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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Wasssahhh, i changed my mind about attending Wyotech, can't see myself in a auto position in 2-3 years so i signed up with Heald last year and tomorrow is my Orientation..Im going for Network Systems Admin, going for my Associates then heading all the way to Masters - Just wanna see if anyone is attending Heald and any complaints or not.. As of my Major, ive made good connects with many Networking personells - I work at Fedex so i get alot of Guys from Cisco, Siebel, SBC, IBM, Dell etc

Oh yeah its Heald College in Hayward off Industrial BLVD - Only thing that sux is that EVERYONE has to wear suit and tie to school EVERYDAY Not use to a tie

So what about you guys?
 

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Posted by mtbaughs (Member # 4052) on :
 
I went half way through their program at the milpitas campus several years back for computer tech. Class's are super easy. I pulled a 4.0 in all the class's I took there. Why did I leave before finishing? Well I saw that most guys who pulled a 4.0 through the whole program were lucky to be offered $14 an hour after schooling ended. Not only that but most people I talked to said that a degree from there was worth next to nothing. I've known several people like 5 or so who completed their programs and ended up with nothing career wise from it. Their job placement is a joke. To me it wasn't anywhere near worth the 20K it costs to complete your degree there. Junior college's are more respected and cost a shit load less. If I were you I would NOT choose Heald as a place to get an education. These types of school's are about making money for themselves period regardless of what they may tell you.

[ January 23, 2006, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: mtbaughs ]
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
Graduated Heald College here in SF, Mission Street Campus back in 98.
WORST 25K+ I've spent. I went through the entire 1 1/2 year program, extra 6 month MCSE, A+ Cert program, the whole 9 yards.
They barely teach you enough to get in, if at all. Everything I know is from myself. Heald sucks. Check out DeVry instead. I hear nothing but good things about them.
Stay away from Heald...you'll thanks me later.
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
Have a friend who went through it. He's working at a cement factory making 19 bucks an hour nothing related to what he studied for.

I think it was worthless.
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
dpost

[ January 23, 2006, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: castor ]
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 
I went to Heald...Business School. That got my foot in the door at Wells Fargo as a full time employee...granted I wasn't making that much money but at least I was in and working in the IT dept. Familiarized myself a little bit with with some stuff, at that time it was mostly pcs and Lan stuff. That gave enough experience to get a job at DHL Worldwide Epxress which paid a little over twice as much starting. Had an over all bump in pay by about 30k over a 4 year span. No longer there but still in the industry 10 years later. I feel that Heald helped me at least get my foot in the door even though it didn't pay well at first. Good luck

EDIT: If not Heald, how bout IT Technical Institute?

[ January 23, 2006, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: twisted54 ]
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 
I worked for 3 years doing desktop support, and i can say that IT is an underpaid and appreciated line of work more often then not. Its cool though, because i quit that shit, and am doing the loan officer gig now. I must say, DEFINATELY alot more $$$$$
 

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Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on :
 
Do NOT go to HEALD. I repeat DO NOT GO TO HEALD!!!!!! Like someone else said, its the worst $15k I spent. Its useless and waste of time. Save your money and go to a JC.

[ January 23, 2006, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Venomized93 ]
 

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Posted by Five Decimal Zero (Member # 1251) on :
 
I graduated from Heald campus in Milpitas in 2000. I wouldn't recommend going to Heald only because jobs in this industry are hard to come by. I was lucky and graduated before the techie wave ended. Now I have an AS degree and 6 years of real work experience to back. Like others said, look elsewhere, perhaps Devry.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
HOw about Getting my AS in Heald then getting my BS at DeVry? I already have many connects to get the step in the door right after my AS @ Heald ::

What do u guys think of both schools?
 

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Posted by svt306snake (Member # 1967) on :
 

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Originally posted by castor:
Graduated Heald College here in SF, Mission Street Campus back in 98.
WORST 25K+ I've spent. I went through the entire 1 1/2 year program, extra 6 month MCSE, A+ Cert program, the whole 9 yards.
They barely teach you enough to get in, if at all. Everything I know is from myself. Heald sucks. Check out DeVry instead. I hear nothing but good things about them.
Stay away from Heald...you'll thanks me later.

