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Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Yeah.

Im thinking about selling all my pushrod shit except my turbo and building a 4 valve mod motor to put in my car.

Just ranting....been to 1 million pages looking into mod motor shit....WOW.....they are amazing...

Any good exploded view diagrams of the timing chain and gear setup on a 4.6 4 valve motor anywhere??
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
hey i got a long block for ya. lmk
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
I dont know enough about them yet to know where to start, plus I would be working backwards my car is close to coming together with the windsor in it and I only want to run 10.50s anyway.

stock longblocks can do that
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
i'm sure i'll still have mine when ur ready lol
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
I've been toying with the idea of dropping in a 4v DOHC 4.6 in my '95 GT. Since it's 99% stock (just lowered with MAC cat-back).

Not sure, at the same time I'd like to just build the 5.0 seeing as how I have absolutely no experience with the modular motors.
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:

Just ranting....been to 1 million pages looking into mod motor shit....WOW.....they are amazing...
Amazing and expensive. I agree, after having several pushrod motors a 32V DOHC is awesome. Look at the 03-04 Cobra, with a few mods people are seeing 500+ HP with 281 cubic inches!
 
Posted by FoX GT (Member # 4587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Any good exploded view diagrams of the timing chain and gear setup on a 4.6 4 valve motor anywhere??
Something like this? [patriot]
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I resized this for the web and have a bigger version if you need.

[ January 29, 2008, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: FoX GT ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
yeah! thanks man I needed that!

you think it would be the same timing setup on a 2000 lincoln continental with a 4.6 4valve motor?
 
Posted by FoX GT (Member # 4587) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
yeah! thanks man I needed that!

you think it would be the same timing setup on a 2000 lincoln continental with a 4.6 4valve motor?
Similar enough. Beauty of modulars [patriot] Don't worry, there are plenty of us with modular experience that can help you along the way.
 
Posted by Thirteen Twenty (Member # 7961) on :
 
You can't ignore the future, I love 426 hemi's but the new 5.7(345) is 80 lbs. lighter than a 318, and with headers and a K&N makes 500hp. Just dosen't make sense to build the old stuff unless it's for personnel reasons. Same thing with mod motors the only drawback is the expense.
 
Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :
 
Are you court9155 on norcal1320?

[ January 29, 2008, 11:11 PM: Message edited by: cummins ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cummins:
Are you court9155 on norcal1320?
Yup
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
yeah! thanks man I needed that!

you think it would be the same timing setup on a 2000 lincoln continental with a 4.6 4valve motor?
yes it would, the continental really only differs in the block as it mates to a FWD tranny.

I used a lincoln mark8 motor in my `97 and it's basically an aluminum block, with a SOHC rotating assembly (6 bolt flywheel vs 8 bolt for DOHC cobra's), with B cobra heads, and slightly different cams. With a cobra intake and exhaust setup on it, the car made 259.9rwhp on a dynojet with a really crappy tune (SCT pre-packaged tune for a 96-98 4-valve).
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
yeah! thanks man I needed that!

you think it would be the same timing setup on a 2000 lincoln continental with a 4.6 4valve motor?
yes it would, the continental really only differs in the block as it mates to a FWD tranny.

I used a lincoln mark8 motor in my `97 and it's basically an aluminum block, with a SOHC rotating assembly (6 bolt flywheel vs 8 bolt for DOHC cobra's), with B cobra heads, and slightly different cams. With a cobra intake and exhaust setup on it, the car made 259.9rwhp on a dynojet with a really crappy tune (SCT pre-packaged tune for a 96-98 4-valve).
What is the down side of using the 6 bolt rotating assembly?

This motor has "C" heads on it as I understand that offer a little better low lift flow numbers.

Are the pistons hyper or cast or???

What is the desired block to use for say a goal of 700hp?
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
yeah! thanks man I needed that!

you think it would be the same timing setup on a 2000 lincoln continental with a 4.6 4valve motor?
yes it would, the continental really only differs in the block as it mates to a FWD tranny.

I used a lincoln mark8 motor in my `97 and it's basically an aluminum block, with a SOHC rotating assembly (6 bolt flywheel vs 8 bolt for DOHC cobra's), with B cobra heads, and slightly different cams. With a cobra intake and exhaust setup on it, the car made 259.9rwhp on a dynojet with a really crappy tune (SCT pre-packaged tune for a 96-98 4-valve).
What is the down side of using the 6 bolt rotating assembly?

This motor has "C" heads on it as I understand that offer a little better low lift flow numbers.

Are the pistons hyper or cast or???

What is the desired block to use for say a goal of 700hp?
Any of the mod blocks should work fine with that power level, the aluminum block in the mark8 and sn95 cobra's is arguably the best one, it's the teksid italian block.

the 6 bolt assembly in my mark8 motor is the same as the assembly found in the SOHC motors, ie. shitty rods and hyper pistons.

plus side for me was it bolted right up to my GT's flywheel and clutch, I just threw a pilot bearing in it and everything worked perfectly.

minus would be it's not expected to live long over 350ish rwhp, but that's above my immediate goals for the car as a daily driver.
 
Posted by happygmore (Member # 7159) on :
 
building a mod motor is not cheap! i dont know how serious you want to be but there is not a lot of companies that can properly support you so that brings the cost up HIGH!

If your looking for 700hp then look at a 03/04 cobra longblock, do not touch it and just throw a sullivan or 99-01 cobra intake on it and call it the day with your desired turbo.

The strongest block that the mod motors have are the 96-98 teskid motors that came in cobras. Downside to those motors is that they are b heads and there is not many intakes to match those, not that the stock one is bad but with a lil work it can do wonders. also the heads are great but some will argue the tumble port design in the c heads, its all personal choice and be prepared to spend a pretty penny if you want a "custom" set up because 32 valves , 4 cams, and 1 off parts can come expensive.

like i said my reccomendation would be a 03-04 longblock.

also the cobra motors 96-04 come with a 8 bolt forged crank vs. the mark8 6 bolt non forged crank.

talk to mark at modular mustangs or even shaun at AED, they seem to be the go to guys i would trust for this stuff.

i do not know how badass of a setup you want, as thier are many options with the ignition also, distributor, coil on plug, or dis4.

also hydroboost is used for brakes on these cars unless you want to convert to manual steering.

so many things that add up that if it was me....haha your not me, so i cant tell you want ninja stuff i am doing. good luck!
 




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