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Posted by morespeed (Member # 6717) on :
 
AB 2190
http://republican.assembly.ca.gov/members/index.asp?Dist=64&Lang=1&Body=PressReleases&RefID=3462

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/newsrel/newsrel06/2006-42.htm

[ January 02, 2007, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: morespeed ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
GOOD [patriot]
 
Posted by 66backinblack (Member # 5372) on :
 
how bout instead of all that crap they use the money they got from the previous street racing fines and build a mother fukin drag/drift strip instead of all these damn strip malls with stupid ass dog grooming stores and ambercrombie and bitch shops. oops, there goes the blood pressure [Mad]
 
Posted by morespeed (Member # 6717) on :
 
lol...

hidden n.o.s. ...why good?

[ January 02, 2007, 10:01 PM: Message edited by: morespeed ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
It's a crime, and causes many innocent death/injuries.

IT SHOULD BE A MANDATORY FELONY [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
Agree with hidden, but also with backinblack. It would be nice not having to drive an hour plus just to get to a track around here.
 
Posted by illwill510 (Member # 3788) on :
 
They need a track in the Bay Area. Then there is no excuse for any street racing.

[ January 02, 2007, 10:09 PM: Message edited by: illwill510 ]
 
Posted by Eddie306 (Member # 2354) on :
 
THEY REALLY need a drag strip in the bayarea. wish fremont drag was still here. but its not going to happen soon so private runs it is.
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
where does it say they have the right to pop your hood for no reason?
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
where does it say they have the right to pop your hood for no reason?
I might be wrong but i though there was a new law that pass that they had the right to search your car for mods?
 
Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
where does it say they have the right to pop your hood for no reason?
Not on that bill, but technically officers could have you pop your hood open for anything under the sun.
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
where does it say they have the right to pop your hood for no reason?
Not on that bill, but technically officers could have you pop your hood open for anything under the sun.
I've been asked before and I just told them no, haggled back and forth for a few minutes, and he went on his way.

not that it matters since my car is completely smog legal, but it would just be a big waste of time since a police officer wont know what the hell he's looking at anyways.
 
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:
quote:
Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by losbadgts:
i do agree with this law, but what i dont agree is that officers now a days pulled u over just cause the way your car looks or sounds, and since now they have the right to open your hood and fine u for anything. it just really sucks that i cant really drive my car peacefull without thinking that i will get pulled over and gets fines for stupid shit.
where does it say they have the right to pop your hood for no reason?
Not on that bill, but technically officers could have you pop your hood open for anything under the sun.
I know that it was not on that bill but thanks jersey for clearing that up.
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
All I have to say is that there is a difference between street racing and wreckless driving!
 
Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
They can pass all the bills they want.

They will never stop street racing since they are not enough dragstrips in the West Coast. Besides developers see more profit from building apartment complexes or housing tracts then a mile long of asphalt for gearheads like us.

The bottom line = $$$$$$$$$$$$ and it isn't going to us..
 
Posted by morespeed (Member # 6717) on :
 
I guess it costs 5 million to survey the land/purchase and lay the asphalt install the tree. and all the permits and so on. plus 5,000 per day for insurance.

this is California. can't someone start this prop 666 plan to get a gawd damn race track?

signatures and what not?
 
Posted by svt306snake (Member # 1967) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
They can pass all the bills they want.

They will never stop street racing since they are not enough dragstrips in the West Coast. Besides developers see more profit from building apartment complexes or housing tracts then a mile long of asphalt for gearheads like us.

The bottom line = $$$$$$$$$$$$ and it isn't going to us..
I AGREE THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU THE ALTERNATIVE THEN YOU CAN MAKE ALL THE STUPID LAWS ON PAPER BUT IF YOU DONT GIVE THE OTHER SIDE IT DOES NO GOOD FOR THOSE IN THE BAY I AGREE YOU NEED A TRACK I LIVE IN SAC SO I HAVE ONE SO I'M COOL PLUS I GAVE UP STREET RACING AFTER THE LAST TWO POINTS WERE PUT ON MY RECORD AND MY INSURANCE BLEW THE ROOF OFF THE MUTHA GIVE US MORE PLACES TO ENJOY OUT HOBBY YOU POLITICAL HOES [Mad]
 
Posted by TuxMask-Andy (Member # 3615) on :
 
stupid laws.

When will they learn that taking a counteractive approach towards street racing never works.

they need to take a pro active approach and open a drag strip.

I did a research paper and they noted a huge drop of illegal street racing activity once they open a drag strip. It was like a 85 percent drop in street racing activity noted by the cops. I wish i had that research paper still saved that why i can cite you stupid bastards that think harsher penalties solves streetracing
 
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :
 
I love how it is always "They need to open a track"

Who the hell is "they"? Police Departments? Law Makers? [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by 66backinblack (Member # 5372) on :
 
the drag strip company lol. on a side note, i just got my car finished and went out cruisin. i wasnt specifically looking to race anyone but i was suprised that i didnt see one mustang, camaro or any modified cars!
 
