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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
It’s off — at least for now.

The megafight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr., will not take place on March 13 as tentatively scheduled after Mayweather refused to accept a compromise agreement struck during Tuesday’s marathon negotiating session with a mediator.





Top Rank chairman Bob Arum said he is still under a gag order from mediator and retired judge Daniel Weinstein not to discuss the situation. However, Arum plans to announce on Thursday plans for a March fight in Las Vegas between Pacquiao and WBA junior middleweight champion Yuri Foreman.

When asked if the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is indeed off, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer said: ‘‘I’m not going to confirm or deny anything. At this point, we have no comment.’’

The two sides met with Weinstein for nine hours Tuesday, but did not meet with Weinstein Wednesday.

Instead, the two fighters were given the revised proposal, the contents of which remain unknown. Pacquiao reportedly agreed to the deal while Mayweather apparently did not.

At that point, Arum moved on.

If Pacquiao fights Foreman, he would be going for an unprecedented eighth title in eight different weight classes. Pacquiao fought at 147 pounds, the heaviest of his career, when he stopped Miguel Cotto on Nov. 14 in his most recent fight.

The loss of the March 13 date does not necessarily mean the fight is dead forever. Pacquiao and Mayweather could face each other in the fall, perhaps in September. In the meantime, Mayweather could get another tuneup for an eventual meeting with Pacquiao. It has been rumored Mayweather might keep the March 13 date at the MGM and fight Paulie Malignaggi.

But Schaefer would not comment about that possibility either.

Attempts to reach Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather’s co-manager, were unsuccessful Wednesday.

One possible reason the fight was scuttled was Pacquiao’s pending lawsuit against Mayweather. Last week, Pacquiao filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Las Vegas for defamation against Mayweather, his father, Floyd Sr., his uncle, Roger Mayweather, Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya and Schaefer. According to Arum, Pacquio’s suit remains intact.
 
Posted by galaxy5.0coupe (Member # 9463) on :
 
yep arum just said its off . pac man scared floyd would have whoop that ass up and down the ring
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
if this fight does not happend, then they are both on my shit list...i will not watch either ons fights...
 
Posted by galaxy5.0coupe (Member # 9463) on :
 
sounds like its off for sure its manny fault floyd dropped the blood testing issue, but pac man kept crying got paranoid wanted a way out so he sued everyone, so now everyone gonna think he is on something. all well i could of made some good money in vegas with this fight
 
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
pacman is on roids! enough said
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
^ yup
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
PACMAN IS A BITCH, I WILL NOT WATCH ANY OF HIS FIGHTS AND HOPEFULLY HE GETS ASSASSINATED DURING ELECTION TIME.IF I EVER SEE HIM IN PERSON IM GOING TO SPIT ON HIM CAUSE HES A SCARED PIECE OF SHIT.HOPEFULLY HIS NATION DOESNT BACK UP THIS BITCH.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I didnt read the articles or anything, but why is everyone hating on PacMan when Mayweather was the one who wouldn't agree upon the last negotiations [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
 
Posted by macthizzle (Member # 3492) on :
 
ITS OLYMPIC STYLE TESTING,WHATS SO WRONG ABOUT THAT IF MAYWEATHER WAS GOING TO DO THE TESTING ALSO.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I didnt read the articles or anything, but why is everyone hating on PacMan when Mayweather was the one who wouldn't agree upon the last negotiations [Roll Eyes]
Mayweather agreed to Manny's ridiculous 10 mill per pound request. After it was admitted they didnt think he would. Mayweathers blood test and process request wasnt half as retarded. And it was not something new. Not only did Manny take a blood test before the Hatton fight. Several other fighters have accused Manny of using PED's in the past. Its a shame that a drug test process stopped this mega fight. Now Manny is gonna grab a stupid belt from a unknown guy. When there are better folks in that division with the real belts he could go after. Each of them wanting to fight him. And the better of the 2 willing to meet all of Manny's terms. Manny is a fag and a dumb fag at that.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
Mr. Boxing (N8)...maybe you can answer me. Why is it that everyone wants to hate on Pacman when Mayweather's pussy ass camp is the one who wouldn't agree on the last negotion after 10 hours of BS'ing back and forth?