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Originally posted by castor:
Graduated Heald College here in SF, Mission Street Campus back in 98.
WORST 25K+ I've spent. I went through the entire 1 1/2 year program, extra 6 month MCSE, A+ Cert program, the whole 9 yards.
They barely teach you enough to get in, if at all. Everything I know is from myself. Heald sucks. Check out DeVry instead. I hear nothing but good things about them.
Stay away from Heald...you'll thanks me later.

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listen to this guy they suck on the real i went only cause the insurance ws paying glad i didnt cause i knew all of what they were teaching and plus computer are not the way to go man its played out and plus you'll be 2 years later when you finish think about the future

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Originally posted by SEMPERFI510:
Make sure if you do decide to go there that you can even transfer to Devry or transfer their credits to other schools. Perosnally I would go to a junior college and transfer to an accredited college, like a California State or UC. Even Devry's credits do not transfer to States or UC's. My boy tried to transfer his and was denied and now has to start from the bottom. Those places are in it for the money. I am glad I stayed away and went to a junior college then a state for my degree.

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Yeah i just got off the phone with a Admin at DeVry, they said if i have a 3.00 or above credit they will also provide $2000 off the tuition and that they have a contact with Heald to do the transfer so its available
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
I went to Heald. Took it very serious and went to night classes as extra. I was the only one in my class to get a 4.0 throughout. I was immediately offered jobs starting at $20 per hour but was planning back surgery for the following week so I couldn't take advantage of those. At that time I was in my very early 20's and had a great resume from the past as well.

In my opinion Heald was a very good experience
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I went to Heald. Took it very serious and went to night classes as extra. I was the only one in my class to get a 4.0 throughout. I was immediately offered jobs starting at $20 per hour but was planning back surgery for the following week so I couldn't take advantage of those. At that time I was in my very early 20's and had a great resume from the past as well.

In my opinion Heald was a very good experience

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Originally posted by SEMPERFI510:
Make sure if you do decide to go there that you can even transfer to Devry or transfer their credits to other schools. Perosnally I would go to a junior college and transfer to an accredited college, like a California State or UC. Even Devry's credits do not transfer to States or UC's. My boy tried to transfer his and was denied and now has to start from the bottom. Those places are in it for the money. I am glad I stayed away and went to a junior college then a state for my degree.

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Originally posted by n8y8:
Sorry if this has been said, but honestly I would just go to a JC then move on to a UC. If you pull good grades you can get all the grants and stuff (cal, pel grant and a few others). Plus your degree will hold more ground against other applicants. I had to hire a few people not too long ago and I interviewed a few folks that graduated from Heald and I will tell you that they really didnt know shit. I think that is more of a reflection of the school than the individual plus, I have heard nothing but bad things about heald and the grads. but you can take it upon yourself to expand your own knowledge on your own, and use Heald as a spring board. I started as a Network admin (BS in Comp Sci.) and got my MSCE and A+, But I have since moved on to programming and got my MCSD and MCP and no school IMO gets you ready for true on the job type tasks.

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qft do it right the first time and go to a csu or do the jc->uc route if its more feasible. you'll earn a whole lot more in the end, get more offers, and maybe save some money on the way.
 

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Posted by RiddlerGT (Member # 113) on :
 
I have had three close friends that went to heald, two of them graduated right when the tech industry was booming and both got picked up by people soft. Well as soon as the industry busted they were laid off and have never found a job even close to the pay at people soft of the opportunity to move up. They have all said that everything they learned they already knew or taught themselves and it was a waste of money. Also there job placement is a joke, for my third friend he never got hired by any company and ended up opening his own computer shop.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Sooo by the reviews it seems like after you graduate there its hard to find a good paying job but the thing is, you NEED connects to get in the door - I built my connects already i know about 8 different Presidents, District Managers, LAN Admins, System Admins around the Bay Area that come to fedex daily and they all gave me their cards, told me right after i get my AS to contact them and get in with them - As long as i take step in the door in that field i will be good to go - Well im going for orientation tomorrow so ill see what other students are saying....

