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Posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF (Member # 5585) on :

http://www.ktvu.com/deathrow/5519596/detail.html

Schwarzenegger Denies Williams Clemency Plea

POSTED: 12:37 pm PST December 12, 2005
UPDATED: 12:54 pm PST December 12, 2005

SAN QUENTIN -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday refused to spare the life of Stanley Tookie Williams, the founder of the murderous Crips gang who awaited execution after midnight in a case that stirred debate over capital punishment and the possibility of redemption on death row.

Schwarzenegger was unswayed by pleas from Hollywood stars and petitions from more than 50,000 people who said that Williams had made amends during more than two decades in prison by writing a memoir and children's books about the dangers of gangs.

"After studying the evidence, searching the history, listening to the arguments and wrestling with the profound consequences, I could find no justification for granting clemency," Schwarzenegger said, less than 12 hours before the execution. "The facts do not justify overturning the jury's verdict or the decisions of the courts in this case."

Schwarzenegger could have commuted the death sentence to life in prison without parole.

With a reprieve from the federal courts considered unlikely, Williams, 51, was set to die by injection at San Quentin State Prison early Tuesday for murdering four people in two 1979 holdups.

Williams' fate became one of the nation's biggest death-row cause celebres in decades.

Prosecutors and victims' advocates contended Williams was undeserving of clemency from the governor because he did not own up to his crimes and refused to inform on fellow gang members. They also argued that the Crips gang that Williams co-founded in Los Angeles in 1971 is responsible for hundreds of deaths, many of them in battles with the rival Bloods for turf and control of the drug trade.

Williams stood to become the 12th California condemned inmate executed since lawmakers reinstated the death penalty in 1977 after a brief hiatus.

Williams was condemned in 1981 for gunning down a clerk in a convenience store holdup and a mother, father and daughter in a motel robbery weeks later. Williams claimed he was innocent.

The last time a California governor granted clemency was in 1967, when Ronald Reagan spared a mentally infirm killer. Schwarzenegger -- a Republican who has come under fire from members of his own party as too accommodating to liberals -- rejected clemency twice before during his two years in office.

Just before the governor announced his decision on clemency, the 9th U.S. Circuit of Appeals denied Williams' request for a reprieve, saying among other things that there was no "clear and convincing evidence of actual innocence."

In his last-ditch appeal, Williams claimed that he should have been allowed to argue at his trial that someone else killed one of the four victims, and that shoddy forensics connected him to the other killings.

Williams was convicted of killing Yen-I Yang, 76, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, 63, and Yu-Chin Yang Lin, 43, at a Los Angeles motel the family owned, and Albert Owens, 26, a 7-Eleven clerk gunned down in Whittier.

Among the celebrities who took up Williams' cause were Jamie Foxx, who played the gang leader in a cable movie about Williams; rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a former Crip; Sister Helen Prejean, the nun depicted in "Dead Man Walking"; Bianca Jagger; and former "M..A..S..H" star Mike Farrell. During Williams' 24 years on death row, a Swiss legislator, college professors and others nominated him for the Nobel Prizes in peace and literature.

"If Stanley Williams does not merit clemency," defense attorney Peter Fleming Jr. asked, "what meaning does clemency retain in this state?"

The impending execution resulted in feverish preparations over the weekend by those on both sides of the debate, with the California Highway Patrol planning to tighten security outside the prison, where hundreds of protesters were expected.

A group of about three dozen death penalty protesters were joined by the Rev. Jesse Jackson as they marched across the Golden Gate Bridge after dawn Monday en route to the gates of San Quentin, where they were expected to rally with hundreds of people.

At least publicly, the person apparently least occupied with his fate seemed to be Williams himself.

"Me fearing what I'm facing, what possible good is it going to do for me? How is that going to benefit me?" Williams said in a recent interview. "If it's my time to be executed, what's all the ranting and raving going to do?"

here is also a link to all of the people currently on death row

http://images.ibsys.com/2005/0311/4276403.pdf

[ December 12, 2005, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF ]

Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=023388;p=5

Yup, last post [Smile]

Posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF (Member # 5585) on :

oops... sorry didnt read that thread yet...

Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :

Is ok, probly better to start a new one anyways [Smile]

Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :

The only thing that Williams had going for him was hope.
I'm not a "fan" of the death penalty, and can see arguments from both sides, but the bottom line is that the death penalty is law here in Cali... and after reading a ton of articles on his case, I can honestly say that I hope there is closure for all parties involved.

RIP [patriot]

Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :

Now another question lies, will there be rioting?

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

thank fucking god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by klonoa:
Now another question lies, will there be rioting?

me and my uncle have a bet going to on to see if there is going to be rioting. i say there is going to be rioting and my uncle thinks there wont.

Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :

They should have been done with this crap earlier to save us some tax money.

Posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF (Member # 5585) on :

i think that there will be rioting like no tommorrow... guess we'll find out soon enough....

Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :

I also heard that Tookie had connects from inside the Cells to Crips on the streets :: Since he was the original leader -

Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :

Terminated.

dont do the crime, if you dont wanna do the time....

Posted by quick99 (Member # 6291) on :

The main problem with the death penalty is making sure you have the guilty person. There have been over 120 people on death row that were found to be innocent. Just think how many other innocent people have been executed????
If he is innocent or not, keeping him alive will do way more than killing him. If he can help change the lives for the good of some, let him live. With him dead, he can help no one.

Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :

If he REEEEEEAAAAALLLLYY wants kids to learn not to be in gangs and kill other people then he should stick himself with the needle and last words being "see children, if you kill, do drugs and are in gangs THIS could be you" then he dies.

the end

hahaha

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
If he REEEEEEAAAAALLLLYY wants kids to learn not to be in gangs and kill other people then he should stick himself with the needle and last words being "see children, if you kill, do drugs and are in gangs THIS could be you" then he dies.

the end

hahaha

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

It's too bad the victim's family's have had to see Him living His life all this time while their family member's lives were cut short for some pocket change. [Roll Eyes]

This also suck's for us taxpayer's who have payed million's to keep this animal alive all these year's. Maybe some of these idiot's will realize that the state is serious about carrying out their sentences and won'tbe so quick to pull the trigger on innocent people. I hope He is as scared now as the people were before He took their lives. R.I.P Bitch!

Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on :

I see and understand both sides of the argument but becuase of what he has done and created(crips) and what they have done there will be no forgiving tookie. But i think there will be there will be rioting there are to many hot headed people out there for there not to be any.
RIP Tookie [patriot]

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF:
i think that there will be rioting like no tommorrow... guess we'll find out soon enough....

i hope not,,

Posted by Bizob (Member # 3768) on :

good [patriot]

Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :

hmmmmm at 12:01 am it will be the '13'th...... [Confused]

some irony there!?

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Hasta la Vista.....baby

Shoulda been done much sooner.

Posted by biggmatt (Member # 1124) on :

terminated by the terminator...gotta love it

Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on :

quote:
Originally posted by biggmatt:
terminated by the terminator...gotta love it

LOL yup Governator aquired the target and is ready to terminate.

Posted by 1990Silver5.0 (Member # 6210) on :

He getting what he deserves.

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

Shame he isn't getting the chair. I could see the parody songs about it.

Just imagine Limp Bizkit singing about Tookie.

Tookie's going to bake like a cookie,
what?,
a cookie!,
what!

[Razz]

[ December 12, 2005, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: 1Sicgt ]

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
Shame he isn't getting the chair. I could see the parody songs about it.

Just imagine Limp Bizkit singing about Tookie.

Tookie's going to fry like a cookie,
what?,
a cookie!,
what!

dont you bake cookies? lol

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

It doesn't quite have the same ring to it. [Wink]

Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :

quote:
Originally posted by quick99:
The main problem with the death penalty is making sure you have the guilty person. There have been over 120 people on death row that were found to be innocent. Just think how many other innocent people have been executed????
If he is innocent or not, keeping him alive will do way more than killing him. If he can help change the lives for the good of some, let him live. With him dead, he can help no one.

he has been on death row since what 1981? he has had plenty of time to prove that he is innocent.and yes he has changed peoples lives in fact he ended 4 of them(well that he was caught for)....Arnold made the correct decision [patriot]

[ December 12, 2005, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: HaulinAssMaro ]

Posted by stateokunfusion (Member # 5439) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
This also suck's for us taxpayer's who have payed million's to keep this animal alive all these year's.

