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Posted by bigboy (Member # 5474) on :
 
Hopefully I got it right this time posting the pictures. This is a picture of our pro series race/street turbo system for '87-'95 Mustangs. This is a BBR 331 4340 Forged short block afr 185 heads. 1 5/8 custom BBR turbo headers and cross over pipe. This set up is going into a customer's '90 Mustang LX.
Thought you guys might like to see these.

BBR
3668 Edison Way, Fremont
(510)659-1100
Custom Turbo Systems





[ February 24, 2006, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: bigboy ]
 

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Posted by eljefe (Member # 1753) on :
 
very nice, what size turbo are you using?
 

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Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
i want me one of those.
i think thats someones engine from the board, they had a pic of it with out the turbo stuff on it

[ February 24, 2006, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: two-gun kid ]
 

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Posted by SydeWayzSix (Member # 2222) on :
 
how much does a setup like that run??
 

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Posted by 93cobracoupestang (Member # 5765) on :
 

 

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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
bling bling..
 

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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 

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Originally posted by SydeWayzSix:
how much does a setup like that run??

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I want to know too?? .


 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 
Anything for New Edge?
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 

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Originally posted by eljefe:
very nice, what size turbo are you using?

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Looks like an MP 60-1

Maybe even an MP T-70

[ February 24, 2006, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Fostang ]
 

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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
How much?
 

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Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 
Yeah, not that I can afford one but how much?
 

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Posted by bigboy (Member # 5474) on :
 
The turbo is a t-70 rated to 800+ horsepower.The turbo kits range between 3500-5000 depending on options(turbo size etc.)Which include 3" cold side piping front mount intercooler.As we all know turbo are not cheap.But you can not beat the horsepower and torque they produce.Thanks for the comppliments on our system.We have put alot of R&D into it.We also will be doing a twin turbo outlaw kit next month on a mustang 1300 plus HP! we cant wait to get started.
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
Beautiful pics! Can you make them bigger? I'm almost blind....
 

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Posted by NiftyWhiteFifty (Member # 4320) on :
 

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Originally posted by SydeWayzSix:
how much does a setup like that run??

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:
Anything for New Edge?

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Why Raj, you cant afford anything
 

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Posted by bottled02GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
i may be wrong, but id assume u gotta do a battery re-locate....even so i like what i see, i think im gonna have to stop by since im in fremon almost everyday
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
Wonder how many MONTHS it took to build that motor?
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
It's gonna need alot more than a battery relocate to work.

And are you running it minus a intercooler for a reason?
 

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Posted by bottled02GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:

And are you running it minus a intercooler for a reason?

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Originally posted by Fostang:
What makes your kit better than others offering them at the same price but with IMO better components?

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What makes your kit better than others offering them at the same price but with IMO better components?

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Our kit is built of quality components ceramic coated hot side. Opinions vary as to which components are best. We do our best to meet the customer's needs and budget. Our kit can accept turbos ranging from 60-1 t4 to GT45 and 68AR to 96AR exhaust or bigger size without any kit modifications. This includes turbo brands of Innovative, Precision Turbo, MP Turbo and Garrett GT Series Turbos. The nice thing about our kit is that you can upgrade to a bigger turbo without having to modify the system. This is something we spent a lot of R&D on, a "one kit fits all" system.
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
uh, not starting anything, but how does any other kit not do the same, turbo interchange I mean

if it is the same foot print turbo, then a whole bunch of sizes will fit

if one is on center and the other is tang, they wont interchange without some plumbing changes

unless you mean that you can switch from on center to tang or the other way, then to you
 

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Posted by TURBOGT (Member # 234) on :
 
Someone is getting ready to make alot of horsepower!
 

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Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
just wondering (maybe ricidulous) but what does a turbo sound like on an SBF dumped straight out of the downpipe, no mufflers? i have always heard that a turbo acts somewhat as a muffler
 

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Posted by modular (Member # 6599) on :
 
lmao! get his ass fellas! let the hating begin!
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 
Why all the hatin? The guy is just posting a pic of one of the engines he built
 

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Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
Does it let you keep all accessories and smog stuff?
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91 5.0 5speed:
Why all the hatin? The guy is just posting a pic of one of the engines he built

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Check the lost dates...this thread started over a year ago.
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91 5.0 5speed:
Why all the hatin? The guy is just posting a pic of one of the engines he built

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Check the lost dates...this thread started over a year ago.

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Thats about right for BigBoy's turn around on motors. Bring a car in wanting a motor, and BAM 4-6months later you'll probably have a motor, but still needing to be installed!
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91 5.0 5speed:
Why all the hatin? The guy is just posting a pic of one of the engines he built

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Check the lost dates...this thread started over a year ago.

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oops
 

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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
Ive personally been to BigBoi numerous times and spoken with the owner a # of times. These are good guys. With a host of cars theyre working on. Ive been saving and when ive got enough, theyre doing my work Great Guy with Great Work

oh and the body shop next door does good body work as well, i know the owner
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
For what its worth, I had Sheldon @ BigBoyRacing do my subframe connectors. He is a certified welder and did a great job. I would recommend him.

