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Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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starting week 2 on this and have noticed gains already. any of you guys take this?
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estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione, 13-ethyl-3methoxy-gona-2, 5(10)-diene-17-one 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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Make sure you do a PCT. What are you stacking it with? I know someone at the gym who was on it and put on 15lbs solid in about a month. This was the first time I ever saw designer steroids in caplet form.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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TBH, I am scared of that stuff. I am seeing people get tremendous gains from it (like steroid type gains with half the effort). Its kinda freaky. I felt the same about creatine but ended up taking it. I heard it is good by itself but in a stack is bananas.
Let me know how it goes for you. I wanna wait a bit and see a few more people on it...lol. Seems kinda Barry Bonds-ish
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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yeah i a messed up my hand punching someone at a party the first day i was on it so i havnt even been able to do hard workouts. just light weight and a lot of reps. and im still getting bigger, vains sticking out more, and even burining fat. only side effect so far is skin seems a bit more oily
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
yeah i a messed up my hand punching someone at a party the first day i was on it so i havnt even been able to do hard workouts. just light weight and a lot of reps. and im still getting bigger, vains sticking out more, and even burining fat. only side effect so far is skin seems a bit more oily
Are you stacking it? I have seen some dudes on some intense expensive ass stacks.
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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no im just taking it by itself so far. well that and whey protein and a multi vitamin. ive heard people stacking it with tren 250 or just creatine. this stuff is cheap as hell. i got it for 45 dollars a 60 count bottle
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
starting week 2 on this and have noticed gains already. any of you guys take this?
-active ingredients:
estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione, 13-ethyl-3methoxy-gona-2, 5(10)-diene-17-one 3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene
Is this at GNC?
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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no they dont sell it those kinda stores. you gotta get it online.
bottle says side effects include: acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, and increased levels of estrogen
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
no they dont sell it those kinda stores. you gotta get it online.
bottle says side effects include: acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, and increased levels of estrogen
LOL! It sounds like a steroid! Shoot me a link of where you got it from please.
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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http://store.bodybuildingfactory.com/sus500-basic-package.html
this is for the sus 500 and the post cycle as well. this will last two monts. not bad for 100 bucks
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
http://store.bodybuildingfactory.com/sus500-basic-package.html
this is for the sus 500 and the post cycle as well. this will last two monts. not bad for 100 bucks
I'm gonna order it when I get home to see if it works. hopefully it won"t shrink my dick lol!
Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on
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i just ordered sus500 and tren250. already have cytogainer and multivitamin on hand.
6 week cycle, hopefully i put a solid 10lbs or so on.
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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Originally posted by t top freak:
i just ordered sus500 and tren250. already have cytogainer and multivitamin on hand.
6 week cycle, hopefully i put a solid 10lbs or so on.
i think u definately will with the sus and tren stack. i would take the 2 pills a day dosage. one in the morning and one in the afternoon for the sus. im sure the tren250 is the same way. make sure you getting at least one gram protein per lb of body weight
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
...acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, ...
These are happening to the dude I know that is taking them. Buthe is getting buff
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
...acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, ...
These are happening to the dude I know that is taking them. Buthe is getting buff
i have really only noticed the aggresivness in a few occasions. like when a friend would hit my on the arm or pat my hard on the back my blood pressure would shoot up and i would want to punch him. and im usually a really calm guy when it comes to that stuff. so a really agressive guy might get the "roid rage"
Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
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Originally posted by t top freak:
i just ordered sus500 and tren250. already have cytogainer and multivitamin on hand.
6 week cycle, hopefully i put a solid 10lbs or so on.
i think u definately will with the sus and tren stack. i would take the 2 pills a day dosage. one in the morning and one in the afternoon for the sus. im sure the tren250 is the same way. make sure you getting at least one gram protein per lb of body weight
yeah i think thats what the instructions on the bottles say.
Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on
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any of you guys workout with kettlebells? holy shit is all i have to say ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
...acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, ...
These are happening to the dude I know that is taking them. Buthe is getting buff
i have really only noticed the aggresivness in a few occasions. like when a friend would hit my on the arm or pat my hard on the back my blood pressure would shoot up and i would want to punch him. and im usually a really calm guy when it comes to that stuff. so a really agressive guy might get the "roid rage"
I actually get real irritable on Creatine as well. Yea this dude be one on in the gym. Off cycle he sounds normal when he talks. When he is on he sounds like Randy Macho Man Savage.
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
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Originally posted by t top freak:
i just ordered sus500 and tren250. already have cytogainer and multivitamin on hand.
6 week cycle, hopefully i put a solid 10lbs or so on.
i think u definately will with the sus and tren stack. i would take the 2 pills a day dosage. one in the morning and one in the afternoon for the sus. im sure the tren250 is the same way. make sure you getting at least one gram protein per lb of body weight
Well, I got my sus 500 and PCT the other day. I did not see where it said anythinh about taking one gram of protein per lb of body weight ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Hopefully I will see some gaing within the next month ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif)
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
.....some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
LMMFAO
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
im buying the estrogen blocker this week lol! I do not think you need a liver support while on this stuff though
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
im buying the estrogen blocker this week lol! I do not think you need a liver support while on this stuff though
You really gotta have a good pct and liver support while on a cycle. Steroids is no joke to your body.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by essasin:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
im buying the estrogen blocker this week lol! I do not think you need a liver support while on this stuff though
You really gotta have a good pct and liver support while on a cycle. Steroids is no joke to your body.
EB, I say it is not worth it man. I would exhaust my other avenues first. If you have to take something to gain something then take somethign on top of that to prevent something. I would say that thing does not belong in your body.
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by essasin:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
im buying the estrogen blocker this week lol! I do not think you need a liver support while on this stuff though
You really gotta have a good pct and liver support while on a cycle. Steroids is no joke to your body.
EB, I say it is not worth it man. I would exhaust my other avenues first. If you have to take something to gain something then take somethign on top of that to prevent something. I would say that thing does not belong in your body.
I have the PCT but I don't take that until day 27. I'm just gonna do it for a couple of months to see if the shit works.
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by essasin:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
im buying the estrogen blocker this week lol! I do not think you need a liver support while on this stuff though
You really gotta have a good pct and liver support while on a cycle. Steroids is no joke to your body.
EB, I say it is not worth it man. I would exhaust my other avenues first. If you have to take something to gain something then take somethign on top of that to prevent something. I would say that thing does not belong in your body.
I have the PCT but I don't take that until day 27. I'm just gonna do it for a couple of months to see if the shit works.
You have a pct planned so you are on the right track. If this is your first cycle and you put the diet and work in, you will see absurd gains in comparison to before the cycle. Keep us updated.
Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on
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my buddy just gave me a 90 capsule bottle of Tren Xtreme and a 60 capsule bottle of Novedex XT for free. i am going to work out hard for a couple months before i try them.
what is a good liver support, and multi vitamin you guys take??
Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on
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animal pack is a good multi and liver support.
Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on
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thanks!
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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orange triad (multi V & joint support) 2 in 1 you will need joint support, your shit will feel sore a few weeks in from the strength/weight gains
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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just finished my first cycle on it. unfortunately i couldnt workout how i wanted to since i broke my finger while on it. im off it now with my post cycle and creatine pyruvate. did gain more mass though. will try again with tren 250 next cycle
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
just finished my first cycle on it. unfortunately i couldnt workout how i wanted to since i broke my finger while on it. im off it now with my post cycle and creatine pyruvate. did gain more mass though. will try again with tren 250 next cycle
did you get "buff" lol?
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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be sure to take before and after pics.
