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Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

just smogged the car and passed. i expected it to though. still has all smog equip and A/C.

12.8 @ 112.08

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
just smogged the car and passed. i expected it to though. still has all smog equip and A/C.

12.8 @ 112.08

Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :

would it pass the state ref? are all your parts CARB legal?

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

If you are running high 12's, you might want to hold off on the "Beast" label...

Posted by MINGRYGT (Member # 2439) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
just smogged the car and passed. i expected it to though. still has all smog equip and A/C.

12.8 @ 112.08

GET SOME TIRES

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

yea i need tires right now they are stock 03 bullits... i had to take it to a test only. i have c.a.r.b numbers.

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

yea i cant call it a beast untill i get a 115 mph huh.

Posted by svt306snake (Member # 1967) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
If you are running high 12's, you might want to hold off on the "Beast" label...

oouch right in the heart jim lol [Big Grin]

Posted by 91Trunkster (Member # 6598) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
If you are running high 12's, you might want to hold off on the "Beast" label...

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

edit... ill be nice

[ April 29, 2006, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: sic5pointSLOW ]

Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :

how big of a shot are u running

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

Run 11.0@127 and then call it a "beast". [Wink]

My 93 ran that with a stock shortblock, all smog legal bolt-on's, and all smog parts in place...even the stock H pipe. Passed smog no sweat.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

jus so i know this is the one u put a 4.6 in right?

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

negative this is a 5.0

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

you know jonhB there are alot of people on this site that cannot pass smog and still run 14s. i just think that its funny people remove all this shit and the car dont really do nothing.

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

You have a HIGH 12 second car and are bragging that it passes smog [Confused]

LMFAO

[ April 29, 2006, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
You have a HIGH 12 second car and are bragging that it passes smog

LMFAO

LOL

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
you know jonhB there are alot of people on this site that cannot pass smog and still run 14s. i just think that its funny people remove all this shit and the car dont really do nothing.

Yes, I think it's hilarious too. What's your point? [Smile]

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

i think this is funny how everyone is reacting to this. lol

Posted by AchersNotch (Member # 5177) on :

Thats sick.. What mods?

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
i think this is funny how everyone is reacting to this. lol

We think your "BEAST" is funny [Razz]

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :

is this the one that u have the 125shot of nitrous that u took to the track a while ago, btw congrats on the 12's pass.

Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :

I am happy when anything passes smog in California. Seems like they are looking for ways not to pass you. Congrats on getting passed with any mods!!!

Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :

I remove all my smog stuff along with some other things to lighten the front end up a little...BUT, I don't plan on ever smogging or registering it ever again. Oh and now I can save 2 minutes when I change my plugs.

Posted by modular (Member # 6599) on :

12.8 all bolt ons? Lukes 93 has ran a 13.0x stock intake to pan no power adder like John Bs car.

Posted by 91Trunkster (Member # 6598) on :

[ April 30, 2006, 03:12 AM: Message edited by: 91Trunkster ]

Posted by forddude510 (Member # 6395) on :

congrats on ur smog pass sic

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

yea man i just wanted to post that i passed smog and i am happy about this. but it seems that most the people (thanks to all that gave me props) think this is a competition. modular why post anything about JOE BLOWS car. i am glad that he ran a 13.0x in a "stock top to bottom end with no power adder like blah blah" you should be sucking his dick too

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

aye hidnn o s. i was reading in another thread that you get 170 miles to the tank. i hope thats not on your mid 13 second car you have posted in your profile. [Eek!]

man i get 220

[ April 30, 2006, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: sic5pointSLOW ]

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
aye hidnn o s. i was reading in another thread that you get 170 miles to the tank. i hope thats not on your mid 13 second car you have posted in your profile. man i get 220

LMFAO, your high 12 second "BEAST" gets 220 to the tank and passes smog as is [Eek!]

LMFAO, BRILLIANT [Whoo Whooooo!]

I don't think I could run a 12.8 with 114 MPH if I tried, NOW THAT'S PURE COMEDY. MPH that's good for easy 11's, but is a full second off, LMFAO [worship]

My car is geared low and has one less gear than you because I have 4 cars to choose from to drive. You brag about passing smog, running high 12's with that MPH, and getting 220 miles out of a tank of gas, LMFAO. YOU SHOULD DO STANDUP [Whoo Whooooo!]

[ April 30, 2006, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

Question: Your "beast" runs 114mph. What are your mods? N/A?

