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Originally posted by 89point.:
ive been reading it to and i say let him live. i guess he didnt get a fair trial(not to sure on this everyone always says this). he denies still to this day that he didnt murder them. and he has been changing a lot of peoples lives. if they were to keep him alive he could still help kids get out of gangs and things like that i think he will help a lot more people alive then dead. this is my opinion may not be the same as others.

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I think they should let him live . . hell he was nominated for a nobel peace prize. I mean come on it takes some one really special to be nominated you know . . . but with california system the good die and the bad are set free . . . thats just how I see it sometimes . ..
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
The problem is you have to cook these scum bags earlier.

You delay executing the death penalty 10, 15, 20 years and, ya, the inmate may no longer be the same person as he or she was when the crime was committed. That doesn't hide the fact that he committed horrible crimes years ealier by killing people and ruining the lives of their families.

Our system needs change. There should be absolutely no reason why someone is on death row more than 1, 2, 3, maybe 4 years MAX! We don't need to be supplying a convicted felon with 20+ years of free room and board + 3 meals a day. Give them their appeal opportunity, and then give them HIGH Voltage pronto!

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Posted by p1mp1n (Member # 1961) on :
 
We were actually talking about this subject in my criminal justice class today, Its a very interesting subject. I personally think that they should let him live without a doubt. He has alot to offer youth's with his past knowlege. He's better dead than alive...
I was listening to speakers on 106.1 Kmel's radio station yesterday and people supporting Stanley brought up some very interesting issues in trying to prove the possibility that he was unlawfully accused of the murders.
Either way if people are interested in the subject you should check out the movie Redemption with Jamie Foxx as he play's the role of Stanley Tookie Williams.
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
This is a subject that both sides will have valid points no matter how you look at it.

My opinion is to follow the current leagal system no matter how messed up it may seem. If the Terminator thinks he should live then that's on his shoulders. If he gives the guy the thumbs down and PG&E gets a nice kick back from the guy gettin fried then so be it. This is how things work even if they don't seem right, fair or just. Unless you are part of some sort of a group fighting for one side or the other all opinons on it are worth .02 maybe even less.

Now I'm not in the guys possition nor in the families that lost loved ones so my opinion could change on the whole thing in a heartbeat.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by 89point.:
ive been reading it to and i say let him live. i guess he didnt get a fair trial(not to sure on this everyone always says this). he denies still to this day that he didnt murder them. and he has been changing a lot of peoples lives. if they were to keep him alive he could still help kids get out of gangs and things like that i think he will help a lot more people alive then dead. this is my opinion may not be the same as others.

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One thing is for sure, Arnold is DREADING having to deal with this one! And for good reason. This is a HIGHLY controverial case.

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
I believe in putting an express line in the Death Row procedure. Or dare I say it, mimic Texas in their scheme of executions.

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:
One thing is for sure, Arnold is DREADING having to deal with this one! And for good reason. This is a HIGHLY controverial case.

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I think hes dreading it more because if he lets him die, there will be soo much riotiing and killings after hes dead. I think thats completely stupid if they riot, they found the guy guilty of the murders, rioting isn't going to change that.

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If Arnold doesn't touch this one, and just lets the court's decision stand (like it should), people WILL blame him for "letting" Tookie die. I think there is a huge part of our society that expects Arnold to intervene which is absolutely rediculous. And this is where some of the rioting may stem from imho. People are aching to point the finger.

Anytime you point the finger at someone, you have to realize there are three fingers pointing back at you!
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
If they still used the electric chair I would recommend they set it to well done. He is a convicted cold blooded killer and his guilt has been upheld after many reviews of his case. If his current good deeds would bring back the people he killed then I would say let him live his life out in prison. As far as I know they are still very dead. If Arnold let's the system do it's job then just load up as many magazines as you have and see what comes along.
 

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Posted by Fast_Bitch (Member # 2316) on :
 
Basically in all its a lose lose situation . . and everyone has some excellent points on the matter but I think Arnold wont make a anything happen as long as in the public eye they see him attempting to do something I dont think it will end up that bad . . . but in tookies case it probally will be the end of him . . hey its history right ??
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Anyone know what the families want? Thats all that should matter. Who cares if he wrote childrens books, if the families want him dead do it

[ December 01, 2005, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]
 

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Posted by hard60 (Member # 6247) on :
 
i completly agree with sharkattack. this guy doesnt deserve to live, how would you feel if it was your mom, brother, sister..that got killed, raped, assaulted. I think if he really wants out of this, he should get the families to write apeal, but i highly doupt that will happen.
 