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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As of last week I increased my chest presses by 25lbs ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
The first day I took this stuff with a redbull I felt like I was on some type of narcotic! I had soo much energy after doing an hour of cardio it was ridiculous! That was only on the first day though after that It was somewhat back to normal. I am not sure what my diet should be though so I am eating alot of Chicken and turkey etc. I eat about 6 small meals a day. What i really want is to lose weight and have lean muscle so i might try a ECA Stack sometime in the future. I do seem to be putting on a little more mass though and I feel stronger. We will see how this week goes
Posted by 86redGT (Member # 6961) on
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
You definitely want a liver support while on this stuff... all ph are harsh on your liver,and if your nipples start to feel sensitive you might want to get an estrogen blocker... some guys get bitch tits from a ph, just a heads up
+1 on the liver support, my roommate is a personal trainer and was taking the same stuff, he said it is about equivalent to drinking a 5th a night to yourself.
The liver support is only about $40 and is just one pill in the morning and at night, better safe than sorry. My dad was a bodybuilder in the 80's and knows waaaay too many people that are having liver problems and failure int their early to mid 50's.
Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
just finished my first cycle on it. unfortunately i couldnt workout how i wanted to since i broke my finger while on it. im off it now with my post cycle and creatine pyruvate. did gain more mass though. will try again with tren 250 next cycle
did you get "buff" lol?
ok gains. you wanna get buff get some pure testerone, dbol, and pycho and run a 12 week cycle. 600 - 800 bucks if you can find a guy and dont mind acne on your chest, shoulders, and back
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
just finished my first cycle on it. unfortunately i couldnt workout how i wanted to since i broke my finger while on it. im off it now with my post cycle and creatine pyruvate. did gain more mass though. will try again with tren 250 next cycle
did you get "buff" lol?
ok gains. you wanna get buff get some pure testerone, dbol, and pycho and run a 12 week cycle. 600 - 800 bucks if you can find a guy and dont mind acne on your chest, shoulders, and back
What kind of gains did you end up getting after your first cycle? what was your diet?
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
...acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, ...
These are happening to the dude I know that is taking them. Buthe is getting buff
I'd rather stay a thin, pretty & nice guy than being a big ugly asshole.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Originally posted by Jdub07:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by Daniel50:
...acne, hair loss, irratibility, aggresivness, ...
These are happening to the dude I know that is taking them. Buthe is getting buff
I'd rather stay a thin, pretty & nice guy than being a big ugly asshole.
Exactly. I think this is doing too much for something that can be achieved with Creatine, Protein and Glutamine. Also just to note the dude I referred to is doing a lot of complaining about joint pains.
Good luck, be sure to take pics. I would love to see the transformation.
Posted by That_Guy (Member # 7133) on
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Time to resurrect a thread...
I am going on week 3 of my cycle of m-drol. At first I was interested in Tren because a coworker has great results, but settled on m-drol after I did some research. I have had a cold from hell this week and was only able to lift once and appetite is all, but gone! However, through the first two weeks I gained 13 pounds and my lifts went up considerably... maybe placebo, but it is crazy how much stronger I feel
I made the mistake of telling the family and girlfriend about the cycle and they are naturally worried and concerned, but life goes on. Next time I know to keep it low key.
My stack is m-drol, liver support, multivitamin, bcaa, creatine and n02
I was eating on average about 4,000-4,500 calories a day before I got sick this week ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
I started at 165 pounds and was hoping to make 185. Right now I am hovering around 175-178.
I am going to use Reversitol and ZMA for a pct
So far the only side effects have been back pumps and a few pimples on my back, arms and chest, but nothing serious. Oh, and I haven't really wanted to have sex... but still manage.
I think the whole 4 week cycle and 4 week pct (8 weeks total) cost me about $65.00??? I used Google Shopping to find the lowest prices and then supplementwarehouse.com to purchase. Supplementwarehouse.com prices matches anyone and beats by 5%
This is my first cycle taking anything like this. I am very interested to see how much weight and strength I keep.
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