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Posted by Procharged2Kv6 (Member # 1563) on
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i was wondering.. those w/ Off Road X or H pipes..
1) do you guys regret going Off Road?
2) do you guys worry about SMOG?
3) is it too loud ?? just right? to quiet??
4) any regrets?
5) do you worry about cops?
6) what's the worst that can happen if you get pulled over w/o cats??
im thinking of getting an off road pipe for my 03 Cobra, but i just want to hear your opinions.. i really appreciate it!
Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on
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1)yes
2)hate swapping them out for smog
3)too loud although it sounds awesome
4)none
5)not worried about the cops
6)ticket, impound, fines, and have to go to the smog ref.
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on
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Don't fuck around with cats. If you get a mid pipe get the cats. Either way your not legal and the gains you get without cats are minimal. If you want muscle car loud get an H with cats. If you want Exotic loud go with the X with cats. I have had both an X and H on my 03 with Stingers and I like the H a whole lot better. Currently have an MRT H.
My 2 cents? Get an H with cats. Will at least pass a sniffer
Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on
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1)nope
2)hate swapping them out for smog
3)It sounds just right
4)none
5)not worried about the cops
6)ticket, impound, fines, and have to go to the smog ref.
[ November 17, 2005, 10:08 AM: Message edited by: boostin1.8 ]
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on
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1) No
2) No
3) too loud
4) not really
5) a little (I just push the clutch in when I see one)
6) Big fines
Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on
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1)hell no
2)just switch back to the stock H-pipe for smog
3)Not to loud,just right
4)None at all
5)Not many check under your car
6)Switch back to stock go to the ref,pay the ticket
I would say go for it.
[ November 17, 2005, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: PWR HNGRY 302 ]
Posted by IRISH (Member # 1629) on
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1)yes
2)hate swapping them out for smog
3)Perfection!
4)none
5)ummm ya! hehehehehe!
6)ticket, impound, fines (1k per cat), and have to go to the smog ref.
H pipes are the way to go!!
Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on
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1) nope
2) just swap back to my stock h when it comes time
3) it is really loud especially when cold. sometimes too loud but you get used to it
4) nope
5) only when i get on it and or they are right behind me
6) immediate smog ref, impound, and i heard $5-10,000 fine if the cop is really a dickhead
Posted by sic5pointSLOW (Member # 5889) on
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fuck smog... and the police. sounds perfect
Posted by mach1killa (Member # 5069) on
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WHAT BOTH 92STANGLX AND PWRHNGRY302 SAID. IVE GOTTEN TWO SMOG TICKETS IN THE PAST AND THATS BECAUSE I WAS WHERE I SHOULDNT BE. ONE TICKET FOR NO CATS COST 130.00 TICKET FOR HEADERS COST 10.00. KEEP IN MIND THESE WERE BOTH FOX BODY CARS. THE COPS NEVER REALY CARE ABOUT NEW CARS THAT MUCH AT LEAST I HAVENT ENCOUNTERED ANY PROBLEMS SINCE IVE OWNED MY COBRA. THE POWER YOU GAIN MAY BE MINIMAL AT 1RST BUT THE MORE POWER YOU ADD THE MORE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND IT SOUNDS GREAT. WHO CARES ABOUT SMOG YOU DONT HAVE TO SMOG YOUR CAR FOR LIKE 5 YEARS.
Posted by mach1killa (Member # 5069) on
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FINES ARE PRETTY MUCH UP TO THE JUDGE AND IVE NEVER KNOWN ANYONE TO PAY A LARGE FINE.
Posted by Procharged2Kv6 (Member # 1563) on
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thanks EVERYONE for your replies.. they're much much appreciated... i guess i'll go w/ sharkattack's advice and go w/ the MRT catted H... thanks again for the replies...
sharkattack, where did u purchase your MRT catted H?? how much?
Posted by mach1killa (Member # 5069) on
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CATS SUCK
[ November 17, 2005, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: mach1killa ]
Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Procharged2Kv6:
i was wondering.. those w/ Off Road X or H pipes..