Both Spec Fab and Sheldon do good metal work from my experience.
 

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Posted by vpr_klr (Member # 3353) on :
 
Clean ass shit Sheldon! Keep up the good stuff!
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
Ive personally been to BigBoi numerous times and spoken with the owner a # of times. These are good guys. With a host of cars theyre working on. Ive been saving and when ive got enough, theyre doing my work Great Guy with Great Work

oh and the body shop next door does good body work as well, i know the owner

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Perhaps times have changed since I have dealt with Sheldon, granted, he is a cool mo fo. But for turn around time and what kinda HP he says a motor is going to make and comes far from it while on the dyno! Do it right the 1st time and go with Drew and Shaun at AED!!! they dont waste time, done right 1st time, and straight up with you!
 

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Posted by Sk8OnGlass (Member # 6370) on :
 
I had Sheldon @ BigBoyRacing do my subframe connectors.
 

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Posted by Norcal95050 (Member # 2941) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sk8OnGlass:
I had Sheldon @ BigBoyRacing do my subframe connectors.

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+1 Sheldon Is cool and did a good quality job on my sub frames too
 

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Posted by nor*cal93ssp (Member # 3884) on :
 
nice...but again, how much?
 

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Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
I had Sheldon do my heads/cam and other miscellaneous stuff and it was quality work I think everyone gets impatient(especially if it is your dd) at times when your baby is in the shop and you want your stuff back like yesterday, but I much rather have someone go over the engine 2, 3, or perhaps even 4 or 5 times over to make sure things are perfect. Thats the difference between quality and a "rush...get to the next customer..half ass job".
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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I had Sheldon @ BigBoyRacing do my subframe connectors.

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+1 Sheldon Is cool and did a good quality job on my sub frames too

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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
I had Sheldon do my heads/cam and other miscellaneous stuff and it was quality work I think everyone gets impatient(especially if it is your dd) at times when your baby is in the shop and you want your stuff back like yesterday, but I much rather have someone go over the engine 2, 3, or perhaps even 4 or 5 times over to make sure things are perfect. Thats the difference between quality and a "rush...get to the next customer..half ass job".

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He had my car for around 4 almost 5 months to build a motor. Then when he "made it up to me" with doing my tranny/stall converter, that took about 6weeks!

Im the same way when it comes to quality work, in fact may be a little too anal about things, but having someones car for nearly 7 months to build a motor and rebuild a tranny ....Plain ridiculous, then charging me a fuckin arm and a leg. I was also told my car was going to be sponsered by Big Boy Racing, to make my 98GT run 12's all motor. The best that car did was 13.8's @ 98mph WHILE backfiring down the strip!
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
I had Sheldon do my heads/cam and other miscellaneous stuff and it was quality work I think everyone gets impatient(especially if it is your dd) at times when your baby is in the shop and you want your stuff back like yesterday, but I much rather have someone go over the engine 2, 3, or perhaps even 4 or 5 times over to make sure things are perfect. Thats the difference between quality and a "rush...get to the next customer..half ass job".

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He had my car for around 4 almost 5 months to build a motor. Then when he "made it up to me" with doing my tranny/stall converter, that took about 6weeks!

Im the same way when it comes to quality work, in fact may be a little too anal about things, but having someones car for nearly 7 months to build a motor and rebuild a tranny ....Plain ridiculous, then charging me a fuckin arm and a leg. I was also told my car was going to be sponsered by Big Boy Racing, to make my 98GT run 12's all motor. The best that car did was 13.8's @ 98mph WHILE backfiring down the strip!

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I can see why you are pissed!
 

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Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
I think in any situation in which major work is being planned (ie replacement motor) at any shop it is alway wise to set up your expectations with the people that are doing the work. Stuff like cost and amount of time should always be the first questions asked. There shouldn't be any surprises. BBR is not the only mustang shop in the area and I bet if you take a poll of any shop that builds motors you will find customers that were kind of p/o because they didn't get their car back when they wanted it or it ended up costing a bit more then expected.

I don't know...to me a big shop with lots of customers packed with an overhead of mechanics is a recipe for something to be missed (bad quality). BBR is like a one or two guy show so it will probably take a little more time with them, but you get good work done.

[ March 07, 2007, 03:22 PM: Message edited by: CobramanPhil ]
 

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Posted by 351R (Member # 5053) on :
 
sheldon deals with at least 3 or 4 projects at one time.he did my cage(with swing outs),subframes and welded my torque boxes.i was very pleased.i talk to him today and that picture is hella old.he has built some of the fastest mustangs ive ever seen.bottom line is he does great work....kinda pricey thou but hey it cost alot to opperate in fremont ca....
 

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Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
i say someone sets a up a poll like cobramanphil mentioned......i'd do it but i dont know how......

[ March 07, 2007, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]
 

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Posted by Lostmybowl (Member # 6717) on :
 
+1 more... Sheldon's cool!

[ March 07, 2007, 11:27 PM: Message edited by: oh there it is ]
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 

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i say someone sets a up a poll like cobramanphil mentioned......i'd do it but i dont know how......