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Posted by Spitfiremk24 (Member # 5698) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
Anyone know what the families want? Thats all that should matter. Who cares if he wrote childrens books, if the families want him dead do it

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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Exactly he originated the Infamous Crips and till this day, 3 of my friends got shot over colors and 2 of them are dead(rip) - If he can really make a difference, let him stopp all these gang activites in Norcal - Ie he is successful then let him live but how the hell can we sure that onces he gets out he wont go back to his own gang banging life again? I mean come on, he is the leader of the Crips now once he gets out someone from the opposide gang may try to execute him themself lol

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93redcobra:

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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Fukk Yes. WORD for WORD
 

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Posted by 86 coupe (Member # 6244) on :
 
For the people who think he shoudn't die.

Just imagine if he killed your mother, father, sister, or brother. I know you would want him dead no matter what. Just see it in a different perspective.

So no matter what he did to sound rehabilitated, he did what he did. He has to follow his consequences.
 

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Posted by 5.0Caliber (Member # 5865) on :
 
There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02
 

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Posted by 5.0Caliber (Member # 5865) on :
 
And about the whole gang banging thing, thats a L.A. thing, crips, bloods, damus etc. Out here in the bay its all just turf wars becuase of drugs and random ass shootings over stupid ass shit like where you live(Block wise), car jackings, theft, and because someone got they're ass beat. The whole time I have lived in the bay(20 years) I have never seen or heard of anyone get shot because of colors...well maybe in the early 90's. Just last night there was a double shooting in el cerrito a few blocks away from where community leaders met up to discuss violence and how to stop it.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
And about the whole gang banging thing, thats a L.A. thing, crips, bloods, damus etc. Out here in the bay its all just turf wars becuase of drugs and random ass shootings over stupid ass shit like where you live(Block wise), car jackings, theft, and because someone got they're ass beat. The whole time I have lived in the bay(20 years) I have never seen or heard of anyone get shot because of colors...well maybe in the early 90's. Just last night there was a double shooting in el cerrito a few blocks away from where community leaders met up to discuss violence and how to stop it.

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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02

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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02

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Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
Smoke his ass. Should have been done 20 years ago.Yeah I bet he is sorry now

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He cannot possibly make up for all the wrong he has done. There is no redemption for him except in heaven, if he even gets to go there.

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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Yet he is a member of several in jail
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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Yet he is a member of several in jail

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Hey, I'm just passing on the info. From what I saw on tv, many gangs say that he is still a part of them.

I have the feeling that Arnold wont check his email that night when his sentance is to be carried out.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
I just read that he is still involved with Gangs even in prison to this day. He doesn't deserve clemency

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His angle is that he is educating kids to not join the gangs.

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Yet he is a member of several in jail

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Hey, I'm just passing on the info. From what I saw on tv, many gangs say that he is still a part of them.

I have the feeling that Arnold wont check his email that night when his sentance is to be carried out.

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
As far as I know they are still very dead.

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

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Originally posted by sharkattack:
I love how all these "Save Tookie" people claim this convicted murderer is a role model for children. How he keeps them out of gangs. Bullshit! This guy helped create one of the largest, most violent gangs in the country that has imitators around the world. A gang that is responsible for countless murders, rapes, robberies, druggies, thefts, etc.... How many kids died because of something Tookie started? This son of a bitch is no role model to anyone.

Every motherfucker on death row is innocent. So they all say. If I was on death row, I'd write some childrens books too. I'd get a PHd, find Jesus, weave baskets, and do whatever I could to make myself look rehabilitated just to get off of death row as well.

With that said, do I think capitol punishment works? Not really, but if it is going to satisfy victims families then I am all for it.

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he will NEVER be out they will just give him LIFE with out ANY possibility of parol,if the death penalty doesnt go through
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 
I say fry that fukker and call him COOKie
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:
I say fry that fukker and call him COOKie

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Originally posted by HaulinAssMaro:
I say fry that fukker and call him COOKie

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Originally posted by t top freak:
he is convicted of 3 murders and is responsible for countless gang related deaths. writing kids books does not make up for the lives he has ruined, time for him to be a man and accept the punishment for his actions in the past.