It costs the taxpayers less to keep him alive than to kill him [Eek!]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

There will be rioting because Tookie will give the order to his gang to riot.

Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :

Terminated.

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

Sweet dreams Tookie bookie

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

well if youre a tookie supporter, you wont be after viewing this.....*Graphic pics of victims*

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/tookiewilliamsvictims.html
my clock says 11:05....56 minutes and counting. Hope that fucking murderer is shitting his pants, just as his victims were right before being shot point black with a 12 GA shotgun. Fry tookie!!!! You
motherfucker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ December 13, 2005, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: 84GT5.0 ]

Posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:
well if youre a tookie supporter, you wont be after viewing this.....*Graphic pics of victims*

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/tookiewilliamsvictims.html
my clock says 11:05....56 minutes and counting. Hope that fucking murderer is shitting his pants, just as his victims were right before being shot point black with a 12 GA shotgun. Fry tookie!!!! You
motherfucker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow... that was pretty graphic tho.... i dont even know wat to say or think... thats cruel.

Posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF (Member # 5585) on :

oh yeah i forgot to mention... i was watching the news in between commercial breaks and there is already like 1500 ppl out at san quentin and everyone is pissed!

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LiL_MZ_MiSChEiF:
oh yeah i forgot to mention... i was watching the news in between commercial breaks and there is already like 1500 ppl out at san quentin and everyone is pissed!

fuck them as well as anyone who riots...he fucking killed people for christs sakes. Any anyone that riots and or loots, is just an opportunist, capitalizing on tookie's execution. ghey..those people need to be at home with their families.

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quick question.... has anyone ever survived a lethal injection??? and is there some law that says is they survive it they are free?? or something like that anyways???

Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
quick question.... has anyone ever survived a lethal injection??? and is there some law that says is they survive it they are free?? or something like that anyways???

I'am not sure if its possible to survive a lethal injection and if somebody does they better not be put back on the streets.

Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
quick question.... has anyone ever survived a lethal injection??? and is there some law that says is they survive it they are free?? or something like that anyways???

no, they wont live
but if they did they would just do it again and get to killin

only a few more minutes until this scumbag is toast [patriot]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

rioters should be shot.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

damn..everyones stayin up for this..RIP

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
rioters should be shot.

damn straight

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

2 min to go.

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 9Venom9:
2 min to go.

its like the countdown to new years

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

Tookies picture makes me sad. He looks like a frail old man too bad he screwed up.

RIP

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

Good night killer!

Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :

R.I.P

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

hasta lavista baby (sp?)

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

damn..i wonder wha is goin through his head..i know wha he did aint rite but killing him aint rite also i think..but like they said earlyer..its 50/50...they found out the 50% of he death penalty people almost killed are innocent..i think they have killed 6 and found out 6 other were not guilty...well RIP..

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

goodnight.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

[Frown]

Posted by Juiced-03 (Member # 2245) on :

quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
R.I.P

More like burn in hell.

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
they found out the 50% of he death penalty people almost killed are innocent..i think they have killed 6 and found out 6 other were not guilty...well RIP..

No offense, find a report stating that - from a government agency.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

if i can i will..but how many time u hear bout jail and shit like that putting innocent people in jail? jus a few days ago some dude was let out of jail after spending over 20yrs in jail for something he didnt do..

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..i wonder wha is goin through his head..i know wha he did aint rite but killing him aint rite also i think..but like they said earlyer..its 50/50...they found out the 50% of he death penalty people almost killed are innocent..i think they have killed 6 and found out 6 other were not guilty...well RIP..

everyone that thinks it's not right, change their mind when i ask if they would still feel the same, if they were related to one of the victims. (holy runon sentence batman [Eek!]

