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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
I am the proud owner of my first 5.0,its the 1984 CFI AOD HO mustang LX. What can i do with this motor as far modifications? Can anyone help me out far as specs for this year.Its has gears from what i can tell and a 7.5 rear( which I am changing to an 8.8) ,single exhaust power windows and locks rear defrost, grey cloth interior,A/C, I have'nt really gotten the hood open yet, but i am gonna give it a thorough tune and washing soon. in the future I may change the front bumper to a 86 GT! I'll probably repaint it Black and getnew moldings and 5.0 badges and Of course put some Welds on it! hopefully it will up to snuff by the 2nd gathering! Thanks for looking.

The LX 5.0 Kid

Ernesto

 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
DOnt get discouraged, because you have a real gem here. But you will need to do a lil bit to get this up to where a 5.0 should be. First off, the 5.0 in there is not the more powerful motors found in the 86 and up's. But the good thing is that is carbeurated. Carbed motors are fun to mod. I'd try to find a motor out of a 92 5.0 to get the forged internals (or you may get lucky and find a motor with hyperpneumatic internals) You are going to need a double hump cross member to run true dual exhaust. Right now it probably has a y-pipe with a single hump x-member. You already know about the rear end. I'd change that soon. All in all you have a real gem here. Dont sell it! Unmolested 4 eyeds are hard to find these days.

I'd start mods with the rear end, alum drive shaft, exhaust and sub frame connectors.

Congrats on the find.
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 
175 hp
 

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Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
don't forget that u have a coupe, so in the long run your car is going to be worth more then a gt or lx hacth
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 

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Originally posted by losbadgts:
don't forget that u have a coupe, so in the long run your car is going to be worth more then a gt or lx hacth

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How's that work?
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 

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Originally posted by 84GT5.0:
175 hp

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
How's that work?

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I think it has to do with production numbers and cars still on the road. I know the are lighter, so more adept for racing. Not sure of the numbers for 83. There is a mustang registry where you can put in your vin number and get some good info about your car. I forgot the url...Ill post it if I remember it.
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 
i know the 84's are non roller, cast internals, horrible heads, and the cfi unit is very restrivtive. slap an 87-92 motor in that bitch. Thats what i was going to do with my 84 gt but i needed cash quick so i sold it
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
How's that work?

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I think it has to do with production numbers and cars still on the road. I know the are lighter, so more adept for racing. Not sure of the numbers for 83. There is a mustang registry where you can put in your vin number and get some good info about your car. I forgot the url...Ill post it if I remember it.

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
I am the proud owner of my first 5.0,its the 1984 CFI AOD HO mustang LX. What can i do with this motor as far modifications? Can anyone help me out far as specs for this year.Its has gears from what i can tell and a 7.5 rear( which I am changing to an 8.8) ,single exhaust power windows and locks rear defrost, grey cloth interior,A/C, I have'nt really gotten the hood open yet, but i am gonna give it a thorough tune and washing soon. in the future I may change the front bumper to a 86 GT! I'll probably repaint it Black and getnew moldings and 5.0 badges and Of course put some Welds on it! hopefully it will up to snuff by the 2nd gathering! Thanks for looking.

The LX 5.0 Kid

Ernesto

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Originally posted by Jdub07:

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
I am the proud owner of my first 5.0,its the 1984 CFI AOD HO mustang LX. What can i do with this motor as far modifications? Can anyone help me out far as specs for this year.Its has gears from what i can tell and a 7.5 rear( which I am changing to an 8.8) ,single exhaust power windows and locks rear defrost, grey cloth interior,A/C, I have'nt really gotten the hood open yet, but i am gonna give it a thorough tune and washing soon. in the future I may change the front bumper to a 86 GT! I'll probably repaint it Black and getnew moldings and 5.0 badges and Of course put some Welds on it! hopefully it will up to snuff by the 2nd gathering! Thanks for looking.

The LX 5.0 Kid

Ernesto

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If you are in the Newark area then go to pick N pull. There is a 92 lx 4banger there with an 8.8 rear end in it. Color is tourqois with shitty silver racing stripes. Cant miss it

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thank you sir!
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
Wut up molester.

LOL @ "if your really lucky you can get hypereutectic internals".....why would you want hypereutectic pistons instead of forged?

Anyways, The good news is most if not everything from an 87-93 will fit. I'm sure you can get the front suspension from a newer one to run the 11" brakes instead of the 10" ones in there right now. Stuff is cheap bro and you can get some extra umph out of it. Shit if you wanted to you can fuel injected and still pass the smog check.

