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Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Where-will-Michael-Vick-play-football-in-2009-?urn=nfl,141488
gotta love how oakland fans can relate to vick lmao at the editor...damn fool for blasting oakland like that...
Posted by six 5.0 (Member # 3153) on
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OOOOHHHH fukkk no........ The Niners better not get that sick FUCKER......
Posted by DRIVINFST (Member # 2430) on
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lol..."Oakland fans can relate to Vick's status as an ex-con"
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on
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Originally posted by DRIVINFST:
lol..."Oakland fans can relate to Vick's status as an ex-con"
LMFAO thats hilarious
Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on
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ahahhaha that is AWESOME!!!
Posted by HaulinAss Motorsports (Member # 541) on
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Originally posted by six 5.0:
OOOOHHHH fukkk no........ The Niners better not get that sick FUCKER......
I say SIGN HIM!!!!
Posted by Yaterstang (Member # 7659) on
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Vick and Gore in the backfield would be pretty damn sick!
Posted by 1990GT50 (Member # 2119) on
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Who cares if he fought dogs.... its just easier to get a good deal on him. I would be happy if the niners could somehow pick him up since they definately need a qb but they're too conservative of a team. Oakland does seem logical and would still be sick
Posted by HaulinAss Motorsports (Member # 541) on
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Originally posted by 1990GT50:
Who cares if he fought dogs.... its just easier to get a good deal on him. I would be happy if the niners could somehow pick him up since they definately need a qb but they're too conservative of a team. Oakland does seem logical and would still be sick
Oakland wont sign him, they have a good qb, its the rest of the team and the owner that sucks
Posted by Mustang Mike (Member # 4057) on
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Originally posted by 1990GT50:
Who cares if he fought dogs.... its just easier to get a good deal on him. I would be happy if the niners could somehow pick him up since they definately need a qb but they're too conservative of a team. Oakland does seem logical and would still be sick
LOL, you said, "(The niners) definatley need a QB." Well I don't know if you know much about Vick, but he has never been a good QB. He is one hell of a scrambler, but as far as throwing the ball, which is a QB's job; HE SUCKS! Just My 2 cents...
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Say what you want, but dude is a baller. Him in your backfield gives you a great X-factor. Even is he is a marginal QB as far as arm. His mobility and speed is dangerous as hell. I'd sign him.
Posted by six 5.0 (Member # 3153) on
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The sick shit that guy did to dogs.... Fuck that, fuck him, If I were Goodell I would spit in that fucks face when he came begging for his job back....
I love football and the NFL. That guy is a disgrace to the league.
Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mikeP:
[QB] http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Where-will-Michael-Vick-play-football-in-2009-?urn=nfl,141488
LOL IF U GO TO THE LINK N READ THE COMMENTS THERES SUM1 THAT PUT "Oakland Raidas!!! Go Packers!! WOOO "
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by six 5.0:
The sick shit that guy did to dogs.... Fuck that, fuck him, If I were Goodell I would spit in that fucks face when he came begging for his job back....
I love football and the NFL. That guy is a disgrace to the league.
Hey, if pacman got 30 or so chances I don't see why Michael Vick can't get another one. It was wrong what he did but he paid his debt to society and he should have the opportunity to make a living.
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on
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Originally posted by six 5.0:
The sick shit that guy did to dogs.... Fuck that, fuck him, If I were Goodell I would spit in that fucks face when he came begging for his job back....
I love football and the NFL. That guy is a disgrace to the league.
well said, I think the NFL needs to let hime work in an animal shelter for a year and then spit in his face...LOL I hate that guy! Those poor animals never did anything to him!
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on
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Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Posted by slow96cobra (Member # 6001) on
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when he first got drafted he was not a accurate passer, but as time passed by he started to become better now that all this shit happen hes gonna be rusty. same thing with JERMACUS RUSSELL that fucker has an arm but no accuracy just give him time and a GOOD OL.
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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I believe people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Plus he has paid his debt to society, not like some athletes. So a second chance he deserves. Vick has talent that cannot be taught. Everything I believe he can learn if put in a situation where he has to learn. In the ATL they pretty much let him do what ever. Make him learn and be part of a system and if that takes, then you have pretty much have a beast of a quarterback. Something the likes of a Randall Cunningham x20.