)

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

shut up chris [Razz]

u and the runon sentence [Big Grin]

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Juiced-03:

quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
R.I.P
More like burn in hell.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

this for u 94gt

Death Penalty:
The death penalty is the greatest denial of civil liberties. Innocent people are being sentenced to death. In the past 30 years, 122 inmates were found to be innocent and released from death row. The ACLU is working toward a moratorium on the death penalty.

http://www.aclu.org/capital/index.html

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6

[ December 13, 2005, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: 89 FAKE SNAKE ]

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..i wonder wha is goin through his head..i know wha he did aint rite but killing him aint rite also i think..but like they said earlyer..its 50/50...they found out the 50% of he death penalty people almost killed are innocent..i think they have killed 6 and found out 6 other were not guilty...well RIP..

He had 25 years to prove dif...guess he couldn't huh!

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
shut up chris u and the runon sentence

lol fuck off lol btw ru sitting there reading this in basketball shorts? lmfao!!!!!

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

So hes dead, did he give any statements before they injected him? Like "don't riot for me" or "I did it i am guilty"

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
shut up chris u and the runon sentence
lol fuck off lol btw ru sitting there reading this in basketball shorts? lmfao!!!!!

hell ya..got my jordans on..lmao..

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
So hes dead, did he give any statements before they injected him? Like "don't riot for me" or "I did it i am guilty"

wont know till they all come out..wont find out for maybe another half hour..

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...

[ December 13, 2005, 02:06 AM: Message edited by: LIL MZ MISCHEIF ]

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

i jus cant wait till scott petersons gets it..1 month left..much i dnt lik it or all he NEED'S to get it.

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...

I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.

thats probably the truth...

Posted by 5.0Caliber (Member # 5865) on :

Tookie is to be executed tuesday december 13th, Jamie foxx's birthday is also on this day. Jamie foxx played stanley "tookie" williams in redemption. I dont know, alittle 6 degress i guess.

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
i jus cant wait till scott petersons gets it..1 month left..much i dnt lik it or all he NEED'S to get it.

they already set his date? good that fucker needs to die too

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
this for u 94gt

Death Penalty:
The death penalty is the greatest denial of civil liberties. Innocent people are being sentenced to death. In the past 30 years, 122 inmates were found to be innocent and released from death row. The ACLU is working toward a moratorium on the death penalty.

http://www.aclu.org/capital/index.html

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6

The 1st link, I refuse to look at... the aclu are up to too many tricky things... The 2nd one the executive director is "an adjunct professor at the Catholic University Law School."

I'm talking about an -unbiased- document from the state, or a state agency, that gives those numbers... not a website that sounds like a personal/ biased opinion. [Wink]

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

its all good..jus sayin cali system is FUKED UP from children shit to jails..thas my opinion..

chris..from wha i heard its in january..

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
Tookie is to be executed tuesday december 13th, Jamie foxx's birthday is also on this day. Jamie foxx played stanley "tookie" williams in redemption. I dont know, alittle 6 degress i guess.

Unless they picked Fox because of his birthday because weill hate to say it,,well no I am not but Tookies execution date has been set long before that movie was made.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

damn..wtf..they couldnt find tookies vains they said..tha tru dana? cnat find vains when ur like that?thought they popped out everywhere [Big Grin]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
i jus cant wait till scott petersons gets it..1 month left..much i dnt lik it or all he NEED'S to get it.
they already set his date? good that fucker needs to die too

how is Scott Peterson being put to death only 2 years after murdering his life and it took 20 years to kill Tookie?

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..wtf..they couldnt find tookies vains they said..tha tru dana? cnat find vains when ur like that?thought they popped out everywhere

when you get old your veins are hard to find.

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
chris..from wha i heard its in january..

ill stay up all night posting for that one too lol

not to threadjack but parker, is it still cool if i come through to get that wiring harness piece?

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...

And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..wtf..they couldnt find tookies vains they said..tha tru dana? cnat find vains when ur like that?thought they popped out everywhere

so is that scum still alive? or did they find a vein

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

ya hit me up...hung out aint nothing..have to keep friends and peopl jus to stay alive in there i think..but it is werid..