Like I said, I dont read articles or dont follow along with whether the fight is on/off, but from what I did read off google, Pacman is willing to do the blood tests.

in my opinion, this is coming down to "who calls teh shots". I really dont think either one is on roids, PED's, etc...but its all a mind game. And honestly, GAYweather is SCARED!
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
Mr. Boxing (N8)...maybe you can answer me. Why is it that everyone wants to hate on Pacman when Mayweather's pussy ass camp is the one who wouldn't agree on the last negotion after 10 hours of BS'ing back and forth?

Like I said, I dont read articles or dont follow along with whether the fight is on/off, but from what I did read off google, Pacman is willing to do the blood tests.

in my opinion, this is coming down to "who calls teh shots". I really dont think either one is on roids, PED's, etc...but its all a mind game. And honestly, GAYweather is SCARED!
Well I am guessing they wanted to alter the drug testing procedure and they wouldnt budge. Manny lied about the needles, forgot about the Hatton drug test, and everyone in his camp said it would be no problem. But when it came to manny and his nutritionist it was a problem. I am glad Mayweather stood his ground on the testing. It needs to be implemented in boxing anyway. Why not have the 2 marquee names promote the promise of fair competition? What makes it even more fishy is that Manny is now going after Yuri whom Arum promotes. Which pretty much guarantees there will be no mention of a drug test. Rather than go after the real belt holders whom also may require a drug test of Manny.

If you take a step back and remove yourself as a fan of Manny and just look at it from a boxing standpoint. You will see that Manny is full of shit.
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
Mr. Boxing (N8)...maybe you can answer me. Why is it that everyone wants to hate on Pacman when Mayweather's pussy ass camp is the one who wouldn't agree on the last negotion after 10 hours of BS'ing back and forth?

Like I said, I dont read articles or dont follow along with whether the fight is on/off, but from what I did read off google, Pacman is willing to do the blood tests.

in my opinion, this is coming down to "who calls teh shots". I really dont think either one is on roids, PED's, etc...but its all a mind game. And honestly, GAYweather is SCARED!
Well Since you do not read article let me get u up to speed...

There were request by Pacquiao side in the contract to make the fight work here they are:
1. 50-50 split of the money
2. 8oz Gloves
3. Overweight Penalty 10 million per pound
4. Fight at weightweight limit 147

Mayweather's request
1. Random Olympic Style Drug Testing
2. Put Cotto's WBO belt on the line

Mayweather agreed to all of Pacquiao's demands, but Pacquiao refused to do random Olympic Style Drug testing...Pacquiao agreed to blood test 60 days before the fight, 30 days before the fight,
and immediately after the fight, all under his terms and timetable...As far as urine test he was willing the do it unlimited and random...After Pacquiao blood testing demands the Olympic Testing people said that the demands would cause the test to be ineffective and needed to be random and closer to the fight...Pacquiao refused again...Then a number of people called him out because of this refusal, Cotto, De La Hoya, Malignaggi, Cintron, Berto, and of course the Mayweathers...Pacquiao filed a lawsuit against the Mayweathers for defamation of character...To make the fight work Mayweather was willing to let Pacquiao choose the agency that he wanted to do the blood tests and negogiate a date for when the last blood test would be taken before the fight, 3-4 days before or the most days before while keeping the test effective for PEDs testing...Again Pacquiao refused and said he would only blood test if the Nevada Boxing Commission required it for him to box or if they ran it...The Commission said they don't test using Blood and would not be setup for that before March 13...So now your basically caught up...

What people fail to realize is that Pacquiao will never fight any fighter if he has to test for PEDs...He has too much to lose...Why do you think he is fighting another Top Rank fighter?...because his promoter will talk the other fighter "Yuri Foreman" to fight Pacquiao without requiring testing...There were atleast 3 other fighters who have gone on the record stating they would take Mayweathers place, but all also said they would want Manny to do blood testing,...Marquez, Bradley, and Malignaggi...I think it is absolutely irresponsible of Arum and any boxing commission to sanction any fight with Pacquiao without requiring him to test for PEDs...And for the record, I don't think Manny is afraid the fight Floyd, I think Manny is scared to fight Floyd clean, and afraid to attempt to fight Floyd Dirty...

