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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
if i painted my coupe black with white doors and a white roof would i be gettin harrased by police because of it?
 
Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :
 
Supposedly there is a violation code with doing that. There was an article that mentioned it in the past. Pretty much they were complaining to police departments for just taking of the stickers of vehicles and selling them in auctions but not painting them over, which was a violation of the vehicle code. That's where I saw it, I'll try to find it.
 
Posted by stanger50 (Member # 1665) on :
 
no, you can do what you want as long as you dont have blue or red lights.
 
Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :
 
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27605.htm

quote:
Vehicle Resembling Law Enforcement Vehicle
27605. No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle painted in the manner described in Section 40800 to resemble a motor vehicle used by a peace officer or traffic officer on duty for the primary purpose of enforcing the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000) pursuant to Section 40800.

The provisions of this section shall not apply to vehicles which are painted one solid color or to vehicles first registered on or before January 1, 1979. These provisions shall not apply to vehicles which are any of the following:

(a) Owned by vehicle manufacturers or dealers.

(b) Used by law enforcement agencies in the enforcement of the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000).

(c) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for movie or television production and display signs stating "movie car" prominently on the doors.

(d) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively for funeral escort purposes.

(e) Motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without insignia.

Amended Ch. 340, Stats. 1981. Effective January 1, 1982.


 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
now i jus gotta decide if i wanna do it or not..lol..thanks venomous
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
i cant find the article but in the past few years a guy painted his new mustang to immitate the Saleen from Transformers, decals and all. Local police complained and actually took the guy to court, where the judges went against police saying his car violated no codes.
Wish i could find the article [Confused]
 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
youl think ill befine since their wont be a spotlight on the car?..or it makes no difference?
 
Posted by stanger50 (Member # 1665) on :
 
i had a blacked out vic with pa system, strobes and siren with amber lights and i didnt get fucked with. no red and blue lights and dont try to pull people over and you'll be good.

i used to run hunters point and sunnydale all day long. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
hahaha
 
Posted by SlowFiveOh94 (Member # 2404) on :
 
Why would you want to? It wouldn't even look good. [Confused]
 
Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :
 
Here is more:

quote:
27604. When a motor vehicle, painted, as required by Section 40800,
and formerly used in the enforcement of the provisions of Division
10 (commencing with Section 20000) or 11 (commencing with Section
21000), is sold to any person and is used for purposes other than law
enforcement, the vehicle shall be painted or partially painted by
the seller or agency formerly using such vehicle so that it will no
longer resemble a vehicle complying with Section 40800 and any
insignia or other marking of the vehicle identifying it as a traffic
law enforcement vehicle shall be removed by the seller or agency
formerly using such vehicle before it shall be operated on any street
or highway, other than to have the vehicle moved to be painted or to
a place of storage.
The provisions of this section do not apply to former law
enforcement vehicles, without insignia, which are painted one solid
color, or which are used exclusively for movie or television
production and display signs stating "movie car" prominently on the
doors, or which are motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without
insignia.


27605. No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle painted in
the manner described in Section 40800 to resemble a motor vehicle
used by a peace officer or traffic officer on duty for the primary
purpose of enforcing the provisions of Division 10 (commencing with
Section 20000) or Division 11 (commencing with Section 21000)
pursuant to Section 40800.
The provisions of this section shall not apply to vehicles which
are painted one solid color or to vehicles first registered on or
before January 1, 1979. These provisions shall not apply to vehicles
which are any of the following:
(a) Owned by vehicle manufacturers or dealers.
(b) Used by law enforcement agencies in the enforcement of the
provisions of Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division
11 (commencing with Section 21000).
(c) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively
for movie or television production and display signs stating "movie
car" prominently on the doors.
(d) Owned by persons or companies who use the vehicles exclusively
for funeral escort purposes.
(e) Motorcycles, as defined in Section 400, without insignia.


27606. (a) No person shall own or operate a motor vehicle which is
equipped with a light bar, or facsimile thereof, to resemble a motor
vehicle used by a peace officer or traffic officer while on duty
within that jurisdiction for the primary purpose of enforcing
Division 10 (commencing with Section 20000) or Division 11
(commencing with Section 21000) pursuant to Section 40800.
(b) For purposes of this section the following definitions apply:

(1) A "light bar" means any light or device affixed to or mounted
upon the roof of a vehicle and extending the width of the roof, or a
substantial portion thereof, which emits amber, red, or blue, or any
combination of those lights.
(2) A "facsimile of a light bar" is any device designed or
contrived to resemble a light bar regardless of the degree of light
emission or lack thereof.



 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SlowFiveOh94:
Why would you want to? It wouldn't even look good. [Confused]

because I like the way it looks and i dnt care what other people think [Wink]
 
Posted by Kaindia50 (Member # 5174) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
i cant find the article but in the past few years a guy painted his new mustang to immitate the Saleen from Transformers, decals and all. Local police complained and actually took the guy to court, where the judges went against police saying his car violated no codes.
Wish i could find the article [Confused]

i think you were talkin about this 1 rite

http://www.autounleashed.com/guy-paints-car-like-police-cruiser-officials-are-ok-with-it


Vegas Man Paints Car Like Police Cruiser
LAS VEGAS (AP) ― Jessie Vigil's black-and-white car sports a red-and-blue emergency bar across the top and the word "police" painted on the doors. Vigil, however, isn't a cop. Law enforcement agencies say what he's done with his car isn't illegal as long as he doesn't act like a police officer.