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Originally posted by t top freak:
he is convicted of 3 murders and is responsible for countless gang related deaths. writing kids books does not make up for the lives he has ruined, time for him to be a man and accept the punishment for his actions in the past.

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Actually 4. He killed 3 family members (Mother, father, Daughter) and a 7/11 store cerk. All 4 murders combined netted him 220 dollars that was split 3 ways. He killed just to kill.

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by Red Vette:

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Originally posted by t top freak:
he is convicted of 3 murders and is responsible for countless gang related deaths. writing kids books does not make up for the lives he has ruined, time for him to be a man and accept the punishment for his actions in the past.

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Actually 4. He killed 3 family members (Mother, father, Daughter) and a 7/11 store cerk. All 4 murders combined netted him 220 dollars that was split 3 ways. He killed just to kill.

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Originally posted by Red Vette:

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Originally posted by t top freak:
he is convicted of 3 murders and is responsible for countless gang related deaths. writing kids books does not make up for the lives he has ruined, time for him to be a man and accept the punishment for his actions in the past.

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Actually 4. He killed 3 family members (Mother, father, Daughter) and a 7/11 store cerk. All 4 murders combined netted him 220 dollars that was split 3 ways. He killed just to kill.

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oh, what a role model
 

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Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
Ah yes, the wonderful Tookie Williams. For anyone having doubts about frying him.

"Tookie Williams founded the Crips in 1971, eight years before he and three other men went on a murder-and-robbery spree that netted approximately $250 and left four people dead. The murders were notably gratuitous. Albert Owens – the clerk in Whittier, California – lay prostrate on the floor of a back room as Williams shot him twice in the back. Williams told one of the three men who went along on the job he killed Owens because he didn’t want any witnesses to identify him and “because he was white and he was killing all white people.” He then robbed the Brookhaven Motel, in the process murdering an elderly Chinese couple and their daughter (whom he referred to as “Buddhaheads”). Tookie killed all his victims with a 12-gauge shotgun, which he held inches from their quivering bodies before pulling the trigger to inflict maximum damage."
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 
fukk that dude.................it shouldnt have dragged along this far anyhow

Fry COOKie Williams
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
TTTTTTTTTT I wanna hear hear the Verdict on this one ::: Arnold hasnt made a decision yet ::
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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TTTTTTTTTT I wanna hear hear the Verdict on this one ::: Arnold hasnt made a decision yet ::

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


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Posted by 89point. (Member # 6078) on :
 
can you imagine that big fucker trying to crip walk it makes me laugh whenever i think about it.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by 89point.:
can you imagine that big fucker trying to crip walk it makes me laugh whenever i think about it.

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

 

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Posted by 51505.0 (Member # 1904) on :
 
I dont know who talked about 106.1 but they are idiots if you ever listened to them. Second he has lived 20 years longer than his victims. They should have killed that mother f****er a long time ago. I dont want to pay $70,000 a year in taxes to keep this thing alive.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
Today is probably the day.
 

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Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
Tomorrow morning at 12:01 am he is set to Die. There will be anger and I bet the crips will raige war, but fuck it I HOPE ARNOLD STAYS STRONG AND LETS THEM FRY HIS ASS.........

LETS HAVE A BARBEQUE
 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 
He should have died long ago.

I dont quite understand how some people can forget about the people he murdered just because he wrote a couple children books. You know what... I dont even care if he DIDNT kill those people in the first place! Im sorry.. make a fuckin example of him. Hes a founder of a gang that has taken the lives of THOUSANDS of people... anyone with that on their resume should fuckin fry anyways.
 