[ January 07, 2010, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: rmadison007 ]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rmadison007:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
Mr. Boxing (N8)...maybe you can answer me. Why is it that everyone wants to hate on Pacman when Mayweather's pussy ass camp is the one who wouldn't agree on the last negotion after 10 hours of BS'ing back and forth?

Like I said, I dont read articles or dont follow along with whether the fight is on/off, but from what I did read off google, Pacman is willing to do the blood tests.

in my opinion, this is coming down to "who calls teh shots". I really dont think either one is on roids, PED's, etc...but its all a mind game. And honestly, GAYweather is SCARED!
Well Since you do not read article let me get u up to speed...

There were request by Pacquiao side in the contract to make the fight work here they are:
1. 50-50 split of the money
2. 8oz Gloves
3. Overweight Penalty 10 million per pound
4. Fight at weightweight limit 147

Mayweather's request
1. Random Olympic Style Drug Testing
2. Put Cotto's WBO belt on the line

Mayweather agreed to all of Pacquiao's demands, but Pacquiao refused to do random Olympic Style Drug testing...Pacquiao agreed to blood test 60 days before the fight, 30 days before the fight,
and immediately after the fight, all under his terms and timetable...As far as urine test he was willing the do it unlimited and random...After Pacquiao blood testing demands the Olympic Testing people said that the demands would cause the test to be ineffective and needed to be random and closer to the fight...Pacquiao refused again...Then a number of people called him out because of this refusal, Cotto, De La Hoya, Malignaggi, Cintron, Berto, and of course the Mayweathers...Pacquiao filed a lawsuit against the Mayweathers for defamation of character...To make the fight work Mayweather was willing to let Pacquiao choose the agency that he wanted to do the blood tests and negogiate a date for when the last blood test would be taken before the fight, 3-4 days before or the most days before while keeping the test effective for PEDs testing...Again Pacquiao refused and said he would only blood test if the Nevada Boxing Commission required it for him to box or if they ran it...The Commission said they don't test using Blood and would not be setup for that before March 13...So now your basically caught up...

What people fail to realize is that Pacquiao will never fight any fighter if he has to test for PEDs...He has too much to lose...Why do you think he is fighting another Top Rank fighter?...because his promoter will talk the other fighter "Yuri Foreman" to fight Pacquiao without requiring testing...There were atleast 3 other fighters who have gone on the record stating they would take Mayweathers place, but all also said they would want Manny to do blood testing,...Marquez, Bradley, and Malignaggi...I think it is absolutely irresponsible of Arum and any boxing commission to sanction any fight with Pacquiao without requiring him to test for PEDs...And for the record, I don't think Manny is afraid the fight Floyd, I think Manny is scared to fight Floyd clean, and afraid to attempt to fight Floyd Dirty...
Thanks for the update [patriot] Good to know the facts... But I still think a lot of it has to do with who the bigger man is and who gets to call the shots. Regardless, if they DO fight, manny will knock him out [Razz]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by rmadison007:
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:
pacman is on roids! enough said
Sadly I have to agree. I think PacMan didn't want to fight Floyd after the talk of Yuri coming up anyway. He would rather get another belt and another mark in the history books, and he is taking the easier route. I mean why not step up to a real challenge for a belt? Shane, Berto or go after P-Dub for a real challenge. To me Manny is no better than Floyd. Floyd fights for checks and Manny fights for accolades. Both make us as the boxing fan the loser. Although this really puts Manny on my shit list more than Floyd. Manny is a world class idiot. Bout as smart as a door knob.
Mr. Boxing (N8)...maybe you can answer me. Why is it that everyone wants to hate on Pacman when Mayweather's pussy ass camp is the one who wouldn't agree on the last negotion after 10 hours of BS'ing back and forth?

Like I said, I dont read articles or dont follow along with whether the fight is on/off, but from what I did read off google, Pacman is willing to do the blood tests.

in my opinion, this is coming down to "who calls teh shots". I really dont think either one is on roids, PED's, etc...but its all a mind game. And honestly, GAYweather is SCARED!
Well Since you do not read article let me get u up to speed...

