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Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

Well I was hoping to crack 400rwhp but today wasn't the day. I did manage 381rhwp @ 5100rpm and 401ft/tq @ 4600rpm. All runs were at 19psi on a Mustang Dyno and I was able to drive her home as nothing broke [Smile]

Converted to flywheel horsepower I'm looking around the 475/500hp range and about 550rw/tq. I was hoping to split the block in half by trying to make more boost but the turbo wouldn't make for than 19psi.

I want to give a special thanks to Robs Machine Shop in Hayward, Ca as there were some technical glitches when I first got on the dyno and at first I thought I wasn't going to be able to run my car. But as they were unstrapping the car because they didn't think they were going to get the dyno working properly they fixed the problem and I was able to make my runs.

I have video but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it up. Here are some pics:

Posted by Black 02 SS (Member # 5939) on :

19psi on a stock bottom end? Niiiiice, and it didnt blow up!

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

very nice... congrats [patriot]

Posted by phat50 (Member # 1998) on :

Very impressive, congrats. [patriot]

[ August 02, 2007, 04:00 AM: Message edited by: phat50 ]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

Thanks guys [patriot]

Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :

What size turbo?

at 19 psi you are probably creatibg heat instead of power. You might make more power at 14psi.

Eric

PS when you get a chance look up the flow chart. I am pretty positive that turbo will be way out of its effecincy range at that PSI with the CFM requirments of a V8

Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :

Stock HGs??

Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :

PS looks awsome B&G turbo kit I presume.

Posted by 95slow50 (Member # 2804) on :

Nice... any aftermarket h/c/i?

Posted by GreyLX (Member # 5601) on :

You should be making waaaay more than that @ 19 lbs.

[Confused]

Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :

stock engine?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
What size turbo?

at 19 psi you are probably creatibg heat instead of power. You might make more power at 14psi.

Eric

PS when you get a chance look up the flow chart. I am pretty positive that turbo will be way out of its effecincy range at that PSI with the CFM requirments of a V8

Sorry guys I don't know how to answer multiple quotes in the same reply so I'll answer each question one by one.

It's a T-67 and to be a 100% honest I'm not sure anymore of what wheels are in it but when I went from 15psi to 19psi there was a big seat of the pants feel when driving the car. If I would have up the boost and not felt anything different I would have put it back to 15psi. I think I gained about 50hp from adding 4psi.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Stock HGs??

Yes. The motor is all factory ford from the throttle body to the oil pan with 165k on it.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
PS looks awsome B&G turbo kit I presume.

No it's a system I put together. It consists of:

1 5/8" JBA Headers turned around
2 1/2" crossover
3" Downpipe
44mm Tial Wastegate
E-bay intercooler
Summit 3" and 2.5" Steel piping for all the intake plumbing

I did copy there design though [Smile]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 95slow50:
Nice... any aftermarket h/c/i?

No it's all stock Ford parts

Posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner (Member # 6100) on :

wow so you just slapped on a turbo? great numbers i guess

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by GreyLX:
You should be making waaaay more than that @ 19 lbs.

Dyno numbers are different from dyno to dyno. Mustang dynos read lower numbers but I prefer to use them because they provide a true load to the engine when making a pull. I could have gone on a dynojet and made bigger numbers but my boost would come in way later and it's not a very good tool to get a close baseline for the street. I'm not bashing on other dynos but in my opinion a mustang dyno will get a tune the closest to a real world simulation.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner:
wow so you just slapped on a turbo? great numbers i guess

I wish it was that easy [Wink]

Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :

ive read on turbomustangs people making over 600rwhp on completely stock engines and smaller turbos...hmmm, maybe they used a different type of dyno, also is your car auto? maybe you lost some hp there...stil nice set up tho... [worship]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by GreyLX:
You should be making waaaay more than that @ 19 lbs.

Also just wanted to say that I'm running a lentech AOD also which robs alot more horsepower than a 5-speed.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by onesicklx:
ive read on turbomustangs people making over 600rwhp on completely stock engines and smaller turbos...hmmm, maybe they used a different type of dyno, also is your car auto? maybe you lost some hp there...stil nice set up tho...

