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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 
Did anyone elese see the show Test Drive on SpeedTV the other night. They were test driving 2 2006 Z06s at Road Atlanta. They do a 0-60 in 3.7 and the 1/4 in 11.7et, with a top speed of 198, all with a factory waranty. Those Vette were looking very sweet and straight attacking that track with ease. Got me thinking about going over to the Dark Side



[ November 23, 2005, 02:37 AM: Message edited by: WILDTHANG ]
 

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Posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner (Member # 6100) on :
 
shoot ill go over to the dark side if i could do a straight trade
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 
One of the baddest fuckin cars out there and THE baddest domestic car there is, you cant beat it price wise either... i hear Dodge crying now. Cost less than the viper and ford GT and can spank both of them!
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
One of the baddest fuckin cars out there and THE baddest domestic car there is, you cant beat it price wise either... i hear Dodge crying now. Cost less than the viper and ford GT and can spank both of them!

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:
Damn straight! Is it safe to say, "The 06 Z06 is Left Nut Sacrifice Worthy?"

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No need to go that far for $66k. Can you say Equity Line I'm calling my mortgage broker tomorrow.
 

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Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
One of the baddest fuckin cars out there and THE baddest domestic car there is, you cant beat it price wise either... i hear Dodge crying now. Cost less than the viper and ford GT and can spank both of them!

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Damn straight! Is it safe to say, "The 06 Z06 is Left Nut Sacrifice Worthy?"

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
Comparing the GT to a ZO6 is doesn't make sense on the track.

RWD/Rear-engine won't compare to RWD/Front-engine on the track theory-wise. I want to see a road course comparison test. And not a stupid slalom speed test.

$65,000 vs. 04 Cobra + equivalent in mods) = no competition

All this car looks like to me is another mid-life crisis mobile that will be babied.

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
Comparing the GT to a ZO6 is doesn't make sense on the track.

RWD/Rear-engine won't compare to RWD/Front-engine on the track theory-wise. I want to see a road course comparison test. And not a stupid slalom speed test.

$65,000 vs. 04 Cobra + equivalent in mods) = no competition

All this car looks like to me is another mid-life crisis mobile that will be babied.

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ya i mean it only has a 427 LS7 motor...


That car is absolutly bad ass and cosidering the car is N/A and making that power compared to a cobra that needs a blower and still doesnt make that much power stock.. yaaaa Id have to say that z06 is bad ass.

[ November 23, 2005, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: boostin1.8 ]
 

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Posted by season'd 88 (Member # 169) on :
 


[ January 08, 2006, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: season'd 88 ]
 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
Comparing the GT to a ZO6 is doesn't make sense on the track.

RWD/Rear-engine won't compare to RWD/Front-engine on the track theory-wise. I want to see a road course comparison test. And not a stupid slalom speed test.

$65,000 vs. 04 Cobra + equivalent in mods) = no competition

All this car looks like to me is another mid-life crisis mobile that will be babied.

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Hows this for a comparison...

http://www.baileymotorsports.com/nurburgring.html
 

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Posted by WILDTHANG (Member # 4441) on :
 
If you are a true car guy, you can respect the Z06.
No Blue Hair in this bad boy.

This is some repectful company. Also considering it is the cheapests out of the bunch. There are some 200-300k cars on that list. I think I will dye my hair blue for a factory 11sec car with a waranty. Avengeance nice post

Porsche Carrera GT 7:32
Mercedes-McLaren SLR 7:40
Corvette Z06 (c6) 7:42
Porsche 996 GT2 7:42
GT2 7:46
Jaguar XJ220 7:46
Lamborghini Murciélago 7:50
Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
GT3 - New 7:54
Corvette Z06 (c5) 2004 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 7:56
Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
GT3 - Old 8:03
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8:05
Porsche S (997) 8:06
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8:07
Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Porsche Carrera GT 7:32
Mercedes-McLaren SLR 7:40
Corvette Z06 (c6) 7:42
Porsche 996 GT2 7:42
GT2 7:46
Jaguar XJ220 7:46
Lamborghini Murciélago 7:50
Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
GT3 - New 7:54
Corvette Z06 (c5) 2004 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 7:56
Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
GT3 - Old 8:03
Luke's 93 coupe with Bullitt suspension and cobra brakes 8:04
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8:05
Porsche S (997) 8:06
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8:07
Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
 

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Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
Cost less than the viper and ford GT and can spank both of them!

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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THANK YOU!!!

 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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The "I coulda', woulda', shoulda' with $XXXX in mods" is such a weak ass argument. Sure there is validity in it but like said, once modded said car isnt comparable anymore.

Does anyone have any knowledge of a GT Nurburgring times? I havent found any and Im curious now... Im sure its on par or better.