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..wtf..they couldnt find tookies vains they said..tha tru dana? cnat find vains when ur like that?thought they popped out everywhere
when you get old your veins are hard to find.

the only problem i ever had drawing blood on an older person is their skin... other than that it was ok.... but normally wen u cant find someone's veins in their arms u go for their hands or even legs or necks...

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
damn..wtf..they couldnt find tookies vains they said..tha tru dana? cnat find vains when ur like that?thought they popped out everywhere

Only if your on roids lol

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.

maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.
maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...

by working out with them? hmmm, I dunno.

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

God will the hurry up and say he is dead so I can go to bed.

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

Well Fox news just said the execution is underway and there taking there time to make sure they do it right. [patriot]

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 9Venom9:
God will the hurry up and say he is dead so I can go to bed.

ya i got work at 8am..but u guys keep me on [Wink]

all these ne posts..i jus hope this thread gets locker later today and everythng can be done with. [patriot]

Posted by Juiced-03 (Member # 2245) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 9Venom9:
God will the hurry up and say he is dead so I can go to bed.

haha I know! I can't sleep. Where is everyone waiting for the official word? Google news?

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:

quote:
Originally posted by 9Venom9:
God will the hurry up and say he is dead so I can go to bed.
ya i got work at 8am..but u guys keep me on all these ne posts..i jus hope this thread gets locker later today and everythng can be done with.

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 9Venom9:
God will the hurry up and say he is dead so I can go to bed.

ROFL!

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

time of death was 12:36

Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on :

He's dead!

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

good nite..was fun talkin to all you..RIP..

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

CBS 13 said he is gone.

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

Fox news just said Stanley Tookie aka "cold blooded killer" is now dead!

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
time of death was 12:36

i was the first one to say it..lmao...yep 12:36 RIP RIP RIP

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

Cool, now I'm gonna get back to playing my xbox 360. [Razz]

Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :

OK all goodnight! [Big Grin]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

i wanna hear about what he says

Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :

Arnold: Mr. Stanley Williams, this is Governor Schwarzenegger.
Tookie: Hello Mr. Schwarenegger.
Arnold: I have great news for you.
Tookie: What is it?
Arnold: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geiko..
Tookie: ....

jus a lil joke a friend of mine made today.. [burnout]

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.
maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...
by working out with them? hmmm, I dunno.

u never knoe but i could be wrong... it was jus a guess.

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
Arnold: Mr. Stanley Williams, this is Governor Schwarzenegger.
Tookie: Hello Mr. Schwarenegger.
Arnold: I have great news for you.
Tookie: What is it?
Arnold: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geiko..
Tookie: ....

jus a lil joke a friend of mine made today..

ROFL, thats wrong... but something that mencia would say.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by uh0h50:
Arnold: Mr. Stanley Williams, this is Governor Schwarzenegger.
Tookie: Hello Mr. Schwarenegger.
Arnold: I have great news for you.
Tookie: What is it?
Arnold: I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geiko..
Tookie: ....

jus a lil joke a friend of mine made today..

lmao..thas funny but fucked up..RIP and good fight good nite or playin xbox [Big Grin]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.
maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...
by working out with them? hmmm, I dunno.
u never knoe but i could be wrong... it was jus a guess.

Just face it, you are wrong. [Razz]

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

converted dentist chair?wtf..

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.
maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...
by working out with them? hmmm, I dunno.
u never knoe but i could be wrong... it was jus a guess.
Just face it, you are wrong.

geez!!! ok ok ok . . . . . im wrong! r u happy now????

Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
shut up chris u and the runon sentence
lol fuck off lol btw ru sitting there reading this in basketball shorts? lmfao!!!!!

ahahhahhahahaa [worship]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
oh yeah.... supposedly there is a secret witness that says he/she can prove that tookie is innocent... wonder wat the witness has to say...
I am sure that was some ploy to get them to stop the execution.
thats probably the truth...
And isnt it a little odd that he just now came forward???