[ January 06, 2006, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Fostang ]
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
a 4 banger with an 8.8? you sure? Or you can call up eating ass mullet for one of his rears with gears.


at least your coupe aint on jackstands.........

[ January 06, 2006, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Fostang ]
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fostang:
Wut up molester.

LOL @ "if your really lucky you can get hypereutectic internals".....why would you want hypereutectic pistons instead of forged?

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no he said hyperpneumatic "get lucky and find a motor with hyperpneumatic internals"

I think thats one step above forged



j/p
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
I found this.....I love the internet!


5.0 LX Tech, Chapter 1A
Mustang Specifications

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Wheelbase : 100.5"
Length : 179.1" 1979-84
179.3" 1985-86
179.6" 1987-93

Width : 67.4" 1979-82
69.1" 1983-89
68.3" 1990-93

Track F/R : 57.9"/57.0"

Fuel Capacity : 12.25 gal. 1979
15.40 gal. 19832-93

Weight Distribution
Weight, Body Auto/Manual [Auto] [Manual]
---- ----------- --------------------
Sedan, 3097/3037 # [59.2/40.8] [59.3/40.7]
Hatchback, 3162/3102 # [58.0/42.0] [57.8/42.2]
Covertible, 3238/3298 # [57.8/42.2] [57.8/42.2]

Bore : 4.00"
Stroke : 3.00"
Bore Spacing : 4.380"
Main journal : 2.2486"
Rod journal : 2.1232"
Rod length : 5.09"
Intake valve : 1.782"
Exhaust valves : 1.45"
Firing Order : 15426378, 1979-81
13726548, 1982-93

Compresssion Ratio : 8.4:1 1979
8.3:1 1982-84
8.4:1 1985
8.4:1 1986
9.0:1 1987-93

Horsepower : 146 @ 3600 RPM 1979
157 @ 4200 RPM 1982
175 @ 4200 RPM 1983
165 @ 3800 RPM 1984 CFI
175 @ 4200 RPM 1984 Bbl
180 @ 4200 RPM 1985 CFI
210 @ 4400 RPM 1985 Bbl
200 @ 4000 RPM 1986
225 @ 4200 RPM 1987-92
205 @ 4200 RPM 1993

Torque, ft-lb : 250 @ 1800 RPM 1979
240 @ 2400 RPM 1982
245 @ 2400 RPM 1983
245 @ 2000 RPM 1984 CFI
245 @ 2400 RPM 1984 Bbl
260 @ 2600 RPM 1985 CFI
270 @ 3200 RPM 1985 Bbl
285 @ 3000 RPM 1986
300 @ 3200 RPM 1987-92
275 @ 3000 RPM 1993
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fostang:
a 4 banger with an 8.8? you sure? Or you can call up eating ass mullet for one of his rears with gears.


at least your coupe aint on jackstands.........

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Yeah it was my car for about a month or so until I was done rapeing the interior out. Had the rear end looked at by a couple people and was confirmed to be a 8.8 and the guy I bought the car from said an 8.8 was put in it...WAS going to be a conversion car.
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
Production Numbers:
66B 2dr Sedan: 37,680
61B 3dr Hatchback: 86,200
66B 2dr Convertible: 17,600
Total: 141,480

20th Anniversary Edition
3dr Turbo GT: 350
3dr 5.0L GT: 3,333
2dr Convertible Turbo GT: 104
2dr Convertible 5.0L GT: 1,213
Ford VIP Convertibles: 15
Ford of Canada (total): 245
Total: 5,260

Available Engines:
2.3L 2V 4cyl 88hp
2.3L EFI 4cyl 145hp (Turbo GT)
2.3L EFI 4cyl 175hp (SVO)
3.8L EFI V-6 120hp
5.0L EFI V-8 165hp
5.0L EFI V-8 175hp (HO)

Available Exterior Colors Color
Code

Black
1C

Silver Metallic
1E

Bright Canyon Red
27

Dark Academy Blue Metallic
5C

Light Desert Tan
8Q

Oxford White
9L

Dark Charcoal Metallic
9W

Medium Canyon Red Glow
2B

Light Academy Blue Glow
35

Bright Copper Glow
9C

Desert Tan Glow
9J


Retail Prices:
Coupe: $7,089.00
Convertible $11,840.00
Hatchback: $7,260.00



Interior Trim Code
Charcoal A
Cadet Blue B
Canyon Red D
Desert Tan H
White/Red (Convertible) N
White/Blue (Convertible) Q
White/Charcoal (Convertible) W