There were request by Pacquiao side in the contract to make the fight work here they are:
1. 50-50 split of the money
2. 8oz Gloves
3. Overweight Penalty 10 million per pound
4. Fight at weightweight limit 147

Mayweather's request
1. Random Olympic Style Drug Testing
2. Put Cotto's WBO belt on the line

Mayweather agreed to all of Pacquiao's demands, but Pacquiao refused to do random Olympic Style Drug testing...Pacquiao agreed to blood test 60 days before the fight, 30 days before the fight,
and immediately after the fight, all under his terms and timetable...As far as urine test he was willing the do it unlimited and random...After Pacquiao blood testing demands the Olympic Testing people said that the demands would cause the test to be ineffective and needed to be random and closer to the fight...Pacquiao refused again...Then a number of people called him out because of this refusal, Cotto, De La Hoya, Malignaggi, Cintron, Berto, and of course the Mayweathers...Pacquiao filed a lawsuit against the Mayweathers for defamation of character...To make the fight work Mayweather was willing to let Pacquiao choose the agency that he wanted to do the blood tests and negogiate a date for when the last blood test would be taken before the fight, 3-4 days before or the most days before while keeping the test effective for PEDs testing...Again Pacquiao refused and said he would only blood test if the Nevada Boxing Commission required it for him to box or if they ran it...The Commission said they don't test using Blood and would not be setup for that before March 13...So now your basically caught up...

What people fail to realize is that Pacquiao will never fight any fighter if he has to test for PEDs...He has too much to lose...Why do you think he is fighting another Top Rank fighter?...because his promoter will talk the other fighter "Yuri Foreman" to fight Pacquiao without requiring testing...There were atleast 3 other fighters who have gone on the record stating they would take Mayweathers place, but all also said they would want Manny to do blood testing,...Marquez, Bradley, and Malignaggi...I think it is absolutely irresponsible of Arum and any boxing commission to sanction any fight with Pacquiao without requiring him to test for PEDs...And for the record, I don't think Manny is afraid the fight Floyd, I think Manny is scared to fight Floyd clean, and afraid to attempt to fight Floyd Dirty...
Thanks for the update [patriot] Good to know the facts... But I still think a lot of it has to do with who the bigger man is and who gets to call the shots. Regardless, if they DO fight, manny will knock him out [Razz]
This all but proves Manny is scared of needles, but not for superstitious reasons, but what it will reveal. I never thought of a fight with Bradley. That would be pretty entertaining, with the end result of a Manny loss. True manny fans will back their boy. But if you look at it from a boxing standpoint, that fool is crooked as a roach leg.
 
Posted by AbominableSnoman... (Member # 8290) on :
 
Big Pacman fan, and a fan of Maywether's ring skills.. but this just pisses me off.

I say both guys suck it up, have a mediator create the rules (hopefully couldnt be bought) and fight with those rules..

WINNER TAKES 80%, LOSER takes 20%, now that would be a fight!! no BSing around! and your really only guaranteed 20%!! thats a TRUE EGO CHALLENGE!
 
Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
There was an interesting article on Fanhouse.com yesterday with an interview with a Nevada Boxing Commission doctor who did an interview about PEDs testing and if she believed if it was necessary and could be implemented in the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight through the commission...She also spent alot of time talking about PEDs testing and how people could cheat testing under the Pacquiao timetables...very interesting read...

http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/01/06/former-commission-doctor-says-blood-testing-feasable-for-boxing/

Also N8, Bradley actually said intially he would fight Pacquiao without testing, but his handler quickly said "not without testing"...Even Malinaggi said that he knew he would not have a shot at fighting Pacquiao because he would never agree to testing. He said he wasn't popular enough or big enough of a star to request something like that...

IMO I believe after Pacquiao fights "Yuri Foreman" he will retire if he is elected to office in the Phillipines in May...He will never fight if he has to test for PEDs...He will be the Mark Mcgwire of boxing...
 
Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rmadison007:
[QB} IMO I believe after Pacquiao fights "Yuri Foreman" he will retire if he is elected to office in the Phillipines in May...He will never fight if he has to test for PEDs...He will be the Mark Mcgwire of boxing... [/QB]
and will remain a ? to the world.....if he becomes a politician he will ruin his image even worse entangling himself with all those corrupt gov. officials..
 
Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 2973) on :
 
Some interesting notes about the "Olympic Style Testing"
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/321178-olympic-tests-have-never-detected-hgh-in-an-athlete-usada-backs-urine
 




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