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

BTW, CA SMOG IS NOT DIFFICULT TO PASS, NOT AT ALL.

Posted by silverLX (Member # 3207) on :

I also would like to know the mods. Not too bad for street tires...

Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
Run 11.0@127 and then call it a "beast".

My 93 ran that with a stock shortblock, all smog legal bolt-on's, and all smog parts in place...even the stock H pipe. Passed smog no sweat.

Please share you secret or your combination. That is my plan with one of my stangs....

Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :

LOL secret. No secret.

Semi carefully selected HCI,
+
power adder
+
Suspesion work/tires
+
Knowing how to drive

Biggest factor being KNOWING how to drive.

[ April 30, 2006, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: Fostang ]

Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
LOL secret. No secret.

Semi carefully selected HCI,
+
power adder
+
Suspesion work/tires
+
Knowing how to drive

Biggest factor being KNOWING how to drive.

am i sensing and attitude already? [Roll Eyes]

Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :

well I was kinda hoping he would name the components he is using (brands). That would help me with my shopping list. Since it seems his setup works. And he obviously knows his shit.

I know the basics.

Posted by 95 S H O TYME (Member # 6270) on :

props on the smog my shit is stock and it aint passing [patriot]

Posted by droptp50 (Member # 5546) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
i think this is funny how everyone is reacting to this. lol
We think your "BEAST" is funny

i think AOD's are funny lmfao

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

quote:
Originally posted by n8y8:
well I was kinda hoping he would name the components he is using (brands). That would help me with my shopping list. Since it seems his setup works. And he obviously knows his shit.

I know the basics.

Put this on a stock block in good shape->

AFR165's- Comp Prep even better or TFS Twisted Wedge CNC.

RPM II Intake and match the lower to the heads.

Custom Cam, w/ around 226* intake duration, 222* Exhuast duration at .050", 112LSA, little to no overlap. (Smog techs aren't going to pull engine apart to check cam.)

70mm TB, 76-80mm MAF, 24 lber's, Fuel pump, etc.

Tune it and see well over 300rwhp and rwtq- possibly as high as 340/340. Put that in a 3100lb Mustang and go faster than I did.

For ET you need to hook- ie 60 FOOT!!!. Subframes, control arms,
no front swaybar, 70/30's, etc. on slicks. You will have the power to go lo 1.6's to high 1.5's.
Don't forget a clutch that can handle it.

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
LOL secret. No secret.

Semi carefully selected HCI,
+
power adder
+
Suspesion work/tires
+
Knowing how to drive

Biggest factor being KNOWING how to drive.

If you need a power adder to run 114, you don't know what you are doing.

Posted by blind (Member # 3052) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:

quote:
Originally posted by Fostang:
LOL secret. No secret.

Semi carefully selected HCI,
+
power adder
+
Suspesion work/tires
+
Knowing how to drive

Biggest factor being KNOWING how to drive.
If you need a power adder to run 114, you don't know what you are doing.

fostang's list you quoted was for John's 127mph trap, not a 114mph trap.

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

so?

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

man i am on street tires, i know i can get a better. well i hope i can

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

Here we go! No secrets, no custom cams, no crazy compression.

Stock, yes..a STOCK bottom end (it was my original Cobra shortblock).
Edelbrock RPM heads, ported by TEA racing.
Trickflow stage 1 cam, installed straight up.
Edelbrock 5.0 intake
36lb injectors, 70 MM TB, 80 MM MAF. NO TUNE. (Just a A9M computer)
Vortech SQ-trim supercharger
FMS shorty headers, ran a stock H pipe smog and ran a hi-flow catt'd X at the track later on.
ZEX nitrous kit (just a 35hp shot!)
Tremec 3550 trans with RAM clutch

Suspension was:
Stock struts/shocks with STOCK springs all around. I cut rubber spring isolators and stuffed them into the right rear spring. [Big Grin]

This gave me the preload I wanted, without variable (adj) shocks. Unbolted the front swaybar. Ran ET Streets. This was pretty consistent...1.58-1.65. It's all about the launch.

11.02@127.0 was my best with that combo. Ran for solid year until it popped a HG, tore it down and built my 393w.