Posted by sn8k (Member # 574) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how it is always "They need to open a track"
OK - I'll change it up. "They" need to get more police officers out there to enforce the fucking laws they have in place already - not add onto the ones "they" already have.

How many times has people out there been on the road and seen some dipshit pull something either really stupid, really dangerous, totally assnine, or just plain driving stupid or seemingly drunk/intoxicated? Happens every day doesn't it. There is a good reason why it's pretty normal to say "there is never a cop around when you need one".

Bottom line - if you can't enforce the laws effectively, then they don't mean shit. Piling on more may make you feel good - but that's about it.

quote:
Originally posted by TuxMask-Andy:
When will they learn that taking a counteractive approach towards street racing never works.
"They" will never learn - obviously [Roll Eyes] "They" would rather charge you with a felony for simply doing (for example) a little stop-light warrior action when no one else is around... instead of putting enough officers in place to (for example) go after the idiots that think it's cool to freeway race in traffic with their little fart cans [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
The one thing that bothers me is how cops use the street racing charge. I got on it from a stop and got pulled over. I should have been charged with exibition of speed, thats what I did and I admit it. He gave me a speed contest ticket because there was a car behind me and I was "racing" with it. It was an old lady that I had just passed a few blocks past, there was no race. I had to go to court and ended up getting it knocked down to an unsafe start. If I'm engaged in a speed contest then I'll take the ticket. I dont do as much wrong now as I did years ago but still mess around once in a while.... the difference is its usually out on an empty area of road so I dont hurt anyone else if something goes wrong.
 
Posted by Sk8OnGlass (Member # 6370) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
All I have to say is that there is a difference between street racing and wreckless driving!
+1 [patriot]
 
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
The one thing that bothers me is how cops use the street racing charge. I got on it from a stop and got pulled over. I should have been charged with exibition of speed, thats what I did and I admit it. He gave me a speed contest ticket because there was a car behind me and I was "racing" with it. It was an old lady that I had just passed a few blocks past, there was no race. I had to go to court and ended up getting it knocked down to an unsafe start. If I'm engaged in a speed contest then I'll take the ticket. I dont do as much wrong now as I did years ago but still mess around once in a while.... the difference is its usually out on an empty area of road so I dont hurt anyone else if something goes wrong.
how much was your unsafe start ticket, i was just issued a ticket for that, I asked the cop to give me a municiple-code ticket for friction marks, even told her the code for it, she said she already had the ticket wrote up, because she couldnt remember that code i told her...
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
quote:
Originally posted by asskickn88:
The one thing that bothers me is how cops use the street racing charge. I got on it from a stop and got pulled over. I should have been charged with exibition of speed, thats what I did and I admit it. He gave me a speed contest ticket because there was a car behind me and I was "racing" with it. It was an old lady that I had just passed a few blocks past, there was no race. I had to go to court and ended up getting it knocked down to an unsafe start. If I'm engaged in a speed contest then I'll take the ticket. I dont do as much wrong now as I did years ago but still mess around once in a while.... the difference is its usually out on an empty area of road so I dont hurt anyone else if something goes wrong.
how much was your unsafe start ticket, i was just issued a ticket for that, I asked the cop to give me a municiple-code ticket for friction marks, even told her the code for it, she said she already had the ticket wrote up, because she couldnt remember that code i told her...
I got an "unsafe start" about a year ago for spinning 2nd gear leaving an intersection where a cop was 10 cars behind me, it was $180.
 
Posted by morespeed (Member # 6717) on :
 
we need to open a race track
 
Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
Why would they provide a venue for somthing that was never legal in the first place. Its not the cops fault you took up illegal activities to pass your time. If you think a track would stop street racing you are tripping,Sacramento has/had one of the biggest streetracing action around and there is a track there. It may cut down on it a bit,but it wouldnt have a great effect. The street racing scene has become stupid. Back in the 90's it was nothing like it is now. There was more racing and less being stupid.
Honestly all these videos I see coming from the bay you guys race in the most retarded places,with little to no concern for safety. The storys I hear about people getting hit by people running when the cops come,that shits just stupid. You made your bed now lay in it.

I will admit I'm not inocent, I punch off every now and then at the right moments/right places when it seams safe. I know damn well I'm breaking the law though. And I know damn well the cops are gonna collect on it if they see me.
 
Posted by 66backinblack (Member # 5372) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
you guys
[Eek!] THATS A LITTLE GENERAL DUDE

[ January 03, 2007, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: 66backinblack ]
 
Posted by 64valves (Member # 7295) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
Why would they provide a venue for somthing that was never legal in the first place. Its not the cops fault you took up illegal activities to pass your time. If you think a track would stop street racing you are tripping,Sacramento has/had one of the biggest streetracing action around and there is a track there. It may cut down on it a bit,but it wouldnt have a great effect. The street racing scene has become stupid. Back in the 90's it was nothing like it is now. There was more racing and less being stupid.
Honestly all these videos I see coming from the bay you guys race in the most retarded places,with little to no concern for safety. The storys I hear about people getting hit by people running when the cops come,that shits just stupid. You made your bed now lay in it.