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Posted by 302n/a (Member # 1465) on :
 

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Originally posted by 5.0Caliber:
There is so much that we dont know about this subject and everyone claims to be a expert. The only people who really know what happened are tookie and the victims, we sure as hell cant get anything outa the victims and no one is going to believe tookie. If you look at it from a neutral point of view, you can prob see that there could have been so much that could have gone wrong with the case. He is a highly controversial(??) and infamous man, you dont think the D.A. and investagators would do anything and everything to put him away for good, just look at the "oakland riders" for example they planted so much evidence that put away many people good or bad and there are many many more examples of corrupt or shady officials, and you know evidence isnt always 100% right. I could care less about what the families say about this, just because they want him dead doesnt mean that we should throw him into the fryer, they are angry and he is a easy target to focus the anger at. I cant say that he did or didnt commit those crimes, but all I know is that his time will soon be up. My .02

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well said everyone acts like they know the true facts of the story.Police do some shady shit especially in L.A to try to lock you up or convict you.Fact is we will never know if he's guilty or not unless he outright says he killed them.Im not saying he's innocent but he definetely is a main target because he's the founder of the crips that alone gives them reason to lock him up.
 

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Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on :
 
tookie is dead tonight!
 

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Posted by 84GT5.0 (Member # 5227) on :
 

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Originally posted by slidewayz94:
tookie is dead tonight!

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Let his fuckin ass fry!!!!!!
 

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Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :
 
Its official now, the gov. denied clemency.

Sacramento, 12:41 p.m. -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected Stanley "Tookie" Williams' plea for clemency Monday, setting the stage for a midnight execution of the four-time murderer who became an anti-gang crusader from Death Row.


After mulling over the decision for weeks and meeting with prosecutors and Williams' lawyers last Thursday, Schwarzenegger said in a written statement that "clemency cases are always difficult and this one is no exception.


"After studying the evidence, searching the history, listening to the arguments and wrestling with the profound consequences, I could find no justification for granting clemency. The facts do not justify overturning the jury's verdict or the decisions of the courts in this case."


Barring any last minute, longshot legal appeal, Williams will be given a lethal injection at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals also denied a petition for a stay of execution.


Convicted in 1981 for four shotgun murders during two robberies, Williams was the co-founder of the Crips street gang. In the last decade, however, Williams has published eight children's books warning against gangs and violence and has attempted to broker truces between gangs from his San Quentin State Prison cell.


Williams' clemency bid has garnered worldwide attention, and the governor's office has reported a major uptick and phone calls and letters on the issue in recent weeks.
 

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Posted by uh0h50 (Member # 3125) on :
 
finally, i agree with something the terminator has done while in office..
 

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Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
He dies at 12:01am tomorrow, riots in Los Angeles by noon that day. There's gonna be some shit going down. I feel bad for the law enforcement in that area. My aunt is a forensic scientist for the LAPD, she collects drugs and shell casings and tests them (kinda like CSI). She told me the Crips and Bloods have some serious firepower. Like 100+ 9mm casings from the same weapon or 200+ 7.62mm casings (probably AK 47). She told me once they got a crate of military spec AR 15's w/ M203 grenade launchers.
 

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Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 

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Originally posted by klonoa:
Its official now, the gov. denied clemency.

Sacramento, 12:41 p.m. -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected Stanley "Tookie" Williams' plea for clemency Monday, setting the stage for a midnight execution of the four-time murderer who became an anti-gang crusader from Death Row.

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[ December 12, 2005, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: NavidR ]
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by Joooestang66:
He dies at 12:01am tomorrow, riots in Los Angeles by noon that day. There's gonna be some shit going down. I feel bad for the law enforcement in that area. My aunt is a forensic scientist for the LAPD, she collects drugs and shell casings and tests them (kinda like CSI). She told me the Crips and Bloods have some serious firepower. Like 100+ 9mm casings from the same weapon or 200+ 7.62mm casings (probably AK 47). She told me once they got a crate of military spec AR 15's w/ M203 grenade launchers.

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Ak47s and Ar15s are everywhere - But Grenade Launchers
 

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Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on :
 
what I don't understand is if Tookie was so anti-gang violence,why can't he make a statement against such violence in retaliation of his death?
 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 

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Originally posted by slidewayz94:
what I don't understand is if Tookie was so anti-gang violence,why can't he make a statement against such violence in retaliation of his death?

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
TERMINATED.
 

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Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
-- California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has denied clemency for killer Stanley Tookie Williams.


 

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Posted by 86 coupe (Member # 6244) on :
 
LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!

I FEEL BAD FOR THE POLICE DOWN IN L.A.
 

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Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on :
 
good

this guy is a cancer to society
 

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Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
at 12:35 Am it all came to an end. the sentence was fallowed through. All though he was a criminal in my mind may he RIP someday.
 

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