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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
I will be get my car back in a few weeks and was wondering what kinda #s I should expect? I have a 93 Mustang with the following mods


Forged 347
AFR 185's
RPM 2 intake
75mm TB
90mm maf
Anderson N/A power pipe
1 5/8 longtubes
catless x pipe
30lb injectors
custom cam- 242/248 112lsa 585 lift
255lph fuel pump
a bunch of other minor bolt ons

Whoever predicts the closest #s get some nachos at sac raceway on me LOL

[ December 20, 2007, 11:49 PM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
372rwhp

i just want the nachos
 

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Posted by GreyLX (Member # 5601) on :
 
Compression ratio??


 

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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
I have seen 410 RWHP & 410 RWTQ with the same setup with 10:1 compression.
 

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Posted by Daniel50 (Member # 5629) on :
 
im saying 385 on a DYNOJET.
 

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Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :
 
thats quite a camshaft
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
fucked up....... changing it to 418 rwhp and thats my final answer

[ December 06, 2007, 05:23 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
395/400
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
T-5, TKO, AOD, I do not make it to Sac much these days,and with the price of gass I could use the free nacho's when I get there lol.
I am very interested in the numbers because we just built a very simular combo for a local guy. he is running a TKO in a 94 cobra. No Dyno #'s yet it is geared for NOS and with a messed up tune, fouled 4 plugs (which will be taken care of) went 12.02 at 113. Sould be solid 11's when the tune is corrrect and who knows when the NOS is used.

But I will guess anyhow 370 HP and 388 TQ

[ December 21, 2007, 06:03 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
T-5, TKO, AOD, I do not make it to Sac much these days,and with the price of gass I could use the free nacho's when I get there lol.
I am very interested in the numbers because we just built a very simular combo for a local guy. he is running a TKO in a 94 cobra. No Dyno #'s yet it is geared for NOS and with a messed up tune, fouled 4 plugs (which will be taken care of) went 12.02 at 113. Sould be solid 11's when the tune is corrrect and who knows when the NOS is used.

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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344 ....... my guess is 385

edit: damn someone already has 385 ... umm 390

[ December 06, 2007, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: Pure Stang ]
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by threethirty1:
thats quite a camshaft

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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If it only made that much I would be sad! I am hoping for atleast 370 or so

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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If it only made that much I would be sad! I am hoping for atleast 370 or so

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i seen people make almost that much with cobra intakes small cams and afrs....so 370+ is no problem

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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If it only made that much I would be sad! I am hoping for atleast 370 or so

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i seen people make almost that much with cobra intakes small cams and afrs

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Yea only some. not that many . 302 hci, only good numbers ive heard of around here was i believe seans fox 93pony. 302 h/c/i with stock block/ Basic tune ive seen people do around 280-320 hp. But i do belive eastbay50 can hit 400. Nextgen in hayward pulled some good numbers on a 347 h/c/i. dynod around 400hp My opinion, who cares, Real numbers are at the Track Does it have a tune already? i say with tune/chip 390hp? good luck man!

[ December 07, 2007, 01:39 AM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 

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Posted by Jessie P (Member # 7073) on :
 
I had on my old fox a real simliar setup only differnce I had a347 A4, ported RPM upper and lower on a 114 with my cam 11.1 compression I made 406rwhp at 419 rwtq through a built tremec. God I miss that car so much.. You have a more aggressive cam plus I dont know how well the RPM 2's flow compaired to the regular RPM. I had the AFR 185's all the good bolt on's including longtubes when I dyno'd those numbers at APEX. I then swapped my cam when I threw on my Novi 2000. This was awhile ago however. Im going to throw out you make 413 rwhp on 422 rwtq.
 