That was where I got the idea for my project. I was going to build a 331/AFR heads/R302/blah,blah,blah but I decided to try and grenade the stock motor and see if I could make the numbers those guys claimed. I think if they were on certain dynos and running through a 5-speed that the numbers they claim are a possibility. But dyno numbers are one thing. If the car can go to the track and run a ET or mph that matches with what the dyno says then it's all good. But if all they have is dyno numbers, your not really proving anything.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

Here are some buildup pics:

Posted by GreyLX (Member # 5601) on :

Gotcha, makes more sense now. You would prolly gain a whole lot of everything with some nice heads and intake.

[Big Grin]

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

Good #'s. Lockup or non lock converter?

Posted by 95slow50 (Member # 2804) on :

damn those are some good numbers for such a high mileage stock 5.0L. where do you buy that stuff you wrap your headers/piping at?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
Good #'s. Lockup or non lock converter?

10" non-lockup

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 95slow50:
damn those are some good numbers for such a high mileage stock 5.0L. where do you buy that stuff you wrap your headers/piping at?

Thanks! Summit sells all of it. It's under "heat wrap" I believe or it's in the ignition section of the catalog.

Posted by 95slow50 (Member # 2804) on :

cool... thanks mang

Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :

Yuo do the fabbing yourself?

Posted by BOSS IS BACK (Member # 4347) on :

stock heads and intake. that explains the 19 psi

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
Yuo do the fabbing yourself?

I did everything except the crossover and downpipe/wastegate plumbing.

Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:
close baseline for the street

Care to run that car on the street against the twin of the maroon mustang with the gray cowl hood? [Smile]

Posted by 90lxfoxbody (Member # 6947) on :

we did the same thing with nitrous.its fun to take the stock un touched 5.0 to its limits.

Now i will say are's was stock but freshend up.

consisted of a daul fogger nozzle jetted at 200hp.
car made a tick under 400whp but like 540wtq.
car had a c4 and a 4500 stall
ran like stink to the 1000ft mark then ran out of gear.4.11s lol still went 11.0 with a 1.48 60ft.

Ive seen your car in person its a nice ride.Im glad you still have it.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Team SOLO:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:
close baseline for the street
Care to run that car on the street against the twin of the maroon mustang with the gray cowl hood?

I had a couple of kills on the way home from the dyno so I'm satisfied for now [Smile]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 90lxfoxbody:
we did the same thing with nitrous.its fun to take the stock un touched 5.0 to its limits.

Now i will say are's was stock but freshend up.

consisted of a daul fogger nozzle jetted at 200hp.
car made a tick under 400whp but like 540wtq.
car had a c4 and a 4500 stall
ran like stink to the 1000ft mark then ran out of gear.4.11s lol still went 11.0 with a 1.48 60ft.

Ive seen your car in person its a nice ride.Im glad you still have it.

Gotta love the 'ol 302! Thanks man [patriot]

Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
Stock HGs??
Yes. The motor is all factory ford from the throttle body to the oil pan with 165k on it.

Same as mine but my motor has 89K on it.

I am using ponydown hot parts and going with a masterpower T70

Stock motor from t/b to oil pan except injectors and blow thru PMAS

Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by Team SOLO:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:
close baseline for the street
Care to run that car on the street against the twin of the maroon mustang with the gray cowl hood?
I had a couple of kills on the way home from the dyno so I'm satisfied for now

C'mon...my motor to yer turbo...on the 'old road'...what do ya say?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Team SOLO:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by Team SOLO:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:
close baseline for the street
Care to run that car on the street against the twin of the maroon mustang with the gray cowl hood?
I had a couple of kills on the way home from the dyno so I'm satisfied for now
C'mon...my motor to yer turbo...on the 'old road'...what do ya say?

