Manual%20w-diesel%208-09%20V3.pdf

Page 26.

Looks like you need a refresher.
thank you i guess i was wrong an the rule change evey year
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by season'd 88:
Congratulations! Now fix the lawn and put the hose away... [Razz]
lol kids these days....I tell my son that constantly.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/Smog%20Check%20Manual%20w-diesel%208-09%20V3.pdf

Page 26.

Looks like you need a refresher.
thank you i guess i was wrong an the rule change evey year
It has been + - 3 for years this is not something new. Back in the dark ages when I was first doing smogs( I was liscensed for 15 years) it was retarded as much as you wanted. You should have seen some of the stuff I could get to pass lol. Of course you couldnt drive them off the lot.
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/Smog%20Check%20Manual%20w-diesel%208-09%20V3.pdf

Page 26.

Looks like you need a refresher.
thank you i guess i was wrong an the rule change evey year
It has been + - 3 for years this is not something new. Back in the dark ages when I was first doing smogs( I was liscensed for 15 years) it was retarded as much as you wanted. You should have seen some of the stuff I could get to pass lol. Of course you couldnt drive them off the lot.
been 11 years for me an yes i have done crazy shit to make pass to an i remember back in the day you just had to reduce emission to make pass pull a plug wire test it it fails reinstall plug wire it passes
 
Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by username1822:
quote:
Originally posted by fasthatch:
quote:
Originally posted by CobraCoupe:
Nope, smog check inspection manual for BAR says -3/+3 as a standard unless manufacturer says otherwise
show proof
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/Smog%20Check%20Manual%20w-diesel%208-09%20V3.pdf

Page 26.

Looks like you need a refresher.
thank you i guess i was wrong an the rule change evey year
It has been + - 3 for years this is not something new. Back in the dark ages when I was first doing smogs( I was liscensed for 15 years) it was retarded as much as you wanted. You should have seen some of the stuff I could get to pass lol. Of course you couldnt drive them off the lot.
been 11 years for me an yes i have done crazy shit to make pass to an i remember back in the day you just had to reduce emission to make pass pull a plug wire test it it fails reinstall plug wire it passes
hey dave hit me up, my boy needs some work on his cobra
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
Hello Stangers, Thanks for the words. Yes, I'm at 10 degrees base timing. My lawn isn't in the best shape. I sold the 71 vette:-( It's was too nice to keep. I was allways worried someone would door ding it.
 
Posted by Zeke (Member # 9432) on :
 
Nice numbers... BTW very nice ride as well.
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
Thanks
 
Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95331StrimVert:
Hello Stangers, Thanks for the words. Yes, I'm at 10 degrees base timing. My lawn isn't in the best shape. I sold the 71 vette:-( It's was too nice to keep. I was allways worried someone would door ding it.
A little aeration..seeds..perhaps some lawn green stuff and you should be good to go. The most important thing is to water that lawn consistently and often (trust me I have like three full sized lawns at my house and I thought "rain" would take care of it this time of year....NOT [Mad] Don't let it go too long or it is going to be hard to recover (might have to cut out that side section and put new sod in if you let it go any longer). Nice numbers on the smog. Now if I could only get my car to smog liker yours [Smile]
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
This crack me up:-) My lawn is the issue here. lol. Thanks for the advise though. good luck on your smog, i bet the 4-cat setup will treat you well.
 
Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95331StrimVert:
This crack me up:-) My lawn is the issue here. lol. Thanks for the advise though. good luck on your smog, i bet the 4-cat setup will treat you well.
The reason is that your car look sooo good in the picture....then we see the lawn..just kidding [Razz] I will try to do a picture write up of the pipes I got from Magnaflow. Hopefully it will clear the MM rear suspension pieces (crossing fingers).
 
Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :
 
Hey Cobra Man,

Please be careful to closely inspect the inside of the pipes and welds. All for cats looking like this:
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