And they just said on the news that he still hung out with the crips while he was in jail! So much for anti-gang preaching.
maybe he was trying to be a good influence on them ... who knows... its possible...maybe...
by working out with them? hmmm, I dunno.
u never knoe but i could be wrong... it was jus a guess.
Just face it, you are wrong.
geez!!! ok ok ok . . . . . im wrong! r u happy now????

No.

Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :

quote:
Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
shut up chris u and the runon sentence
lol fuck off lol btw ru sitting there reading this in basketball shorts? lmfao!!!!!
ahahhahhahahaa

let me guess chirs called u to let u know bout this post huh.. [Big Grin]

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

QUOTE]No. [Razz]

[/qb][/QUOTE]wat the hell is it gnna take to make u happy??? i already admitted i was wrong...

[ December 13, 2005, 02:39 AM: Message edited by: LIL MZ MISCHEIF ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

You learning how to quote properly... [Wink]

[ December 13, 2005, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: 94gt ]

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

ha ha very funny.... so y'd u edit ur post??? u learning how to quote properly too??

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
ha ha very funny.... so y'd u edit ur post??? u learning how to quote properly too??

No, I tried to quote your mistake as it was posted... and it was partially corrected when I quoted it. [Frown]

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

uh huh... ok ... well ill be more than happy to argue bout it 2morrow... gotta go to bed now...bye.

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF:
uh huh... ok ... well ill be more than happy to argue bout it 2morrow... gotta go to bed now...bye.

Then, GIT! [Wink]

Posted by mr mach ef (Member # 4025) on :

im watchin fox news and they got live talk of the people who did the x, and now the warden... oo35milatary time tod according to the warden

Posted by mr mach ef (Member # 4025) on :

did or could they video / show on tv the execution??? not that i wanted to watch , jus wondering???

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mr mach ef:
did or could they video / show on tv the execution??? not that i wanted to watch , jus wondering???

no you can't watch it on TV.

Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
i jus cant wait till scott petersons gets it..1 month left..much i dnt lik it or all he NEED'S to get it.
they already set his date? good that fucker needs to die too
how is Scott Peterson being put to death only 2 years after murdering his life and it took 20 years to kill Tookie?

it's a little more of a brutal murder when you kill your wife and an UNBORN child......the unborn child is the key factor. ill drink a beer when that fool goes.

marek

Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :

Where are all these promised riots? [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sharkattack:
Where are all these promised riots?

I announced that anyone who riots over a convicted murdered being put to death shall be shot.

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
ill drink a beer when that fool goes.

marek [/QB]

Ill join you

Posted by LIL MZ MISCHEIF (Member # 5585) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by 84GT5.0:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
i jus cant wait till scott petersons gets it..1 month left..much i dnt lik it or all he NEED'S to get it.
they already set his date? good that fucker needs to die too
how is Scott Peterson being put to death only 2 years after murdering his life and it took 20 years to kill Tookie?
it's a little more of a brutal murder when you kill your wife and an UNBORN child......the unborn child is the key factor. ill drink a beer when that fool goes.

marek

from what i was reading on ktvu.com scott peterson is scheduled to go to death row in 2 weeks ... but no scheduled date for the execution.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

take a tookie and bake it like a cookie!

Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
take a tookie and bake it like a cookie!

LMAO!

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
take a tookie and bake it like a cookie!

hahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by sharkattack:
Where are all these promised riots?
I announced that anyone who riots over a convicted murdered being put to death shall be shot.

no, just give it time, most of the people in the gang probably didnt pay their cable bill,haha

Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by sharkattack:
Where are all these promised riots?
I announced that anyone who riots over a convicted murdered being put to death shall be shot.
no, just give it time, most of the people in the gang probably didnt pay their cable bill,haha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by sharkattack:
Where are all these promised riots?
I announced that anyone who riots over a convicted murdered being put to death shall be shot.
no, just give it time, most of the people in the gang probably didnt pay their cable bill,haha

shit i forgot to pay mine speak'n of the devil!LOL

Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on :

i watched some lady on the news crying over his execution saying it was murder. i want to puke on that bitches face.

Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
take a tookie and bake it like a cookie!