I'll get right back to you on that [Wink]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

Took the car to the dynojet at newtech performance today. Nick was able to squeeze me in at real short notice. I wanted to compare the two dynos and see what I would make on a dynojet. Attached is the printout of the last two passes.

Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 2973) on :

wussup big ben!
"i was hoping to split the block" lol!"
u crazy dawg!
some good shit tho! i can't believe all that boost/164k mi & still d original hg's!

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
PS looks awsome B&G turbo kit I presume.
1 5/8" JBA Headers turned around

wtf!?

thats tight, i didnt know u can do that? i thought u had to buy turbo specific headers

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
wussup big ben!
"i was hoping to split the block" lol!"
u crazy dawg!
some good shit tho! i can't believe all that boost/164k mi & still d original hg's!

Thanks Nick, I can't believe it's still going either
[Razz]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
PS looks awsome B&G turbo kit I presume.
1 5/8" JBA Headers turned around
wtf!? thats tight, i didnt know u can do that? i thought u had to buy turbo specific headers

Not at all.. There are guys making 400+rwhp with stock 5.0 headers turned around [Eek!]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
PS looks awsome B&G turbo kit I presume.
1 5/8" JBA Headers turned around
wtf!? thats tight, i didnt know u can do that? i thought u had to buy turbo specific headers
Not at all.. There are guys making 400+rwhp with stock 5.0 headers turned around

someone should try LT's haha

Posted by OSH Zack (Member # 7667) on :

just wanted to know about how much money did you end up puting it to your whole set up, cuz im looking to do a turbo fox, not alot of them around [worship]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by OSH Zack:
just wanted to know about how much money did you end up puting it to your whole set up, cuz im looking to do a turbo fox, not alot of them around

Around $2500

Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :

What do you expect the car to run down the drag strip?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

An 11.3x would be great if I can get it to 60'. I already ran 11.56 @ 121mph at 15psi with the 18" rims. Now with lighter wheels and more power I'm going to cross my fingers [Smile]

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

can I ask if you are still running the stock valve springs and if so have you had any issues with this?

Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :

What kind of tranny are you using?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
can I ask if you are still running the stock valve springs and if so have you had any issues with this?

no prob... It's scary but they are still stock. As far as I know with a 164k on them [Eek!]

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
What kind of tranny are you using?

I was using an Art Carr AOD w/ a transbrake

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
can I ask if you are still running the stock valve springs and if so have you had any issues with this?
no prob... It's scary but they are still stock. As far as I know with a 164k on them

Gotta love it...with 15psi too...lol....I dont think I will gamble and put some new springs on my stock heads. Thanks for the input tho.

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:

quote:
Originally posted by TURBOGT:

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
can I ask if you are still running the stock valve springs and if so have you had any issues with this?
no prob... It's scary but they are still stock. As far as I know with a 164k on them
Gotta love it...with 15psi too...lol....I dont think I will gamble and put some new springs on my stock heads. Thanks for the input tho.

Now there hanging with 19psi now [Wink]

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

Wow even better with 19psi.

Since I will be retarding the cam and installing better than stock head gaskets and ARP head bolts I will throw a new set of valve springs and seals on the heads anyway.

Wish me luck.

Once this thing is running good and I start to worry about splitting the stock block then I will go to an aftermarket block and some aluminum heads and maybe some added stroke and bore.

You and many of the guys on turbomustangs have inspired me!

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Wow even better with 19psi.

Since I will be retarding the cam and installing better than stock head gaskets and ARP head bolts I will throw a new set of valve springs and seals on the heads anyway.

Wish me luck.

Once this thing is running good and I start to worry about splitting the stock block then I will go to an aftermarket block and some aluminum heads and maybe some added stroke and bore.

You and many of the guys on turbomustangs have inspired me!

I tried to split the block on the dyno but my turbo can't make more than 19psi which I believe is due to having way too much backpressure. Good luck on the build and post your progress/results here [patriot]

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

Will do.

Can I ask what you run for a fuel system?

Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :

holley in-tank 255lph for turbo/applications
42lb injectors
Stock fuel lines and fuel rails

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