Everyone is givin' you shit because of how you titled the post. Has nothing to do with it "only being a 12 sec car). Hell, I ran my 03 last night...13.2@118. And then it spit a sparkplug out. Props for getting it to pass smog. Some will say it's easy and to some, yes..it is. But if you don't know the in's and out's...its not a easy feat. [patriot]

Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
man i am on street tires, i know i can get a better. well i hope i can

and u are also on the juice, it's funny how everyone is getting all work up about this tread, my car could run 12's on the juice and it passes smog no problem i just got to put the stock h pipe back in, i dont know why everyone is making a big deal out of this, point is that i never seen a 5.0 run 112 mph on the 1/4 n/a and still be able to pass smog with no problems. Keyword here is NITROUS

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

wow i didnt know i had to be careful the way i labeled up a thread. i posted this for the people that are trying to get their car fast and wonder if it will still pass smog. hinnos and faster dammit are just being fags.

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

i have stock bottom end
stock heads
stock cam
stock injectors
stock mass air
160.xxx mile engine

i know there is more power there but i am not ready to exploit that yet

Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on :

oh and i call this car a BEAST because i have
2001 gt seats
2003 gt rims
2003 lightning fogloghts
1996 cobra catback
1993 cobra kit (sideskirts)
parkers wing and bumper
1991 fenders

point is that everything is from someone else. and i mean everything.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
oh and i call this car a BEAST because i have
2001 gt seats
2003 gt rims
2003 lightning fogloghts
1996 cobra catback
1993 cobra kit (sideskirts)
parkers wing and bumper
1991 fenders

point is that everything is from someone else. and i mean everything.

dont forget my bbk off road h

Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :

JohnB thanks man. I was kinda wondering about the whole smog thing and still being able to hit 11's. I am not into extreme speed, more like sleepers and weekend warrior type of shit (I like to have a little more show than go). Oh and thanks to thread starter for bringing up this topic.

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

quote:
Originally posted by n8y8:
JohnB thanks man. I was kinda wondering about the whole smog thing and still being able to hit 11's. I am not into extreme speed, more like sleepers and weekend warrior type of shit (I like to have a little more show than go). Oh and thanks to thread starter for bringing up this topic.

John's car would have run 10's w/ a bit of chassis tuning, but the HG let go before he could get the timeslip. The combo I listed would run hi 11's easily w/ no cats and just squeek into the 11's w/ hi-flo cats, and be smog legal.

As far as the "beast" label- your explanation of how it is built makes sense. Hope that is not too mach of a fag comment to offend your thin skin any further.

And there is still no list of the combo that pulled this off...

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

everyone has has names for their cars and he picked the name "beast", just get over it, like i call my car the "king of the highway"(inside joke) and my car is slow.

Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :

the 91 in my sig is smog legal but it doesn't hook as good as JohnB but pulled 128.8 with no NOS I only managed a 11.11 with 1.72 60 foot. I wish I had John b's 60 foots. BTW my car is daily driven with AC the everything. It would be very easy to strip it down slic it up and go well into the 10's. This combo has been running this strong for 2 years now and around 15,000 miles

[ April 30, 2006, 05:04 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]

Posted by BlownMach1 (Member # 5400) on :

UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL

[ June 14, 2006, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: BlownMach1 ]

Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL

JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.

Posted by UNTOUCHABLE 510 (Member # 5889) on :

the C A I is legal. according to the smog tech. since there are no vaccume lines that run to it.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL
JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.

Car was registered here until Oct 04. [Wink]

And please tell me how you can spot Edelbrock RPM's visually from the outside? Better yet, even from running the part number cast into them? You can't. But of course, you'd like to argue the point. Care to argue the timeslips as well? [Big Grin]

Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sic5pointSLOW:
just smogged the car and passed. i expected it to though. still has all smog equip and A/C.

12.8 @ 112.08

nice job bro...dont let these haters tell you otherwise... [worship]

[ June 14, 2006, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: onesicklx ]

Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :

Hi Eddie!

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL
JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.
Car was registered here until Oct 04.
And please tell me how you can spot Edelbrock RPM's visually from the outside? Better yet, even from running the part number cast into them? You can't. But of course, you'd like to argue the point. Care to argue the timeslips as well?