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Posted by Jessie P (Member # 7073) on :
 
BTW post some pics up of the beast!
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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If it only made that much I would be sad! I am hoping for atleast 370 or so

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i seen people make almost that much with cobra intakes small cams and afrs

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Yea only some. not that many . 302 hci, only good numbers ive heard of around here was i believe seans fox 93pony. 302 h/c/i with stock block/ Basic tune ive seen people do around 280-320 hp. But i do belive eastbay50 can hit 400. Nextgen in hayward pulled some good numbers on a 347 h/c/i. dynod around 400hp My opinion, who cares, Real numbers are at the Track Does it have a tune already? i say with tune/chip 390hp? good luck man!

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It had a tune from its previous combo. I planned on putting it on the dyno and messing with the timing and fuel pressure a little and make sure the A/F was safe then i was going to do a custom tune very soon afterwards. I am not sure where i should take it to quite yet though.

[ December 07, 2007, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: East Bay 50 ]
 

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Posted by BURNOUT50 (Member # 6781) on :
 
my uncle has an almost identicle motor! 410hp. he said he wants to go full 3" exhaust next.
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
Well, I will post the results up in a couple of weeks! Alot of folks seem to think I will get around or over 400rwhp. Wish me luck I cant"t wait to drive it down the 1/4 mile
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 

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Originally posted by threethirty1:
thats quite a camshaft

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Originally posted by vpr_klr:

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Originally posted by threethirty1:
thats quite a camshaft

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THAT'S FUCKING HUGE CAM FOR THAT MOTOR. WOW!

I SAY 370 ON A DYNOJET.

THAT CAM SEEMS LIKE IT WILL KILL THAT MOTOR.

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My wife's 442RWHP 347 has a cam that measures 248/245 on a 110LSA....& it's small compared to Yellow94GT's.
& yes, it does kill power down low. She only made 395RWTQ...but you don't even notice it with 4.30's.
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
343 RWHP. my final answer!!!

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If it only made that much I would be sad! I am hoping for atleast 370 or so

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i seen people make almost that much with cobra intakes small cams and afrs

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Yea only some. not that many . 302 hci, only good numbers ive heard of around here was i believe seans fox 93pony. 302 h/c/i with stock block/ Basic tune ive seen people do around 280-320 hp. But i do belive eastbay50 can hit 400. Nextgen in hayward pulled some good numbers on a 347 h/c/i. dynod around 400hp My opinion, who cares, Real numbers are at the Track Does it have a tune already? i say with tune/chip 390hp? good luck man!

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what up stranger! speakin of numbers we gotta talk
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 

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Originally posted by threethirty1:
thats quite a camshaft

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THAT'S FUCKING HUGE CAM FOR THAT MOTOR. WOW!

I SAY 370 ON A DYNOJET.

THAT CAM SEEMS LIKE IT WILL KILL THAT MOTOR.

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My wife's 442RWHP 347 has a cam that measures 248/245 on a 110LSA....& it's small compared to Yellow94GT's.
& yes, it does kill power down low. She only made 395RWTQ...but you don't even notice it with 4.30's.

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yea but you guys run ported victor stuff. not 185's and rpm 2's.
 

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Posted by 2stang (Member # 4237) on :
 
Whats the duration @ .050 on yellow94gt's cam?
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
^^^lol good luck with that question.
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
Well I took my car to Force Fed today and was able to put down 370rwhp and I believe 388TQ I might have some possible valve float issues and my Rockers may need to be adjusted because it looks like they are hitting the valve covers or are possibly not adjusted properly. peak power is at 5800rpm for some reason The car does feel pretty fun drive and it definately moves out! All in all not that bad for a fully loaded GT with A/C and all the other accesories. hell I don't even have an electric fan LOL! maybe when I take care of those issues power will increase a little. So it looks like I owe VPRKLR some nachos
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
nice numbers!
 

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Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 2973) on :
 

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Well I took my car to Force Fed today and was able to put down 370rwhp and I believe 388TQ I might have some possible valve float issues and my Rockers may need to be adjusted because it looks like they are hitting the valve covers or are possibly not adjusted properly. peak power is at 5800rpm for some reason

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nice #'s! if ur runnin the 185's out tha box, then for surely, u will experience valve float. upgrade them springs. that cam is too big for them. i think those springs are only good till .550 lift... also i'd run 1 3/4" long tubes & 3" exhaust

few q's for ya:
what compression is ur motor?
58cc heads?
stock computer or tuned?