Vehicle Identification Numbers
Engine Codes 2.3L 2V 4cyl 88hp A
2.3L EFI 4cyl 145hp (Turbo GT) T
2.3L EFI 4cyl 175hp (SVO) W
3.8L EFI V-6 120hp 3
5.0L EFI V-8 165hp F
5.0L EFI V-8 175hp (HO) M
1FA - Ford Motor Co.
B - Restraint system (B-active belts)
P - Passenger car
26 - Body code (26 - 2dr sedan, 27 - 2dr convertible, 28 - 3dr hatchback)
A - Engine code
6 - Check digit (varies)
D - Year (D - 1984)
F - Plant (F-Dearborn)
000001 - Consecutive unit number
Example: 1FABP26A6DF000001

Location: Stamped on the plate which is riveted to the driver's side of the dash, visible through windshield; the certification label is attached to the rear face of the driver's door.



Mustang Performance
1984 Ford Mustang SVO
0-60 mph: 7.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 15.8 sec
 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fostang:

LOL @ "if your really lucky you can get hypereutectic internals".....why would you want hypereutectic pistons instead of forged?

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:
I found this.....I love the internet!


5.0 LX Tech, Chapter 1A
Mustang Specifications

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Wheelbase : 100.5"
Length : 179.1" 1979-84
179.3" 1985-86
179.6" 1987-93

Width : 67.4" 1979-82
69.1" 1983-89
68.3" 1990-93

Track F/R : 57.9"/57.0"

Fuel Capacity : 12.25 gal. 1979
15.40 gal. 19832-93

Weight Distribution
Weight, Body Auto/Manual [Auto] [Manual]
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Sedan, 3097/3037 # [59.2/40.8] [59.3/40.7]
Hatchback, 3162/3102 # [58.0/42.0] [57.8/42.2]
Covertible, 3238/3298 # [57.8/42.2] [57.8/42.2]

Bore : 4.00"
Stroke : 3.00"
Bore Spacing : 4.380"
Main journal : 2.2486"
Rod journal : 2.1232"
Rod length : 5.09"
Intake valve : 1.782"
Exhaust valves : 1.45"
Firing Order : 15426378, 1979-81
13726548, 1982-93

Compresssion Ratio : 8.4:1 1979
8.3:1 1982-84
8.4:1 1985
8.4:1 1986
9.0:1 1987-93

Horsepower : 146 @ 3600 RPM 1979
157 @ 4200 RPM 1982
175 @ 4200 RPM 1983
165 @ 3800 RPM 1984 CFI
175 @ 4200 RPM 1984 Bbl
180 @ 4200 RPM 1985 CFI
210 @ 4400 RPM 1985 Bbl
200 @ 4000 RPM 1986
225 @ 4200 RPM 1987-92
205 @ 4200 RPM 1993

Torque, ft-lb : 250 @ 1800 RPM 1979
240 @ 2400 RPM 1982
245 @ 2400 RPM 1983
245 @ 2000 RPM 1984 CFI
245 @ 2400 RPM 1984 Bbl
260 @ 2600 RPM 1985 CFI
270 @ 3200 RPM 1985 Bbl
285 @ 3000 RPM 1986
300 @ 3200 RPM 1987-92
275 @ 3000 RPM 1993

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Originally posted by Fostang:
Do you have a guilty concience there buddy?

BTW I was talking to Ernesto the Molester.

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i got your 'Nightstick' right here Sal!
 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
nope no guilt here.....Just didnt understand the comment.

lol...I would stick to a 600 aftermarket upgrade too. Just trying to help dude out get a good foundation. Not sure what your engine internals have to do with the prices of peaches in Georgia, but here is a cookie for you......

[ January 06, 2006, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: n8y8 ]
 

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Posted by blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
8.8 rear swap w/gears
T5 swap
87-92 engine swap
87-93 front spindle swap, booster and m/c swap

call it a day
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 

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Originally posted by Camaro Kid Z/28:

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Originally posted by Fostang:
Do you have a guilty concience there buddy?

BTW I was talking to Ernesto the Molester.

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i got your 'Nightstick' right here Sal!

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I need a 31" ASP not a 2" tumb tack.
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 

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Originally posted by blind:
8.8 rear swap w/gears
T5 swap
87-92 engine swap
87-93 front spindle swap, booster and m/c swap

call it a day

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I concur.
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
what gears in the 7.5 are available? it tachs out on the freeway @3000rpm, with 235/60R15's. i put it into O/D and its drops too 2000rpm!
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
how fast are you going at that rpm?