Ah, one of the benifits of being military! [patriot]

p.s. answer my pm! [Razz]

Posted by BlownMach1 (Member # 5400) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL
JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.
Car was registered here until Oct 04.
And please tell me how you can spot Edelbrock RPM's visually from the outside? Better yet, even from running the part number cast into them? You can't. But of course, you'd like to argue the point. Care to argue the timeslips as well?

i have never owned any RPM heads just told they dont have the smog inserts in the back of the heads thats all...but as for the timeslip...woo hoo you got a winsor stroker and ported heads with however much boost...you want a cookie? My homie Streakmatt does 10.68s with a stock bottomend and smog legal AFR 165s with less boost...now take your cookie and please pull forwand...hahahahahaha

Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL
JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.
Car was registered here until Oct 04.
And please tell me how you can spot Edelbrock RPM's visually from the outside? Better yet, even from running the part number cast into them? You can't. But of course, you'd like to argue the point. Care to argue the timeslips as well?
i have never owned any RPM heads just told they dont have the smog inserts in the back of the heads thats all...but as for the timeslip...woo hoo you got a winsor stroker and ported heads with however much boost...you want a cookie? My homie Streakmatt does 10.68s with a stock bottomend and smog legal AFR 165s with less boost...now take your cookie and please pull forwand...hahahahahaha

dammmm....

Posted by UNTOUCHABLE 510 (Member # 5889) on :

how much boost can you run on a stock block?

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

quote:
Originally posted by cummins:
Hi Eddie!

hi cummins!!!!!!!

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by UNTOUCHABLE 510:
how much boost can you run on a stock block?

hahahaha, im not saying anything [Cool]

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

quote:
Originally posted by UNTOUCHABLE 510:
how much boost can you run on a stock block?

It's a crap shoot if You are above 500 RWHP You just never know, could blow one up with 300 RWHP and the wrong tune.

Posted by LOCKDOWN (Member # 4768) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by BlownMach1:
UMMM...JohnB im not sure but last i checked the RPM heads were not smog legal so how does that work....also there are hella cars on here that will pass smog with a smog tech that dont care about visual...its all about the tech cause i cold air intake is not smog legal really...but i have heard storys about people passing pipe with NO cats...i know i have done it with a 12 sec hatch with long tubes and just 2 high flows..take it to a referee and it wont..LOL
JohnB's car is registered in Florida...not here.
Car was registered here until Oct 04.
And please tell me how you can spot Edelbrock RPM's visually from the outside? Better yet, even from running the part number cast into them? You can't. But of course, you'd like to argue the point. Care to argue the timeslips as well?
i have never owned any RPM heads just told they dont have the smog inserts in the back of the heads thats all...but as for the timeslip...woo hoo you got a winsor stroker and ported heads with however much boost...you want a cookie? My homie Streakmatt does 10.68s with a stock bottomend and smog legal AFR 165s with less boost...now take your cookie and please pull forwand...hahahahahaha

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

RPM's have the inserts.

The 11.0 was on a stock bottom end. I made no mention of my current setup.
And oh, it's only 8 psi.

I think it's funny that you still don't get that no one is baggin' on his car nor his times. What's even better is everyone who is "homies" with anyone that's got a quick ride. [Cool]

You guys will figure it out someday...

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
RPM's have the inserts.

The 11.0 was on a stock bottom end. I made no mention of my current setup.
And oh, it's only 8 psi.

I think it's funny that you still don't get that no one is baggin' on his car nor his times. What's even better is everyone who is "homies" with anyone that's got a quick ride. You guys will figure it out someday...

John, your cobra is a beast. Plain and simple. Build correctly, no corners cut. Its one hell of a machine! [worship]

Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:

quote:
Originally posted by cummins:
Hi Eddie!
hi cummins!!!!!!!

Hi to you too Eddie! But I was talking about onePOSlx ummmmmm I mean oneSickAndNeedsToBePutToSleeplx ummmm I mean onesicklx. Yah that's it! Onesicklx Eddie. Hi!

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
RPM's have the inserts.

The 11.0 was on a stock bottom end. I made no mention of my current setup.
And oh, it's only 8 psi.

I think it's funny that you still don't get that no one is baggin' on his car nor his times. What's even better is everyone who is "homies" with anyone that's got a quick ride. You guys will figure it out someday...
John, your cobra is a beast. Plain and simple. Build correctly, no corners cut. Its one hell of a machine!

he did cut one corner, look at the hood, the whole side is practicly cut of [Razz]

Posted by LOCKDOWN (Member # 4768) on :

with just a 306 intake,cam + 150 shot went 10.91.with some heads an a good tune would have gone at least 10.50's now that's '86Beast'.new setup all most done. should be [Eek!]

[ June 17, 2006, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: LOCKDOWN ]

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