HAHAHA ROTFLMAO!

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by t top freak:
i watched some lady on the news crying over his execution saying it was murder. i want to puke on that bitches face.

I find this blind allegiance to Dookie that has been displayed by many members of our society EXTREMELY disturbing. Makes my faith for humanity drop.

He is a MURDERER... repeat offender at that.
He was on trial for killing four people. How many he got away with, now that, I am willing to bet is astounding.

This should have happened earlier.

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by t top freak:
i watched some lady on the news crying over his execution saying it was murder. i want to puke on that bitches face.

such an insightful post

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
this for u 94gt

Death Penalty:
The death penalty is the greatest denial of civil liberties. Innocent people are being sentenced to death. In the past 30 years, 122 inmates were found to be innocent and released from death row. The ACLU is working toward a moratorium on the death penalty.

http://www.aclu.org/capital/index.html

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6
The 1st link, I refuse to look at... the aclu are up to too many tricky things... The 2nd one the executive director is "an adjunct professor at the Catholic University Law School."

I'm talking about an -unbiased- document from the state, or a state agency, that gives those numbers... not a website that sounds like a personal/ biased opinion.

scroll down to the second page of the form,, under innocence/ exoneration

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE:
this for u 94gt

Death Penalty:
The death penalty is the greatest denial of civil liberties. Innocent people are being sentenced to death. In the past 30 years, 122 inmates were found to be innocent and released from death row. The ACLU is working toward a moratorium on the death penalty.

http://www.aclu.org/capital/index.html

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=412&scid=6
The 1st link, I refuse to look at... the aclu are up to too many tricky things... The 2nd one the executive director is "an adjunct professor at the Catholic University Law School."

I'm talking about an -unbiased- document from the state, or a state agency, that gives those numbers... not a website that sounds like a personal/ biased opinion.

scroll down to the second page of the form,, under innocence/ exoneration
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/FactSheet.pdf#search='death%20penalty%20facts%20and%20innocence'

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

heres another

http://sun.soci.niu.edu/~critcrim/wrong/wrong.html

Posted by spegull03 (Member # 2842) on :

he got Terminated.

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

http://www.soci.niu.edu/~critcrim/wrong/illmurder.html

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

oh man, this is a quick little reference sheet
http://www.quixote.org/ej/100th/talking_points.pdf

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

burea of justice statistics on everything
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pubalp2.htm#Capital%20Punishment

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

BEST SITE I FOUND,, LINKS ON EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE DEATH PENATLY,, PRO AND CON
http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/links/dplinks.htm#pc

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

r.I.P... . from what i heard they diddnt have no evidence that he did it :confused:thats why the news reporter asked him till this day? i dont believe in the death penalty, but damn he did made a big gang that will probably always be here now. still think he should of got life . but things happen for a reason so let them be. me myself cant stand gang [BS flag]

i cant stand it. i just want to know is there full proof that he did it?

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

never mind i seen what proof they had, im not really into the media bullshit but when i see it here its hard not to look.well what heppened happened,i wouldnt be waiting on someone to die, got better things to do [burnout]

Posted by iron281 (Member # 80) on :

For Christ's sake, 140+ posts for this piece of shit? What's with all the hand-wringing over this cowardly, cold-blooded murdering orc?

More than 20 years, and they could not show that he did not murder these 4 helpless innocents. Shot them at point blank range, inches away. They never stood a chance. And they did not even provoke this piece of shit.

Elderly people, the husband,76, and the wife, 63, and the daughter, 43. Albert Owens was told to lie down, and he was shot in the back, again, at point blank range with a 12 gauge shotgun by this piece of shit. For a couple hundred dollars. Even the thought of elevating this piece of shit to any status other than cold-blooded murdering orc is enough to make me vomit.

Good riddance, he should have been offed a long time ago. The world is a better place now, with one less inhuman piece of shit littering it.

I say NEXT.

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

quote:
Originally posted by iron281:
I say NEXT.

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by t top freak:
i watched some lady on the news crying over his execution saying it was murder. i want to puke on that bitches face.

haha thats awesome.

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