He started decorating his 2007 Ford Mustang last summer to look like the police cruiser in the "Transformers" movie because his 7-year-old son, Thomas, was fond of the film.

"My intent was to re-create the movie car," said Vigil, a 35-year-old disabled veteran from the war in Iraq. "When I came back from Iraq, I tried to spoil him. I wasn't the best dad before."

He said he called the district attorney's office beforehand and spoke to Chief Deputy District Attorney Joe Ulibarri, who tried to discourage his decorating scheme but couldn't find anything in the law that would stop Vigil as long as he didn't impersonate an officer.

Ulibarri said a state law prevents people from mimicking state police cars, which are painted black and white. But he also said the state police sell their old cars to private citizens without changing the colors.

"Are we violating our own law by not repainting them?" he asked.

He called the state law vague, and noted that normal state police cars aren't Mustangs.

"I don't think this guy has any intent to mimic a state police officer," Ulibarri said. "I'm not hearing that he is causing a problem and arresting people."

A close look shows Vigil's car isn't a police cruiser. Instead of the familiar slogan "To protect and serve," it carries a motto: "To punish and enslave" on the side. Instead of telling people to dial 911 for emergencies, the Mustang advises them to "dial 411 for theater information."

He originally marked his car, "Transformers police" but later changed it to just "police." He also added what appears to be a bar of emergency lights, but said they're not actual lights.

Vigil acknowledged people have mixed feelings about his car.

State police Capt. Craig Martin said the agency is "concerned for the safety of people who think he is an officer and think they may get help from him.

"People around town know who he is, but not those people on the interstate."
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
that was it [patriot]
 
Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :
 
I think Geek Sqad had some issue with this issue. Thay had to black out all their doors. I would like to get a CHP SSP someday and completely restore it. I would make it all white though so it can be driven on the road without being harassed.
You could alway check out ssp.org, and Im sure you can find info on there.
 
Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on :
 
yeah the geek squad had to paint their doors black for all of their cali cars b/c they looked like chp cars.
dunno why you would waqnt to paint your ca rlike that unless it is a real ssp. if it isn't people will laugh at you. i know i would.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
Man, I say as long as its legal do what makes you happy.
 
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 4347) on :
 
my friend had gotten a ticket for having white doors and was forced to paint it.

i was glad though cuz it was not a real ssp car anyways.
 
Posted by Hozr (Member # 6196) on :
 
So Ford is on violation for every white, black, or silver Crown Vic they sell?

I call BS. There are plenty of out there that look like "Police" cars. Mustangs aren't even used as police cars anymore so how could they get you for it resembling a police car. Go for it
 
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
call your local DMV. they should be able to tell you.

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this guy lives in nevada, when he comes to cali, he has magnets that say "patrol" on them, because he cant have the word "police" on the car
 
Posted by 8stang8 (Member # 8082) on :
 
PAINT the doors white!!! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Bro if u wanna run the risk of painting your car like a prior police vehicle then be prepared to deal with all the associated headaches. And u would want to make sure all ur shit is in order when/if u get stopped. Cuz if its not then they are probably gonna toss ur shit on the racks and take it to the impound.

If ur car is not a daily driver and u got the funds for a lawyer then do it. Cuz some cops might find it cool and others won't. But if u drive that thing everyday and don't drive like a grandma u will probably get popped cuz its gonna stand out.

Just don't come on here complaining if ur shit gets towed or they place a stop on ur vehicles registration until u get it repainted.

Just my 2
 
Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels [patriot]
 
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
based on the way u drive, and teh car you drive, you'll get your shit towed with the quickness
 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels [patriot]

i was thinkin black bullits with a chrome lip..or some 96 cobras..i really like those...well my car wont be off to paint for another month er 2 so ill have time to think about it...thanks everyone for the info and opinions [Smile]
 
Posted by kingroy (Member # 7736) on :
 


[ October 21, 2008, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: kingroy ]
 
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jaejae:
quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels [patriot]

i was thinkin black bullits with a chrome lip..or some 96 cobras..i really like those...well my car wont be off to paint for another month er 2 so ill have time to think about it...thanks everyone for the info and opinions [Smile]
it isnt a chrome lip. its polished aluminum
 
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by solbrothers:
quote:
Originally posted by jaejae:
quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Oh and BTW I think it would look sick lowered on some 10th anniversay wheels [patriot]

i was thinkin black bullits with a chrome lip..or some 96 cobras..i really like those...well my car wont be off to paint for another month er 2 so ill have time to think about it...thanks everyone for the info and opinions [Smile]
it isnt a chrome lip. its polished aluminum
Its neither of those...Its actually a machined lip....
 
Posted by solbrothers (Member # 7524) on :
 
werd, you are probably right. im just going off honda wheels, wehre tehy are polished
 
Posted by TR1 (Member # 296) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jaejae:
if i painted my coupe black with white doors and a white roof would i be gettin harrased by police because of it?

You would not get harrassed, its illegal. you would get a ticket and the attention of every cop you passed. [Cool]
 




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