I will admit I'm not inocent, I punch off every now and then at the right moments/right places when it seams safe. I know damn well I'm breaking the law though. And I know damn well the cops are gonna collect on it if they see me.
well said
 
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
[QUOTE]how much was your unsafe start ticket, i was just issued a ticket for that
To be honest I dont remember, it was like 8 or so years ago.
 
Posted by sn8k (Member # 574) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
If you think a track would stop street racing you are tripping,Sacramento has/had one of the biggest streetracing action around and there is a track there. It may cut down on it a bit,but it wouldnt have a great effect.
Probably has as much effect as when the cops decided to start hanging out at Sac Raceway and jack people up when they left if they suspected them of having illegal mods. Nice move [Roll Eyes]

Seriously though - I wouldn't call having only one track that serves and area where millions of peeps live doing a lot to help the problem. We don't need another sigle track - we need 3 to 5 new ones built... would be nice to have a few 1/8 mile dragstrips around here. Sadly, that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
 
Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66backinblack:
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
you guys
[Eek!] THATS A LITTLE GENERAL DUDE
I have problem doing that. I meant all the people that think they should be provided a place to go if cops are gonna harras them.
 
Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sn8k:
quote:
Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
If you think a track would stop street racing you are tripping,Sacramento has/had one of the biggest streetracing action around and there is a track there. It may cut down on it a bit,but it wouldnt have a great effect.
Probably has as much effect as when the cops decided to start hanging out at Sac Raceway and jack people up when they left if they suspected them of having illegal mods. Nice move [Roll Eyes]

Seriously though - I wouldn't call having only one track that serves and area where millions of peeps live doing a lot to help the problem. We don't need another sigle track - we need 3 to 5 new ones built... would be nice to have a few 1/8 mile dragstrips around here. Sadly, that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
Sac raceway is dead for half a year,you think there will be enough business to keep 3-5 tracks up and running?

I thought there was plans to put in a track down closer to the bay?

Cops waiting out front of the track was pretty lame,I think it stopped though.
 
Posted by sn8k (Member # 574) on :
 
Yes - "they" could easily keep 5 tracks running. With what the state brings in on taxes and tickets every year, "they" can surly afford to subsidize the tracks and pay for 'em to be built too. It would be a drop in the bucket. It's not good politics though - that seemingly is defined by not having enough cops and passing BS laws on top of the ones that they can't/haven't enforced effectivly enough to curb the problem... and letting more people die in the process. [Roll Eyes]

I think the busts stopped too - but there can/will be a next time. I just don't feel like driving 1 hour plus each way just to get jacked by the man. Screw that... I'm just so happy to be leaving this state in the near future. Time to enjoy a more friendly "car state". I'll leave Cali to the tree-huggers and other's who like to think they have all the answers (not you dude - the "they" people... politicians and other organizations that think something like this law will solve anything).
 
Posted by 1968_Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
I heard they also passed the law where you can't hold a cell phone to your ear anymore.
 
Posted by 66backinblack (Member # 5372) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1968_Fastback:
I heard they also passed the law where you can't hold a cell phone to your ear anymore.
yea, i believe on the 1st. coming home from work yesterday 3 out of the 4 people turning in front of me were on their cell phone lol
 
Posted by Nacho (Member # 6720) on :
 
There is more shit to worry about in this state then f*k streetracing. How about ppl being f*ked up on dope and who knows what eles. [BS flag] If you even put a track in the bay ppl just dont give a f*ck if theres one here anyway or not. Theres still going to be ppl still street racing. It would be nice to have a track here thoe [Cool]

[ January 04, 2007, 01:27 PM: Message edited by: Nacho ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DLo:
Agree with hidden, but also with backinblack. It would be nice not having to drive an hour plus just to get to a track around here.
A Drag Strip? They dont care, all they want to do is pull people over for the stupidest excuses and write tickets so they can reach their quota..
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
From my understanding only highway patrol guys have a quota.

As far as the new street racing law...whatever. I could care less. I don't street race.

One things for sure though, I'd mess around on public streets a lot less if there was a local place to bring my car. But like said already,...this is the Bay Area. Only new shit here is lame ass shopping, boring resturant chains and oh wait a Fremont Hooters. Woopty fuckin do.

And before anyone says..."If you hate it here so much then get the fuck out"...I'm workin on it. [patriot]
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
It's a crime, and causes many innocent death/injuries.

IT SHOULD BE A MANDATORY FELONY [Whoo Whooooo!]
Puuuulease! [Roll Eyes]
A mandatory felony??!!

[ January 07, 2007, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: 50DADDY ]
 




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