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Posted by shmayleen (Member # 8290) on :
 
whats the difference between just a taurus, and a sho? aside from the obvious trim difference, and interior..

thanks!

performance? and also do any of you own, or have owned a sho? whats the quality of the car? does it break down alot?? are there any issues i need to check out before getting one? thanks!!!

-mitch
 
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on :
 
24valve DOHC 3.0 or 3.1 motor I think, upgraded suspension...
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
1997 SHO had a dohc 3.4 liter (207cu. in) V8 that produced 235 horsepower @ 6100rpm and 230 torque @ 4800rpm.

It got 17mpg in town and 26mpg on the highway.
0 - 60mph in 7.5 seconds
and ran the 1320 in a blistering 15.7 seconds.

The 1997 Taurus had an OHV 3.0 liter V6 that produced 145 horsepower @ 5,250rpm and 170 torque @ 3,250rpm. It got 20mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway.

The 1997 Taurus also had an optional dohc 3.0 liter v6 that produced 200 horsepower and 200 torque. It got 19mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway.
 
Posted by shmayleen (Member # 8290) on :
 
thanks!!

do you know the quality of the vehicle?

..like will i be at kragens buying parts alot? or spending money at the mechanics?

thanks..
 
Posted by shmayleen (Member # 8290) on :
 
thanks!!

do you know the quality of the vehicle?

..like will i be at kragens buying parts alot? or spending money at the mechanics?

thanks..
 
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MustangNate:
1997 SHO had a dohc 3.4 liter (207cu. in) V8 that produced 235 horsepower @ 6100rpm and 230 torque @ 4800rpm.

It got 17mpg in town and 26mpg on the highway.
0 - 60mph in 7.5 seconds
and ran the 1320 in a blistering 15.7 seconds.

The 1997 Taurus had an OHV 3.0 liter V6 that produced 145 horsepower @ 5,250rpm and 170 torque @ 3,250rpm. It got 20mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway.

The 1997 Taurus also had an optional dohc 3.0 liter v6 that produced 200 horsepower and 200 torque. It got 19mpg in town and 28mpg on the highway.

3.4 liter V8? you mean V6?
 
Posted by gtowned (Member # 8156) on :
 
no he meant v8


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine
 
Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by gtowned:
no he meant v8


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine

They had both V6's and V8's in the SHO. I always thought they were V6's myself.. [Confused]

quote:

Ford Motor Company had worked with Yamaha Motor Corporation to develop the compact DOHC V6 Ford SHO V6 engine for the 1989 Ford Taurus SHO "Super High Output". When the time came to replace that engine, the company again worked with Yamaha to build a new V8 based on the successful Ford Duratec engine. This partnership created the 3.4 L V8 for the 1996 Taurus SHO. That engine went out of production after 1999, but was resurrected and modified by Ford's Volvo marque for use in the Volvo XC90 SUV in 2005.

The current 4.4 L V-8 Volvo engine, made by Yamaha in Japan, is unique in Volvo/Ford's wide range of V8 engines in that it is designed for transverse use and has a V6-like 60° bank angle.


 
Posted by SPIDER_STANG (Member # 8658) on :
 
Yeah the SHO had some zip but ford never took care of that car!! they almost always break down!! Think about how many do you see on the road from the 90's body style?? So let that tell you that they break down to much!! hell you always see them with that big circle on the hood or roof from the paint clear coat peeling off!!! LoL
 
Posted by Diamond Dave (Member # 5023) on :
 
Diamond Dave to the rescue. Here`s everything you should know:

89-95 Manual tranny SHO`s all had a Yamaha built 3.0 DOHC V6, rated at 220 hp and 200 tq.

93-95 Automatic tranny SHO`s used the same Yamaha V6, but they had a bigger bore (same stroke), so it came out to a 3.2 DOHC V6. This was done to compensate for the AOD drivetrain loss. Auto 3.2`s are rated at 220 hp and 215 tq.

96-99 SHO`s only came with an Auto, and had a 3.4 Liter DOHC Duratec V8. Yes, it has 8 cylinders. It is a Ford motor but they used the same intake design as the previous V6 SHO`s. The reason the displacement is so small, is because the motor is basically a 3.0 Duratec V6 that had 2 more cylinders added on to create a 3.4 liter V8. It is NOT a Yamaha motor like the previous Generation SHO`s. Power output is 235 hp and 230 tq.

Both 1st and 2nd Gen MTX SHO`s run mid-high 14`s in the 1/4 mile, trapping between 93 and 95 mph. The ATX`s run mid-high 15`s, trapping 90-92 mph. 3rd Gen V8 SHO`s generally run anywhere in the 15`s. Some seem stronger than others. They generally hit mid 15`s, and should trap between 88 and 91 mph.