1) do you guys regret going Off Road?
2) do you guys worry about SMOG?
3) is it too loud ?? just right? to quiet??
4) any regrets?
5) do you worry about cops?
6) what's the worst that can happen if you get pulled over w/o cats??
im thinking of getting an off road pipe for my 03 Cobra, but i just want to hear your opinions.. i really appreciate it!
http://www.mrt-direct.com/
Check around you may find a cheaper price.
Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on
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quote:
Originally posted by mach1killa:
CATS SUCK
+1 cats=
Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on
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I agree, I dont see why you should spend the extra money on a catted pipe when they are technically still "Illegal". All cars that are smogged must have the original amount of cat's on it for it to be technically legal. (not that this always aply but that is what is in writing)
Posted by 89_Fakesnake (Member # 1253) on
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1) do you guys regret going Off Road? Yes - my neighbors do too!!! First time I heard it I knew my car was WAY too loud for everyday use.
2) do you guys worry about SMOG? Yes - my reg. is 4 months past due. Nice.
3) is it too loud ?? just right? to quiet?? Too loud - and I NEVER thought I'd feel like that. I'm growing out of it...
4) any regrets? Yup - I can be stealth rolling into the driveway at 3am anymore. I get yelled at for driving 25 mph down the street because people think I'm doing 100 mph. I've actually stopped in front of peoples house to explain that just because you can HEAR my car - does not mean I'm speeding. Fuktards.
5) do you worry about cops? All the time - I don't even drive the GT if I'm going to be drinking.
6) what's the worst that can happen if you get pulled over w/o cats?? I heard that the cops make you do like 100 1-handed push ups then you have to sing the Pledge of Allegiance backwards...that's just what I've heard. Oh yeah - they can give you a fix it ticket if they're in a good mood too.
Hope this helps you make a decision...(don't do it).
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on
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Why put new mid pipe w/ cats on if your stock pipe already has cats. The purpose of cats is to reduce emmisions and pass smog. Might as well try to sweeze evey bit of power out your car w/ an O/R pipe and just switch back when you need to. Its not too loud for me. It sounds like a mustang should
Posted by Juiced-03 (Member # 2245) on
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Just go offroad and have someone weld on some cat shells if you are that worried about it.
Posted by blind (Member # 3052) on
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I love my offroad H.
just use quieter mufflers than you would with the stock setup and it is fine.
with my stock H on I can barely hear my car at idle with my dynomax superturbo catback, but with the offroad H on it sounds perfect
Posted by getjobdone (Member # 4666) on
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Originally posted by Juiced-03:
Just go offroad and have someone weld on some cat shells if you are that worried about it.
Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on
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i have been pull over about three times already cause of loud exhaust but never got a ticket, and they never check under the car, maybe cause my car is too low .
GO OFF ROAD X PIPE AND JUST KEEP THE STOCK H PIPE.
Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on
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i have all my smog equipment
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on
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CatS do suck... I could never understand how people say it's too load without cats. I use to have o/r H with 1 chamber and it sounded good.. (on my 89). Only thing that I kinda disliked was the little bit of poppin from the 1 chambers.. If u think it's too loud u just need A better louder sound system
Posted by Venomized93 (Member # 55) on
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Check sig for mods. I dont regret it all! I also dont get harrassed by the cops (even when I've got tickets). They complemented my car though . I understand the consequences, but (knock on wood) I've been harrassed free since day one!
Posted by 93cobra (Member # 2635) on
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H pipe
Posted by DOPE 50 (Member # 5892) on
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I HAVE A bASSANI OFF ROAD X PIPE IT SOUNDS LOUD JUST THE WAY I LIKE IT
Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on
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it's offroad or nothing for me
Posted by Throttle Stop (Member # 5515) on
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From our experience, on a mod engine (5.0's are different) a good set of high-flow cats is only going to cost 1 hp. Now, what is being said about being "technically illeagal" is also correct. But, so are most CAI's, gears, even something as silly as spark plug wires can be considered "illeagal". We work with a smog shop (that has had 2 different smog guys) and they feel as we do, and as most folks should. If the car sniffs clean, what's the big deal. Up this way in Citrus Heoghts they have a mobile sniffer truck that has caught a couple of people that have since come in here for help. Why did they get caught, no cats and the truck found them. With a catted H or X, they're fine.