60mph or 80? LOL
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fostang:
how fast are you going at that rpm?

60mph or 80? LOL

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Originally posted by Fostang:
how fast are you going at that rpm?

60mph or 80? LOL

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It says 75 mph. did'nt these cars come with those wierd 390 metric tires?

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does it have the split 3 spoke wheels (trx's) If so then they are metric
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 
but you said it says 235/60R15 on the tires and in the pic it looks like it has 87-90 gt wheels (TURBINES) so they arent metric.

[ January 06, 2006, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: 84GT5.0 ]
 

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Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 5012) on :
 
Man I want some "hyperpneumatic" internals Must be some new shit
 

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Posted by Dizzy (Member # 884) on :
 

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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
Man I want some "hyperpneumatic" internals Must be some new shit

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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
Man I want some "hyperpneumatic" internals Must be some new shit

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Originally posted by n8y8:
Nah nothing new about em ford had forged flattops until they went hyper in 92....I am may be using the wrong "Hyper" word tho or misspelling it...lol. Its hypereutic, hyperpneumatic or hyper-something. lol.

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lol...yea...I know it was hyper something.. SHould have just used the common term "hyper" instead of trying to be a smart ass and use the full thing.

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by n8y8:
Yea they are a step above forged, but sometimes that is debated, I can go into a long speech about it but I wont.

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I would really like to hear this debate, because I want see who you can justify a crappy piston is better than a forged piston
 

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Posted by n8y8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
lol...thats exactly why I wont go into it. Always really rigid opinions. Almost like say PC is better than a MAC. The outcome is never good. But like I said I was just giving my opinion to the topic starter....which is what he asked.

Back on Topic
 

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Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I agree I wouldn't run the Hyper (pieces of garbage) in anything I ever wanted to modify or actualy had to buy pistons for. maybe somebody told you that when they only had hyper pistons to sell you.

Anyhow nice start to a good mustang. Yank all that CFI stuff out as fast as you can and upgrade it or just make a race car out of it. Don't waste your time trying to modify it. The CFI doesn't respond to mods very well you will always have drivability problems with it.
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 
Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:
Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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i want in on a piece of that action.

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Originally posted by uh0h50:
sweet coupe, did you buy it off of foxbody (steve)?

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yeah i got it off steve.
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 

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I'd try to find a motor out of a 92 5.0 to get the forged internals (or you may get lucky and find a motor with hyperpneumatic internals)

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Originally posted by n8y8:
I'd try to find a motor out of a 92 5.0 to get the forged internals (or you may get lucky and find a motor with hyperpneumatic internals)

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Actually all 85-92 Mustang HO Motors have forged pistons,93 went to HYPEREUTECTIC!

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Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
Man I want some "hyperpneumatic" internals Must be some new shit

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They are some hyphy ass pistons!

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you said hyphy
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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i want in on a piece of that action.

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Are you sure? He's the top 10 most wanted by San Jose PD!

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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i want in on a piece of that action.

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Are you sure? He's the top 10 most wanted by San Jose PD!

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that just makes it interesting

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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i want in on a piece of that action.

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Are you sure? He's the top 10 most wanted by San Jose PD!

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that just makes it interesting

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It makes me want to raise the bet from $1, to $5.

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let me make it easy on you and just hit up your old man for the $$$$ now!(thats where it be coming from anyways)
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Finally Ernesto.

Wanna race for cash?

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i want in on a piece of that action.

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Are you sure? He's the top 10 most wanted by San Jose PD!

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that just makes it interesting

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It makes me want to raise the bet from $1, to $5.

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let me make it easy on you and just hit up your old man for the $$$$ now!(thats where it be coming from anyways)

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Pshh...$5 is a lot of money already!
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Paint that bitch Orange. Do everything listed above except 94-95 Spindles and 5 lug it. Why waste the time or money to swap it out to still a 4 lug??? If you do it, do it right.
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
i m just gonna upgrade the exhuast,lower it,put the 10 holers,install some cobra roller rockers,change the Air fitler housing(too restictive) Probably an open air element with an K&N. thats it for now. thanks for all your input everyone.

Ernesto
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
I have some wheels that would look good on it.

They are only 15's but the good thing is that you can use the tires you have.

They are black center with a polished lip.
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 
ten holes look worse than the turbines. Pony's or welds IMO.
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
if you guys can help a brother out?!

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=012886;p=1#000000
 

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