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Posted by VENOMUS PONY 5.0 (Member # 7785) on :
 
any of guys got hid kits on a fox. i have been thinking about it for awhile what type of kit would be a economical and decent at the same time.
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
check this out....looks really good. But its too much work for me.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=809200


 

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Posted by LS1EATR (Member # 2702) on :
 
I had them on my fox and they look hella sic... go to xenonlink.com I order mine 8000k here is a old pic of my stang it was in the day time, doesnt look good side view


 

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Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
LS1, did your stock headlights scatter a lot of the light that came out? after reading that thread at the corral, i see that it's not good to use the stock fox lights and that diamond clears are recommended. did you run into any problems? also, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you roughly pay for everything?
 

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Posted by LS1EATR (Member # 2702) on :
 
i used these they fit perfect... the headlight cost $200 and the HID'S were $140

[ April 29, 2009, 02:48 AM: Message edited by: LS1EATR ]
 

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Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :
 
i bought the 60.00 kit off ebay and they work great. Dont get anything higher than 8000k the 10Ks are too blue IMO. Definately a nice addition for a fox, you cant see with the stock headlight anyways. Im going to grab a kit for the figlights. The kit I got works great, balist are almost silent. I havent had a problem with them but have only had them for about 2months so well see.
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
the kits from ddmtuning.com are coo too
 

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Posted by MPP*formerly t-top50* (Member # 2735) on :
 
Get the 8000K. eBay $69 shipped lifetime warranty on ballast and bulb.
 

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Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 

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Originally posted by MPP*formerly t-top50*:
Get the 8000K. eBay $69 shipped lifetime warranty on ballast and bulb.

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The DDM kits kick ass, I have 3 sets and all are very high quality. If I ever have another car that doesn't have HID's I'll convert it for sure, light output compared to stock bulbs or even the Silverstar's is like comparing 3.73's to 2.73 gears. If you do a little research you'll find the failure rate of the cheap ebay kits are really high and collecting on a warranty from 99.9% of those sellers in Hong Kong, China or Taiwan is impossible..... trust me, I know. The guy I got my car from put a cheap eBay kit in my car and a bulb went out less than 6 months later. They wanted me to pay for some crazy ass shipping both directions that would have cost me more than the whole kit was in the first place. I picked up another set of bulbs local for $50 and called it a day. 3 weeks later one of the ballasts died so I had to steal the set out of my wife's driving lights.

One good point that was made is don't get over 8000K bulbs. Another good tip is stay away from the 55 watt kits simply because they are too bright. HID retrofit kits are illegal and if your running around with super blue, super bright bulbs your going to get pulled over...... then they want to look under the car for cats and under the hood for mods. Play it safe and don't give them another reason to pull you over.

[ April 30, 2009, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: asskickn88 ]
 

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Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
I almost purchased an HID kit until I read a few threads over at HIDPlanet forums about HID kits vs retrofit. I copied this post from Gearbox on the HIDPlanet sticky so credit goes to him/her.

DOT cutoff has a short slope between the cutoff lines, this allows them to be aimed higher without blinding traffic. The DOT design also incorporates a way to let small amounts of light out above the cutoff to reflect off road sign on the right, as you can see from the faint upward flare of light. Here is a DOT valeo projector cutoff.




Now for the question about putting hid bulb in a halogen housing, you cannot do this. Any reflector or projector designed for a halogen bulb will not work with hid. the reason is the different ways the two bulbs emit light. Halogen has a small filament in the center of the bulb, whereas hid has a very large arc tube that emits light. The two require completely different optic design for the lens. The hid reflector and projector are designed based on the geometry of the hid bulb and how it emits light. This is why the oem hardware works so well.

Now if you decide to go with a cheap kit and throw it in a halogen housing, bad things will happen. One, there will be alot of stray light (glare) above the cutoff line which will shine directly into drivers eyes. This is very dangerous due to the angle and brightness of the light. Also, you will have areas on the road where there is no light, and areas with more light. This produces hot spots, or uneven areas of lighting. While some kits provide decent ground light, much of it is lost above the cutoff and never makes it to the ground. in addition, halogen headlamps just do not provide a wide enough beam to really put the extra hid light to use. For example, lets put an H4 rebased hid kit into this civic halogen reflector. Look what happens on the wall, the cutoff is nothing but a large blob, and there is alot of light above the blob where there should not be any.




Now lets take a look at the ground. While this kit provides acceptable results, the beam is still similar to stock. There is alot of foreground missing, and the beam does not go very far or wide.




Now what happens if we switch to an oem hid projector and look at the ground. There is perfectly even lighting all around, stretching out from the edge of the bumper to the far distance. Also look how wide you can see to the left and right, into the field.




And another to show how much wider the beam is. Since hid is so bright, engineers can adjust the projector to output a much more spread out beam. Halogen projectors on the other hand must focus light more to a smaller area.




Now look what happens when you put a real hid projector up against a wall. Instead of a big fuzz, you get a sharp straight line with light below and darkness above to limit glare to other drivers.


 

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