For sound, the MRT H will definately give the deeper, old school sound, while the X will be a more high-techie sound. I have a Magnaflow catted X with SLP Loudmouths and my Mach sounds like a NEXTEL (man, I still want to say Winston) cup car when she winds out. Keep in mind, for 4.6 DOHC engines, they like to wind out, and that is where the X really comes into play. By design, the X will scavenge better and actually produce better power at the higher RPM ranges.
If you want to call us (916) 780-4646, we'll be glad to help you in the decision process and make sure you get the right part for your need.
Posted by mach1killa (Member # 5069) on
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maybe on a stock 5.0 there may only be a diff of 1 hp but on a modified car especially forced induction it can be a huge diiference. hiflo cats or not they still restrict flow.
Posted by J24I (Member # 2598) on
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1) do you guys regret going Off Road?
Nope, but I do regret wasting my time with 2 other O/R h-pipes before doing my bassani x-pipe
2) Do you guys worry about SMOG?
No, smog hooks....
3) is it too loud ?? just right? to quiet??
Just right, Neighbors NEVER complain for the past 2 years but I guess that's the good part about being friends with everyone in the Court.
4.) Any regrets?
Nope
5) do you worry about cops?
Only when I drive into Dublin and see 6 cops on every corner because they have nothing to do. But in San Ramon I've got a few thumbs or nods from the police.
6) what's the worst that can happen if you get pulled over w/o cats??
Fine's, and State Referee
Posted by Juiced-03 (Member # 2245) on
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quote:
Originally posted by mach1killa:
maybe on a stock 5.0 there may only be a diff of 1 hp but on a modified car especially forced induction it can be a huge diiference. hiflo cats or not they still restrict flow.
I completely agree. I gained quite a bit on my 03 Cobra with no cats vs. high flow cats. On n/a cars the gains may not be as much, but the sound alone is priceless.
Posted by PWR HNGRY 302 (Member # 6000) on
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Just do it.
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on
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I don't think anyone is going to be able to give You the answer You are looking for because We all have different engines with different level's of modification, plus what is too loud for some might be just rite for other's. Also mentioned is the difference in the city You live in with the level of police enforcement, and even the neighborhood's We live in play a role in our choice. I have high flow cat's on mine and when I go WOT it seem's like You could hear it from a mile away , so I definatley would'nt feel comfortable getting on it around town with off road pipes on. I had off road pipes on after My engine swap and they were too loud for Me, as cop's would alway's make eye contact with Me when I drove by, and even follow Me around on occasion. So I know with the addition of the charger a few Year's back that it won't work for Me. I would say drive around with a buddy with a loud exhaust with the window's down and go on the freeway for a nice distance and get an idea if it would be good for Ya or not. I don't think there is much power to be gained from a good flowing set of Highflows vs. off road, also the rite header's and cat back would make up most of the difference between the two. If You are going illegal You might as well put long tubes on it also to get maximum gain's.
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on
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1) do you guys regret going Off Road? yes and thats the reason why the last 4stangs ive had ive gones with cats. the gains from an o/r is not worth the hassle.
2) do you guys worry about SMOG? yes obviously..unless either you have a hook-up or like swapping out hpipes every couple years.
3) is it too loud ?? just right? to quiet?? when i was 18 the sound was just right...obnoxious and loud but now that im a bit older i want something more tame. last thing id want is a noise maker not making the power.
4) any regrets? got pulled over by a cop before when i had the o/r h..to say the least i was nervous but luckily did not get cited for no cats.
5) do you worry about cops? yup, when ever id see a cop id drop the car to the higher gears.
6) what's the worst that can happen if you get pulled over w/o cats?? fines $$$$
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