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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oops
[ February 16, 2009, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Steve Young was a mobile QB and he won a super Bowl. I guess that would make your statement inaccurate..
Posted by six 5.0 (Member # 3153) on
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Vick is a grow ass man. He is very successful & talented with a promising career in the NFL. Take a look at the big picture. Why fight dogs? Why KILL the dogs? He's a fuckin Sociopath & his image is TRASHED... I think if the NFL reinstates his contract allot of people will be shaking their heads.
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Steve Young was a mobile QB and he won a super Bowl. I guess that would make your statement inaccurate..
He was a throw first then run if you need to QB. Plus, S. Young was accurate.
Accuracy I believe is also something you have or you don't. You can become better with time and practice but how much improvement can we expect within a small time frame like his?
Randall Cunningham also played well b/c he was accurate, Vick is looking to run first unless the window of the throw is wide open.
In the NFL almost all throws made are in tight windows, sometimes I'm amazed at the throws that these QB's make.
[ February 17, 2009, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: COBRAreflection ]
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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The NFL is about making money. And Vick's story will make money. Plus his talents are too great to look past (assuming he comes out in shape) for almost any team. Fact of the matter is that he will sell jerseys and fill stands. Over time the PETA people will leave the matter alone and it will fade from sight.
It is unfortunate but that is the way society is. Collective short term memory.
Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on
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hit it right on the button bro....money....
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Steve Young was a mobile QB and he won a super Bowl. I guess that would make your statement inaccurate..
He was a throw first then run if you need to QB. Plus, S. Young was accurate.
Accuracy I believe is also something you have or you don't. You can become better with time and practice but how much improvement can we expect within a small time frame like his?
Randall Cunningham also played well b/c he was accurate, Vick is looking to run first unless the window of the throw is wide open.
In the NFL almost all throws made are in tight windows, sometimes I'm amazed at the throws that these QB's make.
Steve Young has the most rushing yards of ANY QB to ever play in the NFL... With that being said, If you can get Vick for the league minimum or close to it why not take a chance. He would be a bargain! Hell, if tony Romo and JT Sullivan can start in the NFL I see no reason why Vick cant ATLEAST be a backup at some position
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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Vick is a starter in the league. He may play the background until things die down. But he is a star caliber player. I still believe once put in a system that is systematic like a well oiled machine. He can learn to extend the pocket. I doubt he will ever be a pocket QB. But if he extends the pocket ala-Roethlisberger, you will have to respect his speed and quickness. Thus becoming a nightmare for teams. Shit with a good RB they could run the old-school option all-day like Nebraska used to do with Tommie Frasier
Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on
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And you vick haters should remember that as a qb, he probably won 75 percent of his games, and if i remember he did get them deep in the playoffs 1 year. GO VICK>
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on
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We don't need Vic and should not sign him unless he is real cheap. We have commited to JR as our leading QB and future and this year espeically is a make it or break it season for JR. He needs to play to prove himself and show us that he is the person we made him out to be. Picking up Vick is a punch to the gut more than a reality check because it's a sign that we will replace him. I say this because I don't think Vick is a backup QB.
On top of that we need consistancy and build chemistry with the same players and coach to develop relationships and regualarity. Throwing in a high profile guy with all the media hoopla like Vick is the last thing we need.
I know Vic can be a starting QB but we have had too many experienments blow up in our face in the past 5 years. Last year we had a 2xx million dollar experiement that went nowhere.
Vic can be a starting QB just not here. It could be a different story next year if JR stinks up the joint. But, we just don't throw away the #1 overall pick without giving him a chance to develop.
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Steve Young was a mobile QB and he won a super Bowl. I guess that would make your statement inaccurate..
He was a throw first then run if you need to QB. Plus, S. Young was accurate.
Accuracy I believe is also something you have or you don't. You can become better with time and practice but how much improvement can we expect within a small time frame like his?
Randall Cunningham also played well b/c he was accurate, Vick is looking to run first unless the window of the throw is wide open.
In the NFL almost all throws made are in tight windows, sometimes I'm amazed at the throws that these QB's make.
Steve Young has the most rushing yards of ANY QB to ever play in the NFL... With that being said, If you can get Vick for the league minimum or close to it why not take a chance. He would be a bargain! Hell, if tony Romo and JT Sullivan can start in the NFL I see no reason why Vick cant ATLEAST be a backup at some position
LOL!