Thanks alot guys, i know what to expect from Heald - lol
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Sooo by the reviews it seems like after you graduate there its hard to find a good paying job but the thing is, you NEED connects to get in the door - I built my connects already i know about 8 different Presidents, District Managers, LAN Admins, System Admins around the Bay Area that come to fedex daily and they all gave me their cards, told me right after i get my AS to contact them and get in with them - As long as i take step in the door in that field i will be good to go - Well im going for orientation tomorrow so ill see what other students are saying....

Thanks alot guys, i know what to expect from Heald - lol

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I would suggest to get "in" with these people asap. The best way to learn and to get more "bang for your buck" is to do "hands-on" work WHILE attending school...don't wait until you graduate and then go out into the field, for IT. I cannot stress this enough. The last thing you want is to graduate, get job offers for 15 bucks an hour because you don't have any "experience." Get the experience under your belt while in school and I can almost guarantee you'll be making a lot more than everyone else in your class.
Good luck, and study hard! I graduated with a 4.0 as well.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
UPDATE ::

Did alot of question asking today and found that recently Heald has signed more contracts with other Universitys , i talked to my Dean and she said after i recieve my AS degree and if my attendance and credits are good (above 3.0+) i can easily get into Cal State University or San Jose Or State University in SF And last years graduation polls indicated that 100% of the students from last year that graduated are working in their fields today - 2 years ago it was 98%..

What do you guys think of the update
 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
If your goal is to transfer to a UC, just go to a JC and get better resources, education is cheaper, more friendlier, more flexible class schedules, more transfer resources, and did I mention cheaper? Plus your AS will be more valid on paper. DOnt forget it is the resume that gets you in the door. And even in this day and age Heald just does not look good. Has a reputation for being an out route for slackers. (not saying that is true, but it is the image behind it). But like I said with the right determination you can make something good of a heald education.

I used to work at PeopleSoft, I was sorely over paid for what I did...
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by n8y8:
If your goal is to transfer to a UC, just go to a JC and get better resources, education is cheaper, more friendlier, more flexible class schedules, more transfer resources, and did I mention cheaper? Plus your AS will be more valid on paper. DOnt forget it is the resume that gets you in the door. And even in this day and age Heald just does not look good. Has a reputation for being an out route for slackers. (not saying that is true, but it is the image behind it). But like I said with the right determination you can make something good of a heald education.

I used to work at PeopleSoft, I was sorely over paid for what I did...

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
UPDATE ::

Did alot of question asking today and found that recently Heald has signed more contracts with other Universitys , i talked to my Dean and she said after i recieve my AS degree and if my attendance and credits are good (above 3.0+) i can easily get into Cal State University or San Jose Or State University in SF And last years graduation polls indicated that 100% of the students from last year that graduated are working in their fields today - 2 years ago it was 98%..

What do you guys think of the update

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You could easily get into SJ or SF state with a 3.0 gpa from a JC and save some money along the way.

There's also no way that I would believe that 100% of the students that graduated last year are working in their fields today. No way at all.

If you've already committed and set your mind to going there, then just make sure you get everything you can out of it. No use in looking back if you feel you made the right decision

[ January 24, 2006, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: 88gt ]
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88gt:
just make sure you get everything you can out of it. No use in looking back if you feel you made the right decision

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Well said
 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Yea man heald is not the end of the world. You can still make good with it. After all I made good with the Oakland Public School system so it can be done. Dont be afraid to try things on your own and learn outside of heald. Good luck.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Another thing i found out today is that you HAVE to wear dress clothing at Heald, Men HAVE to wear a TIE every school day except Fridays, No Jeans, No T Shirts - Has to be long sleeve shirts with a Tie I also talked to a DeVry counselor and she told me if i want i can come by DeVry and have a talk with her, their next semester begins March 3rd - If i attend a JC i would have to start from the bottom all the way to the top, meaning getting my Generals for 2years then adding on to my programm classes - Which will be 2 years just to get my generals, i can be graduated with Heald or DeVry by then in 18 months....
 