[ December 21, 2007, 05:05 AM: Message edited by: STREETFIGHTER50 ]
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
what re-read my post I guessed it exactly lol (we are talking nachos here all is fair)
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Well I took my car to Force Fed today and was able to put down 370rwhp and I believe 388TQ I might have some possible valve float issues and my Rockers may need to be adjusted because it looks like they are hitting the valve covers or are possibly not adjusted properly. peak power is at 5800rpm for some reason

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nice #'s! if ur runnin the 185's out tha box, then for surely, u will experience valve float. upgrade them springs. that cam is too big for them. i think those springs are only good till .550 lift... also i'd run 1 3/4" long tubes & 3" exhaust

few q's for ya:
what compression is ur motor?
58cc heads?
stock computer or tuned?

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what re-read my post I guessed it exactly lol (we are talking nachos here all is fair)

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LOL!
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:
Well I took my car to Force Fed today and was able to put down 370rwhp and I believe 388TQ I might have some possible valve float issues and my Rockers may need to be adjusted because it looks like they are hitting the valve covers or are possibly not adjusted properly. peak power is at 5800rpm for some reason The car does feel pretty fun drive and it definately moves out! All in all not that bad for a fully loaded GT with A/C and all the other accesories. hell I don't even have an electric fan LOL! maybe when I take care of those issues power will increase a little. So it looks like I owe VPRKLR some nachos

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Originally posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX':
Thats not all that bad. I made 360hp 370TQ with my 331 we thinnk it is 10:1, XE 274 cam, Untouched box stock victor intake and Victors jr's. 1 3/4 headers and 3" exhuast, and I ran it through a 3550. Had valve float too. I will get it back together one day. Bigger cam, better springs, port matching, and maybe more comp.

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Yeah, I know I can get more power out of it if i change out my 1 5/8 longtubes and go with a 3 inch exhaust. I do plan on checking my pushrods and rockers though. I will focus on all that stuff in a couple of months. i remember seeing your car at the track, It was a nice setup you had
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
We've seen 410/410 with un-ported AFR185's, a custom camshaft (reverse-split), & RPM2 intake.

You do need to think about an electric fan.
917 valvesprings are what we use on Yellow94GT's 347 & my wife's 347 & have no issues till MUCH higher than what you're seeing. AFR's 'upgraded' valvespring kit sucks ass...if that's what you have. & If you're using 917's you would have had to have the valve pocket the AFR's enlarged since they are setup for a 1.46" OD valvespring & 917's are 1.55" OD. 917's also have enough open pressure when setup at 1.900" installed height to collapse a stock lifter. 917's are for mild solid-roller camshafts.

If you have 3/8th rocker studs that will be another cause for concern. As are aluminum rockers unless they are large-body rockers (like scorpians), but nothing is better than a steel rocker arm like Comps Hitech & Pro-Magnums.

Valvefloat will kill motors FAST if you have tight Piston to Valve clearance. Seen it too many times. I'd highly recomend taking care of the issue before racing this car. According to Tony McCurty at Comp (really knows his valvetrains), if you've floated the valves more than 1 or 2 times, the heads should have a valvejob & you should replace the valvelocks. They get beat up FAST.

I'm actually in the process of upgrading the wife's valvesprings again. The 917's have seen better days & she needs a little more pressure (in the right area) with her new 4130 Chromoly .120" wall pushrods. (heavy)

BTW, Yellow94GT's cam card states 248/248 108LSA....but that is NOT what it degreed in at. LOL
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
1 & 5/8th primaries can not 'swallow' the width of an AFR exhaust port.....165 or 185.
Even when you port the crap out of the primary....just too damn wide.