Your going to compare O'sulllivan to Romo???
Romo for your information has been one of the top rated passers and in number of TD's thrown only behind Manning, Brady and Brees.
Where the hell do you draw a comparison to o'sullivan?
In being a Dallas fan, you would think I would be unhappy with his performance of late, but I see the real problem in the O-line and other distractions.
I can tell you this much- I wouldn't want Vick on my squad. And I'm not a Vick hater, I just wouldn't want him as my QB (if Jerry Jones signs him he can play special teams
To win, you need a QB that can THROW TOUCHDOWNS!
Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
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Originally posted by COBRAreflection:
Vick is very talented but it has been proven time and time again that a running QB does not win in the NFL.
As good as he is, defenses in the NFL can and have adjusted to his style of play and shut him down. I believe he deserves a 2nd chance as we have all made mistakes. I'm not really an animal lover so I can't relate from that aspect.
I wouldn't sign him because he's not a good QB.
Steve Young was a mobile QB and he won a super Bowl. I guess that would make your statement inaccurate..
He was a throw first then run if you need to QB. Plus, S. Young was accurate.
Accuracy I believe is also something you have or you don't. You can become better with time and practice but how much improvement can we expect within a small time frame like his?
Randall Cunningham also played well b/c he was accurate, Vick is looking to run first unless the window of the throw is wide open.
In the NFL almost all throws made are in tight windows, sometimes I'm amazed at the throws that these QB's make.
Steve Young has the most rushing yards of ANY QB to ever play in the NFL... With that being said, If you can get Vick for the league minimum or close to it why not take a chance. He would be a bargain! Hell, if tony Romo and JT Sullivan can start in the NFL I see no reason why Vick cant ATLEAST be a backup at some position
LOL!
Your going to compare O'sulllivan to Romo???
Romo for your information has been one of the top rated passers and in number of TD's thrown only behind Manning, Brady and Brees.
Where the hell do you draw a comparison to o'sullivan?
In being a Dallas fan, you would think I would be unhappy with his performance of late, but I see the real problem in the O-line and other distractions.
I can tell you this much- I wouldn't want Vick on my squad. And I'm not a Vick hater, I just wouldn't want him as my QB (if Jerry Jones signs him he can play special teams
To win, you need a QB that can THROW TOUCHDOWNS!
If Romo is soooo good. Then why has he not one a single playoff game up to this point? Basically he is like an A-Rod of football. He dissapears in the postseason. I would take Vick over Romo. I'm pretty sure Vick has gone further in the playoffs then Romo has and Vick did it with less weapons..
p.s comparing Romo to o sullivan is a bit of a stretch LOL.
Posted by COBRAreflection (Member # 5247) on
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Romo is still young and just finished his 2nd full season. Did you know it took the GREAT Peyton Manning 8 seasons before he won his first playoff game and thus far only Super Bowl?
Yes the Cowboys have a lot of weapons, but I think it was obvious when Romo went down this year how important he is. He's been the best thing thats happened to the Cowboys since the big 3 left.
He ain't going anywhere, and quit lying!
You know you would take Romo over Vick! LOL!!!
[ February 17, 2009, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: COBRAreflection ]
Posted by Insurance Dude (Member # 8241) on
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who cares what the fool did id want him on the niners. if vick wins all will be forgiven.
romo is a really good human being and vick is scum for what he did but i would still take vick over romo. romo with more weapons could not get it done and vick with less weapons got his team to the playoffs and deep in the playoffs. he even beat farve in green bay in the play offs. thats something romo could never pull off with all the talent they have on thier team.
the sad thing is that if vick was a coyboy he would have had jery jones bail him out and keep him in the leage and keep him outa jail instead the falcons just bailed on him and did not participate in his defence at all. in that case the coyboys are the best team to play for in the nfl. cuz no mater what you pull the team has always got your back.
ill be the first in line to buy a mike vick niner jersey.
plus i want vick back in the leage becuase i miss using him in madden.
Posted by HaulinAss Motorsports (Member # 541) on
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Saw on the news tonight that Niners have no interest in signing Vick. Guess they received numerous calls after Singletary's comment stating they wouldn't rule out Vick as a possibility.
That's shitty oh well another year of disappointment ahead for niner fans
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