Either way its nice to see BOTH American companies bringing out some big guns that put major ASS WHOOPINS' on some of the big dawg imports.
 

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Posted by BlackNGold (Member # 655) on :
 
Just a side not on the ZO6 at the Nurburgring, attendents there said that the ZO6 was really fast, they also said that the noise comming from that thing could be no other than a supercharger...I read this comment in the last Road & Track Mag I have...

I wonder if those times were with an N/A ZO6?.....Either way the ZO6 is bad ass and I'd take one anyday....

EDIT= R&T refered to the boosted ZO6 as King Kong, it's a blue one just like the afore mentioned pics...

[ November 23, 2005, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: BlackNGold ]
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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Compare the amount of people that have modified Cobras vs. modified Corvettes ON THE STREET and you'll see my point.

I drive pass 3 C4 model Automatic Corvettes on my block everyday that are washed weekly and probably never abused. This is why I see them as a mid-life trophy car that most over the hump husbands own just to show off. There may be some exceptions but I just don't see enough around the bay to make this statement so. This may be different for C5's on the road course though.

If you're taking about the "modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are". (grammar)

Why do you modify your coupe then? To perform better right? Weren't you looking for a coupe because of its rigidity and lighter weight compared to a GT or Convertible Fox body?

If you talking about the potential of a car and not modding it buy a Ferrari/Porsche and be done with it. I wouldn't buy a $65,000 Chevy just to get mopped on by a 10-second Cobras with Ported KBs that spent less than $45k. Or Turbo Fox bodies that spent prolly $20k.

Luke87GT was FIVE seconds slower than the C6 and EIGHT seconds slower than the ZO6 for probably spending $40,000 less. If that doesn't talk about "potential" for you, than I don't know what does.

Last time I logged on, I noticed this was caFORDS.com. Where's the Ford GT(40) on that list anyway? I don't understand magazine racers sometimes.

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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Compare the amount of people that have modified Cobras vs. modified Corvettes ON THE STREET and you'll see my point.

I drive pass 3 C4 model Automatic Corvettes on my block everyday that are washed weekly and probably never abused. This is why I see them as a mid-life trophy car that most over the hump husbands own just to show off. There may be some exceptions but I just don't see enough around the bay to make this statement so. This may be different for C5's on the road course though.

If you're taking about the "modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are". (grammar)

Why do you modify your coupe then? To perform better right? Weren't you looking for a coupe because of its rigidity and lighter weight compared to a GT or Convertible Fox body?

If you talking about the potential of a car and not modding it buy a Ferrari/Porsche and be done with it. I wouldn't buy a $65,000 Chevy just to get mopped on by a 10-second Cobras with Ported KBs that spent less than $45k. Or Turbo Fox bodies that spent prolly $20k.

Luke87GT was FIVE seconds slower than the C6 and EIGHT seconds slower than the ZO6 for probably spending $40,000 less. If that doesn't talk about "potential" for you, than I don't know what does.

Last time I logged on, I noticed this was caFORDS.com. Where's the Ford GT(40) on that list anyway? I don't understand magazine racers sometimes.

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Although I agree that the fox has tremendous potential with the right parts, I must admit, I was totally, fully, and utterly kidding when I threw my name into that elite list, lol (:

Didn't mean to spoil your arguement.

My car's handling has improved a LOT since I redid the suspension with all new parts 600/250 springs, Tokico's, new bushings, etc.

I played with a z06 a few weeks ago on the backroads of Highway 4 between Pinole and Martinez (you locals know what I am talking about), and he made me look silly. The vette was so smooooooth and sooo flat in the turns. Truly world class!

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LMAO. Haha. I was thinking about that considering you beat out some Ferraris. I feel stupid.
 

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Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
I don't get the people that don't, or should I say refuse, to admit that the c6 z06 is probably one of the most complete and well developed car to roll out of factory.
That whole mentality of "yeah.. Give me a cobra and 30k in mods and it will destroy a z06" makes me laugh..
I'd say.. Give me Honda civic and 50k in mods and it'll destroy that cobra too.. Once you start modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are.

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Compare the amount of people that have modified Cobras vs. modified Corvettes ON THE STREET and you'll see my point.

I drive pass 3 C4 model Automatic Corvettes on my block everyday that are washed weekly and probably never abused. This is why I see them as a mid-life trophy car that most over the hump husbands own just to show off. There may be some exceptions but I just don't see enough around the bay to make this statement so. This may be different for C5's on the road course though.

If you're taking about the "modifying a car is no longer about the potential of the car but about how deep your pockets are". (grammar)

Why do you modify your coupe then? To perform better right? Weren't you looking for a coupe because of its rigidity and lighter weight compared to a GT or Convertible Fox body?