Even most 1 &3/4 longtubes need porting to swallow the AFR exhaust port.
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
We've seen 410/410 with un-ported AFR185's, a custom camshaft (reverse-split), & RPM2 intake.

You do need to think about an electric fan.
917 valvesprings are what we use on Yellow94GT's 347 & my wife's 347 & have no issues till MUCH higher than what you're seeing. AFR's 'upgraded' valvespring kit sucks ass...if that's what you have. & If you're using 917's you would have had to have the valve pocket the AFR's enlarged since they are setup for a 1.46" OD valvespring & 917's are 1.55" OD. 917's also have enough open pressure when setup at 1.900" installed height to collapse a stock lifter. 917's are for mild solid-roller camshafts.

If you have 3/8th rocker studs that will be another cause for concern. As are aluminum rockers unless they are large-body rockers (like scorpians), but nothing is better than a steel rocker arm like Comps Hitech & Pro-Magnums.

Valvefloat will kill motors FAST if you have tight Piston to Valve clearance. Seen it too many times. I'd highly recomend taking care of the issue before racing this car. According to Tony McCurty at Comp (really knows his valvetrains), if you've floated the valves more than 1 or 2 times, the heads should have a valvejob & you should replace the valvelocks. They get beat up FAST.

I'm actually in the process of upgrading the wife's valvesprings again. The 917's have seen better days & she needs a little more pressure (in the right area) with her new 4130 Chromoly .120" wall pushrods. (heavy)

BTW, Yellow94GT's cam card states 248/248 108LSA....but that is NOT what it degreed in at. LOL

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:
nice numbers!

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what re-read my post I guessed it exactly lol (we are talking nachos here all is fair)

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suck that it shows u edited the post doesnt it?
 

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
The only time I've had an electric fan equiped 5.0 overheat is when the fan did not come on. (faulty relay)

I would highly recomend an electric fan. I'm even thinking about an electric water pump for the wife's GT which is worth another 10+hp....but at a cost of over $500 for the one that works with the heater core....but we're already stressing the stock block....the car doesn't really need more power. LOL

Definately upgrade to 7/16th rockers/studs. I'd recomend Comp ProMagnums or HiTech(expensive). Aftermarket lifters are no better than stock unless they've been modified. Some Comp lifters come modified correctly (like what we run in my wife's & Yellow94GT's 347's). If you have modified lifters, you can run VERY stiff valvesprings provided you do not go overboard on open pressure (the camshaft can only take so much pressure).

The first time my wife's 347 was strapped down to FFP's dyno it put out 422RWHP & 388RWTQ. We found another 20hp from maximizing the combination. (valvetrain & cam swap). You can pop up over 400RWHP from changing a few parts.....& still keep that killer 388RWTQ.

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Originally posted by East Bay 50:

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
The only time I've had an electric fan equiped 5.0 overheat is when the fan did not come on. (faulty relay)

I would highly recomend an electric fan. I'm even thinking about an electric water pump for the wife's GT which is worth another 10+hp....but at a cost of over $500 for the one that works with the heater core....but we're already stressing the stock block....the car doesn't really need more power. LOL

Definately upgrade to 7/16th rockers/studs. I'd recomend Comp ProMagnums or HiTech(expensive). Aftermarket lifters are no better than stock unless they've been modified. Some Comp lifters come modified correctly (like what we run in my wife's & Yellow94GT's 347's). If you have modified lifters, you can run VERY stiff valvesprings provided you do not go overboard on open pressure (the camshaft can only take so much pressure).

The first time my wife's 347 was strapped down to FFP's dyno it put out 422RWHP & 388RWTQ. We found another 20hp from maximizing the combination. (valvetrain & cam swap). You can pop up over 400RWHP from changing a few parts.....& still keep that killer 388RWTQ.

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upgrade the rockers since my ford motorsport ones might not be cuttin it LOL!

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scoprions or comp
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
what re-read my post I guessed it exactly lol (we are talking nachos here all is fair)

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suck that it shows u edited the post doesnt it?

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