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Originally posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep*:
Got damn those patrol cars are slow... but iono about that one. even if it was a high speed chase i dont think poppin shots point blank at the suspect is necessary unless they opened fire first. ima show this video in my class tomorrow and ask my professor about it

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Originally posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep*:
Got damn those patrol cars are slow... but iono about that one. even if it was a high speed chase i dont think poppin shots point blank at the suspect is necessary unless they opened fire first. ima show this video in my class tomorrow and ask my professor about it

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most times id agree, expect there was an officer on the hood to attempt to stop them, they still started to drive off, that puts his life in danger, i would let of 2 rounds at least... just my .02

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Originally posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep*:
Got damn those patrol cars are slow... but iono about that one. even if it was a high speed chase i dont think poppin shots point blank at the suspect is necessary unless they opened fire first. ima show this video in my class tomorrow and ask my professor about it

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totally justified in this incident. Assuming they were all in Crown Vic's yes they get beat on and worn out. You can't always just stay with somebody you still have to drive with due regard for public safety, clearing intersections, speed/conditions, etc.
 

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Posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep* (Member # 6216) on :
 
Usually when a chase is that dangerous they will end it. But that late at night on open roads they could have at least attempted spike strips or a pit maneuver. Lethal force should be a last resort in my opinion. Plus him jumpin on the hood was a bad idea when they could have easily shot out the tires. He won't probably get in any trouble because he can say he was in fear of severe bodily harm or death but jumping on the hood of a fleeing car 2 stop it was wreckless IMO. But that person was killed based on the officers actions. I've seen and heard of worse chases ending without a loss of life. But like I said its my opinion, ima try to show both my professors to see what they say
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
looks like the cops had a couple of opportunities to ram him and pin the car, but chose otherwise. I think he used excessive force. Maybe 1 or 2 shots but dude was dumpin on him. why/how a cop would end up on the hood is strange as well. Is that a normal maneuver? Not sure where I stand on this one, unfortunate a life was lost. But was it necessary?
 

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Posted by mustanghp950 (Member # 6589) on :
 
that belongs in bad boys or die hard
 

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Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
holy shit that looks like something straight out of grand theft auto
 

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Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
haha that was some good shit. why do people always run in cars that can never get away? crown vics only go 128 mph in cop trim.
and after he rammed/ got rammed the first time he should of stoped. he used his car as a deadly weapon, and the cop used his gun.
 

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Posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep* (Member # 6216) on :
 

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Originally posted by warhorse58gt:
haha that was some good shit. why do people always run in cars that can never get away? crown vics only go 128 mph in cop trim.
and after he rammed/ got rammed the first time he should of stoped. he used his car as a deadly weapon, and the cop used his gun.

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He might be able to say assault with a deadly weapon on the suspects part but I don't remember seein him tryna hit the cop. I saw the cop willingly jump on the hood and do some real bruce willis stunt. But I gota see the vid again. Damn I can't wait till class........
 

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Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on :
 
That cop is nuts for jumping on the hood like that
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Ya, I see it being over done. The cop imo went beyond what was called for by getting on the hood. Like others said, why not shoot the tires out, box the car in, instead of ramming it that last time. Heat of the moment people get too caught up in their actions. Especially after 4 minutes.
 

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Posted by racercosmo (Member # 1864) on :
 
It's very easy to avoid that. Don't make the cops chase you for 4 minutes.
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by PWR HNGRY 302:
That cop is nuts for jumping on the hood like that

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"A third officer was struck by the car as it lunged forward.

He was slammed onto the car's roof and then fired additional shots into the car to get it to stop"
Doesnt appear that he jumped on the hood...
 

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Posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner (Member # 6100) on :
 
damn i was waiting for:

"Ghostride the whip, ghostride the whip"
 

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Posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep* (Member # 6216) on :
 
i showed one of my criminal justice teachers that works for chp and he said it kinda falls into what kinda policy that department has on the use of force and conduct. And where the debate comes in is whether the cop or should or should not have been on the hood of the car. plus i realize its real eazy to jugde someones actions when your not in the middle of it. & im not sure if the first time shots were fired the suspect fired first. if he did then at that point the dudes in the monte carlo were screwed. but if they didnt then i still think what the cop did was excessive force. but i guess my teacher wants to go into detali about it in a later class session. extra credit for me
 

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Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on :
 

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Originally posted by T-Wash * formerly 50 Deep*:
i showed one of my criminal justice teachers that works for chp and he said it kinda falls into what kinda policy that department has on the use of force and conduct. And where the debate comes in is whether the cop or should or should not have been on the hood of the car. plus i realize its real eazy to jugde someones actions when your not in the middle of it. & im not sure if the first time shots were fired the suspect fired first. if he did then at that point the dudes in the monte carlo were screwed. but if they didnt then i still think what the cop did was excessive force. but i guess my teacher wants to go into detali about it in a later class session. extra credit for me

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