If you talking about the potential of a car and not modding it buy a Ferrari/Porsche and be done with it. I wouldn't buy a $65,000 Chevy just to get mopped on by a 10-second Cobras with Ported KBs that spent less than $45k. Or Turbo Fox bodies that spent prolly $20k.

Luke87GT was FIVE seconds slower than the C6 and EIGHT seconds slower than the ZO6 for probably spending $40,000 less. If that doesn't talk about "potential" for you, than I don't know what does.

Last time I logged on, I noticed this was caFORDS.com. Where's the Ford GT(40) on that list anyway? I don't understand magazine racers sometimes.

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
I don't understand magazine racers sometimes.

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If you talking about the potential of a car and not modding it buy a Ferrari/Porsche and be done with it.

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Did you not read the list? Name a Ferrari thats above the ZO6s posted time, on a real course, not some stupid slalom speed test. Of course, then again, I dont see the ENZO on that list, but thats a $1M car.

You mention the Porsche... you do know what a Porsche Carrera GT costs, right? $450K I believe.

Look man.. youre right that you can take a Cobra and mod it to hang or beat the new ZO6. IMO you sound like a typical GM hater (no offense)... which IMO isnt a true car enthusiest. I, along with everyone here giving props to the new ZO6, are true car enthusiests. I dont believe in brand loyalty.... I like anything that performs. Hell... if it was financially possible Id consider selling my SS for a 03/04 Cobra. (dont tell my GM buddies I said that)

As far as the bystanders claiming the ZO6 had a S/C on it... I dont think its true. The C5 ZO6 isnt that far from the C6 ZO6 on that list, but you have to consider the C6 ZO6 is STRIDES ahead of the C5 ZO6.
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
wow, i never knew people could be so closed minded. yes, you can make a car faster in a straight line, but it will never handle or ride as nice as the c6 z06
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
I don't understand magazine racers sometimes.

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How is having a driver run the famous Nurburgring, then posting factual #s, considered "mag racing"?

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
If you talking about the potential of a car and not modding it buy a Ferrari/Porsche and be done with it.

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Did you not read the list? Name a Ferrari thats above the ZO6s posted time, on a real course, not some stupid slalom speed test. Of course, then again, I dont see the ENZO on that list, but thats a $1M car.

You mention the Porsche... you do know what a Porsche Carrera GT costs, right? $450K I believe.

Look man.. youre right that you can take a Cobra and mod it to hang or beat the new ZO6. IMO you sound like a typical GM hater (no offense)... which IMO isnt a true car enthusiest. I, along with everyone here giving props to the new ZO6, are true car enthusiests. I dont believe in brand loyalty.... I like anything that performs. Hell... if it was financially possible Id consider selling my SS for a 03/04 Cobra. (dont tell my GM buddies I said that)

As far as the bystanders claiming the ZO6 had a S/C on it... I dont think its true. The C5 ZO6 isnt that far from the C6 ZO6 on that list, but you have to consider the C6 ZO6 is STRIDES ahead of the C5 ZO6.

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I don't understand why everyone holds this car in such high regard for such a steep price. Not many people will own this car, and even a smaller percentage will race it against people in the REAL WORLD. It's just what I see on the streets compared to times on a road course that is over 2,000 miles away from my garage.

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Performance commands price.... and at $65K (before markups) the new ZO6 is properly priced IMO. In fact I believe it could have had a higher price tag and still be considered rightly priced. It outperforms many cars that are in some cases double and tripple its price tag, you cant argue with that.

Nurburgring is one of the more highly regarded test grounds, you know that.... of course we wont be racing on it but if a ZO6 whoops a Lambo at the Nurburgring... its safe to say itll do the same elsewhere.

Anyway.. enough from me. You have your vices about this car and youre entitled to your opinion.

Even if its wrong. (totally kidding)
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
Yeah it's all good. I like healthy arguments like this.
 

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Posted by yohuallin (Member # 4452) on :
 
dude.. you are missing the whole point. like people said. 60k for that particular car is a bargain.
If i had the money i would not only buy one but 3.. one exclusively for dragging.. one for road racing and one to pimp out.
yeah.. i've modified my coupe to make it perform better.. but no matter what i do, even if it turns into a 10 sec daily driver, it will always be a ford(not there is anything wrong with that.)

your argument is based on money. "bla bla bla..you'll have a faster car and spend less money.." if you have the money why not buy what you want?
also, just because you see cars that are not being abused all the time does not take anything away from their desing or their potential.
if someone buys a Z06 and decides to baby the mofo.. then so what? what's your problem? it's their car let them do what they want.
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
i love the new z06, and i would definitely get one if i could...i probably might even put it over the new GT500 coming out...

very sexy car!

marek
 

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