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i say someone sets a up a poll like cobramanphil mentioned......i'd do it but i dont know how......

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I agree! I would like to give a little feedback regarding my experiences with a certain piece of shit of a human being who did some shitty work on my car

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i say someone sets a up a poll like cobramanphil mentioned......i'd do it but i dont know how......

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I agree! I would like to give a little feedback regarding my experiences with a certain piece of shit of a human being who did some shitty work on my car

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care to share who might that be?

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Why?!? its only gonna start a flame thread? i remem hearing someone shitty fu*ked up peoples rides at AED.... but everyone knows they do great work. Just like Sheldon does great work.... u cant flame an entire shop for the F*** ups of 1 ignorant person.
 

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Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :
 
You also cannot assume that the screwups on the cars are entirely the shop's fault either. I guess a common scenerio is when a customer brings in a car (wants this, that, and everything). After all the hard pieces are put together the customer goes out and beats on the car like there is no tomorrow. He/she then brings it to a questionable tuning place or (EEEEK) gets a mailorder chip and the car detonates and backfires until the motor blows. Then the customer turns around and starts pointing at the shop and flames them all over the internet)

Doesn't see fair if you ask me....

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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You also cannot assume that the screwups on the cars are entirely the shop's fault either. I guess a common scenerio is when a customer brings in a car (wants this, that, and everything). After all the hard pieces are put together the customer goes out and beats on the car like there is no tomorrow. He/she then brings it to a questionable tuning place or (EEEEK) gets a mailorder chip and the car detonates and backfires until the motor blows. Then the customer turns around and starts pointing at the shop and flames them all over the internet)

Doesn't see fair if you ask me....

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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
You also cannot assume that the screwups on the cars are entirely the shop's fault either. I guess a common scenerio is when a customer brings in a car (wants this, that, and everything). After all the hard pieces are put together the customer goes out and beats on the car like there is no tomorrow. He/she then brings it to a questionable tuning place or (EEEEK) gets a mailorder chip and the car detonates and backfires until the motor blows. Then the customer turns around and starts pointing at the shop and flames them all over the internet)

Doesn't see fair if you ask me....

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I feel you there, Thats why when I got my 98 back from BBR, I let sheldon drive it around first along with me breaking in the motor for 1000miles, then he and I drove up to Mustang Ranch to over see the tuning that Byron did on my car. After the car didnt make the power it was supposed to make, thats when BBR said he would rebuild my auto tranny. Took it to the strip with Sheldon there to watch, when it didnt run what we expected, sheldon changed the spark plugs with a different gap, ran the car again and statred backfiring mid track. The best the new motor ran with slicks was 13.8. My stock 98 motor with bolt-ons ran 14.1 on street tires.

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Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
You also cannot assume that the screwups on the cars are entirely the shop's fault either. I guess a common scenerio is when a customer brings in a car (wants this, that, and everything). After all the hard pieces are put together the customer goes out and beats on the car like there is no tomorrow. He/she then brings it to a questionable tuning place or (EEEEK) gets a mailorder chip and the car detonates and backfires until the motor blows. Then the customer turns around and starts pointing at the shop and flames them all over the internet)

Doesn't see fair if you ask me....

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I feel you there, Thats why when I got my 98 back from BBR, I let sheldon drive it around first along with me breaking in the motor for 1000miles, then he and I drove up to Mustang Ranch to over see the tuning that Byron did on my car. After the car didnt make the power it was supposed to make, thats when BBR said he would rebuild my auto tranny. Took it to the strip with Sheldon there to watch, when it didnt run what we expected, sheldon changed the spark plugs with a different gap, ran the car again and statred backfiring mid track. The best the new motor ran with slicks was 13.8. My stock 98 motor with bolt-ons ran 14.1 on street tires.

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It sounds like the tune that Mustang Ranch (was Byron tuning there at this time?)was off a bit. I don't know about your tranny deal (did you smoke it on the dyno or was in a bad condition before you got there?). You got to realize that back in the autologic chip(Byron) days tunes were hit and miss and if Byron had 50 guys waiting (remember he was basically the only tuner in the bay area) to get tuned on a single day, things were going to get missed...nothing against Byron as he did a great job on my personal car, but everyone is human and if he had crowds waiting he would basically just try to make sure you were not going to be too lean when you drove your car off (this means having your fuel tables dumping like fire hydrants at all opportunities). This could account for your lackluster performance at the track as backfiring is a sure sign that the tune is off (not the motor itself that was built).

When did BBR racing build your motor (what kind?)? If we are talking 4.6 then yeah...back in the days (98? actually we are still in the infant 4.6 days:)) you would be hard pressed to find available parts(good parts anyway) to make a bulletproof 4.6. Perhaps this would account for the extra time it took the motor to be built? Then again..like I mentioned it is always best to talk to your builder before you set your expectation on when a project is to be done. This goes for everything...not just engine building.

Do you still have this motor? I'm curious if the current tuning aids SCT/PMS/tweecer has gotten your car cured or not?

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