Gen 3 SHO`s are pretty reliable if maintained correctly. If the car runs good, check to see how the tranny is doing. Also check to see if the cams have been welded. V8 SHO`s without welded cams have been known to go boom at any given time. Getting the cams welded is an expensive job. Usually about a grand IIRC. If both those areas are fine, then the V8 SHO`s can be a very reliable car. The 1st and 2nd Gen`s have a lot more bugs to work out, and a lot more maintenance to catch up with, so they usually turn out to be a bigger headache.

www.shotimes.com is a good source for any SHO questions you have about maintenance, performance upgrades, etc. Also, SHOforum.com is great for any questions you may have as well. Has a HUGE Faq about all the cars there.

Did I answer your question? LOL [patriot]
 
Posted by Diamond Dave (Member # 5023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
Yeah the SHO had some zip but ford never took care of that car!! they almost always break down!! Think about how many do you see on the road from the 90's body style?? So let that tell you that they break down to much!! hell you always see them with that big circle on the hood or roof from the paint clear coat peeling off!!! LoL

That`s mostly due to the price of the cars. They go for so cheap, that a lot of idiots out there can afford them, then run them into the ground when they find out how quick they are for the price. If you properly maintain the car (like any car), it will last you a long long time. I go off mileage of cars to see how long they last. My SHO has 172k miles on it and it runs strong. Check eBay, it`s hard to find a SHO with under 140k on it. That seems like it has lead a decently healthy life IMO.
 
Posted by 92_5.0 (Member # 7624) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chris C.:
quote:
Originally posted by gtowned:
no he meant v8


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Yamaha_V8_engine

They had both V6's and V8's in the SHO. I always thought they were V6's myself.. [Confused]

quote:

Ford Motor Company had worked with Yamaha Motor Corporation to develop the compact DOHC V6 Ford SHO V6 engine for the 1989 Ford Taurus SHO "Super High Output". When the time came to replace that engine, the company again worked with Yamaha to build a new V8 based on the successful Ford Duratec engine. This partnership created the 3.4 L V8 for the 1996 Taurus SHO. That engine went out of production after 1999, but was resurrected and modified by Ford's Volvo marque for use in the Volvo XC90 SUV in 2005.

The current 4.4 L V-8 Volvo engine, made by Yamaha in Japan, is unique in Volvo/Ford's wide range of V8 engines in that it is designed for transverse use and has a V6-like 60° bank angle.


Thats pretty cool, I had no idea [patriot]
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
Parts are expensive, I mean really expensive. I remember working on a early 90's SHO and the distributor was $1,800 and that was 5 years ago. Parts would be hard to find too, I'd guess many of those engine parts are obsolete.
 
Posted by Insurance Dude (Member # 8241) on :
 
this information is really interesting. i wonder do you guys think the SHO would be comparable in terms of cost of ownership with a honda or a toyta sedan? i am curious becuase evntually i need to buy my wife a 4 dr sedan and it would be tight to have her drive around in a sleeper like a SHO.
 
Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
i see the first gen sho's in the wreckin yard all the time! they make a sweet v6 swap in a fox! you gotta use the mazda mpv and areostar 5 speed tranny to make it work though! [burnout]
 
Posted by 95628stang (Member # 8478) on :
 
I had a 97 SHO. Fun car but expensive to maintain. The v8 cars had an issue with the camshafts gears moving on the shafts causing serious engine failure as the valves hit the pistons. Had my cam gears welded to the shafts as they were merely press fit with no dowels or keyways. Transmission was a weak point also and usually went away around 60 thousand miles. Here is a website to answer most of your questions.

http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/96shohome.html

In the long run a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord will cost you much less.
 
Posted by Diamond Dave (Member # 5023) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95628stang:
In the long run a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord will cost you much less.

+1. Plus the V8 SHO's aren't really quick enough to be a sleeper. They sound mean, but would have a hard time walking away from a stock V6 Accord. Gen 1 and 2 SHO's were more sleepers back in their day. Nowadays, they are about on par with your average V6 5spd sedan.
 
Posted by Insurance Dude (Member # 8241) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95628stang:
I had a 97 SHO. Fun car but expensive to maintain. The v8 cars had an issue with the camshafts gears moving on the shafts causing serious engine failure as the valves hit the pistons. Had my cam gears welded to the shafts as they were merely press fit with no dowels or keyways. Transmission was a weak point also and usually went away around 60 thousand miles. Here is a website to answer most of your questions.

http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/96shohome.html

In the long run a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord will cost you much less.

ok cool thats really good to know. thanks for the advise.
 




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