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Posted by Five Decimal Zero (Member # 1251) on :
 
I hated wearing ties at Heald... one of my boys used to wear a tie with a short sleeved Polo shirt
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by Five Decimal Zero:
I hated wearing ties at Heald... one of my boys used to wear a tie with a short sleeved Polo shirt

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Originally posted by 88gt:
just make sure you get everything you can out of it. No use in looking back if you feel you made the right decision

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Posted by mtbaughs (Member # 4052) on :
 

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
UPDATE ::

Did alot of question asking today and found that recently Heald has signed more contracts with other Universitys , i talked to my Dean and she said after i recieve my AS degree and if my attendance and credits are good (above 3.0+) i can easily get into Cal State University or San Jose Or State University in SF And last years graduation polls indicated that 100% of the students from last year that graduated are working in their fields today - 2 years ago it was 98%..

What do you guys think of the update

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Originally posted by n8y8:
Sorry if this has been said, but honestly I would just go to a JC then move on to a UC. If you pull good grades you can get all the grants and stuff (cal, pel grant and a few others). Plus your degree will hold more ground against other applicants. I had to hire a few people not too long ago and I interviewed a few folks that graduated from Heald and I will tell you that they really didnt know shit. I think that is more of a reflection of the school than the individual plus, I have heard nothing but bad things about heald and the grads. but you can take it upon yourself to expand your own knowledge on your own, and use Heald as a spring board. I started as a Network admin (BS in Comp Sci.) and got my MSCE and A+, But I have since moved on to programming and got my MCSD and MCP and no school IMO gets you ready for true on the job type tasks.

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Another thing i found out today is that you HAVE to wear dress clothing at Heald, Men HAVE to wear a TIE every school day except Fridays, No Jeans, No T Shirts - Has to be long sleeve shirts with a Tie I also talked to a DeVry counselor and she told me if i want i can come by DeVry and have a talk with her, their next semester begins March 3rd - If i attend a JC i would have to start from the bottom all the way to the top, meaning getting my Generals for 2years then adding on to my programm classes - Which will be 2 years just to get my generals, i can be graduated with Heald or DeVry by then in 18 months....

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Another thing i found out today is that you HAVE to wear dress clothing at Heald, Men HAVE to wear a TIE every school day except Fridays, No Jeans, No T Shirts - Has to be long sleeve shirts with a Tie I also talked to a DeVry counselor and she told me if i want i can come by DeVry and have a talk with her, their next semester begins March 3rd - If i attend a JC i would have to start from the bottom all the way to the top, meaning getting my Generals for 2years then adding on to my programm classes - Which will be 2 years just to get my generals, i can be graduated with Heald or DeVry by then in 18 months....

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hate to break it to you but it doesnt take 2 years to get your generals... You can get all your generals done in 4 semesters if you wanted to (including summer)

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Another thing i found out today is that you HAVE to wear dress clothing at Heald, Men HAVE to wear a TIE every school day except Fridays, No Jeans, No T Shirts - Has to be long sleeve shirts with a Tie I also talked to a DeVry counselor and she told me if i want i can come by DeVry and have a talk with her, their next semester begins March 3rd - If i attend a JC i would have to start from the bottom all the way to the top, meaning getting my Generals for 2years then adding on to my programm classes - Which will be 2 years just to get my generals, i can be graduated with Heald or DeVry by then in 18 months....

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hate to break it to you but it doesnt take 2 years to get your generals... You can get all your generals done in 4 semesters if you wanted to (including summer)

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I went to SF Community College for 8 months, and yes it woulda took me 2 years - my cousin just got his associates in Electronics at SF City College after attending there for 4 years and he attends school 4 days a week, 8am to 1pm

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Another thing i found out today is that you HAVE to wear dress clothing at Heald, Men HAVE to wear a TIE every school day except Fridays, No Jeans, No T Shirts - Has to be long sleeve shirts with a Tie I also talked to a DeVry counselor and she told me if i want i can come by DeVry and have a talk with her, their next semester begins March 3rd - If i attend a JC i would have to start from the bottom all the way to the top, meaning getting my Generals for 2years then adding on to my programm classes - Which will be 2 years just to get my generals, i can be graduated with Heald or DeVry by then in 18 months....

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hate to break it to you but it doesnt take 2 years to get your generals... You can get all your generals done in 4 semesters if you wanted to (including summer)

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I went to SF Community College for 8 months, and yes it woulda took me 2 years - my cousin just got his associates in Electronics at SF City College after attending there for 4 years and he attends school 4 days a week, 8am to 1pm

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If it took him that long then he must of not taken many classes. I got my bachelors in 4.5 years.

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